Hi Harald,
yes i execute this as the root user.
but with which user i have to execute sa-lean --spam if i use amavisd?
per default you can't switch to the amavis user to execute the learn command.
cheers
On 08.05.20 09:27, supp...@mmarzouki.de wrote:
i have spamassassin on my centos7 system.
sometimes i received spammails and i would like to learn this mails as spam
with sa-learn --spam.
but it doesn't seem to work, because the spamscore is before and after the same.
what i did?:
i have a
From: Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 15:27, Clay Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any good techniques for capturing a sample of ham
that can be used as the ham corpus. I'm in a corporate environment
and am not keen on the idea of intercepting non-spam messages. I
jdow wrote:
From: Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Note I use mailscanner, hence the odd log syntax)
grep is spam, /var/log/maillog |wc -l
3434
grep is spam, /var/log/maillog|grep autolearn=spam |wc -l
2766
grep is spam, /var/log/maillog|grep autolearn=not spam | wc -l
0
snip
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 10:05:05PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
For reference, these are the only rules in a stock SA 3.1.0 that can
give you a negative learning score:
score HABEAS_ACCREDITED_COI 0 -8.0 0 -8.0
score RCVD_IN_BSP_TRUSTED 0 -4.3 0 -4.3
score HABEAS_ACCREDITED_SOI 0 -4.3 0 -4.3
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
The hashcash scores don't seem to be triggering learning for me, for
some reason...
They generally won't. Three things must happen for hashcash to fire:
1) you need a loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash command in your
init.pre
2) you need a hashcash_accept
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:29:36AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
However, looking in the config files, HASHCASH rules have the userconf flag.
This means that the Autolearner will also ignore these rules too, as SA will
treat it as a user configured whitelist.
So, this message had an
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:29:36AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
However, looking in the config files, HASHCASH rules have the userconf flag.
This means that the Autolearner will also ignore these rules too, as SA will
treat it as a user configured whitelist.
So, this
Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:29:36AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
However, looking in the config files, HASHCASH rules have the userconf flag.
This means that the Autolearner will also ignore these rules too, as SA will
treat it as a user configured
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:49:09AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:29:36AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
However, looking in the config files, HASHCASH rules have the userconf
flag.
This means that the Autolearner will also ignore these rules too,
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:49:09AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:29:36AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
However, looking in the config files, HASHCASH rules have the userconf
flag.
This means that the Autolearner will also ignore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Jim C. Nasby writes:
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:29:36AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
However, looking in the config files, HASHCASH rules have the userconf flag.
This means that the Autolearner will also ignore these rules too, as SA will
treat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you just feed spamassassin spam or do you need to give it ham
also?
I read the docs and it didn't say you had to feed it ham.
I then read another doc and it said you should feed it equal amounts
of spam and ham.
You need to feed it both. I wouldn't worry
200 of each to even make it start working on sa-learn email. I then
feed it representative amounts of ham and spam. The ratio it comes in.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you just feed spamassassin spam or do you need to give it ham also?
I read the docs and it didn't say you had to feed it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you just feed spamassassin spam or do you need to give it ham also?
I read the docs and it didn't say you had to feed it ham.
I then read another doc and it said you should feed it equal amounts of
spam and ham.
Yes, you really should feed it both. You also
Does anyone have any good techniques for capturing a sample of ham that can be
used as the ham corpus. I'm in a corporate environment and am not keen on the
idea of intercepting non-spam messages. I will if I have to, but was hoping
someone had a better idea.
Regards,
Clay
On 2/7/2006 at
This is what automatic training attempts to solve.
If you are reliably nailing spam with your current setup you can experiment
with the automatic learning. But I'd widen the score ranges a little, as
far as is practical for your mail mix.
{^_^}
- Original Message -
From: Clay Davis
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 03:16:57PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
My current training ratio is about 7:1 spam:nonspam, but in the past it's been
as bad as 20:1. Both of those are very far off from equal amounts, but the
imbalance has never caused me any problems.
From my sa-learn --dump magic
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 03:16:57PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
My current training ratio is about 7:1 spam:nonspam, but in the past it's
been
as bad as 20:1. Both of those are very far off from equal amounts, but the
imbalance has never caused me any problems.
From my
From: Jim C. Nasby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 03:16:57PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
My current training ratio is about 7:1 spam:nonspam, but in the past it's been
as bad as 20:1. Both of those are very far off from equal amounts, but the
imbalance has never caused me any
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 04:40:40PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
I would also check to make sure you don't have a lot of spam coming in that's
getting autolearned as ham. (note: the learner's idea of score is very
different
than the final message score, so a message CAN be tagged as spam, and
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 04:40:40PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
I would also check to make sure you don't have a lot of spam coming in that's
getting autolearned as ham. (note: the learner's idea of score is very
different
than the final message score, so a message CAN be
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 05:02:25PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 04:40:40PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
I would also check to make sure you don't have a lot of spam coming in
that's
getting autolearned as ham. (note: the learner's idea of score is
Does anyone have any good techniques for capturing a sample of ham that
can be used as the ham corpus. I'm in a corporate environment and am not
keen on the idea of intercepting non-spam messages. I will if I have to,
but was hoping someone had a better idea.
Depending on your MTA/MDA, you
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 05:02:25PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 04:40:40PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
I would also check to make sure you don't have a lot of spam coming in
that's
getting autolearned as ham. (note: the learner's
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 01:45:48PM -0800, jdow wrote:
From: Jim C. Nasby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 03:16:57PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
My current training ratio is about 7:1 spam:nonspam, but in the past it's
been
as bad as 20:1. Both of those are very far off from equal
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
Are there any autolearn strings? Are they all autolearn=no? are there any
decent number that are autolearn=failed or autolearn=disabled?
grep -r autolearn caughtspam/ | grep -v 'Binary file' | sed -e
's/.*autolearn=\([^ ]*\).*/\1/'|sort|uniq -c
1545 no
140 spam
4
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 05:47:36PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 05:02:25PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 04:40:40PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
I would also check to make sure you don't have a lot of spam
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 06:17:20PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
Are there any autolearn strings? Are they all autolearn=no? are there any
decent number that are autolearn=failed or autolearn=disabled?
grep -r autolearn caughtspam/ | grep -v 'Binary file' | sed -e
Probably would work if you were running Linux.
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 05:47:36PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Chupacabra
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
Are you using network tests? Without DNSBLs it's often hard to get enough
header
points to cause spam learning..
I believe so...
grep loadplugin /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/init.pre
# loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::RelayCountry
loadplugin
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 05:36:56PM -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 06:17:20PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
Are there any autolearn strings? Are they all autolearn=no? are there
any
decent number that are autolearn=failed or autolearn=disabled?
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 06:47:06PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
Are you using network tests? Without DNSBLs it's often hard to get enough
header
points to cause spam learning..
I believe so...
grep loadplugin /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/init.pre
#
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 05:45:54PM -0600, mike wrote:
Probably would work if you were running Linux.
The problem isn't that it isn't working, the problem is that it's
working too well. I guess maybe that's something you're not used to. :P
--
Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 05:45:54PM -0600, mike wrote:
Probably would work if you were running Linux.
The problem isn't that it isn't working, the problem is that it's
working too well. I guess maybe that's something you're not used to. :P
Something tells me
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 05:36:56PM -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 06:17:20PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
Are there any autolearn strings? Are they all autolearn=no? are there
any
decent number that are
From: Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
Are there any autolearn strings? Are they all autolearn=no? are there any
decent number that are autolearn=failed or autolearn=disabled?
grep -r autolearn caughtspam/ | grep -v 'Binary file' | sed -e
's/.*autolearn=\([^
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 07:59:37PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim,
Bayes is NOT used when calculating autolearning score, that would
promote self feedbac. As I said before, the autolearner's concept of
score is VERY different from the final message score. Score
contributions from bayes,
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 07:59:37PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
Jim,
Bayes is NOT used when calculating autolearning score, that would
promote self feedbac. As I said before, the autolearner's concept of
score is VERY different from the final message score. Score
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 15:27, Clay Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any good techniques for capturing a sample of ham
that can be used as the ham corpus. I'm in a corporate environment
and am not keen on the idea of intercepting non-spam messages. I
will if I have to, but was hoping someone
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