Fw: [313] taking off labels
beat street rocks my mind every weekone of the best movies madebesides style wars,,lol head up out there -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: .: Caltrop :. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Datum: Samstag, 10. März 2001 23:49 RON Betreff: Re: [313] taking off labels >that reminds me of a scene in "beat street" where this one dj was telling >another guy that he masked the labels of his fressshhhest records so that >nobody else can trainspot them :) > > > >>From: "darw_n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "ice-a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> >>Subject: Re: [313] taking off labels >>Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:39:40 -0500 >> >>you can soak them, water wont harm the record at all, use rubbing alcohol >>if >>there's glue on them... >> >>My question is why do people hide there records so much? >> >>That's not a sarcastic question, I'm serious. Why, particularly with >>detroit, is techno tracks totally hidden? >> >>darw_n >> >>"create, demonstrate, toneshift..." >> >>http://www.thedemonstration.com >>http://www.sphereproductions.com >>http://www.mannequinodd.com >>search "djdarwin" on napster >>- Original Message - >>From: "ice-a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <313@hyperreal.org> >>Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 3:27 PM >>Subject: [313] taking off labels >> >> >> > Hi guys >> > >> > Just trying to work out what is the best way to remove the paper label >>from >> > a record without damaging it too much? i know some of you have done it >> > before :) >> > >> > ab >> > [flip the scrip and down pitch the speed] >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> >>- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel"
Haye! I've been playing Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel" for the last two hours non stop. This track is *incredible*! Has anyone got some sugestions on stuff like this? Lay "Unconditional Empowerment" http://barkingcat.org/counterforce
Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel"
Haye! I've been playing Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel" for the last two hours non stop. This track is *incredible*! Has anyone got some sugestions on stuff like this? Lay "Unconditional Empowerment" http://barkingcat.org/counterforce
Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel"
Haye! I've been playing Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel" for the last two hours non stop. This track is *incredible*! Has anyone got some sugestions on stuff like this? Lay "Unconditional Empowerment" http://barkingcat.org/counterforce
Re: [313] Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel"
-Original Message- From: Counterforce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Saturday, March 10, 2001 9:28 PM Subject: [313] Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel" > >Haye! > >I've been playing Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel" for the last two hours non stop. >This track is *incredible*! Has anyone got some sugestions on stuff like >this? Try "Angora" on Prescription. It's another Roy Davis, Jr and Pevin Everitt (sp?) collaboration. Probably hard to find though. They also collaborated on a record on Cajual, "Live on tha Set" I think it's called. I'm sure there's been others too. Tristan -- Lots of music, pics and info here: http://www.mp3.com/stations/313 http://www.mp3.com/Frogbot http://phonopsia.tripod.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] on AOL IM _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel"
Haye! I've been playing Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel" for the last two hours non stop. This track is *incredible*! Has anyone got some sugestions on stuff like this? Lay "Unconditional Empowerment" http://barkingcat.org/counterforce
Re: [313] taking off labels
> > Hell, we booked Doc Scott for one of our events at the end of march, and on > the flier, we put "dropping the freshest dub-plates", we don't care about > that, we just care if the DJ is skilled or not... > dub plates are possibly the most important (and topical) part of drum and bass at present, its not like techno ab [flip the scrip and down pitch the speed]
exp+min+det techno in tampa, fl march 15th
hate to spam, but i was on this list a few months ago and had conversations with members about buying IDM/techno in tampa (sensous sounds anyone)? so if those people are still here, you may find the following tampa area event interesting. www.grassrootz.org or www.grassrootz.org/drumd.txt other techno events in tampa include derrick may @ rain lounge on april 7th. if anyone knows of any IDM events in the area, please let me know, i'm always interested. peace _ __ ___ __ ___ ___ _.`--. | . /..`--.\ . /.|- ._ | \| | |'| || | \ | || |/s P I N S A N e| | -|---'|| || |--\| || | _| | ||| || | \ || | --\ '---'| '---''---'www.apt103.net/~spinsane wH0?// email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED] if no response
Re: [313] Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel"
Hi > >I've been playing Roy Davis Jr.'s "Gabriel" for the last two hours non > stop. > >This track is *incredible*! Has anyone got some sugestions on stuff like > >this? yeah, this has to be one of my fav records ever! love it! check out his track 'Michael' i think it's called. not as good as Gabriel, but still nice. i downloaded it from Napster, but not sure if that's still around. Fred from this list recommended some more downtempo, groovy house like this to me once, if I can find the email, i'll forward it on to you. peace nath
more tracklisting q's
Anyone got track listings for any of these? Pandamonium 002 (Dewayne Davis: It Shows) Pandamonium 005 (NJB: Love Me In the Rain) Pandamonium 007 (NJB: Dreams) Pandamonium 013 (Dewayne Davis: Wha Cha Do For Me) And also which track by KDJ is on the Abstract Fusion comp . Anyone helping me out gets the personal satisfaction of helping finish the KDJ/Theo/NJB/Wilhite discography (for now) . if anyone is curious there are nearly 100 records listed with tracks (very little overlap) by the 3 Chairs and Norma . yikes. And I don't even know about all the missing catalog #'s . Matt
Re:[313] record label websites
they're really busy? chariot is an adelaide isp right? maybe you can enlighten me where to go here. I went to Qbar the one time, then I hear it burned down. it wasn't me! forty **jeff mills friday** On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:40:57 +1030 Dave Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Why is it that some of the most forward thinking artists and record labels >around today have some of the worst websites for information (out of date >info, pages and pages of flash intros.) > >Two big exceptions (that i can think of) to this are the AXIS RECORDS and >PURESONIK websites, With lots of weblogs appearing these days i would like >to see labels supplying more up-to-date info, what do you think?. > >Release dates of records, where to obtain online, artist bios, sound files, >news that is current, email mailing lists etc. > >I am interested in what makes a good record label website?, what things do >you like to see, etc? > >Also in another web/313 related thread.. >It sounds like their will be more techno tourists from around the world >visiting Detroit this year for the 2nd DEMF, it would be good to have a >permanent website that is full of information (aimed at people who are into >Detroit techno) on where to stay, where to visit, shop etc - maybe one >already exists?. > > >Dave > > > > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * Want free email? Sign up at http://www.freeze.com !
RTRFM 92.1 Ambient Zone Webcast
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Re: (don't) take off labels
taking off the labels of records to make sure no one can identify what you're playing (if that is why you want to do it), is (IMHO) showing a complete disrespect towards the artist that made that record. imagine you've produced some awesome track, and some dj plays it. then you see someone walk up to the decks to see what track it is, only to find out the dj doesn't want him/her to know what it is, and has taken of the label. i would be extremely pissed, now the dj has made it practically impossible for this person to by MY record, just because he wants to be the only one to play that tune. as for 'famous' dj's doing this. not all of them do this, most just get a $#!Tload of white labels send to them, and half of the time they don't even know the title (or even the artist) of the track they're playing. there's an interview with derrick may at forcefield.org where he talks about this 'problem', check it out. jurren _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
CLAUDE & GLASGOW
TRUE PEOPLE @ Sub Club @ Substitute Venue, Planet Peach, 34 Queen Street, Glasgow Monthly Fridays11pm - 3am £tbc Detroit techno legend CLAUDE YOUNG has arrived in town! Rumours have been circulating wildly in Glasgow these last few weeks & we can now reveal that Claude will be starting his first ever UK residency at the infamous Sub Club in the form of his own night, TRUE PEOPLE, which launches on FRIDAY 11TH MAY. True People aims to be an exclusive monthly party which will adopt an open music policy, where people will have access to a wider spectrum of music than they would normally hear at other techno based nights. Claude will be djing a 4 hour killer set at each party, and there will be no booking of big name dj¹s to attract the crowd here this is a strictly family affair if guests do appear, they will be friends of Claudes who are playing at the club for the party & vibe. (bets are on now to start guessing who his circle of friends are.!) Claude is one of the 2nd wave of techno producers/dj¹s to emerge from Detroit in the early 90¹s. He is enjoying worldwide recognition as one of the finest dj¹s on the scene and is renowned for his acrobatic style of djing, which he has described as ³hip hop djing with techno records². He travels the globe almost every weekend, playing to packed clubs in places like Spain, US & Tokyo on a regular basis. With his recent album ³Patterns² on Djax gaining critical acclaim, running his own label Deta Recordings & setting up his new website, Claude Young is big news as he becomes the first of Detroit¹s influential techno figures to set up a club night in Glasgow "True People" will be what the name suggests, a night for people who believe in the music, and not just the scene that revolves around it. Launch Night : Friday 11th May Next Dates : Friday 15th June, Friday 3rd August = ***saRu maNe***tm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Discographies Book
Has anyone read Ewan Pearson & Jermey Gilbert's book Discographies on dance music culture - it's published by Routledge so it must be fairly academic. How does it compare to Reynolds? Cheers Cyclone
Re: [313] taking off labels/blanks
Kieran wrote: How would the vinyl react with the minerals in the water, though? Jeffrey Paul: Bear in mind i'm not a chemist, but I doubt it'd do anything for just a few hours. If you're really anal though, one might consider >using distilled water, as there's chlorine and traces of other >corrosive things in tapwater, but i'm doubtful it'd hurt anything. Normal water doesn't do it, unless you keep the record about a year under running water. I tried water, all it does it softens the paper of the label, so it wears off, but the glue still remains. So you have records with ugly mushy white labels:) Alcohols and other strong chemicals tend to stink long after even if you've washed them, so I wouldn't do it... Sometimes you find old records and they're just in awful condition, labels all **cked-up, DJ's writing all over the labels etc... I'd rather look plain records. Proffit _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [313] taking off labels
In einer eMail vom 11.03.01 00:12:27 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: << if some crazy thing happens, and i become a "superstar dj" one day >> what makes you think this would ever happen? Maybe praying might help mr. superstar dj!!!
Re: [313] taking off labels
> a dj what record that he/she was playing (which is so rude, but so is making Why is it so rude? I don't think asking a DJ what they're playing is rude at, seems to me like more of a compliment, well it's one thing to interrupt someone when concentrating, but simply asking what a record is at the appropriate time should not be considered rude, and anyone with that attitude is way too full of themselves if you ask me. DJ's exist to spread the music and educate about the music they choose to play IMO
Re: [313] Re: (don't) take off labels
well put. plus, imo the label is also part of the record. the artwork on it, the way the information is arranged on it; without these things the record would lose some of its magic. ever noticed how sexy a record with label looks like when spinning on a deck? i'm sure most of you have :-) peter - Original Message - From: jurren baars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : taking off the labels of records to make sure no one can identify what : you're playing (if that is why you want to do it), is (IMHO) showing a : complete disrespect towards the artist that made that record. imagine you've : produced some awesome track, and some dj plays it. then you see someone walk : up to the decks to see what track it is, only to find out the dj doesn't : want him/her to know what it is, and has taken of the label. i would be : extremely pissed, now the dj has made it practically impossible for this : person to by MY record, just because he wants to be the only one to play : that tune. : as for 'famous' dj's doing this. not all of them do this, most just get a : $#!Tload of white labels send to them, and half of the time they don't even : know the title (or even the artist) of the track they're playing. : there's an interview with derrick may at forcefield.org where he talks about : this 'problem', check it out. : : jurren
A Couple of things...
Blaubac - Wind Chill If all you listened to was the first track, you'd think "sounds a bit too much like the Boards of Canada", but very soon this takes off into some really nice jazzy, experimental directions while retaining the BoC type dischordant melodic starins here and there. It also winds up sounding a bit more 'acoustic' than BoC do. Very good spin with enough to keep you going back to plumb the depths of it. Ladytron - 604 I loved this instantly. Very retro kitsch; 80s style klunky synth pop hooks with a modern knob spin on 'em. Loads of fun and hooks to match. Maybe it wears off quick (dunno - haven't had it that long), but it's a fun ride so far. Dave - Sensory Overload Great deep house stuff; a bit more lush than a lot of what's been coming out of Germany but certainly doesn't suffer for it. VA Praesentiert 3 (Raum...Music) And speaking of what's been coming out of Germany, this is a lovely compendium from Raum...Musik feat. Dub taylor, Michael Langlois, Kingsize XS and Dirk Diggler among others. Tosca - Suzuki in Dub I posted a recommendation for this a while back and was a bit surprised to find it dissed by a few. I'm not sure if the naysayers were reviewing "Suzuki" (which I found a tad light myself for K&D type fare) or actually noticed I was referencing the "in Dub" lp, which is Suzuki in remix . If you're a K&D fan, it's hard to see how this one would fail to satisfy as (imo) it's one the nicest of its ilk since the "Sessions" lp and the Walkner & Mostl ep (another great outing - they also do a remix here). Quant - Quantastical Quantasm I love this. At first I wasn't taken with the spoken-type voacls which crop up in several places, but the lush, warm, soulful, jazzy DeGiorgio type hooks resplendant throughout this lp make it a must-have in my book. And I got used to the vox. VA Full Fledged (Kanzleramt) Nice 2cd set of mixes/remixes by Anthony Rother, Heiko Laux, Diego, Double X, etc. which moves enough to keep you interested and goes deep enough to be a worthwhile buy. -- jeff ?/~THINK OUTSIDE OF YOUR SITCOM~\! ICQ904008 (but I'm never on) > http://www.freedonation.com (costs you nothing. try it)
peel em if you got 'em
Labels...take them off keep them on, who the f**k cares. Do you honestly think one DJ taking labels off a record is going to impede someone from finding out what it is? Tonnes of people flock to record stores everyday in search of that track that so and so played the other night, they usually don't know what label it's on or who it's by (remember an 8 point font on a record spinning at 33 and one third r.p.m's equals much dizziness when trying to read in a low light situation). They simply listen, and that's what techno has always been about; the music. Discovering that wicked track you heard at the club last week is half the fun of buying records. If I went out and knew exactly what I was looking for all the time I wouldn't have half as much fun, and I would feel anal for having to always have every tidbit of information at my fingertips. Discovery is half the process, and most of the fun. There's more to be said about finding that special record, then knowing what it is a grabbing it off the shelf [THE BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW] Realize this. As the number of producers grows, fewer of them will sell a great number of records. As the number of DJ's grow, the number of records sold will increase. If your record is good, it will sell. Also the number of records made are usually limited, so chances are the record will come close to, or will sell out if it's any good. I don't remember the producers paying the DJ to play his records, in fact last gig I played it was the promoter of the party who paid me, not all the fine people at Tresor, Kanzleramt etc. I search out great records to play in my set. If everyone played them yet didn't have to spend all the time I did discovering them (countless hours I can't imagine how much time I spend in record stores). Then that would make me less of a commodity, and take my work away from me. Note: I don't take the labels off all my records, but nor do I go out f my way to let people know what they are. I do plug local artists and let people know about them all the time. In addition I'm a firm believer in the don't bother the dj while he/she is playing. Imagine if you were playing in a band and some guy just walked up and started asking you questions while you were playing. It's just rude. best secretive dj: Traxx (I love this man)
Re: [313] taking off labels
should i pray to Jeff Mills the "Techno God"? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] taking off labels Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:11:25 EST In einer eMail vom 11.03.01 00:12:27 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: << if some crazy thing happens, and i become a "superstar dj" one day >> what makes you think this would ever happen? Maybe praying might help mr. superstar dj!!! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Re: (don't) take off labels
sexy, great word. reminds me when i put on tension records. :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (peter mueller) To: "jurren baars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Re: (don't) take off labels Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:33:34 +0100 well put. plus, imo the label is also part of the record. the artwork on it, the way the information is arranged on it; without these things the record would lose some of its magic. ever noticed how sexy a record with label looks like when spinning on a deck? i'm sure most of you have :-) peter - Original Message - From: jurren baars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : taking off the labels of records to make sure no one can identify what : you're playing (if that is why you want to do it), is (IMHO) showing a : complete disrespect towards the artist that made that record. imagine you've : produced some awesome track, and some dj plays it. then you see someone walk : up to the decks to see what track it is, only to find out the dj doesn't : want him/her to know what it is, and has taken of the label. i would be : extremely pissed, now the dj has made it practically impossible for this : person to by MY record, just because he wants to be the only one to play : that tune. : as for 'famous' dj's doing this. not all of them do this, most just get a : $#!Tload of white labels send to them, and half of the time they don't even : know the title (or even the artist) of the track they're playing. : there's an interview with derrick may at forcefield.org where he talks about : this 'problem', check it out. : : jurren - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] taking off labels
> dub plates are possibly the most important (and topical) part of drum and > bass at present, its not like techno why?? Don't get me wrong, I fully respect DnB, half my crew is composed of DnB, we sponsors Cleveland's best DnB events, etc etc. Fresh tunes are great, but why are they so protected, almost violently protected?? And the thing is, I ask all my friends this, and all the DJ's we bring in, so I know the standard answers, but I don't really see the logic in it... darw_n "create, demonstrate, toneshift..." http://www.thedemonstration.com http://www.sphereproductions.com http://www.mannequinodd.com search "djdarwin" on napster
NYC Folks: I spin @ Halcyon Tonight
http://www.halcyonline.com/ DJ Spinoza is spinning @ 9 and I'm @ 10. I'll be going for the head-scratchingly eclectic effect -- I've got some records I bought on the sidewalk on St. Marks Place to play, and some killer new records I got yesterday ... an hr won't be long enough to pack it all in! Meet me, meet my kids, drinks after at the Art Bar at 8th Ave and 14th st in manhattan.. kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes
Re: [313] taking off labels
The whole thing with removing labels is something that has come from the Jamacian sound system parties and early hip hop battles in the Bronx with DJs like Kool Herc. The DJs ran sound systems and would often have to battle with other systems to draw the biggest crowds and being able to play certain tunes that your rivals didn't know of was an important factor. This was a practice picked up by the Northen Soul Djs in the UK who played almost exclusivly rare and old Detroit soul. Because the rarity and obscurity of the music was such an important element for the scene and its DJs, then guarding the identity of a tune that a DJ may have searched dusty warehouses for days on end for was, for some, very imprtant. A DJs career could be made by simply having a particular tune that noone else could play. In the context of today's techno scene none of this is so much an issue. The majority of tunes are readily available and excessable by the time a record is relesed with a label to even remove in the first place. Some might say that by practicing this a DJ is putting thier ego above that of the recording artist and the record buying public and that in actually going to a club, fighting your way to the DJ box and managing to actually decipher the title of a rotating bit of vinyl you've put in enought work to earn the right to own it. Anyway, just thought I'd add to the debate. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
