[Vala] The future of Vala

Hey, this is probably just a mail for Jürg and maybe Luca, but if you have a relevant opinion on the matter, that might be a fine reply as well. So, for quite a while the Vala project has seen very little activity. The three people most involved (Jürg, Luca and Flo) are barely on IRC and/or other

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Hi: I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really scared. I really love Vala, so the perspective of missing it is really horrible :( El 08/09/16 a las 19:34, Timm Bäder escribió: > Hey, > > this is probably just a mail for Jürg and maybe Luca, but if you have a > relevant o

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Hi: I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really scared. I really love Vala, so the possibility of missing it is really horrible :( El 08/09/16 a las 19:34, Timm Bäder escribió: > Hey, > > this is probably just a mail for Jürg and maybe Luca, but if you have a > relevant o

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

- Original Message - > From: rastersoft > Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016, 22:50 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really > scared. I really love Vala, so the perspective of missing it is really

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Fri, 2016-09-09 at 23:50 +0200, rastersoft wrote: > I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really > scared. I really love Vala, so the perspective of missing it is > really horrible :( Ditto. I've been poking at Vala - it seems like a really great idea, and it worked wel

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

I 'm spending all my applications python Vala , I would like to know the current state of Vala . Maybe I can contribute in some way to its continuity. 2016-09-09 18:50 GMT-03:00 rastersoft : > Hi: > > I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really > scared. I really love Vala

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

This is something I've been thinking about lately, too.  We currently rely on Jürg and Luca's expertise pretty heavily for development and patch review, and since they are both busy with other stuff Vala development has slowed down quite a bit. Assuming we can't organize financing to pay Jürg and/

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Sounds awesome. Even if we don't move to github, we should still allow people to submit pull requests on the mirror (https://github.com/gnome/vala) On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 4:44 PM Evan Nemerson wrote: > This is something I've been thinking about lately, too. We currently > rely on Jürg and Luca

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Sat, 2016-09-10 at 21:22 +, Ben Iofel wrote: > Sounds awesome. Even if we don't move to github, we should still > allow > people to submit pull requests on the mirror > (https://github.com/gnome/vala) I completely disagree.  There should be one place to somehow request a change in the code.

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

- Original Message - > From: Evan Nemerson > Sent: Saturday, 10 September 2016, 21:44 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > Chris Daley has been working on moving a version of Valadate into the > Vala tree (see <https://github.com/chebizarro/vala>) so tests

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Le 2016-09-10 23:58, Evan Nemerson a écrit : On Sat, 2016-09-10 at 21:22 +, Ben Iofel wrote: Sounds awesome. Even if we don't move to github, we should still allow people to submit pull requests on the mirror (https://github.com/gnome/vala) I completely disagree.  There should be one place

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On 10.09, Evan Nemerson wrote: > This is something I've been thinking about lately, too.  We currently > rely on Jürg and Luca's expertise pretty heavily for development and > patch review, and since they are both busy with other stuff Vala > development has slowed down quite a bit. > > Assuming w

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

+1 -- * EOF * 2016-09-10 22:44 GMT+02:00 Evan Nemerson : > This is something I've been thinking about lately, too. We currently > rely on Jürg and Luca's expertise pretty heavily for development and > patch review, and since they are both busy with other stuff Vala > development has slowed

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

- Original Message - > From: Timm Bäder > Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2016, 16:30 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > Basically, I'm not saying that Jürg or Luca need to > even work on valac, but a patch review now and then would already help > a lot. An

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On 11.09, Al Thomas wrote: > > Basically, I'm not saying that Jürg or Luca need to > > even work on valac, but a patch review now and then would already help > > a lot. And some of those patches are really quite simple and obviously > > correct, but no review except theirs has any weight. > > > A

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Sun, 2016-09-11 at 17:30 +0200, Timm Bäder wrote: > On 10.09, Evan Nemerson wrote: > > > > This is something I've been thinking about lately, too.  We > > currently rely on Jürg and Luca's expertise pretty heavily for > > development and patch review, and since they are both busy with > > other

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

- Original Message - > From: Timm Bäder > Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2016, 17:43 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > On 11.09, Al Thomas wrote: >> Anyone with GNOME commit access can add to the Vala repository. >> So for these two recent patches, a p

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

some killer apps may be a good AD. 2016-09-12 0:51 GMT+08:00 Evan Nemerson : > On Sun, 2016-09-11 at 17:30 +0200, Timm Bäder wrote: >> On 10.09, Evan Nemerson wrote: >> > >> > This is something I've been thinking about lately, too. We >> > currently rely on Jürg and Luca's expertise pretty heavil

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:19 AM, oyster wrote: some killer apps may be a good AD. Like these? ;) -- ⊨ Michael Gratton, Percept Wrangler. ⚙ __

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:34 AM, Timm Bäder wrote: So... what's the deal here? Is there any way forward one could look into? Is it wip/transform? IIRC there was some dbus stuff broken here? Are there any TODO items for cleaning up the compiler? Should we just tell people to not use Vala in the fi

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Am 2016-09-13 um 02:10 schrieb Michael Gratton: > It really sounds like Vala needs some maintainers. I think there are some Vala USERS out there, which are able and willing to help with some minor and/or simple tasks and don't know how. So the "heavy weights" like Jürg, Luca, Evan and the like can

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

vala-list@gnome.org > Betreff: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > > Am 2016-09-13 um 02:10 schrieb Michael Gratton: > > It really sounds like Vala needs some maintainers. > > I think there are some Vala USERS out there, which are able and willing > to help with some minor an

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Hi folks, it’s great to see this discussion finally moving – albeit somewhat late. With Luca leaving the project ([Vala] Leaving the project ), the situation is now even more critical. Given that Joerg obviously has n

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Hey, > With Luca leaving the project ([Vala] Leaving the project > ), > the situation is now even more > critical. Given that Joerg obviously has no time or interest it basically > means that there > is no-one left w

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Hi, I've been playing with Vala for about two years or so and like very much what I can do with it. I have to agree with Matthias: improvement and correctness go over backward-compatibility at this stage. It's perfectly fine to use a specific compiler version to build broken software and disting

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

08.09.2016, 20:33, "Timm Bäder" : > Hey, > > this is probably just a mail for Jürg and maybe Luca, but if you have a > relevant opinion on the matter, that might be a fine reply as well. > > So, for quite a while the Vala project has seen very little activity. > The three people most involved (Jürg

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

> > Hi! > > At first I didn't want to enter this discussion, because it targeted > certain people, the Vala programmers, and I am not a programmer. > > I'm with you. Although I don't work on vala, I certainly work with vala, and just yesterday I compiled one of my vala projects on the $9 CHIP

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

> It's just very tiring when one's efforts are ignored for weeks and > the general impression is that new > developers are something the project doesn't give a tuppeny-cuss > about… You know, it's still volunteer work. The time has to come from somewhere. > In addition to that, I also believe th

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

> - Original Message - > From: Matthias Berndt > Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2016, 23:07 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=615830 > It's just very tiring when one's efforts are ignored for weeks and the

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

> - Original Message - > From: jezra > Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2016, 17:41 > Subject: Re: [Vala] The future of Vala > For me as a vala user, the biggest frustration I have, and the > number 1 reason I would NOT consider vala for a future programming > proj

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Hey Al, > Hmm, that seems a little unfair. You submitted the patch on the 08 Aug 2016 > and it was reviewed on the 10 Aug 2016. Unfortunately your first version of > the patch included a bug that the review identified. Well, I fixed that bug within a day. Then it took another 12 days for Jürg to

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

Thanks for the frank discussion. I read the stream, and it reveals some things about the Vala project that have been opaque. The actual decision about Vala's future pales in comparison to the path that got us here. One of the reasons I chose Vala was it has the appearance of support from Gno

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 5:52 AM, bruce davidson wrote: So, this question strikes home: "Should we just tell people to not use Vala in the first place" I wish you had. I was going to put my projects on hiatus until you made your decision on Vala's future. But I have no confidence that a decisi

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

On 02/07/2017 01:07 AM, Michael Gratton wrote: > On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 5:52 AM, bruce davidson > wrote: >> So, this question strikes home: "Should we just tell people to not >> use Vala in the first place" >> >> I wish you had. I was going to put my projects on hiatus until you >> made your decis

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

> There are more parties in GNOME that have a serious interest in keeping Vala > going. This should of course be "There are more parties than GNOME that have a serious interest in keeping Vala going". Forgive me, it's early :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

I was trying to use the web tool to append to this email stream: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/vala-list/2016-September/msg1.html but it looks like it didn't get connected So, that is where the question was asked, and as a person who recently started programming vala, I felt that my