[Vo]:2009 review of Ni-H effects since 1989 on rods at 200-400 C, S Focardi, F Piantelli, 13 p pdf: Rich Murray 2010.01.31

2011-01-31 Thread Rich Murray
2009 review of Ni-H effects since 1989 on rods at 200-400 C, S Focardi, F Piantelli, 13 p pdf: Rich Murray 2010.01.31 http://www.enea.it/com/ingl/New_ingl/publications/pdf/Cold_Fusion_Italy.pdf March 2009 217 pages pages 171-182 13 page [ a few minor typos corrected -- many pages of references

[Vo]:NASA reveals Cold Fusion-LENR Program

2011-01-31 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex: In the disclaimer, NASA says it is not Cold Fusion..but that is OK. http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/01/widom-larsen-theory-and-zawodny-at.html It appears use will be aviation/space. Ron Kita, Chiralex

Re: [Vo]:Rossi describe how they flushed the steam

2011-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
And another thing! When you test with a drum can of cold water, the partial pressure change might mess up the upstream measurements at the gadget, but the drum can test itself still works. It collects all the enthalpy: hot water, wet steam, dry steam. That's the beauty of it, and that is why I sugg

Re: [Vo]:Rossi describe how they flushed the steam

2011-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
wrote: > There is potential problem with this method. When the temperature of the > collection water is low (room temperature), the steam will condense until > the > partial vapour pressure of the steam is correct for that temperature. At > room > temperature that will be a lot less than 1 atm,

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Possibly more on DEFKALION's origins

2011-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > The biggest red flag is how casually this is being treated. > Yes! On many levels: business, manufacturing, public relations, product safety and more. It reminds me of 19th century ballooning, when people tested prototype parachutes the first time by jumping out of b

Re: [Vo]:Rossi describe how they flushed the steam

2011-01-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/31/2011 09:44 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: > In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:37:04 -0500: > Hi, > [snip] > >> Actually, it worked pretty well. These were short tests, of 15 to 30 >> minutes. If you run the test too long of course the water gets too hot. In >>

Re: [Vo]:Replicating Rossi at home

2011-01-31 Thread mixent
In reply to dang...@scrilab.org's message of Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:44:03 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Construction suggestions? I noticed the pat. app. calls for a Ni >coated Cu tube. Don't forget the magic ingredient. ;) If I were in your shoes, I would try a Mills catalyst. Regards, Robin van Spaandon

Re: [Vo]:Replicating Rossi at home

2011-01-31 Thread mixent
In reply to Jeff Driscoll's message of Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:21:47 -0500: Hi, [snip] >I was going to do scenario (A) > >I'm still in the beginning stages of my experiment - designing the vessel >etc. Mainly because of funding issues. In the meantime I'm making a >website that better explains Mills

Re: [Vo]:Rossi describe how they flushed the steam

2011-01-31 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:37:04 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Actually, it worked pretty well. These were short tests, of 15 to 30 >minutes. If you run the test too long of course the water gets too hot. In >these tests they let the temperature go from 20 deg C up to around 60

Re: [Vo]:Replicating Rossi at home

2011-01-31 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > 3 micron powder is 3 orders of magnitude too large, The Alchemist's greatest two friends: mortar and pestle (made of ceramic). ;-) T

RE: [Vo]:Break fast for champions

2011-01-31 Thread Jones Beene
Harvey, * It would seem that silver water made from the ellis process distilled, vs the control sample distilled it is derived from may turn a rose color instead of a golden one when placed under the influence of prolonged sunlight. If a definite difference can be established between the

Re: [Vo]:Replicating Rossi at home

2011-01-31 Thread Jeff Driscoll
Most likely there is some secret ingredient and / or method that Rossi uses that we don't know. What are the chances that you will replicate it? How about trying to reproduce Mills / BLP experiment ? The ingredients are listed in his paper and Mills told me that it works every time. He steered m

Re: [Vo]:Rossi describe how they flushed the steam

2011-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: First, it seems like it must have been a fairly large sink. Most sinks > hold, perhaps, a few gallons of water, which wouldn't have the heat capacity > to condense more than a fraction of the steam. > > I don't understand how you "seal" a sink so I'll ignore that state

Re: [Vo]:Break fast for champions

2011-01-31 Thread Harvey Norris
Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ --- On Mon, 1/31/11, Jones Beene wrote: From: Jones Beene Subject: [Vo]:Break fast for champions To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 1:52 PM Is it real drama or closer to

RE: [Vo]:Replicating Rossi at home

2011-01-31 Thread Jones Beene
Hi, Have you studied the Lawandy paper? http://apl.aip.org/applab/v95/i23/p234101_s1?view=fulltext&bypassSSO=1 I suggest it is the most important insight available in explaining what is happening with nano-nickel. 3 micron powder is 3 orders of magnitude too large, and it must be stabilized on

Re: [Vo]:Rossi describe how they flushed the steam

2011-01-31 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > The steam pipe was not going to a bathroom, but to a sink in the wall besise > the test room; the sink was sealed to avoid exit of steam ans, as you said, > a collective sauna. If the sink was sealed, the steam would have blown the water out

Re: [Vo]:Rossi describe how they flushed the steam

2011-01-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/31/2011 05:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I asked Rossi to clarify where the steam goes. I heard it went out of > the window but someone else told me no, the hose went int a bathroom. > > Here is my message to Rossi and his response: > > Jed Rothwell > January 31st, 2011 at 2:31 PM > > A per

[Vo]:Replicating Rossi at home

2011-01-31 Thread dangyro
Gentlemen, I am a gadgeteer (ex JPL in the '80s, worked on Shuttle experiments) with a small shop and I try to replicate claims such as Rossi-Focardi and other affordable setups. I got a 2 deg. C anomalous rise from the Les Case deuterium/palladium doped activated charcoal device 10 years ago

Re: [Vo]:Rossi describe how they flushed the steam

2011-01-31 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Good detective work, Jed. I hope they hook it up to a generator. In the fickle PR world, it seems to me that the device generating 1 megawatts of electricity would be the most convincing demo of all, especially if it can be clearly proved that there cannot possibly exist the equivalent of a one M

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi a 'black swan'?

2011-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
I did not think much of the book "The Black Swan." I am pretty familiar with most of the examples given by the author. Some people were surprised by them, but others were not. I was not, in some cases. Also, I thought the author has an ego problem. Anyway, the discovery of cold fusion by F&P was

[Vo]:Rossi describe how they flushed the steam

2011-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
I asked Rossi to clarify where the steam goes. I heard it went out of the window but someone else told me no, the hose went int a bathroom. Here is my message to Rossi and his response: Jed Rothwell January 31st, 2011 at 2:31 PM A person who attended the January 14 test told me that the steam h

[Vo]:Break fast for champions

2011-01-31 Thread Jones Beene
Is it real drama or closer to Théâtre de l'Absurde ? This Rossi speculation is getting serious, and yet there is a lighter side to how he is able to transmute nickel to copper… hmmm … as if anything about the most influential man in human history - Isaac Newton, can be said to be lightweight. T

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Possibly more on DEFKALION's origins

2011-01-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/31/2011 11:03 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote: > > My bet is the New company is mean to assemble the pieces where said > pieces are farmed out far and wide... > In which case you're back to assuming Rossi is setting up a brand new assembly line and manufacturing facility. If the new entity is

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Possibly more on DEFKALION's origins

2011-01-31 Thread Roarty, Francis X
My bet is the New company is mean to assemble the pieces where said pieces are farmed out far and wide... with even a red herring or two to keep copy cats at bay. His Biggest concern is procuring and packaging the secret additive to avoid it's identification for as long as possible. Perhaps he i

Re: [Vo]:Possibly more on DEFKALION's origins

2011-01-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: That kind of pre-arrangement is extremely easy to do in today's market where severe over-capacity and unemployment exist (automobiles, for instance). All it takes is planning. Greece is not known as a manufacturing powerhouse, but a quick check shows that there are a number

Re: [Vo]:Possibly more on DEFKALION's origins

2011-01-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/31/2011 09:44 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > > *From:* Stephen A. > > > > Ø Wiki sez: "*NewCo* is a generic name used to refer to corporate > spin-offs and > startups before they > are assigned a

Re: [Vo]:Possibly more on DEFKALION's origins

2011-01-31 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Greece is not known as a manufacturing powerhouse. . . Nor their work ethics. Ask the Germans. ;-) T

RE: [Vo]:Possibly more on DEFKALION's origins

2011-01-31 Thread Jones Beene
From: Stephen A. * Wiki sez: "NewCo is a generic name used to refer to corporate spin-offs and startups before they are assigned a final name." Curious, eh? . in the homonyminous reverberat

Re: [Vo]:Possibly more on DEFKALION's origins

2011-01-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 01/31/2011 08:34 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > Steve Krivit came come out with his latest NET #36 issue. Rossi & Co. are > discussed. > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/NET360.shtml > > > Not sure if the following info has already been discussed here or not. > > See

[Vo]:Possibly more on DEFKALION's origins

2011-01-31 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Steve Krivit came come out with his latest NET #36 issue. Rossi & Co. are discussed. http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/NET360.shtml Not sure if the following info has already been discussed here or not. See: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/36/3626-energycatalyzer.shtml Near the e