Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2016-08-31 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
I am pasting the first few items for reference for those who cannot filter the dump < http://dbpedia.org/ontology/deathDate> "1876-06-04"^^< http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date> < http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN978-1-59339-837-

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2016-08-31 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
yes taking the 1st entry for example < http://dbpedia.org/ontology/deathDate> "1876-06-04"^^< http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date> < http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN978-1-59339-837-8> . is about https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q151

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2016-08-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Did they have a date of death in Wikidata as well ? Thanks, GerardM On 31 August 2016 at 11:53, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: > Based on the other open related thread [1] there are references for the > deathDate of 1950 people [2] > I manually checked a random 5 pages and all had a refer

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2016-08-31 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
Based on the other open related thread [1] there are references for the deathDate of 1950 people [2] I manually checked a random 5 pages and all had a reference "imported from Wikipedia" so maybe this is a good start (cc'ing wiki-cite after Dario's suggestion on the other thread) Best, Dimitris

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2016-01-27 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
Coming back to an old thread. We now extract references from Wikipedia and are available in the 2015-10 beta release citation_data_en.ttl.bz2 citation_links_en.ttl.bz2

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Magnus Knuth
Am 04.06.2015 um 14:00 schrieb Markus Krötzsch : > On 04.06.2015 12:17, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: > ... >> >>Another question: can DBpedia extract references from Wikipedia >>articles too? If this would be possible, it might be feasible to >>guess and suggest a reference (or a list

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 04.06.2015 12:17, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: ... Another question: can DBpedia extract references from Wikipedia articles too? If this would be possible, it might be feasible to guess and suggest a reference (or a list of references). Especially with things like date of death

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > On 04.06.2015 11:05, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: > >> We are currently working on something that could be extended to be used >> as a source of finding data conflicts / import. >> I have to check if this can

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 June 2015 at 11:32, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > If we want to make visible that our data is good, you have to approach it > from another angle. Adding sources to all statements is not going to happen. > Comparing data that exists in multiple sources is comparatively easy. When > data at Wikida

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 June 2015 at 11:27, John Erling Blad wrote: > In some countries there are birth and death registers that can be > queried, often only to validate a date, but it usually comes with > access limitations and a cost. Any idea how we could automate a check > against those? We could work with our

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 June 2015 at 10:56, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > the primary sources tool New to me - where can we read more about this, please? > Especially with things like date of death, one would expect that references > have a publication date very close to (but strictly after) the event Often the same

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread John Erling Blad
Interesting... https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase_Quality_Extensions On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:27 PM, John Erling Blad wrote: >> In some countries there are birth and death registers that can be >> queried, often only to validate a

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This is the all singing all dancing solution. When can we have something now .. It does not need to be integrated. It only needs to work. Thanks, GerardM Why wait for tomorrow when it can be done now ? On 4 June 2015 at 12:54, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:27 PM,

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:27 PM, John Erling Blad wrote: > In some countries there are birth and death registers that can be > queried, often only to validate a date, but it usually comes with > access limitations and a cost. Any idea how we could automate a check > against those? That is https:

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If we want to make visible that our data is good, you have to approach it from another angle. Adding sources to all statements is not going to happen. Comparing data that exists in multiple sources is comparatively easy. When data at Wikidata is the same as a source like VIAF or IMDB, we do n

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread John Erling Blad
In some countries there are birth and death registers that can be queried, often only to validate a date, but it usually comes with access limitations and a cost. Any idea how we could automate a check against those? John ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikid

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > That's exactly what I am saying. I think your misconception is that what you > suggest does not happen because of some opposition from the Wikidata > community. In reality, it simply does not happen because nobody did it yet, > neither from

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Erics wikiadres
Good day, In my opinion it's a fine service (especially for me). I agree with Gerard concerning the use of DBpedia. best regards, Eric van Balkum p.s. We can add one to the list nl.WIKIPEDIA.org/WIKI/ALBERT_WEST (or the bot will do so) Gerard Meijssen schreef op 2015-06-04 10:49: > Hoi, Mar

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 04.06.2015 11:05, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: We are currently working on something that could be extended to be used as a source of finding data conflicts / import. I have to check if this can be integrated with the primary sources tool. I hope we have something ready in the next couple of we

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
We are currently working on something that could be extended to be used as a source of finding data conflicts / import. I have to check if this can be integrated with the primary sources tool. I hope we have something ready in the next couple of weeks and I'll get back at this thread. Best, Dimitr

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 04.06.2015 10:49, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Markus with all due respect, we have a LOT of data in Wikidata that is plain wrong. When we add the missing data from DBpedia it is of a higher quality than what we have. Insisting that it first needs to be validated is foolish. It is not done for

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Markus with all due respect, we have a LOT of data in Wikidata that is plain wrong. When we add the missing data from DBpedia it is of a higher quality than what we have. Insisting that it first needs to be validated is foolish. It is not done for any of the work we do. All our bots make use o

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Dmitris, Interesting situation. If you have contradictory data from several templates, then the challenge will be to find out which information is correct for importing it to Wikidata. Could your dataset maybe become an input to the primary sources tool [1]? Then Wikidata users could help t

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-04 Thread Dimitris Kontokostas
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > On 03.06.2015 22:44, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > >> Hoi, >> The Dutch indicated their willingness to add the dead to Wikidata ... I >> add quite a few dead from other countries and because of Jura1 >> Brazilians

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I care for the English Wikipedia data but the DBpedia for the English Wikipedia is NOT the same as the one for Russian, Dutch, French or German. They are distinct. I welcome the move by the English Wikipedia but it is only a small subset of the people who die. With the inclusion of all the DB

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 03.06.2015 22:44, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, The Dutch indicated their willingness to add the dead to Wikidata ... I add quite a few dead from other countries and because of Jura1 Brazilians who died in 2015 have an added significance. Given that we CAN produce lists like this, it makes sens

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The Dutch indicated their willingness to add the dead to Wikidata ... I add quite a few dead from other countries and because of Jura1 Brazilians who died in 2015 have an added significance. Given that we CAN produce lists like this, it makes sense to reconsider the offer by the fine people f

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Magnus Manske
Example for row template use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/listeria_test On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:26 PM Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 3 June 2015 at 14:44, Magnus Manske > wrote: > > > Ah, you mean there should be a row template for each type of list > > (otherwise, how to specif

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 June 2015 at 14:44, Magnus Manske wrote: > Ah, you mean there should be a row template for each type of list > (otherwise, how to specify "relevant"?)! Yes. I have an idea for a prototype, but no time right now. Watch this space... > I could add an option to use a specific row template in

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Jane Darnell
As I suggested before, it is probably better to use the list item as a reference. In this case Andy, your query for Listeria should be this: claim[361:6635653] This will give you 92 items according to Autolist1 and I think this corresponds to you enwiki list. That list has lots of hand-formatting,

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 3 June 2015 at 11:20, Magnus Manske > wrote: > > >> * Use a template for each row. > > >> You can see an example of the latter (albeit not drawn from Wikidata) > >> on, for example, > > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_art_

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 June 2015 at 11:20, Magnus Manske wrote: >> * Use a template for each row. >> You can see an example of the latter (albeit not drawn from Wikidata) >> on, for example, >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_art_in_the_City_of_Westminster > {{public art row}} is ... very topic-spe

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:02 AM Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 3 June 2015 at 06:16, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > > list of people who died in Brazil in 2015 [1]. > > > page for people who died in the Netherlands in 2015 [2]. It is trivially > easy to do this and, the result is > > great. The result l

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 June 2015 at 06:16, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > list of people who died in Brazil in 2015 [1]. > page for people who died in the Netherlands in 2015 [2]. It is trivially easy > to do this and, the result is > great. The result looks great, it can be used for any country in any > Wikipedia >

Re: [Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-03 Thread Magnus Manske
Added an automatic "find images" link to the template; that Brazil list looks awfully sparse in terms of pictures :-( On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:17 AM Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Jura1 created a wonderful list of people who died in Brazil in 2015 [1]. > It is a page that may update regularly

[Wikidata] People who died in 2015 who were Dutch

2015-06-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Jura1 created a wonderful list of people who died in Brazil in 2015 [1]. It is a page that may update regularly from Wikidata thanks to the ListeriaBot. Obviously, there may be a few more because I am falling ever more behind with my quest for registering deaths in 2015. I have copied his wo