Re: Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

My apologies. I didn't realize random Google employees trump legal documents their high paid lawyers so tediously put together. That's just me, though. YMMV. ;-) On Sat, 2007-08-25 at 19:00 -0500, Gerry Creager wrote: > The first is a hold-harmless: They don't want to be responsible for > stup

Re: [Xastir] IGating

Earl Needham wrote: At 03:20 PM 8/25/2007, James Ewen wrote: It's really hard to make good comments on a system that you can only observe via the APRS-IS, without any knowledge of the local terrain. Wow, it's GREAT to see somebody finally acknowledge this! I've been trying to tell pe

Re: [Xastir] IGating

James Ewen wrote: The best thing anyone can do for their local RF network is user education. Teach people that long paths are not required. Get them to reduce thier impact on the local network, and more people will be able to play, as well as the network reliability will increase. It's a tough jo

Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

> I've discussed the first with them directly. They're intrigued by Xastir (and APRS in general) and see it not as a violation. Even if used in your car. All the more reason to spawn development! > What would you want to scrape? I'd make the data available as a network option from within Xasti

Re: [Xastir] IGating

Hi Alex - I don't think so. Once a server receives the packet it will not send on the same packet if it hears it come in from a different igate or server. Imagine this: One server (we'll call it "A") has 5 different igates connected to it from one area and another server (we'll call it "B") has

Re: [Xastir] IGating

At 05:43 PM 8/25/2007, James Ewen wrote: On 8/25/07, Earl Needham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 03:20 PM 8/25/2007, James Ewen wrote: > >It's really hard to make good comments on a system that you can only > >observe via the APRS-IS, without any knowledge of the local terrain. > > Wow,

Re: [Xastir] IGating

On 8/25/07, Earl Needham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 03:20 PM 8/25/2007, James Ewen wrote: > >It's really hard to make good comments on a system that you can only > >observe via the APRS-IS, without any knowledge of the local terrain. > > Wow, it's GREAT to see somebody finally acknowle

Re: [Xastir] IGating

On 8/25/07, Alex Carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In that same train of thought, it would be nice if the > APRS-IS could show the duplicate packets instead of > discarding them. Then you possibly _could_ get a > better understanding of the RF network by watching how > a packet propagates and du

Re: [Xastir] IGating

--- Matt Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/25/07, Alex Carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In that same train of thought, it would be nice if > the > > APRS-IS could show the duplicate packets instead > of > > discarding them. Then you possibly _could_ get a > > better understanding

Re: [Xastir] IGating

On 8/25/07, Alex Carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In that same train of thought, it would be nice if the > APRS-IS could show the duplicate packets instead of > discarding them. Then you possibly _could_ get a > better understanding of the RF network by watching how > a packet propagates and d

Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

The first is a hold-harmless: They don't want to be responsible for stupid user tricks when you use Google Earth in a manner they can't prove is safe. The second is to allow them and their license-holders the right and opportunity to see hard-copy output in large volumes. I've discussed the

Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

What would you want to scrape? I'd make the data available as a network option from within Xastir... and I might also consider standing up an APRS KML data server. Keep up the ideas. We might kindle something here after all! gerry Stephen - K1LNX wrote: My first thoughts on implementation

Re: [Xastir] IGating

--- Earl Needham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 03:20 PM 8/25/2007, James Ewen wrote: > >It's really hard to make good comments on a system > that you can only > >observe via the APRS-IS, without any knowledge of > the local terrain. > > Wow, it's GREAT to see somebody finally > acknow

Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

On Sat, 2007-08-25 at 06:47 -0500, Gerry Creager wrote: > Near as I could tell, it's not on Google's horizon but they're amenable > to almost any non-terrorist use of Google Maps||Earth. > > I've looked at this a couple of times lately but I'm pure outta cycles > and interrupt processing right n

Re: [Xastir] IGating

At 03:20 PM 8/25/2007, James Ewen wrote: It's really hard to make good comments on a system that you can only observe via the APRS-IS, without any knowledge of the local terrain. Wow, it's GREAT to see somebody finally acknowledge this! I've been trying to tell people that for maybe 1

Re: [Xastir] IGating

On 8/25/07, Greg Eigsti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we are both agreeing that the DB0ANF tool is better for > looking at iGate activity than Findu. Not because the data is > different but because the DB0ANF tool allow you to view the data > differently. Most definitely. Presentation of

Re: [Xastir] IGating

On 8/25/07, Steve Friis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The hope is that the El Paso, Local an URFMS digi's will lower the hops > they retransmit. > See my comment above. I was not thinking that supposition, but the way I > worded my first comment I can see how you would think that is what I meant.

Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

On 8/25/07, Stephen - K1LNX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My first thoughts on implementation for this would be some kind of scraping > method maybe? I certainly wouldn't want to abuse Google's servers, but what > about passing static strings with the positional as a standard http request > and then

Re: [Xastir] Newer xastir ?.

1.9.1 if you compile from source --- Erik Jakobsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. > > Running openSuSE 10.2, and Xastir 1.8.5 > Is there a more new version for SuSE ? > > -- > Med venlig hilsen / Best regards > Erik Jakobsen OZ4KK > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > openSuSE 10.2 (i586) > >

[Xastir] Newer xastir ?.

Hi. Running openSuSE 10.2, and Xastir 1.8.5 Is there a more new version for SuSE ? -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen OZ4KK [EMAIL PROTECTED] openSuSE 10.2 (i586) ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin

Re: [Xastir] IGating

Looking at the DB0ANF page I realized that the report is named "APRS Stations using USAM as their Digi / Uplink" - this appears to mean that the report shows stations that were either digi'ed OR iGated by a particular station. So it appears that I was in error to believe that DB0ANF report

Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

My first thoughts on implementation for this would be some kind of scraping method maybe? I certainly wouldn't want to abuse Google's servers, but what about passing static strings with the positional as a standard http request and then somehow getting that data to display inside Xastir? There are

RE: [Xastir] GraphicsMagick (aka.. Too hot in Alabama)

Most likely I used YAST and SUSE 10.2 Maybe I can work on an XASTIR software repositry and install notes ? Andrew Rich VK4TEC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tech-software.net -Original

Re: [Xastir] IGating

James Ewen wrote: On 8/24/07, Steve Friis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Way cool. Since the RF pollution is so high here, I am trying to lower it some to that low power stations can be heard, or at least stand a chance. Steve, Another incorrect supposition. Adding i-gating to your stati

Re: [Xastir] IGating

On 8/24/07, Steve Friis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Way cool. Since the RF pollution is so high here, I am trying to lower > it some to that low power stations can be heard, or at least stand a > chance. Steve, Another incorrect supposition. Adding i-gating to your station will not lower the am

Re: [Xastir] IGating

On 8/24/07, Greg Eigsti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>How do I use Findu to see if I am IGating? > > > > The tool mentioned by VE7MKF is a better iGate 'test' than Findu. > However if you know you are iGating someone (or think you are) you > can look them up in findu and see their raw data. Jus

Re: [Xastir] GraphicsMagick (aka.. Too hot in Alabama)

GraphicsMagickis the same rev level that I use on the T42 (Fedora 7) ImageMagick 6.3.2 also. Sounds like your pkg of GM/IM was not compiled with the support because mine is working just fine. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Andrew Rich wrote: GraphicsMagick-1.1.7-24 ImageMagick-6.3.0.0-16 Imag

Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

What we're looking at is dynamically creating the KMLs that look to the APRS-IS, connect for receive-only and snag the data directly, I think. There may also be a path to have Xastir spawn a client process to fire off GoogleEarth and act as the server for the KML seeks. I've not thought throug

Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

Yes. O'Reilley's Google Map Hacks is a good place to start. For our purposes, I don't think this is an issue but positional accuracy may be an issue using Google data since they don't verify that, but use data they obtain/purchase as-is, with the caveat that the user is responsible for such t

Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps

Near as I could tell, it's not on Google's horizon but they're amenable to almost any non-terrorist use of Google Maps||Earth. I've looked at this a couple of times lately but I'm pure outta cycles and interrupt processing right now. gerry Stephen - K1LNX wrote: That would be *AWESOME* Per

Re: [Xastir] IGate into socal.aprs2.net?

Ooops. I may have an explanation for my problem. When I set up my 100 mile filter on the socal.aprs2.net INET interface, I used rounded LAT/LON numbers, which put the center of my filter 20 to 30 miles away from me. The stations I was missing were within 100 miles of me but maybe not the center