Re: [313] OT: I have one thing to say....
like i was just saying to MEK, i don't rate Aflleck in anything except the Kevin Smith movies...now THATS someone who should be working on superhero flicks...especially after his Green Arrow (was it?) comics... personally i don't reads much US comics anymore - i'm far more into the Japanese stuff: if you have any interest in comics you should try the Masamune Shirow works: Ghost in the Shell and Appleseed...don't be putt off by any animated adaptions you might have seen (although the film of GiTS is superb, its different to the original manga books) - the comics are A LOT deeper. on 4/5/02 8:53 pm, glyph1001 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, I think the Ben Affleck casting is interesting, actually. We'll just have to see if he's acrobatic enough. :-)I also heard that the 'Alias' chick (can't think of her name at the moment) is Elektra and its proven she can fight on camera so that's a good choice. But then again, casting a mega movie-star as a masked superhero is a no-no because what producer would pay mega-movie star money to only have the star's face covered half the time so I'm hoping that need doesn't get in the way of things. I'm personally looking towards a Spider-man X-men team up and perhaps a 'Justice League' live-action movie in the future. :-) In super-hero fever, g. Tim Maughan wrote: on 4/5/02 6:42 pm, glyph1001 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, Sean, did you see the new Star Wars preview along with the Hulk and directed by Ang Lee!?!?! Whooohoo!! That's gonna be bad-ass! it should be ggod, better than the Ban Affleck daredevil movie they're shooting now... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] back to the future
well i must say its an intersti`n argu,ent you have here. i also miss the old sounds of the past. but AFAIK even if u try very much you still have the notion of what happend inside you. i guess u use different recording and production devices. you make something else. things (like techno) has their own way of ivolving and to change. i still start jumping full of joy from tracks like it is what it is and old stuff may and craig did, like i enjoy seeing a movie from sergi eizenstein or fritz lang.but like many other stuff the music industy and techno had become something else. vision is one thing reality is another, but in this couple of years i see a come-back of the more old feeling stuff like delsin,emoticon and others which i really like. i feel u need to take the good in the old and add some new than u make the ultimate good. in a way we all miss the good old days i also put some of my old MoWax records and ask why dont they make music like they did? well if they were still doing the good old music i would never get to know techno. u need to understand techno had a vision of the future , but in many aspects that future is here. you cannot see the evolution of all elektronik music with out pioneers like atkins,may and others. the tourch is still alive AFAIK and lets hope it will never will be. so u do not need to get back to the future since (for good or for bad) the future is now kind regards Yair aint nothing like the past hombreEtziony. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] - Life of Strings....
i t ' s t o o b a d t h e r e a r e s o o ooo m a n y c a t s o u t t h e r e w h o don't k n o w. regards, lrh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 6:09 PM To: Phonopsia Cc: 313; Mark S. Krüx Subject: Re: [313] - Life of Strings Oh god - that's awful. Does it actually cut out and in like that or are those different versions of the remix? Which ever it's really terrible. Strictly for those who don't know... MEK Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org echno.net cc: Subject: Re: [313] - Life of Strings 05/04/02 09:37 AM - Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 9:44 AM Subject: [313] - Life of Strings LIFE OF STRINGS (Produced/Remixed: KARIZMA) LIFE OF STRINGS WHITE http://audio.satelliterecords.com/ram/93122.RAM U... Why!?!?!;-) Puzzled, Death of Strings is more like it, since they managed to suck all the life out of them. Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: Loops samples movie?
Any Ozy/N.Zealand list members heard of this? Curious http://www.loopsandsamples.co.nz/ Yes. They've been working on it for a hell of a long time, and I haven't seen many signs of progress in recent times, either in terms of the documentary itself or in keeping the website up to date. They did, however, secure a Government grant last year towards the costs of finishing it off... Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] man we are ALL geeks
At 12:51 PM 5/4/2002, you wrote: I would believe that alot of comic book/superhero fans are into Techno or may have played a role in the creation of Techno music because of the fantasy and romanticism of superheros and the pining for space travel and anything to do with Futurism. So in that sense, I'm not surprised. Actually I think its cool. :-) Man, that has GOT to be the geekiest possible responce anyone could have added to that thread ;) Thought I'm not one to talk, I have a load of sports cards and comic books in my basement not to mention may old interestes of star trek, douglas adams, and issiac asimov books. By the way, someone mentioned that michael keaton was the last to get the superhero thing right, I beg to differ. While he was a decent batman (thought i still think they should have gotten someone younger) he was a lousy Bruce Wayne. Part of what makes batman batman is his whole dual nature thing. Playboy Millionaire Pimp by day and dark mysterious detective by night. (see what I mean about being a geek?) Anyways this was my quarterly post to this list, so while i am at it i must mention that I WONT be at teh DEMF this year, as I realized today that I wont get back from greece till the 30th :( So rave one wihtout me. -christos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] OT: I have one thing to say....
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Tim Maughan wrote: on 4/5/02 6:42 pm, glyph1001 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, Sean, did you see the new Star Wars preview along with the Hulk and directed by Ang Lee!?!?! Whooohoo!! That's gonna be bad-ass! it should be ggod, better than the Ban Affleck daredevil movie they're shooting now... All I've got to say is that if Jennifer Garner is Elektra, my money is on Daredevil being dope. peace lks p.s. anyone else check out free comic book day? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] back to the future
i'm on my way to star clipper comics to take advantage of free comic book day (and also to pick up volume one of lone wolf and cub...was reminded to do so by lone wolf's appearance on samurai jack), banging IT IS WHAT IT IS from my minivan (i know i know...no minivan jokes). and i'm thinking that detroit techno is retro like the new transformers comic with the dope ass red star type graphics. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] jak party, sunday may 25
richie hawtin's my ice cream man!!! On Fri, 3 May 2002, jonathan morse wrote: if this is true it would only be fitting for him to start his set with eruption ;p On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 11:44 AM, Rob Theakston wrote: don't bet on it. rumor has it rich booked the sound system from Van Halen's Diver Down tour from '82. look for wall to wall stacks and maybe david lee roth as a roadie. -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:41 PM To: Bill Van Loo; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] jak party, sunday may 25 nice!, they just posted that today cuz I checked last night and it wasnt there. its going to be tough to decide between acquaviva at motor and hawtin atthe jak party. I'll go to jak if someone can assure me the sound system will be toned down a bit from the jack party last year and the control party from whenever that was (cant remember) my ears cant take another excessive party like that. -Joe fux www.emmrecords.com/teh_fux - Original Message - From: Bill Van Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: [313] jak party, sunday may 25 also: http://m-nus.com/calendar/ The technotourists are going to get tired from typing in all this afterparty biz pretty soonit's starting to get fast furious! bvl -- http://www.chromedecay.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Interesting wrinkle in the Eminem/Moby debacle
MTV has always used great music for incidental while completely ignoring it otherwise. I remember the first season of road rules being completely accompanied by Pell Mell. Or hearing My Bloody Valentine played underneith the VJ as they introduced Pearl Jam same-o same -old On Fri, 3 May 2002, sean deason wrote: I too am starting to think someone at MTV *is* in the Detroit Techno Closet?. In addition to hearing Carl's At Les used *numerous* times, various tracks from my Allegory Metaphor have been utilized on 2 epsiodes of The Real World (Chicago) and 3 episodes of Celebrity Undercover. I've also heard a Disco D track on the Real World this season. But nobody listens to techno. :^) I like Cyclones idea. I'm waiting for the new Eminem album to come out so I can sample the hell out of it. I wont get caught because nobody listens anyways. sean grand larceny deason Brian 'balistic' Prince wrote: Just caught a few minutes of Making the Video on MTV, featuring Eminem, hero to dim adolescent white boys everywhere. While the Real Slim Maybe explains his Moby dis, an interesting juxtaposition of ideologies occurs . . . the segment uses Carl Craig's At Les as filler music between clips. We go straight from C2's masterpiece to watching M2 lipsync don't nobody listen to techno while pretending to play a keyboard and do yoga. It struck me as a really odd choice of fill music, considering the show's usual diet of high-energy fromage. Coincidence? Intentional dig? Intentional placement by a closeted 313 fan? One wonders . . . Hope Carl got paid anyway. Apologies if someone already noticed this . . . I don't recall seeing it mentioned, but then I was on vacation for a bit. As an aside, I finished the illustration of the robot girl I was working on a while back: http://www.bprince.com/GallyFinal.jpg -- Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] OT: I have one thing to say....
One more thing. The character development of X-Men, I feel, was crucial to the story telling of the film because not everyone read comics and know what the heck these characters are all about aside from the fact that they're mutants. I liked X-Men and I believe the formula (which is making the movie to be just like the comic book and not adding new and sometimes awful elements to the characters plus utilizing lesser known actors) used and the consequential success of that formula revived the interest in making superhero films. Its the way all the previous superhero flicks should've been done, except Superman, that's like the bible of all superhero flicks. In fact, you can tell that for Spider-Man, they made the production team watch Superman movie on DVD and take notes (i.e. Peter Parker ripping apart his shirt, revealing the costume as he ran to change into Spidey). G. sean deason wrote: hell yeah!! I second the motion! Tobey (deer caught in the headlights) Maguire nailed it! Not since Michael Keaton has an actor *really* gotten into the psyche of a legendarysuperhero, but I was very impressed. I'm ready to plop down another 6 bucks to give it another spin. One thing that does bother me though. the new way he spins his webs is kinda gross. and where does the material for the webs come from? wouldnt he run out of it after a while? Maybe thats something they adapted from the Venom costume, but still it grosses me out :^) XMen was a big disappoinment (too much character development and by the time the action started the movie was over) but I love this movie! sean deason Kirsten Dunst in the rain is well worth the price of admission :^) sean glyph1001 wrote: Spider-Man. Go see it. It RAWKED! :-) g. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] back to the future
In my ongoing way of capitalising on the Eminem thing, I was thinking of alarm clocks with 'Wake Up - It's Techno!' on them. It would good if you could get it to play Purposemaker's Alarm too. You could give them away at the DEMF. Of course the alarm clocks would have to be super slick in design too. Of course if Techno were marketed that way, it might well kill it in a way mass indifference has not. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] back to the future
made by ford? :P -Joe fux www.emmrecords.com/teh_fux - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [313] back to the future In my ongoing way of capitalising on the Eminem thing, I was thinking of alarm clocks with 'Wake Up - It's Techno!' on them. It would good if you could get it to play Purposemaker's Alarm too. You could give them away at the DEMF. Of course the alarm clocks would have to be super slick in design too. Of course if Techno were marketed that way, it might well kill it in a way mass indifference has not. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] OT: I have one thing to say....
I missed the Hulk preview by like 6 seconds. I was thinking a Hulk movie couldn't be that great, but with Ang Lee directing, maybe there's hope. On Sat, 4 May 2002, glyph1001 wrote: I went to see Spider-man with Alan Oldham [Detroit Techno relevence] himself and the man was literally in tears [please don't hold that against him because he truely loves comic books and superheros!] when the flick ended. I myself couldn't help trying to see through mines because although it was a kick-ass, action packed movie, it has romance and touching moments that played towards the female audience. A little bit for everyone. Tobey was just smashing in this movie and I can't wait for the sequel. I think they're working on it as we speak and will be out next year! Alan told me that he basically waited 38 years for a movie like this. I'm sure you'll read about it soon on his website at the 'studio notes' section for he said he'll definitely write a review on it. And J.K. Simmons [Ole' Shillinger (sp?) from HBO's Oz fame.] as J. Jonah Jameson was so like the comic book and the old cartoons! He was true to form. Yeah, the way the web was spun is, uhahhahahah, gross at first. Well he can't run out of web because he's Spider-man :-) but I think they decided to make Parker spin his webs naturally or automatically, as opposed to an artificial mechanism to produce the web. Oh and the way the Goblin died is likeOUCH! The web swinging scenes were abolutely breath-taking, OMG! Just think of seeing this at the L.A. premiere! That would've been over the top. All I can say is that this movie was pretty much a perfect 10. Also, Sean, did you see the new Star Wars preview along with the Hulk and directed by Ang Lee!?!?! Whooohoo!! That's gonna be bad-ass! Sheesh, where I was at, the audience was more excited about Hulk than the Star Wars preview. People where cheering, clapping and shouting. Pretty funny. We even ran in to Dan Sicko at the Post office afterwards and he says he's going on Monday so let us know what you think Dan! :-) And Sean, you RAWK!!! As for Kirsten, Alan agrees. LMAO. He always say, From Dunst 'till Dawn. :-) Laters, G. sean deason wrote: hell yeah!! I second the motion! Tobey (deer caught in the headlights) Maguire nailed it! Not since Michael Keaton has an actor *really* gotten into the psyche of a legendarysuperhero, but I was very impressed. I'm ready to plop down another 6 bucks to give it another spin. One thing that does bother me though. the new way he spins his webs is kinda gross. and where does the material for the webs come from? wouldnt he run out of it after a while? Maybe thats something they adapted from the Venom costume, but still it grosses me out :^) XMen was a big disappoinment (too much character development and by the time the action started the movie was over) but I love this movie! sean deason Kirsten Dunst in the rain is well worth the price of admission :^) sean Mxyzptlk wrote: hm detroit relevance...let me think...if only the director were from Detroit or something. That would be one thing, but it would be better if there was a 313 type link between techno and comix. What's Alan Oldham been up to lately? jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] jak party, sunday may 25
you should probably stop him when he's passin by. derek. On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: richie hawtin's my ice cream man!!! On Fri, 3 May 2002, jonathan morse wrote: if this is true it would only be fitting for him to start his set with eruption ;p On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 11:44 AM, Rob Theakston wrote: don't bet on it. rumor has it rich booked the sound system from Van Halen's Diver Down tour from '82. look for wall to wall stacks and maybe david lee roth as a roadie. -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:41 PM To: Bill Van Loo; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] jak party, sunday may 25 nice!, they just posted that today cuz I checked last night and it wasnt there. its going to be tough to decide between acquaviva at motor and hawtin atthe jak party. I'll go to jak if someone can assure me the sound system will be toned down a bit from the jack party last year and the control party from whenever that was (cant remember) my ears cant take another excessive party like that. -Joe fux www.emmrecords.com/teh_fux - Original Message - From: Bill Van Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: [313] jak party, sunday may 25 also: http://m-nus.com/calendar/ The technotourists are going to get tired from typing in all this afterparty biz pretty soonit's starting to get fast furious! bvl -- http://www.chromedecay.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] ebay - kdj
Some may want to check this out, others may not. It's a whitelabel release of Moodymann's Telephone EP on Peacefrog. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=867871537 -sam hobbs http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] oh petstore lawyers...
fyi Thinking of suing Hyperreal? Read this first. This is an attempt to describe Hyperreal in terms that accurately reflect its collaborative and somewhat amorphous nature. The intent is to help technologically ignorant lawyers and other interested parties better understand Hyperreal, so that legal issues can be resolved based on accurate assumptions. This document came about in response to some extremely poorly worded licensing agreements proposed by ASCAP and BMI. However, it should be noted that none of this material has been reviewed by legal counsel. The statements herein should only be taken as an indication of the general views of Hyperreal and the perspective from which legal challenges regarding Hyperreal's content will generally be considered. http://www.hyperreal.org/info/organization/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] back to the future
one of the books you might be referring to is Stalking Detroit - a great book. it explores ideas around the 20th Century city, using detroit as its prime example - a city conceived to serve capitalism but constrained by this very definition. lots of very interesting and digestable facts about detroit to challenge those that still question race as a key issue in the city and, thus, the music. the future that was envisiged cannot be 'retro', as pointed out; it still alludes us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 04 May 2002 23:02 Subject: Re: [313] back to the future I don't think that Detroit Techno (I'm not sure how to do that little registered mark so this will have to do) has been surpassed by the future. I do believe that it is still of and for the future considering that so many people have yet to hear Detroit Techno (of which there are many sounds). Take UR's new Inspired EP. I played a sample of it for a friend and he said, paraphrasing here, That's like - totally new - I don't think I've ever heard anything like that before. Currently, I'm trying to hunt down releases on Plink Plonk - which as far as I'm concerned might as well been a Detroit label. There is so much music on that label that has never been made like that before and rarely is made like that now but for lots of people that I know - it would be hard for them to get their heads around it. Detroit Techno for me is what tech-house *used* to be - innovative and explorative. When I hear Mills' Apollo - I feel like I'm riding on a space probe. It puts me out there. has the future envisioned by the original Detroit Techno® generation passed us by? Not sure - what exactly *is/was* this future? Are we talking about flying cars or equality? We have neither still so I'd say that no, it hasn't passed us by at all. Old Detroit style techno like Derrick May and Carl Craig used to make will still f*ck you up like no other. What is really cool is that I'm seeing more and more essays and books about the city of Detroit that describe it as the ultimate city of the 20th Century and still others who are writing about how Detroit, if allowed to grow in an organic manner, could have a rebirth like no other city in America. I'll find my sources and send them to you if you like. MEK sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .netcc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] back to the future 05/04/02 02:44 PM Please respond to seandeason that reminds me of the question I wanted to ask Jeff Mills at the Submerge/Metropolis showing (but unfortunately the QA period was dominated by some clown with a big mouth and small brain): is Detroit Techno® still music of and for the future or is it now considered retro to make Detroit style techno? has the future envisoned by the original Detroit Techno® generation passed us by? When people ask me what kind of music I'm making these days I tell them old Detroit style techno like Derrick May and Carl Craig used to make. I think if the future has indeed passed us by, then it's time we went Back to the Future. Anyone feel the same way or is it just me? sean old school g.e.d. receipient deason glyph1001 wrote: I would believe that alot of comic book/superhero fans are into Techno or may have played a role in the creation of Techno music because of the fantasy and romanticism of superheros and the pining for space travel and anything to do with Futurism. So in that sense, I'm not surprised. Actually I think its cool. :-) g. Mxyzptlk wrote: At 09:21 AM 5/4/2002, you wrote: hm detroit relevance...let me think...if only the director were from Detroit or something. (to make matters worse/risking the ire of the 'purists', I would ask:) How many of you would 'fess up to being/have been comic book fanciers/collectors/followers? I ask because I have a feeling there's more overlap than some may anticipate; music geeks are geeks looking for an obsession (from personal experience anyway). I know when I was young I had hefty bags upon bags full of comix...early Marvel (Spiderman, Daredevil, FF, X-Men, Dr. Strange, Avengers, etc., etc) and D.C. I used to spend my weekly allowance on them. My guess is that many of you know the origin of my email handle from other sources than Saturday morning cartoons of yore. It's pretty amazing how many former comic book junkies populate email music lists. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,
Re: [313] back to the future
one of the books you might be referring to is Stalking Detroit - a great book. it explores ideas around the 20th Century city, using detroit as its prime example - a city conceived to serve capitalism but constrained by this very definition. lots of very interesting and digestable facts about detroit to challenge those that still question race as a key issue in the city and, thus, the music. the future that was envisiged cannot be 'retro', as pointed out; it still alludes us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 04 May 2002 23:02 Subject: Re: [313] back to the future I don't think that Detroit Techno (I'm not sure how to do that little registered mark so this will have to do) has been surpassed by the future. I do believe that it is still of and for the future considering that so many people have yet to hear Detroit Techno (of which there are many sounds). Take UR's new Inspired EP. I played a sample of it for a friend and he said, paraphrasing here, That's like - totally new - I don't think I've ever heard anything like that before. Currently, I'm trying to hunt down releases on Plink Plonk - which as far as I'm concerned might as well been a Detroit label. There is so much music on that label that has never been made like that before and rarely is made like that now but for lots of people that I know - it would be hard for them to get their heads around it. Detroit Techno for me is what tech-house *used* to be - innovative and explorative. When I hear Mills' Apollo - I feel like I'm riding on a space probe. It puts me out there. has the future envisioned by the original Detroit Techno® generation passed us by? Not sure - what exactly *is/was* this future? Are we talking about flying cars or equality? We have neither still so I'd say that no, it hasn't passed us by at all. Old Detroit style techno like Derrick May and Carl Craig used to make will still f*ck you up like no other. What is really cool is that I'm seeing more and more essays and books about the city of Detroit that describe it as the ultimate city of the 20th Century and still others who are writing about how Detroit, if allowed to grow in an organic manner, could have a rebirth like no other city in America. I'll find my sources and send them to you if you like. MEK sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .netcc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] back to the future 05/04/02 02:44 PM Please respond to seandeason that reminds me of the question I wanted to ask Jeff Mills at the Submerge/Metropolis showing (but unfortunately the QA period was dominated by some clown with a big mouth and small brain): is Detroit Techno® still music of and for the future or is it now considered retro to make Detroit style techno? has the future envisoned by the original Detroit Techno® generation passed us by? When people ask me what kind of music I'm making these days I tell them old Detroit style techno like Derrick May and Carl Craig used to make. I think if the future has indeed passed us by, then it's time we went Back to the Future. Anyone feel the same way or is it just me? sean old school g.e.d. receipient deason glyph1001 wrote: I would believe that alot of comic book/superhero fans are into Techno or may have played a role in the creation of Techno music because of the fantasy and romanticism of superheros and the pining for space travel and anything to do with Futurism. So in that sense, I'm not surprised. Actually I think its cool. :-) g. Mxyzptlk wrote: At 09:21 AM 5/4/2002, you wrote: hm detroit relevance...let me think...if only the director were from Detroit or something. (to make matters worse/risking the ire of the 'purists', I would ask:) How many of you would 'fess up to being/have been comic book fanciers/collectors/followers? I ask because I have a feeling there's more overlap than some may anticipate; music geeks are geeks looking for an obsession (from personal experience anyway). I know when I was young I had hefty bags upon bags full of comix...early Marvel (Spiderman, Daredevil, FF, X-Men, Dr. Strange, Avengers, etc., etc) and D.C. I used to spend my weekly allowance on them. My guess is that many of you know the origin of my email handle from other sources than Saturday morning cartoons of yore. It's pretty amazing how many former comic book junkies populate email music lists. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,
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hey folks. any 313'rs going to check out TP and DC at Touch on Saturday May 11th? see ya there. regards, lrh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] back to the future
one of the books you might be referring to is Stalking Detroit - a great book. it explores ideas around the 20th Century city, using detroit as its prime example - a city conceived to serve capitalism but constrained by this very definition. lots of very interesting and digestable facts about detroit to challenge those that still question race as a key issue in the city and, thus, the music. the future that was envisiged cannot be 'retro', as pointed out; it still alludes us. having trouble sending this..could someone let me know if they got it.in which case, sorry for the repeat -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 04 May 2002 23:02 Subject: Re: [313] back to the future I don't think that Detroit Techno (I'm not sure how to do that little registered mark so this will have to do) has been surpassed by the future. I do believe that it is still of and for the future considering that so many people have yet to hear Detroit Techno (of which there are many sounds). Take UR's new Inspired EP. I played a sample of it for a friend and he said, paraphrasing here, That's like - totally new - I don't think I've ever heard anything like that before. Currently, I'm trying to hunt down releases on Plink Plonk - which as far as I'm concerned might as well been a Detroit label. There is so much music on that label that has never been made like that before and rarely is made like that now but for lots of people that I know - it would be hard for them to get their heads around it. Detroit Techno for me is what tech-house *used* to be - innovative and explorative. When I hear Mills' Apollo - I feel like I'm riding on a space probe. It puts me out there. has the future envisioned by the original Detroit Techno® generation passed us by? Not sure - what exactly *is/was* this future? Are we talking about flying cars or equality? We have neither still so I'd say that no, it hasn't passed us by at all. Old Detroit style techno like Derrick May and Carl Craig used to make will still f*ck you up like no other. What is really cool is that I'm seeing more and more essays and books about the city of Detroit that describe it as the ultimate city of the 20th Century and still others who are writing about how Detroit, if allowed to grow in an organic manner, could have a rebirth like no other city in America. I'll find my sources and send them to you if you like. MEK sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .netcc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] back to the future 05/04/02 02:44 PM Please respond to seandeason that reminds me of the question I wanted to ask Jeff Mills at the Submerge/Metropolis showing (but unfortunately the QA period was dominated by some clown with a big mouth and small brain): is Detroit Techno® still music of and for the future or is it now considered retro to make Detroit style techno? has the future envisoned by the original Detroit Techno® generation passed us by? When people ask me what kind of music I'm making these days I tell them old Detroit style techno like Derrick May and Carl Craig used to make. I think if the future has indeed passed us by, then it's time we went Back to the Future. Anyone feel the same way or is it just me? sean old school g.e.d. receipient deason glyph1001 wrote: I would believe that alot of comic book/superhero fans are into Techno or may have played a role in the creation of Techno music because of the fantasy and romanticism of superheros and the pining for space travel and anything to do with Futurism. So in that sense, I'm not surprised. Actually I think its cool. :-) g. Mxyzptlk wrote: At 09:21 AM 5/4/2002, you wrote: hm detroit relevance...let me think...if only the director were from Detroit or something. (to make matters worse/risking the ire of the 'purists', I would ask:) How many of you would 'fess up to being/have been comic book fanciers/collectors/followers? I ask because I have a feeling there's more overlap than some may anticipate; music geeks are geeks looking for an obsession (from personal experience anyway). I know when I was young I had hefty bags upon bags full of comix...early Marvel (Spiderman, Daredevil, FF, X-Men, Dr. Strange, Avengers, etc., etc) and D.C. I used to spend my weekly allowance on them. My guess is that many of you know the origin of my email handle from other sources than Saturday morning cartoons of yore. It's pretty amazing how many former comic book junkies populate email music lists. jeff
