Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

[techno]

on 11/11/02 2:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


>> that was my point about elitist objecting over this idea.
> 
> For many people it's a job - and that is what it takes to stay on top. It's
> not elitist, it's survival in a crowded world.

If information on old and obsolete techno records is putting people out of
business maybe they should consider a career
change.

> regarding the whole section above:
> I don't understand. On one hand you're talking about having information put
> out there so that it's easier to find out about and those with genuine
> interest/curiosity about the music will learn about it.
> But then when you say that teaching yourself by reading about it, listening
> to DJ sets, randomly listening to old records and digging through old
> magazines is "a hastle and very time consuming."
> Who is the one with more genuine interest? The person who, without a
> one-stop shopping place for all things techno, goes out and finds out for
> themselves, dedicates time and money and goes through the "hassle" - or-
> the person who wants the quick and easy fix of finding everything in one
> place?

I like the more practical approach of acquiring information.
People would just have greater understanding of the artist and labels that
have contributed to the Detroit techno genre.

> The information I have in my head and the records I have are more important
> to me *because* I've spent sh*t loads of my time digging it all up,
> searching it out, and going through the hassle of it all.
> Sounds like you want an easy answer.
> 

It's only information what you do with it is what's important.
Besides we live in the 21st Century I like the concept of new technology
making old methods obsolete.

(313) deep & sexy.

[Anya Stang]

Was it here that some peeps were talking about deep&sexy House music?
Can't remember for sure but it was something that kept bugging me somehow...
Then there was all the talk about the fab performance Francois K put in the
other week at Plastic People (and I wasn't there : / ), and that brought it
back to me tonight. "deep and sexy" is a mix cd by Francois K on Wave Music.
I dug it out just now, and does it keep its title's promise! With songs like
Eric Kuppers presents Organika "Havana", Blue 6 "Do Ya Like It? (Body&Soul
Dub)" and Francois K "Enlightenment" 'tis indeed very tasty. Recommended.
Soz for being a tad OT (again...) but had to share that I was able to access
a small part of my memory for once. : )
Nite,

Anya

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RE: (313) new york partys???

[David Gillies]

Picking up a copy of "Time Out" from a news stand probably won't hurt you
either.

Grammenos, Peter said:
>
> too bad you won't be in town for traxx on dec 7th.
>
> there's always something good going on in nyc though,
> pick up a copy of flyer from any record shop.
>
> -p
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 8:14 PM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) new york partys???
>
>
>
> are there going to be any good NY partys around
> 27-the 1st.

RE: (313) Standing in the Shadows of Motown

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

Rob
The website is excellent http://www.soulfuldetroit.com/ - exactly what I've
been looking for. It was cool to see Jamerson Jr. sit in with the Funk
Brothers - representing his dad (and those are some big shoes to fill!).
I've always been a huge Motown fan - grew up listening to it in my mother's
kitchen when I lived in San Jose, California. Looks like I've now been
hooked into finding all the obscure and unknowns. I also hope to find the
end of the rainbow so I can use the pot of gold to pay for all my future
record purchases :)

MEK


>Actually, there were a few side houses/buildings that were used for
production for some of Gordy's sublabels of Motown. I actually had the
honor
of meeting James Jamerson's son a few years ago. He relayed this story to
me
his father once told him; that the "Hitsville" house was the major leagues
for Motown, and you worked your way up in the farm system to get a shot to
record at the W. Grand Blvd. house. Some musicians made it, others didn't.
Thank god the whole northern soul scene kept interest in the obscure alive.
We're in the middle of working on a soul/r&b guide, and I've been up to my
ears in Northern Soul comps.

>But it is so humbling, way more than anything I experienced when I first
started listening to electronic music. There was such a plethora of talent
in this town that never got proper recognition (make your connection to the
elctronic scene here) for good, honest quality songwriting.

>There's an excellent site that's been mentioned on here before,
soulfuldetroit.com. It's well worth your time if you are interested in this
era.

Rant done.

rt

RE: (313) Standing in the Shadows of Motown

[Rob Theakston]

Actually, there were a few side houses/buildings that were used for
production for some of Gordy's sublabels of Motown. I actually had the honor
of meeting James Jamerson's son a few years ago. He relayed this story to me
his father once told him; that the "Hitsville" house was the major leagues
for Motown, and you worked your way up in the farm system to get a shot to
record at the W. Grand Blvd. house. Some musicians made it, others didn't.
Thank god the whole northern soul scene kept interest in the obscure alive.
We're in the middle of working on a soul/r&b guide, and I've been up to my
ears in Northern Soul comps.

But it is so humbling, way more than anything I experienced when I first
started listening to electronic music. There was such a plethora of talent
in this town that never got proper recognition (make your connection to the
elctronic scene here) for good, honest quality songwriting.

There's an excellent site that's been mentioned on here before,
soulfuldetroit.com. It's well worth your time if you are interested in this
era.

Rant done.

rt

-Original Message-
From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:25 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Standing in the Shadows of Motown


I saw the trailer for this before Bowling for Columbine.

This will make it a Michigan three-run home run for me -- Bowling,
8 Mile and Motown.

I took my friend from SF to the Motown Museum the day after
the DEMF this year.  She thought it was amazing.  It still
amazes *me* all that music came from that one room, supported
by people working like mad in a bunch of houses down the street
from GM.

Fred

Re: (313) Standing in the Shadows of Motown

[Fred Heutte]

I saw the trailer for this before Bowling for Columbine.

This will make it a Michigan three-run home run for me -- Bowling,
8 Mile and Motown.  

I took my friend from SF to the Motown Museum the day after
the DEMF this year.  She thought it was amazing.  It still 
amazes *me* all that music came from that one room, supported 
by people working like mad in a bunch of houses down the street 
from GM.

Fred

Re: (313) nonstandard gig announcement

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

Just a note-
The Kronos Quartet performance is already sold out.

MEK




   
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Grammenos, Peter wrote:

> Steve Reich just performed "Drumming" at Cooper Union to help hype his
> "3 Tales" playing at BAM. Although i've read about his work, I have
> never heard nor seen it played live. I was taken back by it, and would
> recommend people to go check it out. Can you say human delays ?


The "human delays" referred to here has to do with the fact that the
players have to play patterns that are one or more eigth notes out of
phase with everyone else.  Furthermore, patterns often START in unison,
but then someone has to gradually (30 secs. to a minute) speed up and
then lock their pattern back into the stream a partial measure ahead.
It goes against pretty much every instinct you have about playing with
other musicians, but when you can get it to happen it's really fun and a
pretty amazing aural illusion.

--
Dennis DeSantis
www.dennisdesantis.com

Re: (313) nonstandard gig announcement

[Dennis DeSantis]

Grammenos, Peter wrote:


Steve Reich just performed "Drumming" at Cooper Union to help hype his
"3 Tales" playing at BAM. Although i've read about his work, I have
never heard nor seen it played live. I was taken back by it, and would
recommend people to go check it out. Can you say human delays ?



The "human delays" referred to here has to do with the fact that the 
players have to play patterns that are one or more eigth notes out of 
phase with everyone else.  Furthermore, patterns often START in unison, 
but then someone has to gradually (30 secs. to a minute) speed up and 
then lock their pattern back into the stream a partial measure ahead.
It goes against pretty much every instinct you have about playing with 
other musicians, but when you can get it to happen it's really fun and a 
pretty amazing aural illusion.


--
Dennis DeSantis
www.dennisdesantis.com

RE: (313) nonstandard gig announcement

[Grammenos, Peter]

Steve Reich just performed "Drumming" at Cooper Union to help hype his
"3 Tales" playing at BAM. Although i've read about his work, I have
never heard nor seen it played live. I was taken back by it, and would 
recommend people to go check it out. Can you say human delays ?

-p

-Original Message-
From: Dennis DeSantis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:43 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) nonstandard gig announcement


Hi folks,

A little shameless self-promotion here, but some of you might be interested.

This Saturday, November 16, I'll be playing percussion with a 
contemporary music ensemble called Alarm Will Sound at the Walker Art 
Center in Minneapolis.  The gig is part of a 3-day event called Festival 
Dancing in Your Head, and will also feature the Kronos Quartet.

Among other things, we're playing the complete version of Steve Reich's 
"Drumming" and Phillip Glass' "Music in Similar Motion".

The 313 connection?  For intermission and setup change music, I'll be 
doing tech-house remixes of the pieces from the concert via a laptop 
running Ableton Live.

For more info:
http://www.walkerart.org/programs/pa_prog_frcontentupco.html
http://www.alarmwillsound.com/


-- 
Dennis DeSantis
www.dennisdesantis.com

(313) nonstandard gig announcement

[Dennis DeSantis]

Hi folks,

A little shameless self-promotion here, but some of you might be interested.

This Saturday, November 16, I'll be playing percussion with a 
contemporary music ensemble called Alarm Will Sound at the Walker Art 
Center in Minneapolis.  The gig is part of a 3-day event called Festival 
Dancing in Your Head, and will also feature the Kronos Quartet.


Among other things, we're playing the complete version of Steve Reich's 
"Drumming" and Phillip Glass' "Music in Similar Motion".


The 313 connection?  For intermission and setup change music, I'll be 
doing tech-house remixes of the pieces from the concert via a laptop 
running Ableton Live.


For more info:
http://www.walkerart.org/programs/pa_prog_frcontentupco.html
http://www.alarmwillsound.com/


--
Dennis DeSantis
www.dennisdesantis.com

RE: (313) Standing in the Shadows of Motown

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

>One scene shows them putting a tune ("[Love is like a] Heat Wave")
together for Joan Osborne - instrument by instrument. Very cool!


correction - it was "I Heard it through the Grapevine" that Joan covers

RE: (313) Standing in the Shadows of Motown R.I.P.

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

I'll have to mention also Johnny Griffith, pianist, who just passed on
yesterday -
http://bassland.net/johnnygriffith.jpg

LEGENDARY MUSICIAN JOHNNY GRIFFITH OF MOTOWN'S FUNK BROTHERS DIES AT THE
AGE OF 66

At the request of the Funk Brothers we make the following announcement:

DETROIT, November 10, 2002 ? Pioneering keyboard player Johnny Griffith of
the Funk Brothers, the band that created the music of the Motown sound,
died on Sunday, November 10, 2002. He was 66 years old.

Born in Detroit, Michigan, Griffith was one of the few classically trained
musicians who played at Motown. In his early years, Johnny toured with
Sarah Vaughn, Dinah Washington and Aretha Franklin. Johnny's contributions
to music history can be heard on such songs as "Stop In The Name Of Love,"
"Wonderful One," and Marvin Gaye's "Heard It Through The Grapevine."

The Funk Brothers respectfully noted, "Johnny was a superior musician and
incredibly fluid on his instrument. He was a large contributor to the
Motown sound and to the group of musicians proudly known as the Funk
Brothers." Griffith marked a dream come true this past Thursday night by
appearing with the band during their performance at the legendary Apollo
Theatre in Harlem. The performance was part of the premiere for the launch
of Standing in the Shadows of Motown, a new film that recognizes the
achievements of the Funk Brothers.

Griffith is survived by his wife, Delma Reid Griffith, and three children,
Jonathan Jr., Beth and Rhonda. He is also survived by two step sons, Roman
and Charlie Reid III, and two grandchildren, Ronnie and Shaynae.

The Funk Brothers are the group of musicians the helped to create and
define the music of Motown. Their work can be heard on hits from such
performers as Diana Ross and the Supremes, The Temptations, Marvin Gaye,
The Four Tops, Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, and many
others. The Funk's vital influence on music remains to this day, with these
musicians having played on more number one records then The Beatles, The
Beach Boys, The Rolling Stones and Elvis Presley combined.





   
  "Rob Theakston"   
   
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second that. it's a brilliantly done movie and a chance to get some serious
education about the history of Detroit music.
i could have done without joan osborne personally, but it was amazing to
see
what became of everyone after all these years.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:05 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Standing in the Shadows of Motown


Just went to a screening of this on Saturday and it's fantastic.

It's about the The Funk Brothers- the secret behind the Motown sound
A chance to learn about some artists who for most of their lives received
little to no recognition for records that were huge hits
One scene shows them putting a tune ("[Love is like a] Heat Wave") together
for Joan Osborne - instrument by instrument. Very cool!

Each and every musician has their chance in this movie - living or dead.
It's about time a film like this was made.


R.I.P. Richard "Pistol" Allen, drummer for the Funk Brothers, who died this
year
"Pistol was the drummer on most of Holland-Dozier-Holland's hit productions
of the '60s"


http://www.standingintheshadowsofmotown.com/


MEK

RE: (313) Standing in the Shadows of Motown

[Rob Theakston]

second that. it's a brilliantly done movie and a chance to get some serious
education about the history of Detroit music.
i could have done without joan osborne personally, but it was amazing to see
what became of everyone after all these years.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:05 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Standing in the Shadows of Motown


Just went to a screening of this on Saturday and it's fantastic.

It's about the The Funk Brothers- the secret behind the Motown sound
A chance to learn about some artists who for most of their lives received
little to no recognition for records that were huge hits
One scene shows them putting a tune ("[Love is like a] Heat Wave") together
for Joan Osborne - instrument by instrument. Very cool!

Each and every musician has their chance in this movie - living or dead.
It's about time a film like this was made.


R.I.P. Richard "Pistol" Allen, drummer for the Funk Brothers, who died this
year
"Pistol was the drummer on most of Holland-Dozier-Holland's hit productions
of the '60s"


http://www.standingintheshadowsofmotown.com/


MEK

(313) Standing in the Shadows of Motown

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

Just went to a screening of this on Saturday and it's fantastic.

It's about the The Funk Brothers- the secret behind the Motown sound
A chance to learn about some artists who for most of their lives received
little to no recognition for records that were huge hits
One scene shows them putting a tune ("[Love is like a] Heat Wave") together
for Joan Osborne - instrument by instrument. Very cool!

Each and every musician has their chance in this movie - living or dead.
It's about time a film like this was made.


R.I.P. Richard "Pistol" Allen, drummer for the Funk Brothers, who died this
year
"Pistol was the drummer on most of Holland-Dozier-Holland's hit productions
of the '60s"


http://www.standingintheshadowsofmotown.com/


MEK

RE: (313) Final Scratch

[Darren Longton (Marketing)]

>From FinalScratch.com

"Q) Will there be a Macintosh version of FinalScratch?

A) We are currently developing a MAC OS X verison of Final Scratch. There is no 
release date or crossgrade process available yet." 


-Original Message-
From: scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:29 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Final Scratch


when the hell is the mac version coming out?

scotto
lansing, mi

- Original Message -
From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:47 AM
Subject: (313) Final Scratch


>From my 'Business Development Specialist' source at Jands Electronics...

> Yup, the first stocks of C-Tick Australia Approved Final Scratch units
have
> arrived and are in the process of being shipped out to Authorised Stanton
> Stockists. There are only very limited numbers of in this first shipment
so
> if you want to be one of the first Australian DJs to get your hands on it,
> call your local Stanton stockist now.

RE: (313) john tejada drum 'n' bass mix

[Darren Longton (Marketing)]

Althoughhis more 313 style releases are some [EMAIL PROTECTED] $hit!

Anyone heard "BACKSTOCK"?  If not, chk it outand ANY of his releases on 
Seventh City.

He's one of the very few from the west coast that "KNOWS".

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Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:18 PM
To: jonathan morse; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) john tejada drum 'n' bass mix


- Original Message -
From: "jonathan morse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: (313) john tejada drum 'n' bass mix


> ive been subbed on and off for the last year so I don¹t know if its been
> brought up or not but john tejada has been producing some great drum and
> bass tracks, mainly with the phunkateck collective out of san francisco.

Yeah. I was really surprised to hear a white label of one of these a little
over a year ago. It seemed to have a great techno sensibility, for whatever
that's worth. I liked it. :)

> the november mix for violent recordings is by him and available at
> http://www.violencerecordings.com/viomixtejadanov.mp3
>
> anyone who cant spot the samples in the first track should be immediately
> unsubbed ;p

LOL. Not a big fan of this one, I must say... It kind of hurts my brain.

Tristan
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Re: (313) 2 things I need to know on a Monday...

[Rc]

I've got the same wizard tape with the prince cut up on it. It's from
1986amazing stuffof course i went out and bought two copies of Kiss
after I heard it...8 years on and my cut up sounds no where near as cool


he rips through doubles of beastie boys 'brass monkey", egyptian lover,
lakeside, chip e, cybotron, adonis and he always used to play mantronix
bassline or needle on the record...

ah..what happened?

on 12/11/02 12:20 AM, Robert Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 1/ It's on this Saturday!
> 2/ I have a Wizard tape and I bought it along with an awesome Ron Hardy mix
> about 5 years ago in Ambient Soho, if my memory serves me right.
> Unfortunately it has closed down now but I'm sure you'll be able to track
> some down on the Net. The tape I have has on it a brilliant cut-up of
> Prince's Kiss, but I bet you there's loads of shows out there somewhere.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: (313) 2 things I need to know on a Monday...
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RE: (313) new york partys???

[Grammenos, Peter]

too bad you won't be in town for traxx on dec 7th.

there's always something good going on in nyc though, 
pick up a copy of flyer from any record shop.

-p

-Original Message-
From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 8:14 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) new york partys???



are there going to be any good NY partys around
27-the 1st.

ryan burns





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Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

>>That's the way it has always been...
>that was my point about elitist objecting over this idea.

For many people it's a job - and that is what it takes to stay on top. It's
not elitist, it's survival in a crowded world.

+

>> When it comes to techno there seems to be a gray area with records
falling
> into obscurity especially from the very late 80's to early 90's.
>
>
> True - it sometimes is an era that isn't easily discovered but it's not
> impossible - do the homework and you can learn about it. If it's handed
to
> you on a platter then what's the point?

well fist of all your putting infornation out there that's not easily
accesable so it's more practlicle for people who have a genuin interest and
curiosity about the music to learn about Detroit techno.
Your also archiving an important part of history in a convieniant package
for future refrence.

> I think it's more rewarding to
> teach myself by reading books, listening to DJ sets, randomly listening
to
> records in a store, digging through old magazines, etc.

certain aspects of that can be rewarding but it's mostly a hastle and very
time consuming.


regarding the whole section above:
I don't understand. On one hand you're talking about having information put
out there so that it's easier to find out about and those with genuine
interest/curiosity about the music will learn about it.
But then when you say that teaching yourself by reading about it, listening
to DJ sets, randomly listening to old records and digging through old
magazines is "a hastle and very time consuming."
Who is the one with more genuine interest? The person who, without a
one-stop shopping place for all things techno, goes out and finds out for
themselves, dedicates time and money and goes through the "hassle" - or-
the person who wants the quick and easy fix of finding everything in one
place?
The information I have in my head and the records I have are more important
to me *because* I've spent sh*t loads of my time digging it all up,
searching it out, and going through the hassle of it all.
Sounds like you want an easy answer.

MEK

Re: (313) john tejada drum 'n' bass mix

[Tristan Watkins]

- Original Message -
From: "jonathan morse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: (313) john tejada drum 'n' bass mix


> ive been subbed on and off for the last year so I don¹t know if its been
> brought up or not but john tejada has been producing some great drum and
> bass tracks, mainly with the phunkateck collective out of san francisco.

Yeah. I was really surprised to hear a white label of one of these a little
over a year ago. It seemed to have a great techno sensibility, for whatever
that's worth. I liked it. :)

> the november mix for violent recordings is by him and available at
> http://www.violencerecordings.com/viomixtejadanov.mp3
>
> anyone who cant spot the samples in the first track should be immediately
> unsubbed ;p

LOL. Not a big fan of this one, I must say... It kind of hurts my brain.

Tristan
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(313) john tejada drum 'n' bass mix

[jonathan morse]

ive been subbed on and off for the last year so I don¹t know if its been
brought up or not but john tejada has been producing some great drum and
bass tracks, mainly with the phunkateck collective out of san francisco.

the november mix for violent recordings is by him and available at
http://www.violencerecordings.com/viomixtejadanov.mp3

anyone who cant spot the samples in the first track should be immediately
unsubbed ;p

Re: (313) some sort of track id

[s mcgill]

Sorry if you already found out but I know the one you mean.

It is on Luke Solomon's Classic Records.  Cannot remember offhand who by but
it's by someone with two names. All I can remember right now.

Cheers,
Scott

- Original Message -
From: Maarten Baute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:14 AM
Subject: (313) some sort of track id


> Hi,
>
> I´ve heard a mix from gene farris, where he plays a (not so old) house
track
> that samples (almost complete) the following:
>
> "Barry Wait & Ltd - Sting - Part One"
> http://www.nuloop.com/real/Strut/strutlp020_d1.rm
>
> Anyone has an idea what it could be?
> It is in his "live @ recordtime" mix.
> He played it before "terra deva - fresh start (iz house mix)"
>
> Cheers,
> Maarten
>
>
>

(313) if you missed Adam Jay's Live PA broadcast...

[Adam Jay]

Adam Jay's LIVE PA on The Punish Techno Show, Dublin IRL  (www.powerfm.org)
has been encoded and posted for your listening pleasures at:

http://www.subterrorhq.com/azurerecords/music/AdamJayLivePaDublinNov102002.mp3

the first 2 tracks of the performance are from Adam's Primate #70 
"Naptown Renegade" release, and the various artists EP on Primate 
Endangered Species (#8) "Funky Monkeys Vol.2" respectively


when asked for a reaction of "Naptown Renegade", Dave Clarke replied by 
entering it in his chart at #1.

"Naptown Renegade" will be released on Primate Recordings on Jan.13, 2003


cheers,
Azure Records

Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

[techno]

on 11/11/02 10:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
>> In my previous post the word "elitist" was referring to the collector
> types who are not very forthcoming about information on rare and limited
> releases.
> 
> That's the way it has always been in the world of DJs and dance music -
> everyone wants that tune/record that nobody else has. I wouldn't expect
> this list to be any different.

that was my point about elitist objecting over this idea.

>> When it comes to techno there seems to be a gray area with records falling
> into obscurity especially from the very late 80's to early 90's.
> 
> 
> True - it sometimes is an era that isn't easily discovered but it's not
> impossible - do the homework and you can learn about it. If it's handed to
> you on a platter then what's the point?

well fist of all your putting infornation out there that's not easily
accesable so it's more practlicle for people who have a genuin interest and
curiosity about the music to learn about Detroit techno.
Your also archiving an important part of history in a convieniant package
for future refrence.

> I think it's more rewarding to
> teach myself by reading books, listening to DJ sets, randomly listening to
> records in a store, digging through old magazines, etc.

certain aspects of that can be rewarding but it's mostly a hastle and very
time consuming.

Re: (313) will the real Kenny Larkin please stand up

[diana potts]

 When I interviewed larkin in 96? he mentioned it too.
He's also mentioned it in other interviews. He and his
brother have since moved to California. They had a
weekly going on that was regularly posted to the list.
If you've ever seen Kenny,Kelvin(his brother), and
Deason together...you'll know it's not a far stretch
for them to do comedy.

;)
d
--- Eric Scuccimarra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been hearing this for a long, long time. It
> seems to pop-up every year 
> or so that I've been on this list which is since
> about 93 or 94 or so. I 
> have never heard of him actually performing anywhere
> though. I also have no 
> idea if there is any truth to this... I am curious
> about it, though.
> 
> At 10:23 AM 11/11/2002 -0600,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >larkin wants to do stand up?
> >
> >
> >So what's going on with this? Has he performed
> anywhere yet?
> >
> >MEK
> 


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RE: (313) 8-Mile

[T.J.Johnson]

Yeah!  Those damn 10-year-olds shouldn't be THAT
impressionable anyways!  If they don't have soul, fxck
'em!  ;)

On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Robert Taylor wrote:

> 
> If they stop listening to techno just because some
> loudmouth rapper tells
> them, then they're not really feeling it are they?
Good
> riddance to them
> IMHO. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:32 PM
> To: Robert Taylor
> Cc: 313 Detroit
> Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile
> 
> 
> 
> Well - maybe because they don't have as much influence
> on youngsters as
> Eminem does. How many people might actually be just
> getting in to techno
> but stop because he has spoken, or might have been
open
> to it until now. I
> don't recall Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer ever
publicly
> dismissing techno
> in a song either - at least one that get national
> airplay.
> 
> not that concerned really
> MEK
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>   Robert Taylor
> 
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
> "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> 
>   4.co.uk> 
Cyclone
> Wehner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
 
> 
>cc:   
 
>  313 Detroit
> <313@hyperreal.org>  
 
>   
>   11/11/02 09:50 AM   
Subject:
>  RE: (313) 8-Mile
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much
> about what Eminem
> thinks
> about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't
> ponder over whether
> Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
> To: Cyclone Wehner
> Cc: 313 Detroit
> Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile
> 
> 
> 
> >He says it's his personal taste - not that he's
> 'anti-techno' just that he
> never got into it.
> 
> So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody
> listens to techno"? That
> to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his
> personal taste.
> 
> Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a
> funny line and a hot
> tune.
> 
> MEK
> 
> 
> 
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RE: (313) 8-Mile

[Robert Taylor]

If they stop listening to techno just because some loudmouth rapper tells
them, then they're not really feeling it are they? Good riddance to them
IMHO. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:32 PM
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile



Well - maybe because they don't have as much influence on youngsters as
Eminem does. How many people might actually be just getting in to techno
but stop because he has spoken, or might have been open to it until now. I
don't recall Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer ever publicly dismissing techno
in a song either - at least one that get national airplay.

not that concerned really
MEK



 

  Robert Taylor

  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
"'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

  4.co.uk>  Cyclone Wehner
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  11/11/02 09:50 AMSubject:  RE: (313) 8-Mile

 

 





I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much about what Eminem
thinks
about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't ponder over whether
Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Cyclone Wehner
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile



>He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he
never got into it.

So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody listens to techno"? That
to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his personal taste.

Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a funny line and a hot
tune.

MEK



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Re: (313) will the real Kenny Larkin please stand up

[Eric Scuccimarra]

I've been hearing this for a long, long time. It seems to pop-up every year 
or so that I've been on this list which is since about 93 or 94 or so. I 
have never heard of him actually performing anywhere though. I also have no 
idea if there is any truth to this... I am curious about it, though.


At 10:23 AM 11/11/2002 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>larkin wants to do stand up?


So what's going on with this? Has he performed anywhere yet?

MEK

(313) seattle

[jdmorse]

i know its kinda early but im gonna be in seattle with my girlfriend 28 dec 
- 04 jan. 

can any of the seattleites on the list hit me back with places to go, good 
eats, nye shindigs, etc...? 



danke.

RE: (313) 8-Mile

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

Well - maybe because they don't have as much influence on youngsters as
Eminem does. How many people might actually be just getting in to techno
but stop because he has spoken, or might have been open to it until now. I
don't recall Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer ever publicly dismissing techno
in a song either - at least one that get national airplay.

not that concerned really
MEK




   
  Robert Taylor 
   
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  
  4.co.uk>  Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL 
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I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much about what Eminem
thinks
about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't ponder over whether
Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Cyclone Wehner
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile



>He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he
never got into it.

So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody listens to techno"? That
to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his personal taste.

Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a funny line and a hot
tune.

MEK



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(313) will the real Kenny Larkin please stand up

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

>larkin wants to do stand up?


So what's going on with this? Has he performed anywhere yet?

MEK

Re: (313) nude photo/ Transmat label design

[techno]

on 11/11/02 9:47 AM, techno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Whos responsibel for the Tinespace Tour design on mp3.com?
> 
> I would to have a poster of that

http://pages.prodigy.net/stevepwats/images/1681679.jpg

Re: (313) nude photo/ Transmat label design

[techno]

I never heard the Tom Barnett version.
I like how Nude Photo was mastered on vynil, it has a nice warm sound.
The old Transamt logo is one of my favorite record label designs.

http://pages.prodigy.net/stevepwats/images/ms002a.gif

http://pages.prodigy.net/stevepwats/images/translogo.jpg

Whos responsibel for the Tinespace Tour design on mp3.com?

I would to have a poster of that

on 11/11/02 3:04 AM, Niko Tzoukmanis at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> speaking of nude photo, a month ago
> i've been to sonic groove and found
> that version by tom barnett himself
> on prime called 'my nude photo' at
> a bargain price, must say i even like
> it a bit more than the original

RE: (313) 8-Mile

[T.J.Johnson]

Well, someone early-on mentioned that it is a great
movie even though he disses techno.  Then someone else
mentioned that he didn't dis techno, but he did dis
Moby.  That's how the discussion came about...


On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Ian wrote:

> 
> Amen to that.
> 
> Im also a little puzzled that no one has mentioned
the 
> attention that this movie is bringing to the city.
> Yeah, 
> people are crying that it makes the city look like a
> "prison."
> But as someone who has seen the film, I thought
Detroit 
> looked like Detroit, and it was actually kind of cool
> sitting 
> in a major theater going, "Wow, I know where that
is..."
> And the fact that he has said in interviews that his
> purpose 
> in the movie was to show the world the real Detroit 
> transcends whatever his opinion on techno is. 
> 
> ID
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> >Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:50:38 -
> >From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> >Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile  
> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cyclone Wehner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
> >
> >I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much
> about 
> what Eminem thinks
> >about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't
> ponder 
> over whether
> >Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
> >To: Cyclone Wehner
> >Cc: 313 Detroit
> >Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile
> >
> >
> >
> >>He says it's his personal taste - not that he's
'anti-
> techno' just that he
> >never got into it.
> >
> >So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody
> listens 
> to techno"? That
> >to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his
> personal 
> taste.
> >
> >Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a
> funny 
> line and a hot
> >tune.
> >
> >MEK
> >
> >
> >
> >Any views or opinions are solely those of the author
> and do 
> not necessarily
> >represent those of Channel Four Television
Corporation 
> unless specifically
> >stated.  This email and any files transmitted are 
> confidential and intended
> >solely for the use of the individual or entity to
> which they 
> are addressed.
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notify
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> >
> >

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Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

>In my previous post the word "elitist" was referring to the collector
types who are not very forthcoming about information on rare and limited
releases.

That's the way it has always been in the world of DJs and dance music -
everyone wants that tune/record that nobody else has. I wouldn't expect
this list to be any different.

>When it comes to techno there seems to be a gray area with records falling
into obscurity especially from the very late 80's to early 90's.


True - it sometimes is an era that isn't easily discovered but it's not
impossible - do the homework and you can learn about it. If it's handed to
you on a platter then what's the point? I think it's more rewarding to
teach myself by reading books, listening to DJ sets, randomly listening to
records in a store, digging through old magazines, etc.

MEK






   
  techno
   
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  gy.net>  cc:  
   
   Subject:  Re: (313) 8-Mile - 
Detroit music history  
  11/10/02 01:33 AM 
   

   

   




In my previous post the word "elitist" was referring to the collector types
who are not very forthcoming about information on
rare and
limited releases.
I was suggesting something like a DVD archive for listing singles, promos,
remixes, un-released tracks, ect. from well known
to the lesser know Detroit artist and labels.
When it comes to techno there seems to be a gray area with records falling
into obscurity especially from the very late 80's to
early 90's.
To give you example sometimes when going through old dance music magazines
like Art Payne's column in Streetsounds magazine I'll see a review of a
record that I never
knew existed or maybe mention of a short lived Detroit techno label.

Lets take this review by Josh Tearnan, The Vibe Magazine:

Images - "The Keys to Heaven/" It's Just a Groove" (Siren Records)

With the people producing this record, it's bound to be big Santonio (of
Resses & Santonio fame) Art Forest (remixer of Inner City), and Brian Hall.
The A side, featuring vocals by Mischivous, has three mixes. The best is
the
club mix; it's classic inner city style, complete with backtracked beats
and
pumpin' keyboards. There are even samples from Martin Luther King's famous
speech.
The B side is also a prime cut. The only problem with this record is
deciding which cut is better.

on 11/9/02 12:21 PM, marc christensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> dear "techno" --
>
> It's nice to see you can couple a good, fresh insight to a troll.
> Because you're right -- the old-school elitism of the NW side GQ
> cliques was very palpable, and has been documented well in interview
> sources.
>
> Your reminder even makes the self-justifying marginalization of
> disagreement implicit in your original post much more bearable.
>
> But doesn't this also mean it would be more "Detroit techno" of us
> not only to disagree, but also to withhold more information?
>
> If so, I will continue to do so, and shut up now.
> -marc
>
>
> At 6:46 PM -0600 11/8/02, techno wrote:
>> Of coure the elitist will disagree with me on this.
>
> At 8:38 PM -0500 11/8/02, Lee Herrington IV wrote:
>> does the elitist post to this list?
>
> At 11:05 AM -0600 11/9/02, techno wrote:
>> Yes and they do not always share information.
>> Elitism has always been a part of Detroit techno and underground dance
music
>> culture a social and political aspect to the
>> music.

RE: (313) 8-Mile

[Darren Longton (Marketing)]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

-Original Message-
From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:56 AM
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile


Amen to that.

Im also a little puzzled that no one has mentioned the 
attention that this movie is bringing to the city. Yeah, 
people are crying that it makes the city look like a "prison."
But as someone who has seen the film, I thought Detroit 
looked like Detroit, and it was actually kind of cool sitting 
in a major theater going, "Wow, I know where that is..."
And the fact that he has said in interviews that his purpose 
in the movie was to show the world the real Detroit 
transcends whatever his opinion on techno is. 

ID


 Original message 
>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:50:38 -
>From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile  
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" , Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
>
>I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much about 
what Eminem thinks
>about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't ponder 
over whether
>Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
>To: Cyclone Wehner
>Cc: 313 Detroit
>Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile
>
>
>
>>He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-
techno' just that he
>never got into it.
>
>So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody listens 
to techno"? That
>to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his personal 
taste.
>
>Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a funny 
line and a hot
>tune.
>
>MEK
>
>
>
>Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do 
not necessarily
>represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation 
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>stated.  This email and any files transmitted are 
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>solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they 
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RE: (313) 8-Mile

[Robert Taylor]

He did something vaguely electronic with Death In Vegas a few years ago -
Ayesha I think it was called - the best track on their Contino Sessions
album at any rate.

-Original Message-
From: FC2 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:59 PM
To: 'Robert Taylor'
Cc: '313@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile


I wonder if Iggy Pop likes Techno...he's not your conventional rocker
either, though...

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:51 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Cyclone Wehner
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile


I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much about what Eminem thinks
about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't ponder over whether
Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Cyclone Wehner
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile



>He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he
never got into it.

So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody listens to techno"? That
to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his personal taste.

Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a funny line and a hot
tune.

MEK



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(313) strictly OT - speaking of cooper

[Mislav Bobic]

been recently in cinema here in Moscow and bumped into ol' pal Cooper. movie
in question was Signs with Mel Gibson.

to stay on topic - he liked the movie (though made no comments over techno
at all) !



- Original Message -
From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cyclone Wehner"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:50
Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile


> I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much about what Eminem
thinks
> about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't ponder over whether
> Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
> To: Cyclone Wehner
> Cc: 313 Detroit
> Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile
>
>
>
> >He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that
he
> never got into it.
>
> So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody listens to techno"?
That
> to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his personal taste.
>
> Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a funny line and a hot
> tune.
>
> MEK
>
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RE: (313) 8-Mile

[FC2 Richards]

I wonder if Iggy Pop likes Techno...he's not your conventional rocker
either, though...

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:51 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Cyclone Wehner
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile


I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much about what Eminem thinks
about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't ponder over whether
Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Cyclone Wehner
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile



>He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he
never got into it.

So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody listens to techno"? That
to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his personal taste.

Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a funny line and a hot
tune.

MEK



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RE: (313) 8-Mile

[Ian]

Amen to that.

Im also a little puzzled that no one has mentioned the 
attention that this movie is bringing to the city. Yeah, 
people are crying that it makes the city look like a "prison."
But as someone who has seen the film, I thought Detroit 
looked like Detroit, and it was actually kind of cool sitting 
in a major theater going, "Wow, I know where that is..."
And the fact that he has said in interviews that his purpose 
in the movie was to show the world the real Detroit 
transcends whatever his opinion on techno is. 

ID


 Original message 
>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:50:38 -
>From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile  
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" , Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
>
>I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much about 
what Eminem thinks
>about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't ponder 
over whether
>Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
>To: Cyclone Wehner
>Cc: 313 Detroit
>Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile
>
>
>
>>He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-
techno' just that he
>never got into it.
>
>So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody listens 
to techno"? That
>to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his personal 
taste.
>
>Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a funny 
line and a hot
>tune.
>
>MEK
>
>
>
>Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do 
not necessarily
>represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation 
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Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

And maybe someone can answer my original question?

I'm looking for books that cover the history of Detroit music beyond (but
not excluding) techno -

maybe "Dancing in the Streets"?  Any others?

elitists need not answer  ;)

MEK




   
  Dan Sicko 
   
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   marc christensen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   
  .org>cc:   techno <[EMAIL 
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   Subject:  Re: (313) 8-Mile - 
Detroit music history  
  11/09/02 01:57 PM 
   

   

   




Can we move this discussion to the 313-elite mailing list please?

I believe the server forwards messages on a wireless network inside
Lafayette Coney Island.

-d

On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 01:21 PM, marc christensen wrote:

> dear "techno" --
>
> It's nice to see you can couple a good, fresh insight to a troll.
> Because you're right -- the old-school elitism of the NW side GQ
> cliques was very palpable, and has been documented well in interview
> sources.
>
> Your reminder even makes the self-justifying marginalization of
> disagreement implicit in your original post much more bearable.
>
> But doesn't this also mean it would be more "Detroit techno" of us not
> only to disagree, but also to withhold more information?
>
> If so, I will continue to do so, and shut up now.
> -marc
>
>
> At 6:46 PM -0600 11/8/02, techno wrote:
>> Of coure the elitist will disagree with me on this.
>
> At 8:38 PM -0500 11/8/02, Lee Herrington IV wrote:
>>   does the elitist post to this list?
>
> At 11:05 AM -0600 11/9/02, techno wrote:
>> Yes and they do not always share information.
>> Elitism has always been a part of Detroit techno and underground
>> dance music
>> culture a social and political aspect to the
>> music.
>
>

Re: (313) 2 things I need to know on a Monday...

[Ian]

On 11/11/02 8:14 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2) There's been quite a bit of talk on the list lately about the
> Mojo/Wizard/DeepSpace radio shows. Does anyone know where I could get some
> old mojo/deep space tapes from?

I am in the process of encoding two DeepSpace shows from 1996.  When I have
the files, and a place to post them, I'll let the list know.
--
im

RE: (313) 8-Mile

[Robert Taylor]

I am a little puzzled about why 313ers care so much about what Eminem thinks
about techno. He's from Detroit, yeah, but we don't ponder over whether
Alice Cooper or Wayne Kramer dig techno, do we?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Cyclone Wehner
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile



>He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he
never got into it.

So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody listens to techno"? That
to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his personal taste.

Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a funny line and a hot
tune.

MEK



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Re: (313) 8-Mile

[Michael . Elliot-Knight]

>He says it's his personal taste - not that he's 'anti-techno' just that he
never got into it.

So why the perceivably universal diss that "nobody listens to techno"? That
to me sounds like he's stating something beyond his personal taste.

Just playing the devil's advocate - I think it's a funny line and a hot
tune.

MEK

RE: (313) 8-Mile

[logic7]

He's been doing some production since "The Marshall Mathers LP". Dre is
usually behind the stuff that hits the radio (he's the "executive" producer
on the 3 albums Em did on Aftermath). "The Slim Shady LP" was produced
almost entirely by The Bass Brothers, with the exception of the radio cuts.
"The Eminem Show" has a lot more of his own production on it. I'm not sure
who produced Em's first album, "Infinite", but I think I remember hearing
that it was The Bass Brothers.

-Original Message-
From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:58 AM
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile


>Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack
were really good.

Did he actually DO the production?  I've always heard that DRE did all the
beats...?

Re: (313) Final Scratch

[scotto]

when the hell is the mac version coming out?

scotto
lansing, mi

- Original Message -
From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:47 AM
Subject: (313) Final Scratch


>From my 'Business Development Specialist' source at Jands Electronics...

> Yup, the first stocks of C-Tick Australia Approved Final Scratch units
have
> arrived and are in the process of being shipped out to Authorised Stanton
> Stockists. There are only very limited numbers of in this first shipment
so
> if you want to be one of the first Australian DJs to get your hands on it,
> call your local Stanton stockist now.

Fwd: (313) X-102 Rings of Saturn / Submerge

[- BT -]

Ive made a couple of orders from Submerge since its relaunch and it took 
about 3-4 weeks to get to Scotland.


Cheers
BT



Hi,
i dunno if this has been covered before but can someone tell me the
difference between the cd release and the vinyl one in terms of numbers of
track or the tracks themselves?

I also want to ask the other fellow europeans how have ordered from 
Submerge

how much it takes for the package to arrive from them.

thanks
fab.



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RE: (313) 8-Mile

[Ja'Maul Redmond]

Actually he's writing some of his own stuff now. The movie gives him credit
for original music or score or something like that. 

Anyway, I liked the movie and I agree with the movie critics it's the 2000's
version of Purple Rain. I didn't read this reference until after I saw the
movie but during the whole movie my girlfriend and I were saying that it
reminds us of purple rain.


Ja'Maul Redmond

PERKINS & WILL
1130 East Third Street, Suite 200 
Charlotte, North Carolina 28204

(704) 343-9900 
(704) 343-4935 ext.202(direct) 
(704) 343- (fax) 
jamaul.redmond @perkinswill.com 
http://www.perkinswill.com/ 

 


-Original Message-
From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:58 AM
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile


>Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack
were really good.

Did he actually DO the production?  I've always heard that DRE did all the
beats...?


-Original Message-
From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:17 AM
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile


I have an interview CD from Universal Music and he elaborates and says he 
never liked techno, and remembers it all over Detroit radio, etc, so he
knows what he's talking about. He says it's his personal taste - not that
he's 'anti-techno' just that he never got into it.
It's a shame he can't differentiate Moby from Mills, but...
Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack
were really good.


> Inbox Message 
>
> From:  "T.J.Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  Re: (313) 8-Mile
> Date:  09/11/2002 12:24:33
> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
>
> yeah, but he's referring to Moby, so I don't know if he
> even knows that he is not dissing techno...
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: (313) 8-Mile

[Darren Longton (Marketing)]

>Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack
were really good.

Did he actually DO the production?  I've always heard that DRE did all the 
beats...?


-Original Message-
From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:17 AM
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile


I have an interview CD from Universal Music and he elaborates and says he 
never liked techno, and remembers it all over Detroit radio, etc, so he
knows what he's talking about. He says it's his personal taste - not that
he's 'anti-techno' just that he never got into it.
It's a shame he can't differentiate Moby from Mills, but...
Have to give Eminem props for his production, his beats on that soundtrack
were really good.


> Inbox Message 
>
> From:  "T.J.Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  Re: (313) 8-Mile
> Date:  09/11/2002 12:24:33
> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
>
> yeah, but he's referring to Moby, so I don't know if he
> even knows that he is not dissing techno...
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: (313) 2 things I need to know on a Monday...

[Robert Taylor]

1/ It's on this Saturday!
2/ I have a Wizard tape and I bought it along with an awesome Ron Hardy mix
about 5 years ago in Ambient Soho, if my memory serves me right.
Unfortunately it has closed down now but I'm sure you'll be able to track
some down on the Net. The tape I have has on it a brilliant cut-up of
Prince's Kiss, but I bet you there's loads of shows out there somewhere.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:14 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) 2 things I need to know on a Monday...


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2) There's been quite a bit of talk on the list lately about the
Mojo/Wizard/DeepSpace radio shows. Does anyone know where I could get some
old mojo/deep space tapes from? I'm willing to trade/pay for them

Thanks.

Alex.


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(313) 2 things I need to know on a Monday...

[alex . bond]

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

Hello.

2 things;

1) London peeps - how did the Slices party go?

2) There's been quite a bit of talk on the list lately about the
Mojo/Wizard/DeepSpace radio shows. Does anyone know where I could get some
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(313) X-102 Rings of Saturn / Submerge

[Fabrizio Nahum]

Hi,
i dunno if this has been covered before but can someone tell me the
difference between the cd release and the vinyl one in terms of numbers of
track or the tracks themselves?

I also want to ask the other fellow europeans how have ordered from Submerge
how much it takes for the package to arrive from them.

thanks
fab.

(313) Rhythm & Sound: Aground/Aerial

[Ivan Tomasevic]

i need a review of this record. is it as good as their previous releases ?
is it beat driven, or is it more like ambient dub?

thanks

ivan

-- 

(313) Fw: Perspects Review Copies *AMENDED*

[Tom Robbins/Magic Feet]

ARTIST: PERSPECTS
TITLE: THE THIRD AND FINAL REPORT
LABEL: INTERDIMENSIONAL
TRANSMISSIONS
FORMAT: 12" VINYL
RELEASE DATE: 13 JANUARY 2003

IT continues its journey into indivualistic and adventurous electronic
music, creating the standards of the future. IT 19 finds Ian Clark in his
debut appearance on Interdimensional Transmissions. Ian co-founded Le Car
and helped bring new obsessions to Detroit Electro, influencing all that
come after. After forming Perspects and releasing music on Ersatz Audio and
Clone as well his submission for Disco Nouveau, Ian finally goes solo and is
his own voice. The result? Devastation.  Perspects' best record to date.
'The Third and Final Report' includes the soon to be classic 'Accumulators'.
Full Length & Rmx 12 due in 2003.

In his own words:

Air of Finality:
The rocker. Out of a menacing, restarting intro emerge goosestepping synths
and bullhorn voices to set the paranoid tone of the release. An analysis of
mass quiet panic set to sleazy, eighth-note punch & crunch.

Comfort Gained:
My current favourite. Sparse, eerie synths and claustrophobic vocals record
the final moments of a modern man as he decides to capitalize on the
acceptance of his fate.

Gimme Panic:
Just what it says - Doomsday disco that suggests a human stampede, and other
chaotic descents.

The Accumulators:
The popsong. The line: "we're accumulating" refers to both consumers losing
control and corpses piling up. Subtle differences in the two verses create a
cause/effect dialogue that supports this. You can dance to it too.

Statement concerning the Third and Final Report of Perspects:

In 'Desire and Efficiency' the warnings were there. It was the soundtrack to
our surrender to the uncertain velocities. The point where vigilance falls
victim to comfort and the surface suddenly seems more real.
Hoverculture was inevitable. Total seduction by surface. Songs became empty
signifiers efficiently packaged for consumption. Anaesthetic and
disassociative, it hadn't entirely worn off when the panic hit.
Now the powermad have seized control and are steering us into a crash. Now
we are taking hits to the fragile framework of finance and energy that
sustains us. Never have we been more aware of our mortality than right now.
This is why the Third and Final Report is necessary.

I.T. is a label that doesn't just release records, it releases milestones -
from the 'Visionary From Beyond' series that debuted I-F's 'Space Invaders'
to the world, to the early Ectomorph relics that still set the standard.
Coming soon from the label are full lengths from G.D Luxxe (IT 16) and
Ectomorph (IT 18).

Perspects: Shouldn't you be paying attention?

(313) Fw: Sunglasses At Night returns on 28th Nov

[Tom Robbins/Magic Feet]

> PLEASE FORWARD >
> 
>
>  WE'RE BACK
>
>    ^  
>   \ SUNGLASSES/
> \  AT NIGHT  /
>--
>
> in this mail:
> - news
> - forthcoming dates
> - playlist
>
> ^^
>
> SUNGLASSES AT NIGHT
>
> An evening of new & old synth pop, electro,
> synthetic disco & ersatz funk through a wide-angle lens
>
> Fortnightly Thursdays
> @ Junktion 7
> above Bar Seven
> Canning Circus
> Nottingham
> 8-12pm
> FREE ENTRY
>
> Hosts: Tom Magic Feet
> & New Wave Dave
>
> ^^
>
> Sunglasses At Night, the only night of its kind in Nottingham & the
> Midlands, returns on 28th November to take up a new residency at a new
> venue, Junktion 7.
>
> Junktion 7 is a great little spot just 10 mins walk from the centre of
> Nottingham and 5 mins from our previous venue, Moog. Compact and cosy, and
> featuring a crispy 3K Pro Logic sound system, in-house slide projectors
and
> even a mirrorball, Junktion 7 is the perfect environment for [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]'s unique
> musical blend and sociable, informal atmosphere. And with free entry and
> double spirits at £2, it's an undeniably cheap night out, too.
>
> We've got some great guests and nights planned for next year, but first of
> all there's the small matter of the end of 2002 to see to.
>
> ^^
>
> Re-opening night!
> *Thursday 28th November
> With special guest DJ
> MAT CARTER
> [Dedbeat/Haywire/Checkpoint Charlie/Varial Recs.]
> + TMF & NWD
>
> Electro specialist Mat has been DJing around the country for the last 9
> years and is mostly known for his involvement with the legendary
Checkpoint
> Charlie club in Reading, the Dedbeat Weekender and the Haywire
organisation,
> where he resides alongside the likes of Andrew Weatherall and Keith
> Tenniswood. His studio productions have been brewing for the last 4 years
> and have finally borne fruit in the last year with 12"s on Firewire and
> Sprungkartellwachs. He also recently co-wrote a track for the Wipeout
Fusion
> Playstation 2 game under the name of Intuitive and has a track on the next
> Scopex release. In December he'll drop the 'Zark EP', his first release on
> his own new Varial label.
>
> ^^
>
> *Thursday 12th December
> With special guest DJ
> ED DMX
> [DMX Krew/Breakin'/Gigolo/Rephlex]
> + NWD & TMF
>
> A key figure on the electropop scene, Ed was our first guest at [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] and
> since that night was such a success we figured he was the perfect choice
to
> close out 2002 for us. Last time was packed, so we're expecting a great
> night this time around. Don't miss it!
>
> ^^
>
> [Thurs 26th Dec - Boxing Day - NO [EMAIL PROTECTED] EVENT]
>
> ^^
>
> 2003 DATES FOR YOUR DIARY
>
> ^^
>
> *Thursday 9th January
> Rescheduled!
> Marking a quarter of a century of Trans Europe Express
> A tribute to KRAFTWERK
> Pure Werkmusik all night long with special guest DJ
> THE EQUALISER
> + NWD & TMF
>
> ^^
>
> *Thursday 23rd January
> with TMF & NWD
>
> ^^
>
> *Thursday 6th February
> the Sunglasses At Night 1st Birthday Event
>
> ^^
>
> And finally, a list of new Sunglasses-friendly records:
>
> *Ectomorph: Dada (Interdimensional Transmissions 12")
> *Transparent Sound: Emotional Amputation (Electrix LP)
> *Transllusion: Third Eye EP (Rephlex 12")
> *Egyptian Empire: The Horn Track [Luke Slater's 10 year anniversary remix]
> (Missile 12")
> *Kylie Minogue: Come Into My World [Fischerspooner mix] (Parlophone 7")
> *Mat Carter: Zark EP (Varial 12")
> *Disco Nouveau: Addendum [Legowelt/DMX Krew/Volga Select/Charles Manier]
> (Ghostly International 12")
> *The Youngsters: Confidential Music (F Comm 12")
> *Radio 4: Dance To The Underground [DFA/Playgroup mixes] (City Slang)
> *Ed Laliq: Clean/Ride (High Society 7")
> *The Black Neon: Your Sex Life (Memphis Industries)
> *Add N To (X): Loud Like Nature (Mute LP)
> *Martini Bros: My Biggest Fan [Black Strobe mix] (Turbo 12")
> *FPU: Racer Car [Tiga mix] (Turbo 12")
> *New Order: Confusion [Larry Tee/Junior Sanchez mixes] (Whacked 12")
> *Rocket: People [Rob Mello mix] (NRK 12")
> *Fischerspooner: The 15th [Felix Da Housecat mix] (FS Studios 12")
> *Water Lilly: Sweet Aberration EP (Mental Groove 12")
> *Rocketmann: Black Hole (PIAS 12")
> *Percy X: On A Day [remix] (Soma 12")
> *Valvola: Plug-In City Universe (S.H.A.D.O. 12")
> *Technasia: Crosswalk [Funk D'Void recreation] (Technasia)
> *Rude Ass Tinker: Get Wicked / Flying Kylies: Can't Get Money Out Of My
Head
> (Planet Mu Criminal 02 12")
>
> ^^
>
> Please forward this mail to anyone you think may be interes

Re: (313) Saunderson - Powerbass

[P dircon]

I have seen a released copy..  It looks like  'feel the mood'  in white
w/black text

> 
> incognito records
> that's the one
> 
> was promo only
> 
> two years ago, re-released on sonic groove (sg-019)
> 
> 
> 
> At 9-11-2002 -0500 21:25, you wrote:
>> Just found a white label at a flea market for $3. :D
>> 
>> Question is... what label was this released on?
>> the matrix reads IR-007
>> IR doesn't ring a bell at the moment.
>> 
>> G
> 
> 
> 

(313) Ghettotech visits yo 'burgh...

[Langsman, Marc]

Just a headz-up for all you scottish 313 ghetto kidz 


:: Saturday, December 7th -- Edinburgh ::

:: Club Digital presents from Detroit  ::

-- The Venue, Carlton Road, Edinburgh

-- Lineup: DJ Dijital, DJ Deburgh (313er)

-- 10pm-3am :: £8/£7 members


peace,
Marc

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Re: (313) Saunderson - Powerbass

[marsel]

incognito records
that's the one

was promo only

two years ago, re-released on sonic groove (sg-019)



At 9-11-2002 -0500 21:25, you wrote:

Just found a white label at a flea market for $3. :D

Question is... what label was this released on?
the matrix reads IR-007
IR doesn't ring a bell at the moment.

G

(313) nude photo

[Niko Tzoukmanis]

speaking of nude photo, a month ago
i've been to sonic groove and found
that version by tom barnett himself
on prime called 'my nude photo' at
a bargain price, must say i even like
it a bit more than the original


- Original Message -
From: techno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Saunderson - Powerbass


> nice find.
> I once found Nude Photo with the sliver and blue Transmat record emblom at
a
> flea market for $1.00
>
> on 11/9/02 8:25 PM, Gerald at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Just found a white label at a flea market for $3. :D
> >
> > Question is... what label was this released on?
> > the matrix reads IR-007
> > IR doesn't ring a bell at the moment.
> >
> > G
>

RE: (313) Elitism

[Odeluga, Ken]

Jason Hogans:

But
>anyway, a person should never have to endure being chuckled or

>snarled @ for
>inquiring who someone is, or what their contributions are to the
>tiny little
>electronic music universe, sheesh!

-Interesting. Got a flash of recognition on reading that. Of course it wd be
speculation to suggest it was the same person, but I *did* have a similar
experience. Ah well, some [EMAIL PROTECTED] make some great music!
k

(313) Fw: SWEAT f/ Laurent Garnier, Sat. Nov. 30 -- DETROIT

[webmaster]

- Original Message -
From: "keleigh casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:11 PM
Subject: SWEAT f/ Laurent Garnier, Sat. Nov. 30 -- DETROIT


> can you forward this to the 313? thanks, k
>
> Saturday, November 30, 2002
> Mixworks and Johanson Charles Gallery present:
>
> SWEAT (work off that turkey!)
>
> Laurent Garnier (F.Communication/Paris)
> Mike Huckaby (Deep Transportation/Detroit)
> Buzz Goree (Underground Resistance/Detroit)
> and everyone's favorite deeptechnician KAKU!
>
> Doors at 10pm/$10 before 11 p.m.
> Johanson Charles Gallery
> 1345 Division, Eastern Market, Detroit
> info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sponsored by Submerge, Record Time, motormouth.org, Motor City Brewing
Works
> and Metro Times.
>
> For those of you at the summer birthday bash with Norm Talley and KDJ, you
> know what to expect!!
>
>
>
>
>
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(313) new york partys???

[ryan burns]

are there going to be any good NY partys around
27-the 1st.

ryan burns





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