[zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris 2008.11

2008-12-07 Thread Edward Irvine
Folks, For those of you who haven't had time to follow the Open Solaris project, I recommend the this excellent screen cast. Of particular interest to this list is how ZFS is used to implement a version of Apple's Time Machine. http://webcast-west.sun.com/interactive/09B12437/index.html

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-07 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Aaron Blew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done some basic testing with a X4150 machine using 6 disks in a RAID 5 and RAID Z configuration. They perform very similarly, but RAIDZ definitely has more system overhead. In many cases this won't be a big deal, but if

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-07 Thread Tomas Ă–gren
On 07 December, 2008 - Johan Hartzenberg sent me these 6,3K bytes: For what it is worth, have a look at my ZFS feature wishlist / AKA what it would take to make ZFS _THE_ last word in storage management: http://initialprogramload.blogspot.com/2008/07/zfs-missing-features.html #2 can kinda be

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool cannot replace a replacing device

2008-12-07 Thread Brian Couper
hi, --- replacing UNAVAIL 0 543 0 insufficient replicas -- 17096229131581286394 FAULTED 0 581 0 was /dev/dsk/c0t2d0s0/old -- 11342560969745958696 FAULTED [u][b]0 582 0[/b][/u] was /dev/dsk/c0t2d0s0 Looking at that, i dont think you have fixed the original fault. Its still getting write

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool cannot replace a replacing device

2008-12-07 Thread Courtney Malone
Well you would think that would be the case, but the behavior is the same whether the disk is physically present or not. I can even use cfgadm to unconfigure the deevice and the pool will stay in the same state and not let me offline/detach/replace the vdev. also I don't have any spare ports

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-07 Thread Torrey McMahon
I'm pretty sure I understand the importance of a snapshot API. (You take the snap, then you do the backup or whatever) My point is that, at least on my quick read, you can do most of the same things with the ZFS command line utilities. The relevant question would then be how stable that is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-07 Thread Ian Collins
On Mon 08/12/08 08:14 , Torrey McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I'm pretty sure I understand the importance of a snapshot API. (You take the snap, then you do the backup or whatever) My point is that, at least on my quick read, you can do most of the same things with the ZFS command

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-07 Thread Torrey McMahon
Ian Collins wrote: On Mon 08/12/08 08:14 , Torrey McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I'm pretty sure I understand the importance of a snapshot API. (You take the snap, then you do the backup or whatever) My point is that, at least on my quick read, you can do most of the same things

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-07 Thread Ian Collins
On Mon 08/12/08 09:14 , Torrey McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Ian Collins wrote: Or through the APIs provided by libzfs. I'm not sure if those are published/supported as opposed to just being readable in the source. I think the ADM project is the droid we're looking for. Fair point,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem with ZFS and ACL with GDM

2008-12-07 Thread Brian Cameron
Mark/Tomas/Miles: Thanks for the information. Unfortunately, using chmod/chown does not seem a workable solution to me, unless I am missing something. Normally logindevperm(4) is used for managing the ownership and permissions of device files (like the audio device), and if the GDM daemon just

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool cannot replace a replacing device

2008-12-07 Thread Brian Couper
zpool replace data 11342560969745958696 c0t2d0 that might replace the drive BUT you will have to sort out the hardware error first. For now forget about zfs and what is says about the zpool status. Concentrate on fixing the hardware error. Use the manufacturs drive check boot CD to check the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-07 Thread Joseph Zhou
Yes, yes, Torrey, that's why I like you! You are getting there -- the argument of snopshot is not key in its absolute elegance, but what it does in the overall solution. When you are talking about PiT with ADM, it made more sense, didn't it? Please keep in mind that OpenSolaris and ZFS don't

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Joseph Zhou wrote: Please keep in mind that OpenSolaris and ZFS don't need to be the greatest technology today, and we need to respect the older generation engineers' thoughts -- it's an evolution of transfering enterprise capabilities to industry-standard solutions -- not

Re: [zfs-discuss] Upgrading my ZFS server

2008-12-07 Thread SV
js.lists , or anyone else who is using a XFX MDA72P7509 Motherboard --- that onboard NIC is a Marvell? - Do you choose not to use it in favor of the Intel PCI NIC? Marvell provides Solaris 10 x86/x64 drivers on their website, I was hoping the Marvell works in Opensolaris, because 97% of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem with ZFS and ACL with GDM

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
ACL's seemed a good solution since it leaves the overall ownership and permissions of the device the same, but just adds the gdm user as having permission to access the device as needed. Is there any way to get this same sort of behavior when using ZFS. I think you may have

Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux

2008-12-07 Thread James C. McPherson
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:28:36 -0500 Joseph Zhou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian, Tim, again, thank you very much in answering my question. I am a bit disappointed that the whole discussion group does not have one person to stand up and say yeah, OpenSolaris absolutely outperforms Linux and

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool cannot replace a replacing device

2008-12-07 Thread Courtney Malone
the disk passes sector by sector write tests both with the vendor diag and seatools, the cable failed as soon as i tried it in another machine. the disk is good, the cable was not. it also shows up in format just fine and it has the same partition layout as all the other disks in the pool.

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool cannot replace a replacing device

2008-12-07 Thread Courtney Malone
is there anyway to use zdb to simply remove those vdevs since they arent active members of the pool? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

[zfs-discuss] How to use mbuffer with zfs send/recv

2008-12-07 Thread Julius Roberts
How do i compile mbuffer for our system, Thanks to Mike Futerko for help with the compile, i now have it installed OK. and what syntax to i use to invoke it within the zfs send recv? Still looking for answers to this one? Any example syntax, gotchas etc would be much appreciated. -- Kind

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to use mbuffer with zfs send/recv

2008-12-07 Thread Thomas Maier-Komor
Julius Roberts wrote: How do i compile mbuffer for our system, Thanks to Mike Futerko for help with the compile, i now have it installed OK. and what syntax to i use to invoke it within the zfs send recv? Still looking for answers to this one? Any example syntax, gotchas etc would be

Re: [zfs-discuss] help please - The pool metadata is corrupted

2008-12-07 Thread Brett
here is the requested output of raidz_open2.d upon running a zpool status :- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/export/home/brett# ./raidz_open2.d run 'zpool import' to generate trace 60027449049959 BEGIN RAIDZ OPEN 60027449049959 config asize = 4000755744768 60027449049959 config ashift = 9 60027507681841

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool cannot replace a replacing device

2008-12-07 Thread Brian Couper
Am at the limit of my knowlage now. google man zpool UNAVAIL is coming up because the zpool was imported with the drive missing. Try exporting the pool, rebooting then importing it with the drive connected. UNAVAIL The device could not be opened. If a pool is imported when a device was