Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-10 Thread Hirotaka Yamamoto
Hi, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Mark - Syminet wrote: > > As of version 1.4, Upstart will, by default, log all job data to files > under > > /var/log/upstart/. > > > > This is good, but what people are complaining about are boot-time > processes; > if we can login to look at logs, then it

Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-09 Thread Mark - Syminet
On Jan 9, 2013, at 2:48 AM, Bouchard Louis wrote: > > I've been puzzled by this thread for a while. I'm booting Ubuntu > servers all day long (mostly in VMs nowaday) and all I see is the stream > of console messages up to the boot prompt. Here is a small capture of > one Precise server boot :

Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-09 Thread Mark - Syminet
On Jan 8, 2013, at 1:57 PM, James Hunt wrote: […] >> >>> The worst one here is the fact that during bootup fsck's, there is no >>> longer any progress bar showing status. No big deal for a small >>> single disk system but If your server has a multi-terabyte drive >>> array, fscks can take

Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sander Smeenk's message of 2013-01-03 13:53:39 -0800: > Hello list, > > I recently got directed here from ubuntu-devel-discuss with my > pet-peeves on how i think Ubuntu Server is not really tailored for > servers [anymore], the thread of which you can read up on here: > https://list

Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-09 Thread Bouchard Louis
Hello, Le 08/01/2013 22:57, James Hunt a écrit : >> >> >>> The worst one here is the fact that during bootup fsck's, there is no >>> longer any progress bar showing status. No big deal for a small >>> single disk system but If your server has a multi-terabyte drive >>> array, fscks can take hours

Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-08 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Mark - Syminet (m...@symonds.net): > >> Is any of this discussable? > > Anyone? Thanks for sending four copies of your mail :) > The worst one here is the fact that during bootup fsck's, there is no > longer any progress bar showing status. No big deal for a small > single disk system

Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-07 Thread Mark - Syminet
On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Quoting Sander Smeenk (ssme...@freshdot.net): > >> I'd like to propose the (re)introduction of a special '-server' kernel >> which has no framebuffers enabled? Some mechanism to tune GRUB into >> verbose, 80x24 text mode when installed on a Se

Re: Fwd: Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-07 Thread S`row-Lain
t: Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs. To: "Douglas Stanley" <mailto:douglas.m.stan...@gmail.com>> This affects me as well. Whenever a /et/networking/interfaces is wrong or an /etc/fdisk is wrong, plymouth gets in the way and makes it harder to fix the probl

Fwd: Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-07 Thread Spencer Krum
-- Forwarded message -- From: "Spencer Krum" Date: Jan 3, 2013 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs. To: "Douglas Stanley" This affects me as well. Whenever a /et/networking/interfaces is wrong or an /etc/fdisk is wrong,

Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-07 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Sander Smeenk (ssme...@freshdot.net): > I'd like to propose the (re)introduction of a special '-server' kernel > which has no framebuffers enabled? Some mechanism to tune GRUB into > verbose, 80x24 text mode when installed on a Server setup? Implement > 'tee(1)' functionality in Upstart pe

Re: Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-03 Thread Douglas Stanley
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Hello list, > > I recently got directed here from ubuntu-devel-discuss with my > pet-peeves on how i think Ubuntu Server is not really tailored for > servers [anymore], the thread of which you can read up on here: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com

Framebuffers, plymouth, upstart and server installs.

2013-01-03 Thread Sander Smeenk
Hello list, I recently got directed here from ubuntu-devel-discuss with my pet-peeves on how i think Ubuntu Server is not really tailored for servers [anymore], the thread of which you can read up on here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2013-January/014163.html I wrote abo