[UC] Stop and frisk, 6th amendment, magna carta

2013-03-20 Thread Glenn moyer
Rick, You mentioned the 6th amendment the other day.Below is a report on Philadelphia's stop and frisk program.Also,it's not on local news, but another kid was shot in the back in Brooklyn by lawlessoinkers starting with a stop and frisk. The people of Brooklyn are standing up. Stop and

[UC] Stop and frisk coverage, links

2012-02-08 Thread Glenn
I know those of you, who know what is happening in the world, watch democracy now. But I want to highlight today's coverage of stop and frisk, and 2 NY Times pieces (links). Temporary detentions are part of the early mechanisms of ALL societies being transformed into police states. There is

[UC] Stop and Frisk in NY

2010-07-06 Thread Glenn moyer
Bob Herbert in the NYT- When you listen to the people who have been subjected to this relentless harassment, you get a sense of the awful personal consequences. People are made to feel low, intimidated, worthless, helpless. They dread the very sight of the police.

Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-14 Thread Glenn
, in every neighborhood. Glenn - Original Message - From: KAREN ALLEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement From: Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-14 Thread Anthony West
You're right, this is a big idea. A large percentage of crimes are committed by persons who have already been through the prison system once. Both Fattah and Evans have focused on it, I believe. It runs completely counter to public sentiment of the past 30 years, which has turned intensely

Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-13 Thread KAREN ALLEN
From: Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED], UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 14:39:59 -0400 Thanks S. I saw the paper. I hope folks read this. Glenn OK, I read the article. I

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-12 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/home_top_stories/20070512_Stop-and-frisk_ controversy__What_price_for_a_safer_city_.html

Re: [UC] Stop and frisk, the city that loves you back

2007-05-12 Thread Elizabeth F Campion
Glenn (and list neighbors), I believe some words-images should not be posted on a community list. It was a friend, CM, who posted a link that opened to a dead child, hanging out the window of a bomb shattered bus. It was an image I did not (and do not) want in my head. And I needed to forgive

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-12 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
: Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 2:40 PM To: S. Sharrieff Ali; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement Thanks S. I saw the paper. I hope folks read this. Glenn - Original Message - From: S. Sharrieff

Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-12 Thread Frank
: Saturday, May 12, 2007 2:40 PM To: S. Sharrieff Ali; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement Thanks S. I saw the paper. I hope folks read this. Glenn - Original Message - From: S. Sharrieff Ali To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-12 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Frank you could pick nat shit out of pepper! ;-) S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:42 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-12 Thread Elliot M. Stern
what and breaking the law, you don’t need to random search or risk violating the rights of innocent people. S -Original Message- From: Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 2:40 PM To: S. Sharrieff Ali; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-10 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
@list.purple.com Subject: RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement I am a black woman who has lost a family member to a young man with a gun. I am not surprised that Sali tells a sad story and tells people to vote for Fattah and a lot of the knee jerk liberals think that they must agree

Re: [UC] Stop and Frisk

2007-05-10 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Joe Clarke wrote: I would have liked Michael Nutter to respond to his critics in the debate at WHYY that the primary rights to_ life, liberty_ and the pursuit of happiness are denied when your kids can't play in the street and where criminal (versus martial) law rules the neighborhood. yes,

RE: [UC] Stop and Frisk

2007-05-10 Thread J. Matthew Wolfe
] On Behalf Of UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:39 AM To: University City List Subject: Re: [UC] Stop and Frisk Joe Clarke wrote: I would have liked Michael Nutter to respond to his critics in the debate at WHYY that the primary rights to_ life, liberty_ and the pursuit

Re: [UC] Stop and Frisk

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Clarke
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: Joe Clarke wrote: I would have liked Michael Nutter to respond to his critics in the debate at WHYY that the primary rights to_ life, liberty_ and the pursuit of happiness are denied when your kids can't play in the street and where criminal (versus martial) law

Re: [UC] Stop and Frisk

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Clarke
I think that the truth is not necessarily to be found in the center but that the process by which we arrive there is essential to the integrity of the answer. So, I don't think that we can find it without some real human, face to face, encounter with the holder of the opposing view. I agree

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-10 Thread DebsReflexology
I am not going to argue records because Chaka Fattah is not the better candidate, at least to me. I do know both of their records and that is the reason I am voting for Michael Nutter. I was stating that you were misleading folks and I am so tired of voters being mislead by people who

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-10 Thread DebsReflexology
What you are saying about Fattah is a bunch of rubbish and totally unfounded.Corruption? The real story is John Street did not invent corruption in politics and he is not the first politician to have people around him convicted or indited. Chaka Fattah has no corruption

Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-10 Thread Doc Baldy
...Michael Nutter has held is councilman.Chaka Fattah was formerly State Representative, State Senator, and Congressman. I don't profess to know the facts but from this statement it seems to me that Nutter has experience with the City government and Fattah has experience on the State and

Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-09 Thread Glenn
. It was scary. Thanks again, Glenn - Original Message - From: S. Sharrieff Ali To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement Peanut Butter, Jelly, and Bread..they go together too. Growing up

Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement)

2007-05-09 Thread Kyle Cassidy
I have similar concerns with any stop and frisk policy. I can't see how it won't turn into a costume hunt. Hey! Look at that guy's shirt! It has some weird heavy metal devil sign on it! Frisk him! I've been reading an awesome photo book called the innocents

Re: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement)

2007-05-09 Thread Ross Bender
On 5/9/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have similar concerns with any stop and frisk policy. I can't see how it won't turn into a costume hunt. Hey! Look at that guy's shirt! It has some weird heavy metal devil sign on it! Frisk him! Not to mention the temptation the cops will have

Re: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement)

2007-05-09 Thread Glenn
-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement) I have similar concerns with any stop and frisk policy. I can't see how it won't turn into a costume hunt. Hey! Look at that guy's shirt! It has some weird heavy metal devil sign on it! Frisk

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-09 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:24 AM To: S. Sharrieff Ali; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement Hey Sharrieff, Thanks for sharing this nightmare with us. As I heard one of those Duke lacrosse players say, there are a lot of innocent people

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-09 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:24 AM To: S. Sharrieff Ali; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement Hey Sharrieff, Thanks for sharing this nightmare with us. As I heard one of those Duke lacrosse players say, there are a lot of innocent people

Re: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement)

2007-05-09 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 5/9/07 3:14:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm really disturbed about this proposal, too. I was ready to vote  for Nutter until I heard he was behind it. Since when do the police get to stop and frisk whoever they want?  (Well, I guess since Rizzo . . . which

Re: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement)

2007-05-09 Thread emko
From http://blogs.phillynews.com/dailynews/nextmayor/2007/01/ feeling_frisky.html The Inky's/Daily News's/WHYY's/70's next mayor blog, with no byline except Posted by Dan on January 22, 2007: - If you read Fattah's plan, and if you heard him speak today, you'd notice that he

RE: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement)

2007-05-09 Thread Turner,Kathleen
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of emko Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:56 PM To: Univcity List Subject: Re: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement) From http://blogs.phillynews.com/dailynews/nextmayor/2007/01/feeling_frisky.h tml

Re: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Raci...

2007-05-09 Thread Krfapt
I guess you haven't read about UCD's alternative. Huge solar-powered electromagnets on the $855,000 street light poles planned for the elegant corridor in front of the Shoppes of Baltimore Avenue. People carrying guns will be whisked off the sidewalks by these magnets and suspended eight

[UC] Stop and Frisk

2007-05-09 Thread KAREN ALLEN
abused. The other side of the coin is what SHOULD be done to stop the out-of-control murder rate? Karen Allen From: emko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: emko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Univcity List univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N

Re: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement)

2007-05-09 Thread Wilma de Soto
Since there have police (given to working-class Ethnic Whites at the end end of Slavery taking over the role of the Plantation overseer) and there have been freed Slaves. Read The Police Mystique, by Anthony Bauza. Mr. Bauza was Police Commissioner for 25 years in Minneapolis, MN. He was a

Re: [UC] Stop and Frisk

2007-05-09 Thread Glenn
- Original Message - From: KAREN ALLEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: [UC] Stop and Frisk I don't agree with the characterization that the police will be given free reign to stop and frisk anyone they want, or that it would

Re: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Raci...

2007-05-09 Thread Elliot M. Stern
Rube Goldberg lives! On 09 May 2007, at 4:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you haven't read about UCD's alternative. Huge solar-powered electromagnets on the $855,000 street light poles planned for the elegant corridor in front of the Shoppes of Baltimore Avenue. People carrying

Re: [UC] Stop and Frisk

2007-05-09 Thread Joe Clarke
PROTECTED] To: Univcity List univcity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: Stop-n-frisk and innocent people in jail (was RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 15:13:10 -0400 I'm really disturbed about this proposal, too. I was ready to vote for Nutter until I

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-09 Thread DebsReflexology
I am a black woman who has lost a family member to a young man with a gun. I am not surprised that Sali tells a sad story and tells people to vote for Fattah and a lot of the knee jerk liberals think that they must agree. People.if you do not agree with the stop-n-frisk policyso be

Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-08 Thread Ross Bender
On 5/8/07, S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my way I was stopped by the police and thrown into a paddy-wagon (police van), Paddy-wagon?? DUDE! This disrepects People of Hibernian Descent. I believe the proper term is Irish-American. Or maybe micks. What are you trying to do,

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-08 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
I was corrected off-list. My bad. S -Original Message- From: Ross Bender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:03 PM To: S. Sharrieff Ali Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement On 5/8/07, S. Sharrieff

RE: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement

2007-05-08 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Speaking of race wars.. -Original Message- From: Ross Bender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:03 PM To: S. Sharrieff Ali Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Stop-N-Frisk, Racial Profiling and Law Enforcement On 5/8/07, S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL