Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-08 Thread Man on Bridges
Hi, On 7-5-2011 22:26, Akira Shirakawa wrote: They've already put references to the Italian patent approved last month but that only recently (in the last couple days) people discovered. I don't think they would have done that without the exposure on Wikipedia and other channels (maybe even

[Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, This is straight from Wikipedia: * * * http://www.uibm.gov.it/uibm/dati/Avanzata.aspx?load=info_list_unoid=1610895table=Invention#ancoraSearch http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ufficio_italiano_brevetti_e_marchi TITLE: processo ed apparecchiatura per ottenere reazioni esotermiche,

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ah, you beat me to it! I wonder if this will have a positive effect on other patent offices? Isn't there a rule that they have to honor a patent in another country? (I don't know. As you see, I know little about patents.) - Jed

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mats Lewan says This means the EU patent is granted. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
I posted this information on the _Cold Fusion Andrea Rossi Method_ Facebook page It has attracted over 1000 fans now... Harry Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, This is straight from Wikipedia: * * *

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Harry Veeder
https://www.facebook.com/#!/EnergyCatalyzer Harry I posted this information on the _Cold Fusion Andrea Rossi Method_ Facebook page It has attracted over 1000 fans now... Harry Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, This is straight from Wikipedia: * * *

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-05-07 17:55, Jed Rothwell wrote: Mats Lewan says This means the EU patent is granted. Not necessarily, I'm afraid. Or does he know more about this matter? By the way, it looks like Defkalion Green Technologies is aware of people's response to E-Cat related news. Have a look at their

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 7 May 2011 11:44:15 -0400: Hi, [snip] Ah, you beat me to it! I wonder if this will have a positive effect on other patent offices? Isn't it just a patent request (i.e. not yet granted)? Isn't there a rule that they have to honor a patent in

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Ah, you beat me to it! I wonder if this will have a positive effect on other patent offices? Isn't it just a patent request (i.e. not yet granted)? I have no idea. I don't know enough Italian to judge. I will ask Rossi. The Defkalion site says the patent was

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Isn't it just a patent request (i.e. not yet granted)? Nope. The form says issued and a new number is applied. From the Grik web site: Patent number 0001387256/ April 6th 2011 on the WIPO application number MI2008A 000629 T

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM,  mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Isn't it just a patent request (i.e. not yet granted)? Nope.  The form says issued and a new number is applied.  From the Grik web site: Patent number

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
I think we will see ECats starting to be pumped out. Revenue will flow in. Challenges will be issued. Lawyers will be unleased. I doubt that any of us will live to see a resolution to the claims; but, we might all benefit from the products.

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Didn't we all notice that the patent does not include Focardi's name? T

RE: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
LOL. The Chinese curse ... ...If you are Rossi, then the next of the 3 curses could be worse: May you come to the attention of those in authority Curse or no, these are interesting times ... -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't it just a patent request (i.e. not yet granted)? Nope. The form says issued and a new number is applied. From the Grik web site: You lost me. What is the Grik web site? Greek? What site? The Italian Wikipedia says the following, translated

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Patent number 0001387256/ April 6th 2011 on the WIPO application number MI2008A 000629 This is here: http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2009125444 You can read the whole thing. I assume this is it. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: You lost me. What is the Grik web site? Greek? What site? Defkalion Green Technologies S.A. is a legal entity operating under Greek Law with sole purpose to sell, license, and manufacture industrialized commercially

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Patent number 0001387256/ April 6th 2011 on the WIPO application number MI2008A 000629 This is here:

RE: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Iverson
! -Mark -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:12 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:59

RE: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Iverson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent And what about this little tidbit: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,761201,00.html Greece Considers Exit from Euro Zone By Christian Reiermann REUTERS A protest against austerity measures in Athens

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: You are saying the patent might be different from the application? How so? We do not know what is in the recently granted patent. Plus we do not know what pressures might have been brought to bear on the patent office

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 7 May 2011 22:25:02 -0400: Hi, [snip] A protest against austerity measures in Athens. Greece is considering leaving the euro zone, according to sources in the German government. [snip] I don't really see the point. Bankrupt is bankrupt. It's not the

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:49 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I don't really see the point. Bankrupt is bankrupt. It's not the fault of the Euro, and changing currencies isn't going to make any difference. If Defkalion is playing a part, then Greece's fortunes will turn (it's Nickel reserves are

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Oh, heck, the ECat is probably a measurement error anyway. I'm going to bed. :-) T

RE: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Iverson
Sweet Dreams... Of E-Cats jumping over band-gaps! -Mark -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:03 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent Oh, heck, the ECat is probably a measurement

Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent

2011-05-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sat, 7 May 2011 22:54:28 -0400: Hi, [snip] On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:49 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I don't really see the point. Bankrupt is bankrupt. It's not the fault of the Euro, and changing currencies isn't going to make any difference. If