[313] kirk degiorgio set at demf id

2001-05-29 Thread Aloke Mukherjee
well, i guess this is all complicated by the lack of archives, but can
someone help me from memory with a track id from kirk's set at demf?

from right near the beginning of his set, a few songs after at jazz' touch
the sun, a slow groove - four descending string washes - repeated...

aloke

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[313] DEMF afterparty review - treatment

2001-05-29 Thread Rob Sanheim
good lil party at one-x...

ben sims was amazing...he works 3 decks better then most guys on 2.  tons of
tricks, scratching tracks into the half beat with ease, then back on time,
effects used well (maybe a little too much echo), pretty much on beat all
the time with 3.  he honestly put everyone to shame at this party.  adam
beyer never showed, marco carolla was decent, punisher was okay.  didnt hear
much of the other room, i was too into sims and company to leave.  later
sims tagged with punisher and locutus, and rocked out some more.  he needs
to get booked in the states more.

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[313] OT: drum-n-bass stores

2001-05-29 Thread Sam Karmel
hi

a friend was looking for good stores to buy dnb on the
net.  He's looking for older t power  stuff

any suggestions

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Re: [313] OT: drum-n-bass stores

2001-05-29 Thread Mxyzptlk

Try a search on GEMM or Argus.
jeff
At 08:41 PM 5/28/2001 -0700, Sam Karmel wrote:

hi

a friend was looking for good stores to buy dnb on the
net.  He's looking for older t power  stuff

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Re: [313] DEMF Day 2

2001-05-29 Thread Mxyzptlk



I figured it must be someone's brother-in-law doing all of that. Geez - it 
put a damper on most everything every time it happened. INCREDIBLY lame.

jeff



And right at the moment I'm voting in favor of banning microphones on
the main stage.  If I hear Detroit, make some noise one more time,
why I oughta . . .




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[313] and God said unto Carol Marvin

2001-05-29 Thread Nathan John de Yonker
Let there be pea-sized hail



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Re: [313] and God said unto Carol Marvin

2001-05-29 Thread Mxyzptlk
Did anybody see the TV special (I think it aired Sunday - ?) where she was 
interviewed and gave her vision for DEMF 2002? My wife taped it so I 
could see it. I'll be more specific after I watch it tomorrow.

jeff
ps
Loved the CARL CRAIG = DEMF banner.
I'm glad the honored Carl along with Derrick, Kevin  Juan. A friend and I 
were just about to start chanting What about Carl? when they finally gave 
him some props - weak ones, I thought.



At 12:20 AM 5/29/2001 -0400, Nathan John de Yonker wrote:

Let there be pea-sized hail



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Re: [313] and God said unto Carol Marvin

2001-05-29 Thread Benn Glazier

At 12:20 AM 5/29/2001 -0400, you wrote:

Let there be pea-sized hail



In the beginning there was Carol, and Carol had no groove.
And from lack of groove came the groove of all grooves.
And one day while viciously throwing down on his box,
Carl boldly declared, Let there be DEMF!
and DEMF was born.


Well... anyway. :)

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Re: [313] and God said unto Carol Marvin

2001-05-29 Thread Ian
on 5/29/01 12:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let there be pea-sized hail

..to match the brain-size of many in attendance.  ;^)

Nevertheless had a good time, mostly when indoors after midnight.  Didn't
run into Phred once the whole weekend, so maybe I can fill in some gaps.
More to come, including some amateur shots and video clips...
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P.S. check it--my better half quoted here on the Sunday front page:
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[313] Re: and God said unto Carol Marvin

2001-05-29 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
It was only pea-sized? LOL Felt a little bigger than that to me...

I was standing next to the KMS tent when the damn hail hit... I guess it was
about shortly after 10 or so.  I saw the hail and I thought, well, I don't
suppose a tornado is next... then I realized I was standing just a few feet
from Kevin Saunderson... so then I mused, Well, I guess this wouldn't be
such a bad way to go LOL Got my picture taken with him, btw, so that
was really cool. :)

BTW, I saw a few people running past the vendor tents (a few moments before
the downpour and hail) with a huge red banner that said, DEMF = Carl
Craig... anyone in that group from the 313 list?  Just wondered.

I spent 3 hours in the car driving back to Indiana and I just got home...
I'm still freekin soaked

It was worth it though, dammit!  I'd do it again!



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[313] KMS - Ontoni

2001-05-29 Thread stuffed bird
Hi,

Has anyone any info on a 12 on KMS by Ontoni, so something like that?
A friend of mine had a copy a few years back but sold it, and is now very sorry 
because it was such a slamming track.

Any info is welcome!

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RE: [313] autechre anyone?

2001-05-29 Thread Rob Sanheim
i wanted to see them but it was just to insanely packed to even try and get
there.  they needed some crowd control down there.

rob

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Subject: [313] autechre anyone?


Did anyone get to see Autechre lastnight?  I could hardly get near it to
hear it, nevermind see it?  Any thoughts?

ken
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[313] slam on radio1 this w/e

2001-05-29 Thread robin pinning

for uk peeps and webcast people

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/prog_parse.cgi?FILENAME=20010602/20010603_0200_49697_36614_120

cheers

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Fw: [313] autechre anyone?

2001-05-29 Thread RocketKids
hey,
i saw em down here in germany,they were absolutely awesome,,,lots of
custom stuff on the satge.,,.,,powerbook,,
some analogue,,and the sound was great. the only thing not that good was
that they
played in a club where normally bad techno is played,,and the crowd (+-50
persons) didnt know
whos autechre and what music they do,so they just stood there
listening,,,
but for me it was one of the best gigs ive seen this millennium..
ron
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i wanted to see them but it was just to insanely packed to even try and get
there.  they needed some crowd control down there.

rob

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Subject: [313] autechre anyone?


Did anyone get to see Autechre lastnight?  I could hardly get near it to
hear it, nevermind see it?  Any thoughts?

ken
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[313] demf

2001-05-29 Thread Rob Theakston

to all i had the privlidge of meeting/seeing again over the weekend:

it was good seeing you.

i'm going to bed. see you next year.

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[313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Jayson B.
So what did you guys think?  did the Ford over do it?  Was it super 
commercialized to the point where it ruined the phatty underground vibe?




What i REALLY want to hear, is what you guys thought of our dearly beloved 
innovators  getting Ford Focuses at Cpop on friday night.  Is this a 
sellout move in their part?  or do they deserve the increase in success 
they've been recieving since last year?





Personally?



I was very impressed by how low key ford actually.  Yeah, they had two 
focuses at the front of the festival.  But there weren't any Huge Focus 
signs all over, there weren't people handing out buy a focus flyers, there 
wasn't anything like that.  Maybe its just me, but i just think someone at 
ford at the very least has a vague idea of what this culture is about.  
Sometimes Corporations support things because they Believe in them, and i 
think that maybe this was the Case this year.




Unless of course they used Laurent's Fantastic set as a subliminal message 
to allow us to be fed more corporate invasions for next year.



but that's just the conspiracy theorist in me.
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[313] Move over HPDJ

2001-05-29 Thread Kevin Conrad
This was lifted from a BBS, so I don't have a link to
the original article:

DJ Robot Turns the Tables 
By Katie Dean 

  A professor at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
is the man behind DJ I, Robot, which is the first
random-access, analog robotic  DJ system. It's made up
of a computer and three turntables that can mix,
scratch, cut, and beat-juggle like a human disc
jockey. 
  It's a new means of composition and competition,
said Chris Csikszentmihalyi (pronounced
chick-sent-me-hi), an electronic arts professor at
RPI. What's really been fun is coming across really
strange sounds that you're not expecting to and
deciding that
  it's not really a negative, but a positive. 

 The machine is hardly musical or expressive. It
doesn't have a collection of old records it likes to
scratch up. But it can spin platters up to 800
revolutions per minute, compared to 45 RPMs by a human
hand. 

  To create the new mixes, 80 breakdance songs were
pressed onto each record. The location of each musical
element -- such as a  particular measure, beat or
audio sample -- is indexed on the computer.
Programmers mix tracks by dragging-and-dropping  each
element into a timeline on the computer, then an
analog motor spins the platter at the programmed speed
and direction. 

The computer controls the manipulation of the
tracks, but the motion is analog. The platter moves as
if a human hand were guiding it, but with superior
technical precision. 

 Yet it's the human quality that counts in the
artistic process, said one DJ. What separates
different DJs from each other is how they choose
records to mix together, how they mix them, and the
kind of
  tricks they do when they mix them,
said Paolo, a DJ who has played jungle and hip-hop
clubs in Washington D.C. and New York. 

 A computer is not going to know how to do that. It's
missing the inspiration, Paolo said. There's only so
much you can program. Would he jam to the mixed beats
of DJ I, Robot?  That wouldn't interest me at all,
Paolo said. That's not the point. There's a certain
amount of personal expression going on when you mix
records. That's what you're there to see or hear. 

 DJ Qmaxx420 had a different reaction. 
 Bring it on, man! I think it's a great idea, said
Qmaxx420, a professional DJ who has played clubs in
New York, Germany, London and Tokyo. I think that can
be fun and entertaining. 

 It was inevitable that this was going to happen
anyway, he said. This is the future. 

  Qmaxx420 said that DJ I, Robot might have some
unexpected benefits. Some DJs don't like to spin first
or last at clubs, so DJ I, Robot might be a good
opening DJ. Also, because the machine has no emotions,
it would never feel like it's selling out. Maybe
 record companies could use it to promote new songs,
he said. 

  Csikszentmihalyi admits the machine has its
limitations.  It doesn't have taste and it doesn't
have a sense of music, he said. There's no algorithm
for funk. We're faking the funk. 

 Nevertheless, Csikszentmihalyi hopes DJ I, Robot will
be able to outperform any human DJ in three or four
years. So far, the machine has battled several DJs and
has a losing record. It's kind of a remake on the
John Henry competition, Csikszentmihalyi said.
That's why we've been calling it the DJ killer app. 

 The system has already received international
attention. DJ I, Robot was a finalist in the Berlin
Transmediale, an international  juried competition for
software art, and it's performed in a Berlin
nightclub, at a street party in Boston and a warehouse
party in
Brooklyn. The machine will tour Europe this summer. 


http://www.dj-i-robot.com

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Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Dan Sicko
I didn't think they *completely* overdid it ... and it certainly 
didn't ruin the festival.


The swirling psychedelic Ford logos were a bit silly though.  The 
Bacardi video loop on the Underground stage was stomach-turning as 
well ...


-d

At 2:04 PM + 5/29/2001, Jayson B. wrote:
So what did you guys think?  did the Ford over do it?  Was it super 
commercialized to the point where it ruined the phatty underground 
vibe?




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Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Zak-a -licious!!
Speaking of Folgers...could someone get Starbucks on as a Corporate Sponsor 
next year (especially is there is bad weather) with 2 or 3 coffee/tea 
booths?


Git on it Carol


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Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:54:43 -0500


Maybe it'll be fueled by a Bacardi-powered mini-saga of commercials like 
Folger's did some years back on TV.


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Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Jayson B.



Git on it Carol




next year if she books oakenfold  I swear  Its going to be a fullscale 
protest from the begining.

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[313] fcc issues smackdown on rap lyrics

2001-05-29 Thread kharris
KBOO is a great radio station in portland..they just got a $7,000 fine for 
broadcasting the lyrics below...in case you don't get it the lyrics are a 
_protest_ to all the male posturing etc. that goes on in hiphop/rap circles 
(but is by no means limited to this genre) and yet instead of choosing one of 
the more openly misogynistic songs they chose a feminist criticism of them as 
someone to silence
-k

as a side note bell hooks has a nice essay on how it's been the hiphop/rap 
artists who have been singled out for this behavior when it's really behavior 
that's endemic..



Original Message Follows
From:
http://www.wweek.com/flatfiles/News12601693.html#rogue

[Full FCC complaint also reproduced at URL above.]

Radio Station:   KBOO-FM, Portland, Oregon
Date/Time Broadcast:October 20, 1999, on the Soundbox, between 7:00 p.m.
and 9:00 p.m.
Material Broadcast:  Your Revolution

(Various female voices)

Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
Will not happen between these thighs
Will not happen between these thighs
The real revolution ain't about bootie size
The Versaces you buys
Or the Lexus you drives
And though we've lost Biggie Smalls
Maybe your notorious revolution
Will never allow you to lace no lyrical douche in my bush
Your revolution will not be you killing me softly with fujees
Your revolution ain't gonna knock me up without no ring
And  produce little future M.C.'s
Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
Your revolution will not find me in the back seat of a jeep
With L.L. hard as hell, you know
Doing it and doing and doing it well, you know
Doing it and doing it and doing it well
Your revolution will not be you smacking it up, flipping it or rubbing it
down
Nor will it take you downtown, or humping around
Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
Your revolution will not have me singing
Ain't no nigger like the one I got
Your revolution will not be you sending me for no drip drip V.D. shot
Your revolution will not involve me or feeling your nature rise
Or having you fantasize
Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
No no not between these thighs
Uh-uh
My Jamaican brother
Your revolution will not make you feel boombastic, and really fantastic
And have you groping in the dark for that rubber wrapped in plastic
Uh-uh
You will not be touching your lips to my triple dip of
French vanilla, butter pecan, chocolate deluxe
Or having Akinyele's dream, um hum
A six foot blow job machine, um hum
You wanna subjugate your Queen, uh-huh
Think I'm gonna put it in my mouth just because you
Made a few bucks,
Please brother please
Your revolution will not be me tossing my weave
And making me believe I'm some caviar eating ghetto
Mafia clown
Or me giving up my behind
Just so I can get signed
And maybe have somebody else write my rhymes
I'm Sarah Jones
Not Foxy Brown
You know I'm Sarah Jones
Not Foxy Brown
Your revolution makes me wonder
Where could we go
If we could drop the empty pursuit of props and the ego
We'd revolt back to our roots
Use a little common sense on a quest to make love
De la soul, no pretense, but
Your revolution will not be you flexing your little sex and status
To express what you feel
Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
Will not happen between these thighs
Will not be you shaking
And me, [sigh] faking between these thighs
Because the real revolution
That's right, I said the real revolution
You know, I'm talking about the revolution
When it comes,
It's gonna be real
It's gonna be real
It's gonna be real
When it finally comes
It's gonna be real



DJ Vadim feat. Sarah Jones Your Revolution Ninjatune records 2000

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[313] boo williams, laurent, jak, etc.

2001-05-29 Thread Samuel Hobbs
1)   i just gotta say that i think that the best laugh
i had all of demf was seeing boo williams getting
freak-nasty while dancing with some girl during glenn
underground's set.  
2)   laurent was absolutely amazing.  i was really
happy to see him get some extra time and give that
shoutout to carl.
3)   jak was absolutely the most surreal experience i
have ever had at a party.  richie kept banging till
8:30.  he had total control of the room.  he
controlled the mood with music, lights, fog.  the
sound was so loud that my girlfriend who left the
party early said she could hear the party on the 11th
floor of the ramada hotel (where we stayed).   how
long has it been since richie has performed as
plastikman?  although i can't confirm this, i got the
feeling that all those cd's he was playing was stuff
of his album that's coming out this summer.
4)   i had a complete blast the whole weekend!  i just
gotta say that back stage at the focus mainstage
seemed really disorganized.  also...was it just me or
did the sound system seem to crap out monday

-sam

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[313] boo williams, laurent, jak, etc.

2001-05-29 Thread Samuel Hobbs
1)   i just gotta say that i think that the best laugh
i had all of demf was seeing boo williams getting
freak-nasty while dancing with some girl during glenn
underground's set.  
2)   laurent was absolutely amazing.  i was really
happy to see him get some extra time and give that
shoutout to carl.
3)   jak was absolutely the most surreal experience i
have ever had at a party.  richie kept banging till
8:30.  he had total control of the room.  he
controlled the mood with music, lights, fog.  the
sound was so loud that my girlfriend who left the
party early said she could hear the party on the 11th
floor of the ramada hotel (where we stayed).   how
long has it been since richie has performed as
plastikman?  although i can't confirm this, i got the
feeling that all those cd's he was playing was stuff
of his album that's coming out this summer.
4)   i had a complete blast the whole weekend!  i just
gotta say that back stage at the focus mainstage
seemed really disorganized.  also...was it just me or
did the sound system seem to crap out monday

-sam

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[313] Killabite

2001-05-29 Thread boompsie
Hey everyone - I need a lil help with something. I've been desperately
searching for Killabite 2 for quite awhile, and have never been able to find
it. I've searched Satellite, Planet X, Nu-Loop, even the Killabite site,
Record Time, Melodies, etc. with no luck. I have 1 and 3, but must get my
hands on 2. If someone is either willing to sell me a copy or direct me
somewhere they know of that has one, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank-you so much!
Cheers
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[313] my boring take on the fhttp://demf

2001-05-29 Thread Nathan John de Yonker
Hey all,

Interesting weekend.

John Acquaviva is quite a character. I thoroughly enjoyed his set except
for the parts where he played 5 horrible records in a row. Two things
though... I think Shades of Jae is probably the ONLY Detroit techno
classic that can seriously piss off a crowd. I swear it's the
anti-Spaztic. He also totally amazed me with that Plus 8-y track with the
waterfall sample that morphed into synth. Can anyone ID that? Not only
was it wicked, but it summoned the heaviest rain of Sunday. :

Inner City was marvelous. I was thinking they'd be way too deep for people
who didn't know where they were coming from. They had it all though.
Presence, crowd involvement, and those catchy, wicked, and sometimes
deliciously cheezy songs. Everytime I hear big fun and good life I sort of
regret my musical upbringing. My sister owned all the inner city stuff of
cassette, and I wonder what I'd be like now if I had appreciated Inner
City, Eazy-E, and New Order, instead of listening to all of that corporate
rock garbage in the late 80's early 90's.. but hey, I was just a kid.

Juan didn't disappoint one bit either. With him staring down one of the
more evil red/brown/black skies I've ever seen, he mixed well, made a
mockery out of No UFO's, and got me dancing the hardest I did all weekend.

I was disappointed with the festival in general, not because of Carol
Marvin or Ford, but for wholly personal reasons I guess. I maybe got to
spend 12 hours total at the festival, and didn't have the energy for
afterparties. Last year, it seemed like a gigantic techno family, and this
year, I barely saw any 313'ers I knew, and didn't get to meet any new
ones. I think I was just always in the wrong place at the wrong time. Poor
me, but I wanted it to be a sort of techno send-off before I move out of
metro-Detroit for good in August...  you can't always get what you want.

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RE: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Jeremy Meadows
I didn't know they were given free focuses, what the hell is that?  I
thought that the deal honoring them on Monday was questionable, but free
cars?  It was nice to find out that all it takes for city counsel and other
city officials (archer) to support the music and those who love it (their
constituents) is a hefty 84 million in revenues.  Ford was not too invasive
nor were any of the other sponsors.  I actually expected worse.  Highlights
for me were Chocolate, Mr. Gianelli's live set, Magda's set at Jak, RICHIE'S
set at Jak, Laurent Garnier, and Random Noise Generation.
Jeremy
-Original Message-
From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:04 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

So what did you guys think?  did the Ford over do it?  Was it super
commercialized to the point where it ruined the phatty underground vibe?



What i REALLY want to hear, is what you guys thought of our dearly beloved
innovators  getting Ford Focuses at Cpop on friday night.  Is this a
sellout move in their part?  or do they deserve the increase in success
they've been recieving since last year?




Personally?



I was very impressed by how low key ford actually.  Yeah, they had two
focuses at the front of the festival.  But there weren't any Huge Focus
signs all over, there weren't people handing out buy a focus flyers, there
wasn't anything like that.  Maybe its just me, but i just think someone at
ford at the very least has a vague idea of what this culture is about.
Sometimes Corporations support things because they Believe in them, and i
think that maybe this was the Case this year.



Unless of course they used Laurent's Fantastic set as a subliminal message
to allow us to be fed more corporate invasions for next year.


but that's just the conspiracy theorist in me.
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[313] jak

2001-05-29 Thread rstiegel


In response tot he inquiry about jak, it was insane! I was itting on the 
speaker resting int the middle of the relentless 6+ hour set and I felt 
something hard hit my hand and I realized the ceiling was crumbling because 
the bass was so loud.


The next day people were asking Rich how the party went and he described it 
as an amazing experience for him.


-Rachael


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Re: [313] Carl Craig re-releases

2001-05-29 Thread Mike Taylor

Landcruising was reissued last fall on Blanco y Negro.



From: Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ville Hyvönen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Carl Craig re-releases
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:47:32 +0300 (EEST)

Ville Hyvönen wrote on Sun, 27 May 2001 about following:

 I just saw Craig´s ´At Les´and ´Landcruising´ LP on somebody´s chart at
 twoplayer.co.uk. Labels were Talkin´ Loud (At Les) and Blanco Y Negro. 
Are
 these official releases or is it some sneaky promo bizniz? 
Whatwhatwhaat??


dunno about 'at les' but Landcruising was released on Blanco Y Negro
originally (some years ago). At least it's the only label i've seen
copies of it.

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[313] no UFO's

2001-05-29 Thread Sean Deason
did anyone else get the impression Juan was laughing in the face of Ford
with what he did to No UFO's during his set last night? or do you think it
was really just technical difficulties? odd that it was just during *that*
track that the tables would've just *happened* to crap out. good one Juan!
:^)

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Re: [313] no UFO's

2001-05-29 Thread d . pinter
No I think that was the 'Firestone' mix.  Stayed through the hail but didn't 
wait around for the frogs or locusts.

-dave

 
Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 did anyone else get the impression Juan was laughing in the face of Ford
with what he did to No UFO's during his set last night? or do you think it
was really just technical difficulties? odd that it was just during *that*
track that the tables would've just *happened* to crap out. good one Juan!
:^)

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Re: [313] and God said unto Carol Marvin

2001-05-29 Thread Mike Taylor

and more trashy broads than you could shake a stick at!


From: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] and God said unto Carol Marvin
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:20:03 -0400 (EDT)

Let there be pea-sized hail



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Re: [313] fcc issues smackdown on rap lyrics

2001-05-29 Thread DJ DMT
Ha funny you mention this
(and crazy if you wrote all the lines down ;-)

But clearly  this is a woman that didn't have sex for a longtime ;-0
sarah jones that is

I heard  the revolution will not be televised on VPRO radio in 1998 (still
have it on tape lying around !-)
It was told by a london 'heroin'  junk (could be sarah jones?) if I
rememeber correctly

Anyway The Vadim track starts with the piece bout the 'proto' rapper who
wrote the revolution will not be televised
forgot his name :( gill scot harris of something, maybe a male ?

But still fine lyrics

Dj DMT
n.p. farleybmx at deephousepage.com
- Original Message -
From: kharris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:12 PM
Subject: [313] fcc issues smackdown on rap lyrics


 KBOO is a great radio station in portland..they just got a $7,000 fine for
 broadcasting the lyrics below...in case you don't get it the lyrics are a
 _protest_ to all the male posturing etc. that goes on in hiphop/rap
circles
 (but is by no means limited to this genre) and yet instead of choosing one
of
 the more openly misogynistic songs they chose a feminist criticism of them
as
 someone to silence
 -k

 as a side note bell hooks has a nice essay on how it's been the hiphop/rap
 artists who have been singled out for this behavior when it's really
behavior
 that's endemic..



 Original Message Follows
 From:
 http://www.wweek.com/flatfiles/News12601693.html#rogue

 [Full FCC complaint also reproduced at URL above.]

 Radio Station:   KBOO-FM, Portland, Oregon
 Date/Time Broadcast:October 20, 1999, on the Soundbox, between 7:00 p.m.
 and 9:00 p.m.
 Material Broadcast:  Your Revolution

 (Various female voices)

 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Will not happen between these thighs
 Will not happen between these thighs
 The real revolution ain't about bootie size
 The Versaces you buys
 Or the Lexus you drives
 And though we've lost Biggie Smalls
 Maybe your notorious revolution
 Will never allow you to lace no lyrical douche in my bush
 Your revolution will not be you killing me softly with fujees
 Your revolution ain't gonna knock me up without no ring
 And  produce little future M.C.'s
 Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not find me in the back seat of a jeep
 With L.L. hard as hell, you know
 Doing it and doing and doing it well, you know
 Doing it and doing it and doing it well
 Your revolution will not be you smacking it up, flipping it or rubbing it
 down
 Nor will it take you downtown, or humping around
 Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not have me singing
 Ain't no nigger like the one I got
 Your revolution will not be you sending me for no drip drip V.D. shot
 Your revolution will not involve me or feeling your nature rise
 Or having you fantasize
 Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
 No no not between these thighs
 Uh-uh
 My Jamaican brother
 Your revolution will not make you feel boombastic, and really fantastic
 And have you groping in the dark for that rubber wrapped in plastic
 Uh-uh
 You will not be touching your lips to my triple dip of
 French vanilla, butter pecan, chocolate deluxe
 Or having Akinyele's dream, um hum
 A six foot blow job machine, um hum
 You wanna subjugate your Queen, uh-huh
 Think I'm gonna put it in my mouth just because you
 Made a few bucks,
 Please brother please
 Your revolution will not be me tossing my weave
 And making me believe I'm some caviar eating ghetto
 Mafia clown
 Or me giving up my behind
 Just so I can get signed
 And maybe have somebody else write my rhymes
 I'm Sarah Jones
 Not Foxy Brown
 You know I'm Sarah Jones
 Not Foxy Brown
 Your revolution makes me wonder
 Where could we go
 If we could drop the empty pursuit of props and the ego
 We'd revolt back to our roots
 Use a little common sense on a quest to make love
 De la soul, no pretense, but
 Your revolution will not be you flexing your little sex and status
 To express what you feel
 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Will not happen between these thighs
 Will not be you shaking
 And me, [sigh] faking between these thighs
 Because the real revolution
 That's right, I said the real revolution
 You know, I'm talking about the revolution
 When it comes,
 It's gonna be real
 It's gonna be real
 It's gonna be real
 When it finally comes
 It's gonna be real



 DJ Vadim feat. Sarah Jones Your Revolution Ninjatune records 2000

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Re: [313] boo williams, laurent, jak, etc.

2001-05-29 Thread Michael Kim


i gotta agree that dancing next to Boo Williams was pretty funny...

anybody know who played on the Motor stage right before the hail started 
coming down?  it was a chi-house set, great mixing, had the crowd jumping 
like crazy


Mike


From: Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] boo williams, laurent, jak, etc.
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:38:51 -0700 (PDT)

1)   i just gotta say that i think that the best laugh
i had all of demf was seeing boo williams getting
freak-nasty while dancing with some girl during glenn
underground's set.
2)   laurent was absolutely amazing.  i was really
happy to see him get some extra time and give that
shoutout to carl.
3)   jak was absolutely the most surreal experience i
have ever had at a party.  richie kept banging till
8:30.  he had total control of the room.  he
controlled the mood with music, lights, fog.  the
sound was so loud that my girlfriend who left the
party early said she could hear the party on the 11th
floor of the ramada hotel (where we stayed).   how
long has it been since richie has performed as
plastikman?  although i can't confirm this, i got the
feeling that all those cd's he was playing was stuff
of his album that's coming out this summer.
4)   i had a complete blast the whole weekend!  i just
gotta say that back stage at the focus mainstage
seemed really disorganized.  also...was it just me or
did the sound system seem to crap out monday

-sam

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Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Paul
Mabye it's just me, but I think they did.  Renaming the festival is 
probably the largest thing (buying the main stage wasn't enough?),but then 
the swirling ford logos, to the focus racer dude racing down the endless 
tunnel video effect, to the constant focus focus focus every single 
direction you turn, to the video projections on the side buildings... I 
thought it all very un-original and tacky.  Plus, the video imagery was 
bland and slow, and seemed to loop every 5 minutes, the same feed for all 
three days, with no reaction to the music or crowd whatsoever (downstairs 
excluded).


Do I need to go so far as to point out the monopoly on webcasts/archives as 
well?


Not to be totally negative, it wasn't *that* bad, I just thought they went 
a bit far.  Aside from that, I thought the demf was incredible and i'm 
very envious of you people who got into jak (The line was almost all around 
the building at quarter-after-12).


sleep now,
-j


At 01:58 PM 5/29/2001, Dan Sicko wrote:
I didn't think they *completely* overdid it ... and it certainly didn't 
ruin the festival.


The swirling psychedelic Ford logos were a bit silly though.  The Bacardi 
video loop on the Underground stage was stomach-turning as well ...


-d

At 2:04 PM + 5/29/2001, Jayson B. wrote:
So what did you guys think?  did the Ford over do it?  Was it super 
commercialized to the point where it ruined the phatty underground vibe?








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[313] DEMF highlights

2001-05-29 Thread Matthew Perkins
Everyone's favourite after-party seems to have been
Jak put on by that guy with glasses not from Detroit.
Did no-one else make it to the SOund SIgnature party?
Damn, you missed out. Theo Parrish selling his as yet
unreleased sound signature records, Larry Heard
playing unreleased old chicago stuff, and KDJ laying
down a righteous and awesomely mixed disco set from
hell . . . thats what I came to Detroit for!

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Re: [313] Evil corporate at the DEMF

2001-05-29 Thread Jayson B.

i'm
very envious of you people who got into jak (The line was almost all around
the building at quarter-after-12).




I understand richie's love of small venues, but i honestly thought this 
wasn't the weekend to do it.  I mean, there were just so many out of towners 
who i'm sure would've LOVED to have gone to a richie event in detroit, but 
using the labrynth was just too small (although i'd love to go to one of his 
events there on another weekend).




Oh well.
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Re: [313] Dopplereffekt

2001-05-29 Thread Alex . Lugo
Sorry you missed it. I would like to thank everone who came by. See you
next year!

Alex
Ultradyne


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Date: 05/28/2001 02:11:51 PM
Subject:[313] Dopplereffekt

Anyone check out the Dopplereffekt afterparty?  I am so pissed that I
missed
it. How was it?
]

ken
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[313] Sound Signature Party????????

2001-05-29 Thread Javier Drada

I want details..

j.d.

http://www.undergroundcommittee.com

504.837.4783 tel
504.553.5628 tel
504.553.5627 fax

Keepin' it real, keepin' it UNDERGROUND..Underground Committee.com

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Re: [313] my boring take on the fhttp://demf

2001-05-29 Thread Christian Bloch
it's a one-sided bootleg remix of lil' louis why d'ya fall called white
falls... i found it in berlin a couple of months ago - so it shouldn't be that
hard to track down

/christian bloch

Nathan John de Yonker wrote:

  He also totally amazed me with that Plus 8-y track with the
 waterfall sample that morphed into synth. Can anyone ID that? Not only
 was it wicked, but it summoned the heaviest rain of Sunday. :


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Re: [313] my boring take on the fhttp://demf

2001-05-29 Thread DJ DMT
As far as I know it's from 'somewhere in the netherlands' ;-)

also catch that promo 'also' sampling Yello bostich
it's got 'immaculate music' incrypted ;-)
it's a little bit uptempo

Dj DMT
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From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [313] my boring take on the fhttp://demf


 it's a one-sided bootleg remix of lil' louis why d'ya fall called white
 falls... i found it in berlin a couple of months ago - so it shouldn't be
that
 hard to track down

 /christian bloch

 Nathan John de Yonker wrote:

   He also totally amazed me with that Plus 8-y track with the
  waterfall sample that morphed into synth. Can anyone ID that? Not only
  was it wicked, but it summoned the heaviest rain of Sunday. :


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RE: [313] fcc issues smackdown on rap lyrics

2001-05-29 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
Gill Scott Heron.

-Original Message-
From: DJ DMT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:24 PM
To: kharris; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] fcc issues smackdown on rap lyrics


Ha funny you mention this
(and crazy if you wrote all the lines down ;-)

But clearly  this is a woman that didn't have sex for a longtime ;-0
sarah jones that is

I heard  the revolution will not be televised on VPRO radio in 1998 (still
have it on tape lying around !-)
It was told by a london 'heroin'  junk (could be sarah jones?) if I
rememeber correctly

Anyway The Vadim track starts with the piece bout the 'proto' rapper who
wrote the revolution will not be televised
forgot his name :( gill scot harris of something, maybe a male ?

But still fine lyrics

Dj DMT
n.p. farleybmx at deephousepage.com
- Original Message -
From: kharris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:12 PM
Subject: [313] fcc issues smackdown on rap lyrics


 KBOO is a great radio station in portland..they just got a $7,000 fine for
 broadcasting the lyrics below...in case you don't get it the lyrics are a
 _protest_ to all the male posturing etc. that goes on in hiphop/rap
circles
 (but is by no means limited to this genre) and yet instead of choosing one
of
 the more openly misogynistic songs they chose a feminist criticism of them
as
 someone to silence
 -k

 as a side note bell hooks has a nice essay on how it's been the hiphop/rap
 artists who have been singled out for this behavior when it's really
behavior
 that's endemic..



 Original Message Follows
 From:
 http://www.wweek.com/flatfiles/News12601693.html#rogue

 [Full FCC complaint also reproduced at URL above.]

 Radio Station:   KBOO-FM, Portland, Oregon
 Date/Time Broadcast:October 20, 1999, on the Soundbox, between 7:00 p.m.
 and 9:00 p.m.
 Material Broadcast:  Your Revolution

 (Various female voices)

 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Will not happen between these thighs
 Will not happen between these thighs
 The real revolution ain't about bootie size
 The Versaces you buys
 Or the Lexus you drives
 And though we've lost Biggie Smalls
 Maybe your notorious revolution
 Will never allow you to lace no lyrical douche in my bush
 Your revolution will not be you killing me softly with fujees
 Your revolution ain't gonna knock me up without no ring
 And  produce little future M.C.'s
 Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not find me in the back seat of a jeep
 With L.L. hard as hell, you know
 Doing it and doing and doing it well, you know
 Doing it and doing it and doing it well
 Your revolution will not be you smacking it up, flipping it or rubbing it
 down
 Nor will it take you downtown, or humping around
 Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Your revolution will not have me singing
 Ain't no nigger like the one I got
 Your revolution will not be you sending me for no drip drip V.D. shot
 Your revolution will not involve me or feeling your nature rise
 Or having you fantasize
 Because that revolution will not happen between these thighs
 No no not between these thighs
 Uh-uh
 My Jamaican brother
 Your revolution will not make you feel boombastic, and really fantastic
 And have you groping in the dark for that rubber wrapped in plastic
 Uh-uh
 You will not be touching your lips to my triple dip of
 French vanilla, butter pecan, chocolate deluxe
 Or having Akinyele's dream, um hum
 A six foot blow job machine, um hum
 You wanna subjugate your Queen, uh-huh
 Think I'm gonna put it in my mouth just because you
 Made a few bucks,
 Please brother please
 Your revolution will not be me tossing my weave
 And making me believe I'm some caviar eating ghetto
 Mafia clown
 Or me giving up my behind
 Just so I can get signed
 And maybe have somebody else write my rhymes
 I'm Sarah Jones
 Not Foxy Brown
 You know I'm Sarah Jones
 Not Foxy Brown
 Your revolution makes me wonder
 Where could we go
 If we could drop the empty pursuit of props and the ego
 We'd revolt back to our roots
 Use a little common sense on a quest to make love
 De la soul, no pretense, but
 Your revolution will not be you flexing your little sex and status
 To express what you feel
 Your revolution will not happen between these thighs
 Will not happen between these thighs
 Will not be you shaking
 And me, [sigh] faking between these thighs
 Because the real revolution
 That's right, I said the real revolution
 You know, I'm talking about the revolution
 When it comes,
 It's gonna be real
 It's gonna be real
 It's gonna be real
 When it finally comes
 It's gonna be real



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Re: [313] DEMF highlights

2001-05-29 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
i was there, otto was there, i think wibo was there.  kent was there too.

hot as hell.

literally and figuratively.

(i wished i was still there to hear theo drop MARTIN'S CIRCUSdamn.)






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[313] audio

2001-05-29 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
so the ford stage was the only stage that was broadcast over the web?
does anyone know whether the other stuff was archived even?

i'm currently sorting out my thoughts on this year's event, and will post
something longish later.  haven't really gone to sleep since the
hailstorm, as i hit the road back to st. louis right after.

shouts out to the various 313ers i was finally able to put a face to.

(i could've taken out that drunk aryanHONEST!)

peace
lks






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[313] betoni. #18

2001-05-29 Thread Janne Puurunen
betoni. #18 Miksi #7 
mixed by Kalle Karvanen - Electro

http://www.adapteri.com/betoni

Playlist:
Anthony Rother - Destroy Him My Robots (Psi49Net)
Mr Velcro Fastener - This Is It (i220 Music)
Dynamik Bass System - Frequencies (International Deejay Gigolos)
Sven Väth - Schubdüse (Anthonu Rother Mix) (Virgin)
Alden Tyrell - Digger (Clone/C5)
Dexter - Raad Het Woord (Klakson Records)
Dexter - Echo Park (Klakson Records)
Tero - Highscore (Rikos Records) 




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[313] MY DEMF highlights

2001-05-29 Thread Jess Staller
My highlights of the DEMF included:
1)Laurent Garnier's set - incredible.  I loved the shout out to Carl Craig.
Meeting Laurent in the lobby of the hotel on Monday morning, he is a cool 
guy.  
2)Watching De La Soul perform.  
3)Going to One-X and meeting a fellow 313'er, My line was Um, I don't want 
to sound like a computer geek, but are you on the 313 list
:)
Dancing my ass off to Ben Simms, then to Marco Carola.  
4) Kelli Hand, Jazzanova, John Acquiviva, Titonton, Inner City, Kit 
Clayton's sets.

I thought Ford did go a bit out with the Two Techno-edition Focuses, but 
hey, what did we expect with corporate sponsorship.
Overall I had a good time.

~Jess
Pittsburgh, PA




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[313] DEMF - NYC Perspective

2001-05-29 Thread Grammenos, Peter

(apologies in advance , not entirely 313)

First off Detroit is as real as it gets. DEMF was cool, but the after
parties is where it was at! Having Dan Bell show up at 5:30am at the seventh
city party to spin some records for a crowd of 40 is etched in my head
forever. Being able to go over to eastern market and go INSIDE the studios
of Derrick May will always be remembered, and most notably seeing Kevin
Saunderson spin at the KMS encore party had to be one of the best clubbing
experiences of my entire life !! The system was so loud the brick was
shaking off onto our heads :

Only problem now is I have my g-friend asking me to take her to more parties
like that ...

Thanks for a great time Detroit! 

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Re: [313] DEMF highlights

2001-05-29 Thread M. Todd Smith
I was at the Sound Signature party.  Great stuff too bad about the bouncy
system though KDJ sure laid it down tight!  I know Theo was supposed to play
but I didn't see him, I left after KDJ's set and at that point there had
been only 3 DJ's (Ky ace (sp?), ??? and KDJ)  anyone know who the second DJ
was with the Michigan cap on?

Cheers
todd
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 Everyone's favourite after-party seems to have been
 Jak put on by that guy with glasses not from Detroit.
 Did no-one else make it to the SOund SIgnature party?
 Damn, you missed out. Theo Parrish selling his as yet
 unreleased sound signature records, Larry Heard
 playing unreleased old chicago stuff, and KDJ laying
 down a righteous and awesomely mixed disco set from
 hell . . . thats what I came to Detroit for!

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[313] Plastikman

2001-05-29 Thread Derek Birsul

Richie tore it up Sunday night. Unfortunitely we had to leave DEMF at 9:30 to 
get in line, but it was well worth it. I will only wait three hours in line and 
pay $20 to see a select group of DJ's, and Richie is one. He got on between 2 
and 3AM and bumped the crowd all night (morning). They were only suppose to let 
in 1000 people, did anyone in line not get in? The sound was unbelievable. The 
setup was kick ass, simple but effective. The setting was in a club that is 
goth every other night of the week. Very dark. One complaint though, the bass 
was beyond deafening. Every *boom* made your ears hurt. Many others there 
agreed that it could of been turned down a notch and still been effective. 
Amazing show none-the-less, he was relentless. Very different from last year at 
DEMF, where he tried to mess with everyone's head. Well I'm done rambling. If 
you saw him, would you please let me know what you thought. Thanks.
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Re: [313] jak

2001-05-29 Thread Deliverator
Hello all,

This was the best party i've been to in years!  I met a fellow 313 member on
the people mover, which made me happy, and the night only got better-
despite everyone bum rushing the doorI left about 6:30 am, and you could
literally still hear the party 5 blocks away!

He threw down some nice funky stuff, and that twisted version of nitzer ebb
was amazing.  Not to mention: I called you- but you weren't there and
Don't worry, I won't hurt you...  The price loop just about made me go
completely ballistic.

Other than Jak:

Kenny Larkin's set was immaculate.  Kit Clayton impressed me way more than
Autechre.  John Acquaviva dropping that track (what is it) which made
the sun come out :-).  Seeing Laurent do 'Acid Eiffel' live.  D. Wynn's set
(except for the damn m.c.)  Regrettably I missed Fred Giannelli's
set.sigh...

Overall a great festival, but I do wonder whether or not it can retain its'
integrity next year.

jim

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 In response tot he inquiry about jak, it was insane! I was itting on the
 speaker resting int the middle of the relentless 6+ hour set and I felt
 something hard hit my hand and I realized the ceiling was crumbling
because
 the bass was so loud.

 The next day people were asking Rich how the party went and he described
it
 as an amazing experience for him.

 -Rachael


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RE: [313] jak

2001-05-29 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
Kenny Larkin's set was immaculate.  Kit Clayton impressed me way more than
Autechre.  John Acquaviva dropping that track (what is it) which made
the sun come out :-).  Seeing Laurent do 'Acid Eiffel' live.  D. Wynn's set
(except for the damn m.c.)  Regrettably I missed Fred Giannelli's
set.sigh...

the sun came out during that electric avenue remix... but it came out a
couple other times too...

still reeling from exhaustion...
h

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Re: [313] jak

2001-05-29 Thread Deliverator
Not that one, the one with the funky organ line and the female vocal mixed
in from another record.  Though Electric avenue was great to hear :-)

jim
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 Kenny Larkin's set was immaculate.  Kit Clayton impressed me way more than
 Autechre.  John Acquaviva dropping that track (what is it) which made
 the sun come out :-).  Seeing Laurent do 'Acid Eiffel' live.  D. Wynn's
set
 (except for the damn m.c.)  Regrettably I missed Fred Giannelli's
 set.sigh...
 
 the sun came out during that electric avenue remix... but it came out a
 couple other times too...

 still reeling from exhaustion...
 h

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[313] evil corporations

2001-05-29 Thread kenneth taylor
Honestly, I found Bacardi to be the most invasive of the corp. sponsors. 
Those full adds on the underground stage were horrible  (as was the punch in 
the media tent!) Surprisingly, Ford was rather well-behaved (unlike the 
projectile vomiting kids near the underground stage.) Really, Ford's set up 
didn't seem too bad and there weren't any Ford employees onstage making 
their presence known, which was nice.


My biggest peeve was the projections of half-naked women.  For someone like 
Assault, I can understand (not accept or condone, but understand) but for 
Saul Williams?  WTF? Does consciousness raising hip-hop really warrant this 
crap? Contradictory is an understatement.


ken


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Re: Re: [313] jak

2001-05-29 Thread jdm
 Not that one, the one with the funky organ line and the female vocal mixed
 in from another record.  Though Electric avenue was great to hear :-)
 
 jim



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 Not that one, the one with the funky organ line and the female vocal mixed
 in from another record.  Though Electric avenue was great to hear :-)
 
 jim



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Re: [313] jak

2001-05-29 Thread steve teeri
That was the first time I ever had fear of setting
foot on a dance floor. People were wall to wall, and
it looked like some depiction of purgatory. The room
was painted black with a ceiling maybe three stories
tall. A strobe from the ceiling was pretty much the
only light, and he'd cut that off every so often
sending the whole place into darkness. When the bass
hit it blew your hair back. In the DJ booth he was
bathed in red light, with a Sisters of Mercy poster
behind him. One interesting moment was when a CD
started skipping creating a Kid606 effect, then
followed by the system emitting a horrible tone. The
crowd went nuts, while Richie looked a little less
than thrilled.

Steve


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Re: [313] evil corporations

2001-05-29 Thread Mxyzptlk
It was interesting to see those projections while Cox's substitute was 
dropping in a sample which repeated ...sister, put some clothes on that 
ass and respect yourself... Great irony.

jeff



My biggest peeve was the projections of half-naked women.  For someone 
like Assault, I can understand (not accept or condone, but understand) but 
for Saul Williams?  WTF? Does consciousness raising hip-hop really warrant 
this crap? Contradictory is an understatement.


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RE: [313] evil corporations

2001-05-29 Thread Joshua M. Hill
Amen.

My first thought when I saw the projected closeups of dancing breasts was of
beer commercials. My second thought was that perhaps more people in the
audience understand electronic music as a division from the popular media
conglomerates that would use such tactics for entertainment/advertising. But
maybe the audience (in general) doesn't recognize the distinction; perhaps a
state of mind produced by the MTV The Grind generation. That doesn't imply
at all that electronic music in Detroit (or the world for that matter)
should detach itself from any commercial investments. It just means that I
am surprised that such things would even be needed to spice up an already
enlightening and entertaining set, especially when they run counter to the
intention of the music itself.

I would much rather watch homeless people dance their asses off than see
people stare at candy coated projections of dancing mammories. When I see
grandparents getting down next to homeless people at the demf, words can't
describe my happiness. Seriously, that makes me dance a whole hell of a lot
more than 2 dimmensional scantily clad women.

Hope you all felt that.

cheers.

/j



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 -Original Message-
 From: kenneth taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:12 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] evil corporations


 Honestly, I found Bacardi to be the most invasive of the corp. sponsors.
 Those full adds on the underground stage were horrible  (as was
 the punch in
 the media tent!) Surprisingly, Ford was rather well-behaved (unlike the
 projectile vomiting kids near the underground stage.) Really,
 Ford's set up
 didn't seem too bad and there weren't any Ford employees onstage making
 their presence known, which was nice.

 My biggest peeve was the projections of half-naked women.  For
 someone like
 Assault, I can understand (not accept or condone, but understand) but for
 Saul Williams?  WTF? Does consciousness raising hip-hop really
 warrant this
 crap? Contradictory is an understatement.

 ken


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Re: [313] and God said unto Carol Marvin

2001-05-29 Thread atomly
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 and more trashy broads than you could shake a stick at!

It was like a rave, only it wasn't dark, so you had to look at them!

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Re: [313] evil corporations

2001-05-29 Thread Jake
that record is called player three

on 5/29/01 3:40 PM, Mxyzptlk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It was interesting to see those projections while Cox's substitute was
 dropping in a sample which repeated ...sister, put some clothes on that
 ass and respect yourself... Great irony.
 jeff
 
 
 
 My biggest peeve was the projections of half-naked women.  For someone
 like Assault, I can understand (not accept or condone, but understand) but
 for Saul Williams?  WTF? Does consciousness raising hip-hop really warrant
 this crap? Contradictory is an understatement.
 
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RE: [313] Move over HPDJ

2001-05-29 Thread alex
http://www.rpi.edu/web/Campus.News/may01/may_14/home2.html#10

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Subject: [313] Move over HPDJ


This was lifted from a BBS, so I don't have a link to
the original article:

DJ Robot Turns the Tables 
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Re: [313] no UFO's

2001-05-29 Thread Scotto
 did anyone else get the impression Juan was laughing in the face of Ford
 with what he did to No UFO's during his set last night? or do you think
it
 was really just technical difficulties? odd that it was just during
*that*
 track that the tables would've just *happened* to crap out. good one Juan!

through the eye glasses it looked like he was spinning the table by hand.
then they changed the table

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Re: [313] jak

2001-05-29 Thread Scotto
WOW!
what a party. the walls were shaking the cieling was falling down. that one
big strobe. all the plastikman tracks. and again I forgot may ear plug my
ears are still ringing with the music!

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Re: [313] and God said unto Carol Marvin

2001-05-29 Thread Scotto
was it me or was there more mean drunks there this year? they usually went
shirtless so you could see there tat's

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 and more trashy broads than you could shake a stick at!

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Re: [313] fcc issues smackdown on rap lyrics

2001-05-29 Thread Scotto
 Anyway The Vadim track starts with the piece bout the 'proto' rapper who
 wrote the revolution will not be televised
 forgot his name :( gill scot harris of something, maybe a male ?

gil scott-heron

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Re: [313] and God said unto Carol Marvin

2001-05-29 Thread atomly
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 was it me or was there more mean drunks there this year? they usually went
 shirtless so you could see there tat's

Yea, there will probably be riots, fires and sexual assaults next year
when Paul Oakenfold and Limp Bizkit tagteam on the mainstage.

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[313] wasn't Derrick Carter....

2001-05-29 Thread Michael Kim
the dj after Ayro's set on the Motor stage right before the hail came down.  
i thought it was Derrick Carter too, but my friend from Chicago said it 
wasn't.  anybody know who it was?  the set was tight as hell.


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[313] Gil Scott-Heron

2001-05-29 Thread kenneth taylor
For anyone interested, there's also a pretty cool indie band named Girl 
Scout Heroine.


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[313] test

2001-05-29 Thread Dharma Fowler

just seeing if my messages are going through
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Re: [313] and God said unto Carol Marvin

2001-05-29 Thread Mxyzptlk
Now THERE'S a marketing strategy for Carol Marvin : DEMF 2002 Smackdown 
(replete with ladder-matches, scantily clad wrestling molls, and hoarse, 
histrionic MCs) WWF stylee. Fun for all ages.
Toss in a truck pull and it should appeal to a much wider detroit party 
audience. DEMF wrestler-troll dolls for the raverkids.

jeff

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[Scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 was it me or was there more mean drunks there this year? they usually went
 shirtless so you could see there tat's

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when Paul Oakenfold and Limp Bizkit tagteam on the mainstage.

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Re: [313] Plastikman

2001-05-29 Thread Carlos L Hinojosa
turn down the bass... Now that's funny. I was pleasantly amused at the
breeze circulating through the room on account of intense vibrations
coming from the speakers. I wore earplugs. I learned my lesson at Saint
Andrews.


carlos

On Tue, 29 May 2001, Derek Birsul wrote:


 Richie tore it up Sunday night. Unfortunitely we had to leave DEMF at 9:30 to 
 get in line, but it was well worth it. I will only wait three hours in line 
 and pay $20 to see a select group of DJ's, and Richie is one. He got on 
 between 2 and 3AM and bumped the crowd all night (morning). They were only 
 suppose to let in 1000 people, did anyone in line not get in? The sound was 
 unbelievable. The setup was kick ass, simple but effective. The setting was 
 in a club that is goth every other night of the week. Very dark. One 
 complaint though, the bass was beyond deafening. Every *boom* made your ears 
 hurt. Many others there agreed that it could of been turned down a notch and 
 still been effective. Amazing show none-the-less, he was relentless. Very 
 different from last year at DEMF, where he tried to mess with everyone's 
 head. Well I'm done rambling. If you saw him, would you please let me know 
 what you thought. Thanks.
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