Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
--Original Message- > From: Harry Veeder > To: vortex-l > Sent: Mon, Jun 18, 2012 12:48 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE... > > With respect to neutrinos and beta decay, CoE may be a possibility > rather than a necessity. > Neutrinos would be regar

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
This subject thread (which is mostly "on topic") and for which Mark is guilty of instigating, got me to thinking... For centuries a plethora of meticulously crafted scientific physics experiments seem to confirm over and over the fact that we live in a closed system. This has resulted in an almo

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-18 Thread Harvey Norris
Well pardon me, that seems obvious, but I dont think I saw those words anywhere in the original post. I wish that folks using abbreviations could do that for the ones they use. --- On Mon, 6/18/12, Harry Veeder wrote: From: Harry Veeder Subject: Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-18 Thread Harry Veeder
ha! Harry On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Robert Lynn < robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > Church of England (or possibly Conservation of Energy) > > On 18 June 2012 17:10, Harvey Norris wrote: > >> What does CoE stand for, I guess it means in a closed system? Thy symbols >> dont match t

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-18 Thread Robert Lynn
l Resonances > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ > > --- On *Sun, 6/17/12, David Roberson * wrote: > > > From: David Roberson > Subject: Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE... > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Date: Sunday, June 17, 2012, 8:15 PM > >

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-18 Thread Harvey Norris
Roberson Subject: Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE... To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, June 17, 2012, 8:15 PM Mark, you ask the tough questions.  When I consider the possibility of a new energy form I have to think of the historic past.  We are notoriously incapable of imagining

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-17 Thread David Roberson
: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Jun 18, 2012 12:48 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE... With respect to neutrinos and beta decay, CoE may be a possibility ather than a necessity. eutrinos would be regarded as incomplete entities at the moment of heir creation. They remain incomplete until

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-17 Thread Harry Veeder
With respect to neutrinos and beta decay, CoE may be a possibility rather than a necessity. Neutrinos would be regarded as incomplete entities at the moment of their creation. They remain incomplete until they are destroyed during a subsequent interaction. As long as they never interact, they remai

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-17 Thread Harry Veeder
The apparent lack of anti-matter in the universe is also conundrum from the standpoint of CoE. harry On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:54 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint > wrote: > >> Hence, when someone adamantly relies on CoE, saying that such and such is >>

RE: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-17 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
as humans are doing science, cognitive dissonance will slow our discovery of the unknown… -Mark From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:16 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE... Mark, you ask the tough

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-17 Thread David Roberson
beta decay. The neutrino came to the rescue of the CoE in that case. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l Sent: Sun, Jun 17, 2012 8:09 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE... On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:54 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Hence

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-17 Thread David Roberson
Mark, you ask the tough questions. When I consider the possibility of a new energy form I have to think of the historic past. We are notoriously incapable of imagining things such as this unless some well observed phenomenon is unknown and accepted as true. Anything our senses can not detect

Re: [Vo]:The missing half of the Law of CoE...

2012-06-17 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:54 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Hence, when someone adamantly relies on CoE, saying that such and such is > impossible since it would violate CoE, they are not a scientist in my mind. > I don't know about the "not a scientist" part, but I personally have no profound attach