RE: (313) Tektite and Mad Monkey records

2003-02-14 Thread Matthew MacQueen

> and if you want more info on merrick brown, he has his own website.. 
> http://www.merrickbrown.net

Merrick used to be an active member of 313... he is missed.  The kid can MIX!!  
and a really nice guy to boot.  Didn't he start up another list or something?  
Reminds me to dig up my old Tektite records... Stewart Walker and Chis Gray 
from 1998, etc.

peace,
Matt MacQueen


Re: (313) Re: (tech-house) Bad music...Good people!

2003-02-14 Thread g
- Original Message -
From: "Dennis DeSantis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:31 PM
Subject: (313) Re: (tech-house) Bad music...Good people!

> Phil Williams wrote:
> >
> > If you're a performer, you are a focus for people, and you have to be at
> > least civil to everyone... regardless of how many times you've been
> > approached, or how whacked out you are after playing 150 gigs on the
hop...
>
> Anecdote:
>
> Sometimes, for whatever reason, I get booked to play live sets where I'm
> sandwiched in between bone-crushingly brutal techno djs.  If you know my
> music, you'll realize immediately that this is going to set up some
> cognitive dissonance problems - next to 3 hours of 140bpm loop techno,
> my music sounds kind of like "West Side Story."
> And inevitably, someone always comes up to me during my set and asks me
> to play something harder.  Last month at SO 36 I had a girl THROW BALLS
> OF PAPER at me to get my attention, so she could tell me to play harder.
> But I always stay cool - I politely explain that I'm doing a live set,
> not a DJ set, and that I only have my own music and this is pretty much
> what it sounds like.
> I see my role as a performer as one of servant, not as idol.  If someone
> wants to talk to me, critically or complimentarily, I'm more than
> willing to listen.  That's part of my job.
>
> My $.02,
> --
> Dennis DeSantis
> www.dennisdesantis.com

reminds me of a funny story: time before last that hawtin was here in LA i
was standing next to him as my buddy notices this guy trying to give richie
hand-written notes on 3x5 cards... "where is your 909?", "do a 16-bar
breakdown".  what?

wallet, check.  ID, check. car keys, check.  3x5 cards and pencil so I can
give the DJ notes, check.



(313) Re: (tech-house) Bad music...Good people!

2003-02-14 Thread Dennis DeSantis



Phil Williams wrote:


If you're a performer, you are a focus for people, and you have to be at
least civil to everyone... regardless of how many times you've been
approached, or how whacked out you are after playing 150 gigs on the hop...


Anecdote:

Sometimes, for whatever reason, I get booked to play live sets where I'm 
sandwiched in between bone-crushingly brutal techno djs.  If you know my 
music, you'll realize immediately that this is going to set up some 
cognitive dissonance problems - next to 3 hours of 140bpm loop techno, 
my music sounds kind of like "West Side Story."
And inevitably, someone always comes up to me during my set and asks me 
to play something harder.  Last month at SO 36 I had a girl THROW BALLS 
OF PAPER at me to get my attention, so she could tell me to play harder.
But I always stay cool - I politely explain that I'm doing a live set, 
not a DJ set, and that I only have my own music and this is pretty much 
what it sounds like.
I see my role as a performer as one of servant, not as idol.  If someone 
wants to talk to me, critically or complimentarily, I'm more than 
willing to listen.  That's part of my job.


My $.02,
--
Dennis DeSantis
www.dennisdesantis.com



Re: (313) Tektite and Mad Monkey records

2003-02-14 Thread Cyhl

heyhey, we're talking downtempo around here too ? cool..

I second what dennis says about lusine icl !

and if you want more info on merrick brown, he has his own website.. 
http://www.merrickbrown.net

you'll find some info on him and a bunch of his dj sets !

cyhl

http://www.dreamlabrecords.com
http://www.bastardjazz.com


Dennis DeSantis wrote:




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Lusine icl




anyone heard of these artists?
what are they like?




I can't speak for the others, but Lusine ICL put out a record that 
absolutely blew me away last year, called "Iron City."  It's 
broken-beat stuff primarily, but with a really sensitive ear for 
harmony and detail.  Absolutely gorgeous.  I can't recommend it enough.







Re: (313) Tektite and Mad Monkey records

2003-02-14 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

RE:

 I was looking up info on Mad Monkey records because that side was so good

 http://www.madmonkey.org/

 alas - no sound files to be found

Found some - hidden here and there.

cool stuff

MEK




Re: (313) Tektite and Mad Monkey records

2003-02-14 Thread Dennis DeSantis



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Lusine icl



anyone heard of these artists?
what are they like?



I can't speak for the others, but Lusine ICL put out a record that 
absolutely blew me away last year, called "Iron City."  It's broken-beat 
stuff primarily, but with a really sensitive ear for harmony and detail. 
 Absolutely gorgeous.  I can't recommend it enough.


--
Dennis DeSantis
www.dennisdesantis.com



(313) Tektite and Mad Monkey records

2003-02-14 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I picked up a copy of the Tektite/Mad Monkey split 12"

  
 MTEK01 :: Merrick Brown / T. Millar - Merrick Brown / T. Millar - split 12" 
split 12" / TBA  

  
 I was looking up info on Mad Monkey records because that side was so good  
  
 http://www.madmonkey.org/  
  
 alas - no sound files to be found  
  

  

  

infact - it links to Hymen records and everything is listed in Yens I do
believe - is this a Japanese label?

Mad Monkey artists listed in the discog are:

Dead Hollywood Stars
Lusine icl
Neutral
Burning Rome
ENE

anyone heard of these artists?
what are they like?

the links off of Mad Monkey also led to what looks like a distributor - and
then a link to Mezbow so should I expect noise experiments?

MEK






RE: (313) Global News

2003-02-14 Thread John Sokolowski

> > Last week with Ron Trent...whew! That's all I can say. Those who were 
> > there know what I'm talking about. Special thanks to Ron for coming out, 
> > and we promise to have him back soon. 
> > 
> 
>ooh I'd love more details, how did he sound? What kind of styles? He's playing at SmartBar >in Chicago on Saturday night but there are many other things going on that night. Apparently >there is some F-Comm release party tie in? Wondered what I could expect to hear... 

 
Ron Trent is also playing a loft party next weekend in Chicago on Friday, February 21st.
 
The loft is above Square One Cafe at 1561 N. Milwaukee. A donation of $10 is requested for entry.
 
Cheers,
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RE: (313) Global News

2003-02-14 Thread Matthew MacQueen
Barbara Deyo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

> GLOBAL NEWS
> 
> Last week with Ron Trent...whew!  That's all I can say.  Those who were
> there know what I'm talking about.  Special thanks to Ron for coming out,
> and we promise to have him back soon.
> 

ooh I'd love more details, how did he sound?  What kind of styles?  He's 
playing at SmartBar in Chicago on Saturday night but there are many other 
things going on that night. Apparently there is some F-Comm release party tie 
in?  Wondered what I could expect to hear...

I haven't heard Ron Trent DJ since the Urban Sound Gallery loft space on N. 
Broadway in Chicago years ago... I guess that was like 96-97 ?

peace,
Matt MacQueen


(313) Global News

2003-02-14 Thread Barbara Deyo
GLOBAL NEWS

Last week with Ron Trent...whew!  That's all I can say.  Those who were
there know what I'm talking about.  Special thanks to Ron for coming out,
and we promise to have him back soon.

This week's Valentine's date is MINX!  We are happy to report that she will
be joining the Global family as one of our rotating weekly residents.

We will also be featuring different hot, up and coming locals to get the
party started right.  This week's opener is Kyle Jay.   Coming up on the
21st is our sexy favorite, Joseph from Omoamusic.

The momentum is building, and we promise to bring you damn good music
always.  We have lots of surprises coming up, one of which is securing the
legendary Timmy Regisford from Club Shelter in NYC for March 7th.  We really
pulled off a coup with this one...In his 20+ years DJ'ing around the world,
he is extremely selective about where he spins, and this is his first ever
appearance in Detroit!  You DO NOT want to miss this!!  The  man is truly a
legend.  From his Paradise Garage days, to his decade residency of "Shelter"
at Club Vinyl to his A&R positions at Atlantic, MCA, Motown and DreamWorks,
he has discovered superstars, as well as become one is his own right.
Please read on about him at www.zoommanagement.com/timmy.htm.  He's starting
early and going late, so be prepared...wear comfortable shoes and be sure to
hydrate yourself.  ;)

We are very proud to announce, beginning February 28th, marks the launch of
our monthly partnership with URB Magazine (www.urb.com) as one of 10
specially selected events around the country for their special Issue Release
Parties.  *Free URB CD compilations and magazines each month!*

March 14th is the official Detroit KS02 Release Party!  Kevin will be
playing an extended 4 hour set!!  KS02 is the second installment of Kevin's
TrusttheDJ mix series, and it's HOT.  Available exclusively through
www.trustthedj.com,  we will have some CD's for you, so arrive early to get
one.  Go to www.kevinsaunderson.com for more details.

Thanks for the support, and we'll see you on the dance floor!

GLOBAL FRIDAYS
free your spirit

Weekly Residents
D WYNN
KEVIN SAUNDERSON
MINX

The Works Detroit
1846 Michigan Ave. @ Rosa Parks
313 961 1742
$5 before 11/$10 after
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(313) ron trent track id

2003-02-14 Thread ryan burns


whats the first track he plays on this
http://www.deephousepage.com/rontrentdanny.ram

ryan




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RE: (313) music video websites?

2003-02-14 Thread Neil Wallace

http://www.ruben.fm/videos/ghetto.mov

is a 10 minute documentary featuring dj funk, deeon, ray barney etc.

:-Original Message-
:From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Michael.Elliot-
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 5:26 PM
:To: 313@hyperreal.org
:Subject: (313) music video websites?
:
:anyone having any links to cool music video websites - 313 related or
not
:but good quality music and image to match?
:
:MEK
:



(313) music video websites?

2003-02-14 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
anyone having any links to cool music video websites - 313 related or not
but good quality music and image to match?

MEK




RE: (313) Re: Atomic Jam

2003-02-14 Thread iancheshire
well I will be there for sure as wanna see Chris agin in action but off course
catch Mr Hood and see him do his thang!


-Original Message-
From:   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent:   14 February 2003 11:35
To: "Stuart Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject:Re: (313) Re: Atomic Jam


I did hear that Code isn't as good a venue as the Que Club but I've yet to
try it for myself. After saying I'd give Atomic Jam a rest for a while I
think Robert Hood & Dave Clarke might just tempt me back ...

 The sound quality was never good in the Que Club anyway, I thought that
was it's biggest downfal .

G


(313) Radio Jatkoaika 14.2.2003 (stream)

2003-02-14 Thread Jussi Lehtonen

http://byrokratia.org/radio
( February 14th 2003 , 19.00 o'clock [+2h GMT/UT] -> )

"Describe to me in your own words. How are you feeling?" 
"I have grown weary of casted lives and realities. Either numerous
groups, companies, traditions and medias have been accumulated under one
'brand' or it has changed all of them partly Casted without anyone
noticing."
"Yes, that is as much as we understood about your condition after reading
the reports from Jackson-institute."
"That is not even the end of it! Just wait and hear what I still have to 
say! One night I was thinking about the day that had passed and the
moment when I was admiring the smell of spring wavering in the wind. 
Suddenly I was sitting in the middle of a forest. In a way, I could see
around me the furniture, floor, walls and the window covered by the 
curtains, but I did not care about them."
"When you noticed this did you feel fear or excitement?"
"I am starting to feel fear now. How does my experience differ from a 
Casted one"
"Easy now, you will soon be with Friends..."

Patient:
Pas-2

Doctors:
Fax
Nurpo
Teemu P
Virasto



J

--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  "Metaprogram yourself."




Re: (313) Re: Atomic Jam

2003-02-14 Thread Gary . Girard

I did hear that Code isn't as good a venue as the Que Club but I've yet to
try it for myself. After saying I'd give Atomic Jam a rest for a while I
think Robert Hood & Dave Clarke might just tempt me back ...

 The sound quality was never good in the Que Club anyway, I thought that
was it's biggest downfal .

G



(313) Re: Atomic Jam

2003-02-14 Thread Stuart Thompson

I hope they don't pack the venue like when Jeff Mills played there
last november, and of course it not a patch on the Que club as
a venue but the sound system is pretty tasty

Stuart




SATURDAY 22ND MARCH 2003 9.30PM - 6.00AM
AT CODE, HEATH MILL LANE, DIGBETH, BIRMINGHAM

MAIN ARENA : TECHNO & BEYOND

ROBERT HOOD (3 HOUR ENHANCED DJ SET WITH LIVE ELEMENTS) M-PLANT 10TH AN=
NIVERSARY TOUR

DAVE CLARKE

CHRIS FINKE  ADE FENTON TONY WORK

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RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING

2003-02-14 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Ok sorry. I didn't notice that 313 wasn't in the address line.

So we agree. Good. Now let's get outta here.
k

>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:19 AM
>To: 'Odeluga, Ken'
>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>
>
>Ken - I did take it off-list and you responded to the list and not me.
>I have had my wrist slapped by Matt McQueen for off-topicness and
>now you've
>dragged me onto the list again, so now I'm going to look like an even more
>obnoxious bastard than I am.
>
>I don't for a minute think the march will stop the war but I also think it
>is up to us to let the governments know that we disagree with them or we
>might as well roll over now and give up.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:10 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>
>
>As I said Rob - deadly serious.
>
>>So we should shut up now, just on the off-chance of future political
>>repression?
>
>I didn't say that.
>
>>If that's the case, what is the point of going to the march, what is the
>>point of resisting anything opressive?
>
>>From some perspectives, there is no point, you're right - are you any match
>for a millitary intelligence machine with ancient experience in eliminating
>desent? But on the other hand, throughout history, the minority has
>protested about the heedless inhumanity which a smaller ruling minority has
>been perpetrating on the majority. Sometimes it works, rarely, but
>sometimes.
>
>I draw some comfort from that and conclude that I'll continue the
>tradition.
>
>Why will you be there?
>
>Perhaps we should take this off-list from this point on.
>
>Ken
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:53 AM
>>To: 'Odeluga, Ken'
>>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>>
>>
>>You're joking ain't ya?
>>
>>So we should shut up now, just on the off-chance of future political
>>repression?
>>If that's the case, what is the point of going to the march, what is the
>>point of resisting anything opressive?
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:44 AM
>>To: Robert Taylor; 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew;
>>313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>>
>>
>>Deadly serious mate - I think you know it too. (It's hard to face these
>>difficult truths so denial is quite natural and in a way, acceptable.)
>>
>>k
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:17 PM
>>>To: 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>>>
>>>
>>>That's one of the funniest things I have read all day.
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: dr.dog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:04 PM
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>>>
>>>
>>>as the thing is somhow off-topic
>>>
>>>this will be my last comment about matter´s like this on the list
>>>
>>>will give you a detroit-techno-connection though:
>>>
>>>
>>>this is dedicated to - Dopplereffekt - Fascist State
>>>
>>>
>>>I tried to say this before:
>>>
>>>any comment made over the web in public - any critical thought etc..
>>>
>>>will be scanned, filtered and archived by Echolon, the NSA etc...
>>>
>>>(find out yourself as much as you can about the institutions like this -
>>>
>>>it is no persecution complex - no way - this IS big brother watching)
>>>
>>>- this stuff is not controled and limited by the public so far
>>>
>>>therefore - any too "critical dangerous opinion" you speak out might
>>>
>>>be used against you some time - maybe not, but maybe in ten years, maybe
>>>
>>>when things got worse in the direction they are currently heading again.
>>>
>>>(... if you trust in justice ? just remember how the black panters
>>>
>>>got deleted - when they started to get more popular ... )
>>>
>>>as I said enough critical things before here,
>>>
>>>it won´t make a difference if I write this too -
>>>
>>>but I want to warn all people who didn´t "lean so much out off
>the window"
>>>
>>>worrying about the things happening
>>>
>>>to be aware that modern communication technology is used to
>>control people,
>>>
>>>as long as this technology is not controled and regulated by the people -
>>>
>>>don´t show your complete personality combined with critical
>>opinions on the
>>>
>>>web, fax, telephone etc... - this is emotional - but really not clever
>>>
>>>looking at the facts at the moment
>>>
>>>I know many people here do know all this but still concepts for clever
>>>
>>>peaceful resistance are not well known.
>>>
>>>many peacefull resistance-groups are giving their data over

RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING

2003-02-14 Thread Robert Taylor
For the record, I did take it off list.
I've learnt my lessons and I now know when not to share things with the list
(well maybe not all the time ;-))

-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING


As I said Rob - deadly serious.

>So we should shut up now, just on the off-chance of future political
>repression?

I didn't say that.

>If that's the case, what is the point of going to the march, what is the
>point of resisting anything opressive?

>From some perspectives, there is no point, you're right - are you any match
for a millitary intelligence machine with ancient experience in eliminating
desent? But on the other hand, throughout history, the minority has
protested about the heedless inhumanity which a smaller ruling minority has
been perpetrating on the majority. Sometimes it works, rarely, but
sometimes.

I draw some comfort from that and conclude that I'll continue the tradition.

Why will you be there?

Perhaps we should take this off-list from this point on.

Ken


>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:53 AM
>To: 'Odeluga, Ken'
>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>
>
>You're joking ain't ya?
>
>So we should shut up now, just on the off-chance of future political
>repression?
>If that's the case, what is the point of going to the march, what is the
>point of resisting anything opressive?
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:44 AM
>To: Robert Taylor; 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew;
>313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>
>
>Deadly serious mate - I think you know it too. (It's hard to face these
>difficult truths so denial is quite natural and in a way, acceptable.)
>
>k
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:17 PM
>>To: 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>>
>>
>>That's one of the funniest things I have read all day.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: dr.dog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:04 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>>
>>
>>as the thing is somhow off-topic
>>
>>this will be my last comment about matter´s like this on the list
>>
>>will give you a detroit-techno-connection though:
>>
>>
>>this is dedicated to - Dopplereffekt - Fascist State
>>
>>
>>I tried to say this before:
>>
>>any comment made over the web in public - any critical thought etc..
>>
>>will be scanned, filtered and archived by Echolon, the NSA etc...
>>
>>(find out yourself as much as you can about the institutions like this -
>>
>>it is no persecution complex - no way - this IS big brother watching)
>>
>>- this stuff is not controled and limited by the public so far
>>
>>therefore - any too "critical dangerous opinion" you speak out might
>>
>>be used against you some time - maybe not, but maybe in ten years, maybe
>>
>>when things got worse in the direction they are currently heading again.
>>
>>(... if you trust in justice ? just remember how the black panters
>>
>>got deleted - when they started to get more popular ... )
>>
>>as I said enough critical things before here,
>>
>>it won´t make a difference if I write this too -
>>
>>but I want to warn all people who didn´t "lean so much out off the window"
>>
>>worrying about the things happening
>>
>>to be aware that modern communication technology is used to
>control people,
>>
>>as long as this technology is not controled and regulated by the people -
>>
>>don´t show your complete personality combined with critical
>opinions on the
>>
>>web, fax, telephone etc... - this is emotional - but really not clever
>>
>>looking at the facts at the moment
>>
>>I know many people here do know all this but still concepts for clever
>>
>>peaceful resistance are not well known.
>>
>>many peacefull resistance-groups are giving their data over the web
>>
>>Greenpeace and Amnesty are some of the most controled pages ...
>>
>>if you enter their pages - your move is watched -
>>
>>all this could become dangerous - maybe it won´t matter - but
>maybe it will
>>
>>-
>>
>>and this is why I finally agree with Joe (for example)
>>
>>to keep certain matters offlist nowadays -
>>
>>an opinion in a contoled area has not the meaning of freedom it
>should have
>>
>>there´s only a small step to a real Fascist State
>>
>>out
>>
>>m
>>planetrock2003
>>
>>
>>
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RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING

2003-02-14 Thread Odeluga, Ken
As I said Rob - deadly serious.

>So we should shut up now, just on the off-chance of future political
>repression?

I didn't say that.

>If that's the case, what is the point of going to the march, what is the
>point of resisting anything opressive?

>From some perspectives, there is no point, you're right - are you any match
for a millitary intelligence machine with ancient experience in eliminating
desent? But on the other hand, throughout history, the minority has
protested about the heedless inhumanity which a smaller ruling minority has
been perpetrating on the majority. Sometimes it works, rarely, but
sometimes.

I draw some comfort from that and conclude that I'll continue the tradition.

Why will you be there?

Perhaps we should take this off-list from this point on.

Ken


>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:53 AM
>To: 'Odeluga, Ken'
>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>
>
>You're joking ain't ya?
>
>So we should shut up now, just on the off-chance of future political
>repression?
>If that's the case, what is the point of going to the march, what is the
>point of resisting anything opressive?
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:44 AM
>To: Robert Taylor; 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew;
>313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>
>
>Deadly serious mate - I think you know it too. (It's hard to face these
>difficult truths so denial is quite natural and in a way, acceptable.)
>
>k
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:17 PM
>>To: 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>>
>>
>>That's one of the funniest things I have read all day.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: dr.dog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:04 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>>
>>
>>as the thing is somhow off-topic
>>
>>this will be my last comment about matter´s like this on the list
>>
>>will give you a detroit-techno-connection though:
>>
>>
>>this is dedicated to - Dopplereffekt - Fascist State
>>
>>
>>I tried to say this before:
>>
>>any comment made over the web in public - any critical thought etc..
>>
>>will be scanned, filtered and archived by Echolon, the NSA etc...
>>
>>(find out yourself as much as you can about the institutions like this -
>>
>>it is no persecution complex - no way - this IS big brother watching)
>>
>>- this stuff is not controled and limited by the public so far
>>
>>therefore - any too "critical dangerous opinion" you speak out might
>>
>>be used against you some time - maybe not, but maybe in ten years, maybe
>>
>>when things got worse in the direction they are currently heading again.
>>
>>(... if you trust in justice ? just remember how the black panters
>>
>>got deleted - when they started to get more popular ... )
>>
>>as I said enough critical things before here,
>>
>>it won´t make a difference if I write this too -
>>
>>but I want to warn all people who didn´t "lean so much out off the window"
>>
>>worrying about the things happening
>>
>>to be aware that modern communication technology is used to
>control people,
>>
>>as long as this technology is not controled and regulated by the people -
>>
>>don´t show your complete personality combined with critical
>opinions on the
>>
>>web, fax, telephone etc... - this is emotional - but really not clever
>>
>>looking at the facts at the moment
>>
>>I know many people here do know all this but still concepts for clever
>>
>>peaceful resistance are not well known.
>>
>>many peacefull resistance-groups are giving their data over the web
>>
>>Greenpeace and Amnesty are some of the most controled pages ...
>>
>>if you enter their pages - your move is watched -
>>
>>all this could become dangerous - maybe it won´t matter - but
>maybe it will
>>
>>-
>>
>>and this is why I finally agree with Joe (for example)
>>
>>to keep certain matters offlist nowadays -
>>
>>an opinion in a contoled area has not the meaning of freedom it
>should have
>>
>>there´s only a small step to a real Fascist State
>>
>>out
>>
>>m
>>planetrock2003
>>
>>
>>
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RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING

2003-02-14 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Deadly serious mate - I think you know it too. (It's hard to face these
difficult truths so denial is quite natural and in a way, acceptable.)

k

>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:17 PM
>To: 'dr.dog'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>
>
>That's one of the funniest things I have read all day.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: dr.dog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:04 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) 15th FEBRUARY - DO THE RIGHT THING
>
>
>as the thing is somhow off-topic
>
>this will be my last comment about matter´s like this on the list
>
>will give you a detroit-techno-connection though:
>
>
>this is dedicated to - Dopplereffekt - Fascist State
>
>
>I tried to say this before:
>
>any comment made over the web in public - any critical thought etc..
>
>will be scanned, filtered and archived by Echolon, the NSA etc...
>
>(find out yourself as much as you can about the institutions like this -
>
>it is no persecution complex - no way - this IS big brother watching)
>
>- this stuff is not controled and limited by the public so far
>
>therefore - any too "critical dangerous opinion" you speak out might
>
>be used against you some time - maybe not, but maybe in ten years, maybe
>
>when things got worse in the direction they are currently heading again.
>
>(... if you trust in justice ? just remember how the black panters
>
>got deleted - when they started to get more popular ... )
>
>as I said enough critical things before here,
>
>it won´t make a difference if I write this too -
>
>but I want to warn all people who didn´t "lean so much out off the window"
>
>worrying about the things happening
>
>to be aware that modern communication technology is used to control people,
>
>as long as this technology is not controled and regulated by the people -
>
>don´t show your complete personality combined with critical opinions on the
>
>web, fax, telephone etc... - this is emotional - but really not clever
>
>looking at the facts at the moment
>
>I know many people here do know all this but still concepts for clever
>
>peaceful resistance are not well known.
>
>many peacefull resistance-groups are giving their data over the web
>
>Greenpeace and Amnesty are some of the most controled pages ...
>
>if you enter their pages - your move is watched -
>
>all this could become dangerous - maybe it won´t matter - but maybe it will
>
>-
>
>and this is why I finally agree with Joe (for example)
>
>to keep certain matters offlist nowadays -
>
>an opinion in a contoled area has not the meaning of freedom it should have
>
>there´s only a small step to a real Fascist State
>
>out
>
>m
>planetrock2003
>
>
>
>Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
>represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically
>stated.  This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended
>solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed.
>If you have received this email in error, please notify
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: (313) Track ID

2003-02-14 Thread g
dunno what that is, but i'm happy to hear someone finally play Slynus IV out
(around 1:34:00).
only a little piece of it tho.. sampled vocal or some other mix i've never
heard.

- Original Message -
From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:17 PM
Subject: (313) Track ID


>
>
> 17:51 in, latest Sammy Dee set - http://www.paxahau.com/archives.htm
>
> I've heard this track many a times ... from rich , magda, etc..
>
> -Pete
>
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