Re: (313) Agents of Change Gig
NO NO NO NO! Why have they announced this when they don't even have their website up yet? I would have gone had I known in advance but now there's no chance of me being able to get the money together for it... I even emailed the organizers and have yet to hear back from them about the US dates? Is this another poorly planned/executed tour? MEK john sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org il.msn.com cc: Subject: (313) Agents of Change Gig 10/06/02 04:46 PM Thought some people might be interested in this... Agents of Change North American Tour Friday, October 11th, 2002 Juan Atkins -Special electro set Derrick May Kevin Saunderson -4 deck tag team set Sound-Bar 226 W. Ontario Chicago 10-4, 21+ C U THERE! Cheers, John
(313) morgan geist in chicago?
i was in chicago this weekend and heard some talk about morgan geist playing at smart bar on some upcoming thursday. does anybody know the details on this? (in particular, the date?)
RE: (313) Rolando in London
The gig (scheduled for Saturday) was cancelled. Does anyone know why? k -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Rolando in London tomorrow Here we go: http://www.burntblue.com/news/news.asp?News=2900 Rogue Junior @ Rouge: Andrew Borde Street, Charing Cross Road, London 10-5am, £15 / £12 conc
RE: (313) Mayday Mix
Ive always really really liked this mix - although I reckon theres no reason why it couldnt have been pulled off live , bit of a shame but still a darn good mix ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2002 21:26 To: Maarten Baute Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Mayday Mix On Friday, October 4, 2002, at 12:44 PM, Maarten Baute wrote: also in the mix, the underrated convextion release on matrix.. truly brilliant.. yes! such a great track although i've never come close to making it sound as good as it does in this mix. the mix is pro-tooled though.. the mix sounds amazing.. but a lot of stuff is done with computer.. wich is not a problem for me.. especially considering what was done with it. that middle section from Preacher Man to the backward bit with Alarms is just freakin' amazing. this is one of my favorite mix cds, without question. probably the favorite. speaking of, i have the original japanese release... it came with a little 2.5x3.5 18 page photo booklet. does the cd still come with this these days? -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Whitney V Krafwerk bootleg
I think it's just because you said you disliked some people's... deferential attitudes toward... the players, which might translate, in a jokey way, as you saying that you dislike player-haters. That probably made the lyrics to that song come into Marc's head. I doubt it's serious! :) yeah sorry for my random outbust - it was purely for the ghetto-comedy as explained above :] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) Carl on xfm - recording?
I recorded it on MD last night. Listened to some of it on the way to work. Lovely track selection. (don't ask me for a track listing though!) ;) - Original Message - From: Melody Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:05 PM Subject: (313) Carl on xfm - recording? Did anyone manage to record it from online or from the radio? If only the guys on London express would play the entire set! Carl played for almost 4 hours that night (or was it 3... anyway..) Cheers Mel __ Melody Ng - Primary Materials Australasian Legal Information Institute (AustLII) http://www.austlii.edu.au/
RE: (313) Rolando in London
On reflection, I suppose the answer's obvious given the events of last week. k -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) Rolando in London The gig (scheduled for Saturday) was cancelled. Does anyone know why? k -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Rolando in London tomorrow Here we go: http://www.burntblue.com/news/news.asp?News=2900 Rogue Junior @ Rouge: Andrew Borde Street, Charing Cross Road, London 10-5am, £15 / £12 conc
(313) The Third Wave?
Hello 313ers! Would somebody like to help me get this straight: When you speak about the 1st wave of Detroit I guess it's Juan, Derrick and Kevin. 2nd Wave might be C2 and UR then (?). Stacey Pullen called himself 3rd wave, but where do you draw the line? Do people use these expresseions at all? And did Neil Olliviera write a book (a novel?) about Detroit techno? Hansi
RE: (313) Time:Space 2
Just out of interest how are stephen browns transmat releases? I have pretty much all his sativae/drought/djax/realtime releases and love them all but ive never heard any of his workfor transmat. Cheers neil :-Original Message- :From: Andy Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 6:07 AM :To: 313 List :Subject: (313) Time:Space 2 : :I just found this tracklisting online, for the new Transmat compilation :which seems to already be out in Japan... Does anyone know if this is going :to be the same tracklisting for the rest of the world? Sure looks good! : :DISC 1 :1. Aril Brikha - Bytes :2. Microworld - BC Style :3. Indio - Inca :4. Stephen Brown - I Am Someone :5. Louis Haiman - Actualization :6. Yellow Planet - Story of China Men :7. Sans Soleil - Stretched Blue Oval :8. Sans Soleil - Winter Light :9. Ebb - Someone So True :10. Reggie Dokes - Metu Neter : :DISC 2 :1. Rodenbush - Tranquility :2. Lucien Nicolet - Pasando Una Puerta :3. Rodenbush - Awakening :4. Stephen Brown - The Year Zero :5. L.S. - Thyme Spice :6. John Arnold - Respectall :7. Yellow Planet - The Fugitive :8. Louis Haiman - The Question of You :9. Microworld - DB :10. Sans Soleil - Sahara VHF :11. Tony Drake - Wings
(313) The truth about missing the point and clarifying
It always amazes me just how bad my writing is. For how else can so many people mis-interpret my meanderings. Anyway, Jeff had some good points, so I think I need to clarify. First, to everyone who thinks I am bagging laptop shows, that is not the case. A laptop is a tool to do something, the laptop does not sing and dance for you, nor will it be scoring groupies afterwards, although oddly enough the damn things can still get viruses, but I digress. It's only a tool, so just as an Apple Mac won't make you a better designer, a laptop won't make a boring performance. Second, Kent decided to bring up Fred Gianelli. I don't know why. I have never heard anyone describe his performance as boring (well maybe his ex-girlfriend ... laugh Fred laugh ...) and to my current knowledge he doesn't use a laptop as his main performance piece. Sorry, there was no second point, I just wanted the cheap laughs of the ex-girlfriend joke. So here's my refined point about boring laptop shows in some kind of logical notation: IF you go to a performance AND the performance is BORING * (see note below) AND the performer primarily uses a laptop THEN BECAUSE a laptop is inanimate and cannot be blamed AND BECAUSE the performer is only expressing their art and cannot be blamed THE only conclusion left is that the music is boring. Elementary my dear Watson. * BORING. Thanks to all you boring people telling me about subjectivity I have refined the definition of BORING to be anything which you find boring, for you personally, not for anyone else. Also notice the difference between BORING and boring. BORING is subjective and boring is universal in that we all know how boring feels. SO The next time you go see your favourite act perform AND they are boring AND they are using a laptop, PLEASE DON'T BLAME THE LAPTOP, it's the MUSIC which is BORING * * (according to the above definition) Thank-you for allowing me to clarify. Tosh -- Twelve Hundred Group http://www.1200group.com/
(313) Re: The truth about laptop shows...
I know why a laptop show is boring. It's because the f**king music the artist is playing is boring. Kraftwerk uses 4 Sony VAIOs onstage now :-) - Greg
RE: (313) Re: The truth about laptop shows...
True. After seeing a Kraftwerk show (at which they used laptops) a man gets merciless abt other pretenders of electronic music performance using the same! ... -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) Re: The truth about laptop shows... I know why a laptop show is boring. It's because the f**king music the artist is playing is boring. Kraftwerk uses 4 Sony VAIOs onstage now :-) - Greg
(313) redshift / agents of change
redshift! I only now realised it was you from your email address. I love your ep on gourmet , 'The surface' is one of my favourite tracks to start tech house sets with! Infact I like everything on gourmet, audio soul project did their first releases on this , did they not? I like them too. do you have any planned releases coming up? btw I would dearly love to hear recordings from either one of the sets at the agents of change gig. pity I am not in america as i'd be there. http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger for SMS - Always be connected to your Messenger Friends
Re: (313) Re: The truth about laptop shows...
I know why a laptop show is boring. It's because the f**king music the artist is playing is boring. I just wondered what the other options are for an electronic artist playing live? I saw a great laptop performance last week, the artist didn't do much. Just the odd little grin when he heard people screaming. I really cannot understand the problem with this kind of performance? What do you expect make up, costumes, dancers? ie Basement Jaxx? Of course some kinds of laptop performance, like the one at the tate which started the thread some people find boring. I think that's more to do with the type of music than the fact it was coming from a laptop?? --Mike
RE: (313) Re: The truth about laptop shows...
This makes no sense, when I go out because someone is playing, I go to hear the music being dropped and to groove my ass off on the floor. It shouldn't be any different if you're watching a live electronic performance. What do you expect to see??? The DJ just slaps on the records and does his thing. The performer loads the tracks and does his thing. He too tweaks the eq and mixes the tracks just like the DJ??? Shit I don't know...
(313) tuesday night in the D.: Todd Sines @ Foran's.
pluggin' away! Tuesday, October 8 Todd Sines in a special Detroit DJ set! with the ever lovely Jan D. Foran's 612 Woodward Ave. (Woodward @ Congress) Detroit, MI Doors @ 9pm $5 cover Come celebrate the release of Todd's new overlap EP, featuring vocalist Natacha Labelle. This is his first Detroit appearance since his amazing live performance at Planet E's All Access 2 during the 2002 DEMF, and Todd will be playing a special DJ set at Foran's, one of downtown's best kept secrets! --written by Kito Also featuring Jan D. from The House of PR, rocking the electro + italo disco beats! http://www.planet-e.net/ http://www.scalestudio.com/sound/sines/ http://www.thehouseofpr.com/ thx +odd -- Todd Sines icq: 7580 SCALE:form | image | sound http://www.scalestudio.com
Re: (313) The truth about missing the point and clarifying
on 10/7/02 7:12 AM, Tosh Cooey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It always amazes me just how bad my writing is. For how else can so many people mis-interpret my meanderings. Anyway, Jeff had some good points, so I think I need to clarify. First, to everyone who thinks I am bagging laptop shows, that is not the case. A laptop is a tool to do something, the laptop does not sing and dance for you, nor will it be scoring groupies afterwards, although oddly enough the damn things can still get viruses, but I digress. It's only a tool, so just as an Apple Mac won't make you a better designer, a laptop won't make a boring performance. Second, Kent decided to bring up Fred Gianelli. It's GiaNNelli. ; ) I don't know why. I have never heard anyone describe his performance as boring (well maybe his ex-girlfriend ... laugh Fred laugh ...) What ex-girlfriend ? I didn't know I had an Ex-girlfriend. They never stick around long enough to be considered girlfriends. and to my current knowledge he doesn't use a laptop as his main performance piece. Well Tosh, you've been out of the country too long. I now use a laptop since Ableton Live came out last year. By the way I may be in your neck of the woods soon. Where are you living these days ? Sorry, there was no second point, I just wanted the cheap laughs of the ex-girlfriend joke. I understand where you are coming from. In fact after years of lugging around heavy equipment, I now have more flexibility and options in a live set by using a laptop and Ableton Live. I pre-prepare my live set but the actual arrangement can be completely spontaneous if I choose. I suppose I could pre-arrange everything and just hit play, then jump around on stage and near the end of my set jump up on a keyboard and strike a crucifix pose and have a bright white light shine on me. ie: f--- Moby.(past present) ; P However, I did struggle with the visual aspect of using a laptop live. It does appear to look ridiculous just staring at a screen. In fact my friends refer to laptop acts as Screengazers, much like UK Shoegazer bands. Stewart Walker and I have debated this point a lot. I think he's crazy lugging around heavy equipment in this day and age. He's doing more International dates than I these days and dealing with the same old heavy equipment problems. He even went to the trouble of designing Persona Records T-shirts with a logo of a no laptop performance on it. He also asked me to get a copy of Ableton Live for him from Ableton (since I am an endorsee) and they gave it to him and he still doesn't use it. I had to pay for my copy before I got the endorsement deal ! Although he does admit that Native Instruments new laptop Sampler may replace his hardware sampler. I have a Native Instruments endorsement deal also and Kontakt is a great sampler so there is no point in lugging around hardware unless you are a masochist or can't deal with spontaneous computer glitches. Your back will thank you in a few years, believe me. Now the point of all this is that I don't think I would sound any different using hardware equipment vs. what I do now with a laptop. I also don't think Stewart would sound any different by using a laptop. It's what the composer/arranger does musically that matters. Whether you like Boring Laptop music or not. I personally don't mind some boring laptop music. Performance wise, it's all boring to those not interested in the process. I don't consider doing electronic music live as a performance anyway and always refer to an appearance as a Live Electronic Demonstration or L.E.D. Hope this helps. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist PS. if anyone is interested in booking me in Europe in November feel free to contact me ASAP. -- Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: Oct. 17th - Chicago, Smart Bar. Oct. 26th - Detroit, Citi Club. November - Germany Switzerland -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 *new CL # 617.905.9619 and FAX 781.944.8996 http://www.mp3.com/fredgiannelli http://www.telepathica.com **New E-addresses* [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED] So here's my refined point about boring laptop shows in some kind of logical notation: IF you go to a performance AND the performance is BORING * (see note below) AND the performer primarily uses a laptop THEN BECAUSE a laptop is inanimate and cannot be blamed AND BECAUSE the performer is only expressing their art and cannot be blamed THE only conclusion left is that the music is boring. Elementary my dear Watson. * BORING. Thanks to all you boring people telling me about subjectivity I have refined the definition of BORING to be anything which you find boring, for you personally, not for anyone else. Also notice the difference between BORING and boring. BORING is subjective and boring
RE: (313) Re: The truth about laptop shows...
yeah yeah - its a bit open-ended this thread, it depends who you go to see, for what reason and what your exspectations are. Persoanlly I like a bit of action in the eye candy department which I why I totally enjoyed seeing matthew herbert going at it freaky-style at the royal festival hall - entertaining both visually and aurally. Saying that I went to see groove armada a while back [ok not quite 313] at the brixton academy..they didnt really do very much apart from tinker with some ibooks but the sounds were good and vibe in the venue was good. [over out] Marc -Original Message- From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 October 2002 14:21 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Re: The truth about laptop shows... I know why a laptop show is boring. It's because the f**king music the artist is playing is boring. I just wondered what the other options are for an electronic artist playing live? I saw a great laptop performance last week, the artist didn't do much. Just the odd little grin when he heard people screaming. I really cannot understand the problem with this kind of performance? What do you expect make up, costumes, dancers? ie Basement Jaxx? Of course some kinds of laptop performance, like the one at the tate which started the thread some people find boring. I think that's more to do with the type of music than the fact it was coming from a laptop?? --Mike -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
(313) [idm] The truth about laptop shows...
I agree. Sometimes it's the people *watching* the shows that are boring. (not intended as a dig on the person who started the post) ken this is the reason that DJs play for several hours and live PAs are typically 1 hour or less. and remember guys, the person making the music is just making the music. the emphasis should be on the party, not the person making the music _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
(313) 68 minutes of pumping acid house
finally got round to a track list for the mix last month... Esp-slo mo definitive Nano machine 2 andrei moroant rmx by esp testube Random xs as it takes djax Acid warrior karzinom ep - junkfood 4D miss a waterfall - ltd edition picture disc labworks Spasms ep djax Affie yusuf acid waves 3 909 perversions Affie yusuf 909 eats children force inc acid burns lp Affie yusuf Affie¹s turn force inc Acid farm el synco ep - proper 4D hidden 2x12 labworks Esp further ep 7² drop bass network 008 Morph stromwatch ep sinewave 001 Sysex acid track cr 101 plus 8 Dark side of the sword 2 destroy them my robots- plasmek
RE: (313) [idm] The truth about laptop shows...
Hey this is all about one thing, a good party :) Good people I believe make the guy playing work harder, and the harder they work the better it will be.. -Original Message- From: kenneth taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 October 2002 16:22 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) [idm] The truth about laptop shows... I agree. Sometimes it's the people *watching* the shows that are boring. (not intended as a dig on the person who started the post) ken this is the reason that DJs play for several hours and live PAs are typically 1 hour or less. and remember guys, the person making the music is just making the music. the emphasis should be on the party, not the person making the music _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 24/07/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 24/07/02
(313) foran's tonight (ot)
INPUT/OUTPUT lineup: tom linder dan lucas rob barrett docile djz 2.00 pints no cover 10:00-2:00+ what else is there to do on monday? foran's irish pub 612 Woodward Ave. Detroit, MI 48207 313-961-3043 tonight is dedicated to jimmy. sad to see you go.
(313) uploads and uplift
for those not registered yet, get to it now before the 25 days is up. make a difference. for real! https://register.votenet.com/votenet/ but in any case i was wondering also if any of you guys know where on the net someone can upload files upwards to 20mb+ a file, if only just one,(without using something like tripod, etc...) of any format, such as mp3, rm, ra, ram, wav...you understand. i have been looking and i cant find a thing, not that i expected to.lol thanks for any advice. peace d
RE: (313) Mayday Mix
I'm really after the Derrick May vibe - that certain funk and groove he has and it will come out whether it was a real mix or a computer splice and dice - it's his choice of tunes and exactly how he mixes them. The good vibe will come out because it is his mind that is doing either mix types - not the computer. The computer is just a tool for his mind to expand... I get the computer vs live mix debate though - I find some ProTools mixes boring but I really think it's just the person behind the mouse. A tired argument but my feelings about it... MEK Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] .comcc: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Mayday Mix 10/07/02 03:21 AM Ive always really really liked this mix - although I reckon theres no reason why it couldnt have been pulled off live , bit of a shame but still a darn good mix ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2002 21:26 To: Maarten Baute Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Mayday Mix On Friday, October 4, 2002, at 12:44 PM, Maarten Baute wrote: also in the mix, the underrated convextion release on matrix.. truly brilliant.. yes! such a great track although i've never come close to making it sound as good as it does in this mix. the mix is pro-tooled though.. the mix sounds amazing.. but a lot of stuff is done with computer.. wich is not a problem for me.. especially considering what was done with it. that middle section from Preacher Man to the backward bit with Alarms is just freakin' amazing. this is one of my favorite mix cds, without question. probably the favorite. speaking of, i have the original japanese release... it came with a little 2.5x3.5 18 page photo booklet. does the cd still come with this these days? -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) Time:Space 2
the EP I is really interesting. two tracks. the A side is a strong techno track, with powerfull drumns and a wiked efect wish brings seriosity to the song. it have somo vocals that if understood wrong, can make the track sound a litle clubby. the B side is a track just with drums and a deep synth. its a nice track to sping too. - Original Message - From: Neil Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Andy Mitchell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '313 List' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:59 AM Subject: RE: (313) Time:Space 2 Just out of interest how are stephen browns transmat releases? I have pretty much all his sativae/drought/djax/realtime releases and love them all but ive never heard any of his workfor transmat. Cheers neil :-Original Message- :From: Andy Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 6:07 AM :To: 313 List :Subject: (313) Time:Space 2 : :I just found this tracklisting online, for the new Transmat compilation :which seems to already be out in Japan... Does anyone know if this is going :to be the same tracklisting for the rest of the world? Sure looks good! : :DISC 1 :1. Aril Brikha - Bytes :2. Microworld - BC Style :3. Indio - Inca :4. Stephen Brown - I Am Someone :5. Louis Haiman - Actualization :6. Yellow Planet - Story of China Men :7. Sans Soleil - Stretched Blue Oval :8. Sans Soleil - Winter Light :9. Ebb - Someone So True :10. Reggie Dokes - Metu Neter : :DISC 2 :1. Rodenbush - Tranquility :2. Lucien Nicolet - Pasando Una Puerta :3. Rodenbush - Awakening :4. Stephen Brown - The Year Zero :5. L.S. - Thyme Spice :6. John Arnold - Respectall :7. Yellow Planet - The Fugitive :8. Louis Haiman - The Question of You :9. Microworld - DB :10. Sans Soleil - Sahara VHF :11. Tony Drake - Wings
(313) Laptop Techno
If you guys want to check out some laptop act that is not boring then check out my two friends. www.mp3.com/acidcircus Two guys on two laptops pumping out techno, hard and funky. rh [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Michael Lees wrote: Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 14:21:28 +0100 From: Michael Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Re: The truth about laptop shows... I know why a laptop show is boring. It's because the f**king music the artist is playing is boring. I just wondered what the other options are for an electronic artist playing live? I saw a great laptop performance last week, the artist didn't do much. Just the odd little grin when he heard people screaming. I really cannot understand the problem with this kind of performance? What do you expect make up, costumes, dancers? ie Basement Jaxx? Of course some kinds of laptop performance, like the one at the tate which started the thread some people find boring. I think that's more to do with the type of music than the fact it was coming from a laptop?? --Mike
Re: (313) [idm] The truth about laptop shows...
It comes back to diffent styles of music appeal to different people. Some people like loopy songs, some people like complicated song structure, some people like jazz, while another may hate jazz at love ...ahem, cough - Def Leppard. And of course some people are newer, less experienced musicians and play live and you obviously won't get a musical show of the same caliber as someone who has years of experimenting and creative development. From: kenneth taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) [idm] The truth about laptop shows... Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 15:22:05 + I agree. Sometimes it's the people *watching* the shows that are boring. (not intended as a dig on the person who started the post) ken this is the reason that DJs play for several hours and live PAs are typically 1 hour or less. and remember guys, the person making the music is just making the music. the emphasis should be on the party, not the person making the music _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Steve Roy _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: (313) The Third Wave?
- Original Message - From: Güclüer, Hansi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: (313) The Third Wave? Hello 313ers! Would somebody like to help me get this straight: When you speak about the 1st wave of Detroit I guess it's Juan, Derrick and Kevin. 2nd Wave might be C2 and UR then (?). Stacey Pullen called himself 3rd wave, but where do you draw the line? Do people use these expresseions at all? The wave terminology comes from Toffler, and his book 'The Third Wave', which infomed some of the early techno ideology (to oversimplify things). I just stumbled across this, which is one take on it: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1392/DetroitTechno.html If Juan Atkins Derrick May Kevin Saunderson are the first wave of Detroit Techno artists; Carl Craig, the Underground Resistance crew and ... the second wave, then Moodymann (Kenny Dixon Jr) Theo Parrish and Terrence Parker are the third wave. I think this guy may have his timelines a bit off and is neglecting a few folks. But I think that illustrates that it's all pretty subjective... TP has been DJing for 20 years. Does that make him a 1st Wave DJ and a 3rd Wave producer??? No point in digging that deep into it really. Just remember: Steve Paton is the 4th Wave. :) Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Planet E
Tight bass lines, great rhythm sections, and micro vocals that build into a nice coherent vocal track. I'd definitely recommend picking it up when it's out. The moonstar remixes are quite good as well. Go Todd! -pete -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:42 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Planet E Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text I was just looking on the Planet E site and I found this; |--| | | | New on Planet E!| | Todd Sines + Natacha Labelle| | overlap ep| | | | Release Date: October 8, 2002 | | | | Featuring Toronto vocalist Natacha Labelle, | | this record marks a new transition in the sound | | of Todd, combining his past efforts in the | | minimal techno, electro, + abstract genres and | | moving forward into the uncharted territory of | | deep, dark, house music. The EP also has a | | broken beat dub mix by fellow Torontoian| | Moonstarr aka Kevin Moon [PTR / Compost]. Look | | out for special limited edition single | | [PE65269-1] featuring C2 mixes as cum closer | | and i cannot. | | | |--| has anyone heard it? Is it out Oct 8th? How are the Carl Craig mixes? (I got a fetish for Carl Craig remixes at the minute for some reason..) - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Financial Services Authority for investment business activities. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com _ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
RE: (313) Planet E
I heard the rumour that there will be a special edition of this record with limited Carl Craig remixes that won't be on the official 12 ?!?!?! Any comments, folks? Cheers, Arne has anyone heard it? Is it out Oct 8th? How are the Carl Craig mixes? (I got a fetish for Carl Craig remixes at the minute for some reason..) -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°° -- -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°°
(313) New Theo Parrish 12
I think Minto George already posted it yesterday or on saturday but I really have to give it an extra special kick I received the new Sound Signature 12 of Theo Parrish today and it is so beautiful... really amazing! One of Theo's best records in my personal opinion. Theo Parrish - Solitary flight / Sound Signature 016 Solitary flight sounds like an very old movie soundtrack with nice strings and piano combined with the typical rhythm work of Theo Parrish Dellwood II is more in the normal style of Theo Parrish, means a little bit more jazzy and minimal. Also great, even though it doesn't reach the quality of the A-side IMO. Cheers, Arne -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°°
(313) New Tomorrow 12 ????
Hello folks! I have seen somewhere online (I think it was www.sonicgroove.com) that there will be a new 12 on Tomorrow by Mills soon? Anybody heard it already? Cheers, Arne -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°°
Re: (313) The truth about missing the point and clarifying
Stewart Walker and I have debated this point a lot. I think he's crazy lugging around heavy equipment in this day and age. He's doing more International dates than I these days and dealing with the same old heavy equipment problems. He even went to the trouble of designing Persona Records T-shirts with a logo of a no laptop performance on it. He also asked me to get a copy of Ableton Live for him from Ableton (since I am an endorsee) and they gave it to him and he still doesn't use it. I had to pay for my copy before I got the endorsement deal ! Although he does admit that Native Instruments new laptop Sampler may replace his hardware sampler. I have a Native Instruments endorsement deal also and Kontakt is a great sampler so there is no point in lugging around hardware unless you are a masochist or can't deal with spontaneous computer glitches. Your back will thank you in a few years, believe me. that is so funny since I wanted some advice on a live rig I asked the two of you and you (stweart and fred) both said go with the laptop. if I remember right stewart said something like the mpc 2k was a crappy sampler. but I guess you use what you know and feel comfortable with ehh! scotto lansing, mi. ps just got my new powerbook on wednesday. now digi has to get on a os x pro tools
(313) Laura : Love Is The Message
Ani - Love Is The Message (Prescription Records) Chez Damier Ron Trent- Vocals Laura Gavoor. A blissful Emptiness invaded our Hearts as you caused us to experience in Silence the Bliss of your Divine Grace. Love for ever _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
RE: (313) The Third Wave?
And did Neil Olliviera write a book (a novel?) about Detroit techno? Yes, but Reality Slap wasn't as much about Detroit techno per se, but techno was kind of the backdrop of what was happening in the main characters social life, working with Transmat, all the music and cities (Detroit, London) references, adventures, etc. I thought it was pretty well written. Used to be available for download somewhere on the internet but not sure where anymore. If you can find it it's definitely worth reading, this might be one for the FAQ.. :) peace, Matt
