On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 08:48:58AM -0700, stan wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 12:10:26 +0200
> Richard Z wrote:
>
>
> > Firefox is doing this. You have to disable the spyware called "safe
> > browsing" to get rid of it. And yes, it has been exploited by
> > intelligence agencies around the world a
On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 12:10:26 +0200
Richard Z wrote:
> Firefox is doing this. You have to disable the spyware called "safe
> browsing" to get rid of it. And yes, it has been exploited by
> intelligence agencies around the world and may submit every single
> URL you visit to google if they want it
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 09:03:02AM -0700, stan wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:05:31 +0930
> Tim wrote:
>
> > Allegedly, on or about 22 August 2016, William Mattison sent:
> > > "evercookies"
>
>
> > As users, we get sick of cookies (and related
On 24/08/16 20:51, William Mattison wrote:
(I'm replying to the entire discussion as of Wednesday evening US
Mountain time.)
I'm now wondering if evercookies can really be fully blocked. I do
want to block what I reasonably can. But as was pointed out, a lot
of wanted web functiona
it. I haven't
looked at the code, so I don't know how sophisticated the algorithm is
- given time and effort, I think it could become *very* sophisticated;
intercepting javascript calls to determine who's calling, checking
content creation, etc. Evercookies are like a real virus in tha
As I've been contemplating this over the last few days it occurred to me
tools to deal with this effectively are readily at our disposal. The
bullet-proof way to deal with this is related to what I wrote a few days
ago. As I mentioned, I do my web browsing inside virtualbox and
virtualbox has w
Allegedly, on or about 25 August 2016, William Mattison sent:
> I'm now wondering if evercookies can really be fully blocked. I do
> want to block what I reasonably can. But as was pointed out, a lot of
> wanted web functionality needs cookies. So now I'm mainly focuse
Tim:
>> a. Not that it's the DNS protocol, but a DNS server, that was
>> implicated. DNS servers can keep access logs, too.
Joe Zeff:
> And, to be equally blunt, you were asserting that DNS servers could be
> used to set evercookies on your machine and I was refuting that
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Tim wrote:
>
> You really do have to be one of the tinfoil hat brigade, never logging
> in, using things like TOR, stealing other people's WiFi, changing IPs,
> etc., all of the time to be able to avoid that kind of big brother
> watching (in the Orwellian sense
On 08/24/2016 07:51 PM, William Mattison wrote:
* It seems CCleaner is for windows but not Linux. I am indeed looking for
windows-7 solutions, but I'm also looking for Fedora solutions. How can I
clean out evercookies on my Fedora workstation?
Have you checked bleachbit? I don'
(I'm replying to the entire discussion as of Wednesday evening US Mountain
time.)
I'm now wondering if evercookies can really be fully blocked. I do want to
block what I reasonably can. But as was pointed out, a lot of wanted web
functionality needs cookies. So now I'm ma
On 08/24/2016 06:08 PM, Tim wrote:
To be blunt, the points you missed, were:
a. Not that it's the DNS protocol, but a DNS server, that was
implicated. DNS servers can keep access logs, too.
And, to be equally blunt, you were asserting that DNS servers could be
used to set evercooki
Allegedly, on or about 24 August 2016, Joe Zeff sent:
> Except, of course, for the fact that most servers aren't running
> browsers, and if they are, that cookie will identify them, not you.
> The point I was making, and you didn't address is that there is no way
> to use the DNS protocol to set o
On 2016-08-24 00:18, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 08/23/2016 11:41 PM, Tim wrote:
You browse half a dozen addresses, using their DNS server, they can see
all the queries coming from your IP. Somewhere amongst them is a server
where they can set a cookie in a browser.
Except, of course, for the fact tha
On 08/23/2016 11:41 PM, Tim wrote:
You browse half a dozen addresses, using their DNS server, they can see
all the queries coming from your IP. Somewhere amongst them is a server
where they can set a cookie in a browser.
Except, of course, for the fact that most servers aren't running
browser
Allegedly, on or about 23 August 2016, Joe Zeff sent:
> Assuming that somebody wanted to use DNS to set a cookie, how would
> they go about it?
You browse half a dozen addresses, using their DNS server, they can see
all the queries coming from your IP. Somewhere amongst them is a server
where th
Allegedly, on or about 23 August 2016, Drew Samson sent:
> I built Evercookie as a proof of concept, wanting to show how web
> sites are able to track users even if they delete standard cookies and
> LSOs.
I get really sick of these sociopaths that build and release some evil
thing allegedly to p
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 16:54:11 -0600
Drew Samson wrote:
> I was admittedly slow to learn this yet once I came to realize the
> overwhelming majority of their $ is made by advertisers paying them
> to be white-listed it seemed to me as if the fox was guarding the
> hen-house. They made a name for
I know you said you no longer use AdBlock Plus, but they have
categorically stated that they protect against evercookies.
"If the last paragraph isn’t explicit enough for you, here you go:
Adblock Plus privacy protection (a.k.a. EasyPrivacy filter list)
doesn’t care whether it is co
ng or retrieving a cookie.
Yes, I know that you aren't claiming that Google's DNS servers are
manipulating evercookies, I'm just using your comment as a hook to
describe just how absurd the idea is. It's just as foolish as thinking
that you can get a STD by watching a video of
On 08/23/2016 12:26 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
On 08/23/2016 09:32 AM, Drew Samson wrote:
On 08/23/2016 10:03 AM, stan wrote:
So, this brought evercookies to my attention. I noticed that even when
Are you using google dns? (8.8.8.8)
How would google dns go about setting an evercookie
AdBlock Plus, but they have
categorically stated that they protect against evercookies.
"If the last paragraph isn’t explicit enough for you, here you go:
Adblock Plus privacy protection (a.k.a. EasyPrivacy filter list)
doesn’t care whether it is cookies, canvas fingerprinting or
evercookie, you
On 08/23/2016 09:32 AM, Drew Samson wrote:
On 08/23/2016 10:03 AM, stan wrote:
So, this brought evercookies to my attention. I noticed that even when
Are you using google dns? (8.8.8.8)
How would google dns go about setting an evercookie?
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On 08/23/2016 10:03 AM, stan wrote:
So, this brought evercookies to my attention. I noticed that even when
offline, there was a google cookie in my cookie directory, even though
google is not whitelisted. So, I deleted it. And, lo and behold, it
came back. Like that old song, "The
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:05:31 +0930
Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 22 August 2016, William Mattison sent:
> > "evercookies"
> As users, we get sick of cookies (and related shit), and disable them.
> The evil bastards decide that they will not obey and make it har
Allegedly, on or about 22 August 2016, William Mattison sent:
> "evercookies"
Oh gawd, yet another horrible thing. The creator, allegedly some
privacy and security researcher is clearly anything but that, they're an
evil bastard.
As users, we get sick of cookies (and related
On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:45:52 -
"William Mattison" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Two questions about "evercookies". I think this could be useful to
> others in this forum as well as to me.
>
> 1. On my home Fedora-23 (updated weekly) workstation, how do I fi
On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:45:52 -
"William Mattison" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Two questions about "evercookies". I think this could be useful to
> others in this forum as well as to me.
>
> 1. On my home Fedora-23 (updated weekly) workstation, how do I fi
Hi all,
Two questions about "evercookies". I think this could be useful to others in
this forum as well as to me.
1. On my home Fedora-23 (updated weekly) workstation, how do I find and truly,
fully, permanently get rid of whatever evercookies might be on my system? If
y'all
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