Re: (313) Tour de France LP

2003-07-10 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

there are indeed going to be new tracks:

from Astralwerks
http://www.astralwerks.com/kraftwerk/default.html

"The album Tour de France Soundtracks will be released on August 19th and
features all-new recordings of the single Tour de Fance 2003 alongside
brand new compositions as well as a new version of their seminal electro
masterpiece "Tour de France" from 1983."


by the way - has anyone else had trouble trying to watch the TdF 03 video
today? did they take it down or has there just been that much traffic that
it won't download from the Kraftwerk website?

MEK



   
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whats up everyone.  first of all i want to say the new kraftwerk 03 is
amazing!  who ever said it sounded like"lame basic channel" and should get
slaped in the face :)
my question is the Kraftwerk LP thats comming out going to be reworks of
older tracks.  has anyone heard the whole LP???  or is there going to be
some new goddies on it???

ryan burns



>From: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Dave Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,   Brendan Nelson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,   The Music Institute

><313@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
>Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:00:04 -0400
>
>On 7/10/03 10:30 AM, "Dave Parsons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Did Juan also hear 'Planet Rock'?  as this was relased around the same
> > time as 'Alley's Of Your Mind' on Deep Space...  I don't know which one
> > was first.
>
>I believe Planet Rock was 1982, shortly after "Alleys".  A better
>inspiration for "Alleys" can be found in Ultravox's "Mr. X" from 1980.
>
>As I hear it, Afrika Bambaataa took inspiration more directly from
>Kraftwerk, and spawned dozens of imitators, defining the classic electro
>sound.  Pardon the pun, but it's influence may have even cycled back to
>Kraftwerk for Tour de France.
>
>Everyone of a certain age and an interest in dance music heard Planet
Rock.
>It was inescapable in 1982/83.
>--
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(313) [313] down Low EP 010.

2003-07-10 Thread Lee Herrington IV

  hey, that dan curtin release is living up to all the praise it's received.
it's nice to hear that early poff/metamorphic sound again.  by the way...
that photo on the EP label reminds me of pictures that some of the
replicants in BladeRunner used to carry with them.  hmmm.

cheers,
lrh



Re: (313) Tour de France LP

2003-07-10 Thread ryan burns


whats up everyone.  first of all i want to say the new kraftwerk 03 is 
amazing!  who ever said it sounded like"lame basic channel" and should get 
slaped in the face :)
my question is the Kraftwerk LP thats comming out going to be reworks of 
older tracks.  has anyone heard the whole LP???  or is there going to be 
some new goddies on it???


ryan burns




From: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:00:04 -0400

On 7/10/03 10:30 AM, "Dave Parsons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Did Juan also hear 'Planet Rock'?  as this was relased around the same
> time as 'Alley's Of Your Mind' on Deep Space...  I don't know which one
> was first.

I believe Planet Rock was 1982, shortly after "Alleys".  A better
inspiration for "Alleys" can be found in Ultravox's "Mr. X" from 1980.

As I hear it, Afrika Bambaataa took inspiration more directly from
Kraftwerk, and spawned dozens of imitators, defining the classic electro
sound.  Pardon the pun, but it's influence may have even cycled back to
Kraftwerk for Tour de France.

Everyone of a certain age and an interest in dance music heard Planet Rock.
It was inescapable in 1982/83.
--
im



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(313) Ben Wu @ Necto TONIGHT!!

2003-07-10 Thread Darren Longton (Marketing)
My boy Ben is leaving for San Diego soon, and this is will be his last gig 
before he leaves.  Come check it out!

NECTO 516 E. Liberty, Ann Arbor (734)994-5436 http://www.thenecto.com
"Lust" Ben Wu's Farewell Party
GUESTS:
 *Ben Wu (Club246/Detroit - techno,house,breaks)
 *DJ Teddie (Aquafresh/Detroit - breaks)
-18+, 9pm-2am, $5/$8


 


(313) tonight @ spiral : lansing, mi

2003-07-10 Thread plaztikjezuz
come on down to spiral.
George Rahme, Ross Katz, Charle George, Scotto
and a few more will be playing some records in the main room and bar area.



RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Dennis Donohue
Apologies if you get this twice, because I recieved it through 313, but it
appears no one else did...





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Alex said:

look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic question. But,

>This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with out even hearing
of Kraftwerk.

Is this true?

just interested to know.

--
Dennis:

This taken from: http://www.jahsonic.com/DetroitTechno.html


"I've always been a music lover," says Juan Atkins. "Everything has a
subconscious effect on what I do. In the 1970s I was into Parliament,
Funkadelic; as far back as '69 they were making records like Maggot Brain,
America Eats Its Young. But if you want the reason why that happened in
Detroit, you have to look at a DJ called Electrifying Mojo: he had five
hours every night, with no format restrictions. It was on his show that I
first heard Kraftwerk."

He admits that Mojo was the reason for what happened in Detroit, and
attributes that to the fact that he first heard Kraftwerk on that show...


(313) Radio Show - Friday 6pm - 8pm - www.wbar.org

2003-07-10 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
My weekly radio show at WBAR 87.9 FM Barnard College radio, NYC is tomorrow 
and every Friday night from 6pm to 8pm.


Last week I took off due to the holiday. The show can be accessed online at 
www.wbar.org.


I haven't decided what I will be playing tomorrow - maybe disco house or 
techno. It will be a surprise.


You can email me with feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or AIM me at the station 
at wbarrequest.


MP3s from all past shows are available at www.skooch.com and MP3s from this 
show will be available on Monday.


Thanks,
Eric 



RE: (313) LFO are back!

2003-07-10 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight


>Comparing today's music to techno from 10 or 15 years ago is like
comparing
>the original Star Wars Trilogy to the newer movies like Episode 1.
>Is newer better? well no because in this case newer technology was not
utilized correctly to
>improve on an old concept which had room for some improvement.

sorry but that's a bad analogy -
the new Star Wars suck, not because the technology wasn't used properly (it
was), but because the director though he could write the story (and
dialogue) as good as the professionals he hired for the first films (he
can't). Visually it was cool - substance wise it sucked because the content
was bd.

So, how does that connect to music?

it doesn't

If you're saying that LFO should keep working with sub-basses because you
think the sound hasn't been fully explored then do it yourself. You seem to
know quite a bit about their music so then go there yourself - take the old
LFO blueprint and push it further. Maybe you'll write the tune that saves
techno.
maybe LFO is tired of the sound because everyone at one point in time
started doing "bleep and bass" stuff and it sort of ran its course and then
MORPHED into other forms of music - THINGS CHANGE STEVE - GET USED TO IT.
If you want to hear sub-basses in new music then check out "Nu-School"
Breaks, drum & bass, electronic dub music, stuff like
Monolake/Toytronic/Neil Landstrumm/Si Begg/Polmo Polpo/etc. There is plenty
of music in a similar vein (albeit updated) to LFO's original sound.


>Techno is basically a late 80's early 90's music genre, it's like
"electro".
>Based in drum machine and synthesizer music

so did like an alien from outerspace give you some kind of new technology
that allows you to make music from your ass or something?
yeah - techno and electro are retro and s, like, 1992 - now we're all
into that new ass music - it's really cool because just like the TB303, our
asses weren't designed for making those types of noises. Some sub-basses
there, wot?

MEK



   
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--- Matthew MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To you. So that is an excuse for LFO to keep making the same tracks over
> and over? I don't buy it. While diehard fans might want an artist to
> stay in their personal favorite period (to your ears 'the best' period)
> forever, the vanguard artists will always want (for better or worse) to
> push a sound forward, especially in a genre like techno that rewards
> innovation.  You can't freeze a musical time period and put it in a
> bottle and expect to keep progress at the same time.  Get over it.

Well not so much making the same tracks just using some of the ideas
in LFO's first album such as the sub basslines.
What artist like Dave Clarke and Neil Landstrum were doing in the mid 90's
are good examples of people using concepts of the older techno
sound.

> Who said his new material is trying to be something else?  If it doesn't
> sound like old LFO and you're going to be unhappy, well start get
> disappointed now because it probably doesn't.  You could take it up with
> the artist, see how far you get.  Ha ha
>
> The "stupid" labels you mention are just words that became labels for
> artists pushing things in different directions, thus they got named to
> separate or highlight them.  If they didn't move in different
> directions, we'd all be stuck in a rut and all electronic dance music
> (or whatever) would sound much more similar even than it does today.
> Things change, morph, take in old and new influences and move where the
> artist wants to take things next, get over it.  Techno will never go
> back to the way it was 10-15 years ago, nor does it need to.

Techno is basically a late 80's early 90's music genre, it's like
"electro".
Based in drum machine and synthesizer music.
Comparing today's music to techno from 10 or 15 years ago is like comparing

the original Star Wars Trilogy to the newer movies like Episode 1.
Is newer better? well no because in this case newer technology was not
utilized correctly to
impro

(313) .mp3 mix

2003-07-10 Thread Max Duley / ARCart
Hi all,

Here's a mix I did.

Hope the long link doesn't break. If it does you can reach it through the site 
anyway.


Mix:
http://www.arcart.org/audio/mixes/Max_Duley_-_Learning_Process_section_3_.mp3


Tracklist:

TERRACE - "INTO DEEP SPACE" (ORLANDO VOORN mix) (EEVO LUTE) 
LIKE A TIM - "GROANING" (DJAX-UP-BEATS) 
MODEL 500 - "STARLIGHT" (R&S) 
RICK WADE - "PRIME TIME" (FUNKY CHOCOLATE) 
HIROAKI IIZUKA - "PHYS" (CODA) 
ULTRAHIGH - "DO IT TWICE" (FORCE INC.) 
SURGEON - untitled (COUNTERBALANCE) 
UR - "THE ILLUMINATOR" (UNDERGROUND RESISTANCE) 
ROBERT HOOD - "SEARCH" (HARDWAX) 
PSI PERFORMER - "1992" (KANZLERAMT) 
PETER BENISCH - "FASTER THAN LIGHT" (EEVO LUTE) 
BANDULU - "DOWNWARD GLANCE" (INFONET) 
AIR LIQUIDE - "LIQUIDE AIR" (XENON remix) (BLUE) 
GEOFF WHITE / MATHIAS SCHAFFHAUSER - "SCUIGL RE." (EDIT) 
PENINSULA - "MY LITTLE FILTERSHOP" (EEVO LUTE) 
STEWART WALKER - "OCEAN DRIVE" (FORCE INC.) 
FLORENCE - "A TOUCH OF HEAVEN" (EEVO LUTE) 
THE MARTIAN - "SEASON OF THE SOLAR WIND" (RED PLANET) 
JOSH ONE - "CONTEMPLATION" (KING BRITT mix) (ELECTROMATRIX) 
BALLET MECHANIQUE - "VINYL VOYAGE" (EEVO LUTE) 


As with all the other mixes I post, there are better quality 192kbps versions 
available from me on soulseek and now also soulseek isle. This method allows 
you to both get a higher quality sound and allows me to keep transfers under my 
limit. Of course it also means you have to wait longer to get it but if you're 
patient it's OK. Up to you, I don't mind. 

Cheers,

Max
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Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Ian
On 7/10/03 10:30 AM, "Dave Parsons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Did Juan also hear 'Planet Rock'?  as this was relased around the same
> time as 'Alley's Of Your Mind' on Deep Space...  I don't know which one
> was first. 

I believe Planet Rock was 1982, shortly after "Alleys".  A better
inspiration for "Alleys" can be found in Ultravox's "Mr. X" from 1980.

As I hear it, Afrika Bambaataa took inspiration more directly from
Kraftwerk, and spawned dozens of imitators, defining the classic electro
sound.  Pardon the pun, but it's influence may have even cycled back to
Kraftwerk for Tour de France.

Everyone of a certain age and an interest in dance music heard Planet Rock.
It was inescapable in 1982/83.
-- 
im



RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread alex . bond

>"Detroit, you have to look at a DJ called Electrifying Mojo: he had five
>hours every night, with no format restrictions. It was on his show that I
>first heard Kraftwerk."

Right, cool. Thanks for that. I was interested because I couldn't believe
it!
It's just well, I dunno, out of the 'belleville 3' I always felt that
Juan's music always sounded most overtly european (out of those 3 anyway).
so I was double surprised to hear that he hadn't heard Kraftwerk before he
started making music. In fact, I would be extremely surprised to hear that
people who were into music around that time in the US HADN'T heard
Kraftwerk. Especially Trans Europe Express and what the heads in NYC were
doing with it. So, I say coughcoughBULLS**Tcough to that statement. erm, I
think anyway.
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RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk





I think this was eloquently answered by JT just now Alex - something about
their influence seeping into the collective unconcious (those latter two are
my words, but I think - *think*) that's what JT meant. So we all have no
need to exhume any argument about who did what first! ;-)


Indeed - a laundry list could easily be provided of bands who milked what 
Kraftwerk did.
Keep in mind when Autobahn was released. Even if you fast-fwd MANY years 
after that to the booty dance (Channel 62 anyone? The New Dance Show, e.g.) 
television shows in Detroit which often played what seemed like endless 
variations of "Numbers", etc. or Mojo himself. New Wave (I hate that term!) 
was undeniably a big influence on many techno innovators and certainly 
Kraftwerk loomed large in that musical closet. Bowie, Eno, Byrne, etc. - 
who all went on to shape the more traditional rock/pop gardens.


jeff




(313) re: Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Glenn McClements

This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with out even hearing of 
Kraftwerk.



Is this true?


Nope it's not. I remember Atkins quoting where he first heard Kraftwerk (I 
think it was the Electrifying Mojo show), but it's obvious anyway from the 
Model 500 releases that he was influenced.

Glenn




RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Alex Bond:
>look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic question. But,
>
>>This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with out even hearing
>of Kraftwerk.
>
>Is this true?

I think this was eloquently answered by JT just now Alex - something about
their influence seeping into the collective unconcious (those latter two are
my words, but I think - *think*) that's what JT meant. So we all have no
need to exhume any argument about who did what first! ;-)

k

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>just interested to know.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Alex
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RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Dave Parsons
Did Juan also hear 'Planet Rock'?  as this was relased around the same
time as 'Alley's Of Your Mind' on Deep Space...  I don't know which one
was first. 

-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 10 July 2003 15:23
> 
> look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic 
> question. But,
> 
> >This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with 
> out even hearing
> of Kraftwerk.
> 
> Is this true?
> 
> just interested to know.

I was wondering the same thing. But as jeff pointed out, even if this
was actually true, I'd find it *very* doubtful that the influence of
Kraftwerk would not have invaded Juan's consciousness in *some* way or
another - he must have heard music by other people who had heard
Kraftwerk, for example...

Brendan


RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Dennis Donohue


look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic question. But,

>This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with out even hearing
of Kraftwerk.

Is this true?

just interested to know.

--

This taken from: http://www.jahsonic.com/DetroitTechno.html


"I've always been a music lover," says Juan Atkins. "Everything has a
subconscious effect on what I do. In the 1970s I was into Parliament,
Funkadelic; as far back as '69 they were making records like Maggot Brain,
America Eats Its Young. But if you want the reason why that happened in
Detroit, you have to look at a DJ called Electrifying Mojo: he had five
hours every night, with no format restrictions. It was on his show that I
first heard Kraftwerk."

He admits that Mojo was the reason for what happened in Detroit, and
attributes that to the fact that he first heard Kraftwerk on that show...



(313) track i.d/LFO/KRAftywerk

2003-07-10 Thread Martin
No Problem, always happy to help and keep the list On Topic

> Best DJ Trick goes to Christian - he played one side of a DFA record and
> toward the end of the song put it through an effects processor to echo the
> last bit of it, then flipped the record over, mid-set, while the echo was
> going, and played the other side. Brilliant!

I used to do something like this with an old ST when I played live, at the
end of the track I'd turn the effects up to allow me to load the next song,
god bless working with 512K


LFO
I've heard a few of the tracks from the new album, nothing like back in the
day I'd say, that time has gone and IMHO LFO have moved with the times and
are very techno, LFO still makes noises I dream off and continue to push
with fantastic arrangements.

Kraftwerk
We'll looking through my notes, 26yrs ago I got my first Kraftwerk 12"
Autobahn, man - that thing change my life and that of many others.

As for Juan hearing them, not sure but people like the Human League and Cabs
where doing stuff in 74 that isn't too far away. It was more to do with what
the equipment could do I believe...


MD



RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Brendan Nelson
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 10 July 2003 15:23
> 
> look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic 
> question. But,
> 
> >This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with 
> out even hearing
> of Kraftwerk.
> 
> Is this true?
> 
> just interested to know.

I was wondering the same thing. But as jeff pointed out, even if this
was actually true, I'd find it *very* doubtful that the influence of
Kraftwerk would not have invaded Juan's consciousness in *some* way or
another - he must have heard music by other people who had heard
Kraftwerk, for example...

Brendan


Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread alex . bond

look, I'm not starting anything, and this is not a sarcastic question. But,

>This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with out even hearing
of Kraftwerk.

Is this true?

just interested to know.

Thanks.

Alex
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RE: (313) LFO are back!

2003-07-10 Thread J. T.
Comparing today's music to techno from 10 or 15 years ago is like 
comparing

the original Star Wars Trilogy to the newer movies like Episode 1.
Is newer better? well no because in this case newer technology was not 
utilized correctly to

improve on an old concept which had room for some improvement.


ohh wait i think i mistook how you meant this the first time, that you were 
drawing a metaphor..i kinda dig it, that comparison..over-reliance on 
technology while missing the things that really made the first ones 
good...too much process not enough substance etc etc


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Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk




I just made my point with the man machine concept, which is a conventional 
way of interpreting

technology at the time.
Their music was not unconventional and abstract like say a Mortin Subotnick.


I don't know your age or which particular era of Kraftwerk you're 
referencing (there is pre-Autobahn material), but just because it wasn't 
like Subotnick doesn't mean it wasn't unconventional. I was there. It was 
INDEED unconventional. There were but a very few bands which had any 
notoriety doing more than dabbling with electronic stuff back then - like 
Tangerine Dream and Nektar (remember them?) and NOBODY was doing what 
Kraftwerk was doing, which was quite unconventional whether you were taking 
the pulse of electronic music, rock music or pop music of the day. I would 
go as far as saying that there probably wouldn't be a 313 list (or it would 
have a different shape if there were one) had there been no Kraftwerk. We 
can speculate endlessly about what might or might not have happened in 
terms of someone else coming up with their sound - but nobody did and THEY 
accomplished it.
And just because Juan wasn't into Kraftwerk (?) doesn't mean their 
influence (which is too large to gauge, really) hadn't seeped into the 
landscape sufficiently to be highly influential. Being my age, I can safely 
say that their influence is incredible.


jeff




RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Brendan Nelson
I have been considering the matter further, and have managed to frown my
way to a second conclusion: that the premise of all music is "look, I
can make various melodic and rhythmic sounds with either my voice or
with certain physical objects". From that we can deduce that music isn't
really all that original.

> -Original Message-
> From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 10 July 2003 15:07
> To: Brendan Nelson
> Cc: spw; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video
> 
> 
> 
> rock is just the sound of electrified strings, plucked, and 
> acoustic drums
> 
> hmmm i know i shouldn't rise to it but i can't help meself
> 
> robin...
> 
> 
> > So today's revelation, broadly speaking, is that electronic music is
> > made with electronic equipment?
> >
> > You know, 313 isn't just informative and entertaining - it's
> > *educational* too!
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 10 July 2003 15:00
> > > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
> > >
> > >
> > > make that + synthesizers.
> > > That's the premise of all electro and techno music: "look I
> > > can make futuristic sci-fi sounding
> > > music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and
> > > electronic sounding on synthesizer which does
> > > a poor job imitating acoustic sounds"
> > >
> > > --- spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The man machine concept = mechanical sounding drum machines
> > > = synthesizers.
> 
> 


RE: (313) LFO are back!

2003-07-10 Thread J. T.
Techno is basically a late 80's early 90's music genre, it's like 
"electro".


ahh you're one of those people who encapsulates music to a specific time 
period. like, jazz is a 1920's genre. rock is 1950's. techno, 1980's. but 
then you talk about progress, innovation and improvement - -i dont see how 
these two attitudes fit! you've got such a closemeninded view of when and 
what this music is, i dont see that you would know progress when you hear 
it..no offense, but music doesnt exist in a static time frame like that as 
long as people are still making it -- even when it is consciously harking 
back to an earlier time.



Comparing today's music to techno from 10 or 15 years ago is like comparing
the original Star Wars Trilogy to the newer movies like Episode 1.


umm, so like a completely relevant comparison, you mean?

Is newer better? well no because in this case newer technology was not 
utilized correctly to

improve on an old concept which had room for some improvement.


correctly? well la-di-da!! thats awfull rigid. i would say "not utilized to 
its full potential"...but then this falls into the mindframe of thinking 
that if music is "innovative", its better. like innovation first, worry 
about whether its actually aesthetically pleasing second :P what was the 
correct use of technology? techno might seem like it has an inherent 
connection to technology, but i disagree with that assumption. techno doesnt 
need new technology to progress, just ideas. but then i think there are two 
groups of listeners in techno, those who are more into sound design 
(technology is important) and those who are into songwriting (technology is 
irrelevant). i lean towards the latter obviously but i'm a big fan of the 
first as well...dont think sound design means anything without the 
songwriting.


hmm yeah ok. techno is dead! next: cd's vs vinyl :P
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RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread robin pinning

rock is just the sound of electrified strings, plucked, and acoustic drums

hmmm i know i shouldn't rise to it but i can't help meself

robin...


> So today's revelation, broadly speaking, is that electronic music is
> made with electronic equipment?
>
> You know, 313 isn't just informative and entertaining - it's
> *educational* too!
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 10 July 2003 15:00
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
> >
> >
> > make that + synthesizers.
> > That's the premise of all electro and techno music: "look I
> > can make futuristic sci-fi sounding
> > music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and
> > electronic sounding on synthesizer which does
> > a poor job imitating acoustic sounds"
> >
> > --- spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > The man machine concept = mechanical sounding drum machines
> > = synthesizers.



Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread spw
--- Bleep43 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "I don't see their music as being really that
> original?"
> 
> er. so who else sounds like them then?  And who did they copy?   Or is
> this another classic spw wind-up?
> 
> I can see what you are saying about them being around at the same time as
> electronic music and equipment began to make up a head of steam as it were,
> but to say that they were'nt original is way off the mark.

I just made my point with the man machine concept, which is a conventional way 
of interpreting
technology at the time.
Their music was not unconventional and abstract like say a Mortin Subotnick.
This is why Juan Atkins came up with a similar sound with out even hearing of 
Kraftwerk.


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Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Fabrizio Nahum

> That's the premise of all electro and techno music: "look I can make
futuristic sci-fi sounding
> music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and electronic sounding
on synthesizer which does
> a poor job imitating acoustic sounds"

now, thats what i call CLASSIC ;)

fab




RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Dennis Donohue
Just because Kraftwerk came out with music using the same instruments, does
not mean that it _sounded_ the same.  If all music created with like
instruments sounded exactly the same, than Jimi Hendrix should have never
even picked up a guitar...

Spw, you have good "devil's advocates" thoughts and comparisons (and that
type of thinking is usually condusive to broader horizons), but you really
do put your foot in your mouth alot...

Dennis

-Original Message-
From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:00 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video


make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: "look I can make
futuristic sci-fi sounding
music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and electronic sounding on
synthesizer which does
a poor job imitating acoustic sounds"

--- spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The man machine concept = mechanical sounding drum machines =
synthesizers.



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RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Robert Taylor
A stunning observation!

-Original Message-
From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:00 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video


make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: "look I can make futuristic 
sci-fi sounding
music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and electronic sounding on 
synthesizer which does
a poor job imitating acoustic sounds"

--- spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The man machine concept = mechanical sounding drum machines = synthesizers.



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RE: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Brendan Nelson
So today's revelation, broadly speaking, is that electronic music is
made with electronic equipment?

You know, 313 isn't just informative and entertaining - it's
*educational* too!

> -Original Message-
> From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 10 July 2003 15:00
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video
> 
> 
> make that + synthesizers.
> That's the premise of all electro and techno music: "look I 
> can make futuristic sci-fi sounding
> music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and 
> electronic sounding on synthesizer which does
> a poor job imitating acoustic sounds"
> 
> --- spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > The man machine concept = mechanical sounding drum machines 
> = synthesizers.
> 
> 
> 
> =
> 
> 


Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread spw
make that + synthesizers.
That's the premise of all electro and techno music: "look I can make futuristic 
sci-fi sounding
music with this mechanical sounding drum machine and electronic sounding on 
synthesizer which does
a poor job imitating acoustic sounds"

--- spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The man machine concept = mechanical sounding drum machines = synthesizers.



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Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread Bleep43
"I don't see their music as being really that
original?"

er. so who else sounds like them then?  And who did they copy?   Or is
this another classic spw wind-up?

I can see what you are saying about them being around at the same time as
electronic music and equipment began to make up a head of steam as it were,
but to say that they were'nt original is way off the mark.

- Original Message -
From: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video


> the main flaw in your reasoning which is a bit idol worshiping in my
opinion is why didn't we hear
> more of that sound when they played live in the late 80's, early 90's, or
eve mid 90's?
> They are obviously influenced by todays dance trends, I don't see their
music as being really that
> original, they were pioneers in a natural evolution of electronic music 30
years ago, when drum
> machines started to make the scene it wasn't hard to make very similar
sounding music.
> The man machine concept = mechanical sounding drum machines =
synthesizers.
>
> --- MM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i will agree with the fact that the "basic channel sound has been
imitated by many...but at
> > the
> > same time i have a hard time believing that kraftwerk is trying to sound
like anyonethey are
> > kraftwerkthey don't need to try to sound like anythingthey are
who they are and their
> > sounds
> > are there ownlets not forget its easy to judge them now 20 years
later knowing what we all
> > know
> > about soundbut it was kraftwerk along with others who taught us
about alot of those sounds
> > we
> > judge, and listen too...i just think its hard to compare any of
kraftwerks new music with
> > new
> > music todaycause kraftwerk is thinking far beyond most people making
music today.i mean
> > it
> > seems like electronic music has just caught up recently  with where
kraftwerk was 20 years
> > ago but none of this means they are not past there prime...i
guess we will have too
> > see.
> >
> > my 2 cents..
> >
> > michael
> > www.renegaderhythms.com
>
>
>
>
> =
>
>



Re: (313) Tour de France 03 video

2003-07-10 Thread spw
the main flaw in your reasoning which is a bit idol worshiping in my opinion is 
why didn't we hear
more of that sound when they played live in the late 80's, early 90's, or eve 
mid 90's?
They are obviously influenced by todays dance trends, I don't see their music 
as being really that
original, they were pioneers in a natural evolution of electronic music 30 
years ago, when drum
machines started to make the scene it wasn't hard to make very similar sounding 
music.
The man machine concept = mechanical sounding drum machines = synthesizers.

--- MM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i will agree with the fact that the "basic channel sound has been imitated by 
> many...but at
> the
> same time i have a hard time believing that kraftwerk is trying to sound like 
> anyonethey are
> kraftwerkthey don't need to try to sound like anythingthey are who 
> they are and their
> sounds
> are there ownlets not forget its easy to judge them now 20 years later 
> knowing what we all
> know
> about soundbut it was kraftwerk along with others who taught us about 
> alot of those sounds
> we
> judge, and listen too...i just think its hard to compare any of 
> kraftwerks new music with
> new
> music todaycause kraftwerk is thinking far beyond most people making 
> music today.i mean
> it
> seems like electronic music has just caught up recently  with where  
> kraftwerk was 20 years
> ago but none of this means they are not past there prime...i guess we 
> will have too
> see.
> 
> my 2 cents..
> 
> michael
> www.renegaderhythms.com




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RE: (313) LFO are back!

2003-07-10 Thread spw
--- Matthew MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> To you. So that is an excuse for LFO to keep making the same tracks over
> and over? I don't buy it. While diehard fans might want an artist to
> stay in their personal favorite period (to your ears 'the best' period)
> forever, the vanguard artists will always want (for better or worse) to
> push a sound forward, especially in a genre like techno that rewards
> innovation.  You can't freeze a musical time period and put it in a
> bottle and expect to keep progress at the same time.  Get over it.

Well not so much making the same tracks just using some of the ideas 
in LFO's first album such as the sub basslines.
What artist like Dave Clarke and Neil Landstrum were doing in the mid 90's 
are good examples of people using concepts of the older techno 
sound.

> Who said his new material is trying to be something else?  If it doesn't
> sound like old LFO and you're going to be unhappy, well start get
> disappointed now because it probably doesn't.  You could take it up with
> the artist, see how far you get.  Ha ha
> 
> The "stupid" labels you mention are just words that became labels for
> artists pushing things in different directions, thus they got named to
> separate or highlight them.  If they didn't move in different
> directions, we'd all be stuck in a rut and all electronic dance music
> (or whatever) would sound much more similar even than it does today.
> Things change, morph, take in old and new influences and move where the
> artist wants to take things next, get over it.  Techno will never go
> back to the way it was 10-15 years ago, nor does it need to. 

Techno is basically a late 80's early 90's music genre, it's like "electro".
Based in drum machine and synthesizer music.
Comparing today's music to techno from 10 or 15 years ago is like comparing 
the original Star Wars Trilogy to the newer movies like Episode 1.
Is newer better? well no because in this case newer technology was not utilized 
correctly to
improve on an old concept which had room for some improvement.

 





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RE: (313) track i.d.

2003-07-10 Thread Grammenos, Peter
Thanks a lot. Yeah when christian played he used the bassline from my fav
supercollider track and mixed it into the lyrics of this one, figured there
was a connection. Such a warm beautiful track.

Best DJ Trick goes to Christian - he played one side of a DFA record and
toward the end of the song put it through an effects processor to echo the
last bit of it, then flipped the record over, mid-set, while the echo was
going, and played the other side. Brilliant!

-Pete

-Original Message-
From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:14 AM
To: Grammenos, Peter
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) track i.d.


Its chungking 'making music' which is on their
album 'we travel fast' on tummy touch, and i think that track might be
released as a single - its lovely isn't it? the bassist from super_collider,
James Stephenson plays bass and produces chungking, That's his proper band
so to speak. they are very mellow and the lead singer Jessie, is quite a
performer...definitely worth checking live and I love the album too.




9/7/03 9:01 PM Grammenos, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Thanks much ;)!
> 
> -p
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:36 PM
> To: rebekah; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) track i.d.
> 
> 
> I've just asked Christian for you, answer to follow
> 
> 9/7/03 3:53 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>> Can anyone identify the following track? It was the third track that 
>> Christian Vogel played in his first set at Sonar 2003, which can be 
>> heard from the Sonar website.
>> 
>> The refrain goes like this:
>> 
>> "I feel as though I'm falling
>> I just wanna cry
>> Just help me along
>> To where I belong
>> Where I'm safe and sound
>> .making music"
>> 
>> thanks,
>> r
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


Re: (313) [313] downLow recordings website.

2003-07-10 Thread marsel

yeah, especially the first track on side a really stands out!

the best I've heard from mr Curtin in a while

smooth low-pitched kick with some incredilble cathy funky basslines!


- Original Message - 
From: "Arne Weinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: (313) [313] downLow recordings website.


The new 12" on Down Low by Dan Curtin is just released right now. In europe
it's distributed by Rushhour and in the states by Syntax. The usual record
shops should have it. The first edition is limited in clear see through
yellow vinyl, so hurry up
It's a superb new record. Typical Dan Curtin funky and sometimes a little
bit jazzy deep techno stuff. Recommended!

Arne


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>
>
>   hi folks.  anyone have any info regarding downLow's website?  i was
trying to get there in order to gather info about dan curtin's latest EP.
(like where to get it.)
>   hopefully the site won't be down for too long.
>
> cheers,
> lrh
>
>




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Re: (313) Omoa

2003-07-10 Thread marsel

the album really suprised me!

i expected more of too soften smooth noodlings
but several tracks are very raw and funky as god
going towards super_collider in a way
really suprising, and really good!!

the twelve is more on the regular tip, pretty smooth

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Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 10:41 AM
Subject: (313) Omoa


> Was just flicking through the Rushhour list and spotted two new Omoa music
> releases.
>
> an Ayro LP, and a remix 12".
>
> Has anyone heard them?
>
> I've liked the omoa stuff in the past, might buy, could do with listening,
> or someone telling me what they think..
>
> Thanks!
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Re: (313) [313] downLow recordings website.

2003-07-10 Thread Arne Weinberg
The new 12" on Down Low by Dan Curtin is just released right now. In europe 
it's distributed by Rushhour and in the states by Syntax. The usual record 
shops should have it. The first edition is limited in clear see through yellow 
vinyl, so hurry up
It's a superb new record. Typical Dan Curtin funky and sometimes a little bit 
jazzy deep techno stuff. Recommended!

Arne


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> 
> 
>   hi folks.  anyone have any info regarding downLow's website?  i was trying 
> to get there in order to gather info about dan curtin's latest EP. (like 
> where to get it.)
>   hopefully the site won't be down for too long.
> 
> cheers,
> lrh
> 
> 




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Re: (313) Theo Parrish - Eclectic Asthetic part II CD

2003-07-10 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk

At 09:24 PM 7/9/2003, Cyclone Wehner wrote:

Hey

Oh great, I got part 1 in Detroit and despite searching, there was no Part
2.
;)
Can I ask, where did you get it?

Cheers!

Cyclone


Record Time has these off and on.

jeff




(313) [313] downLow recordings website.

2003-07-10 Thread lee.herrington


  hi folks.  anyone have any info regarding downLow's website?  i was trying to 
get there in order to gather info about dan curtin's latest EP. (like where to 
get it.)
  hopefully the site won't be down for too long.

cheers,
lrh



(313) abstract science 2003.07.10 + etc 2003.07.12

2003-07-10 Thread m50
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RE: (313) Amp Dog Knights - Vocal Sampler - Somehow, Somewhere. . .

2003-07-10 Thread Allday, Andrew
   yup...daughter i believe

-Original Message-
From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 23:59
To: Matthew MacQueen
Cc: Allday, Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Amp Dog Knights - Vocal Sampler - Somehow, Somewhere.
. .


So that's not Syleena Johnson then? (Recent hit with Busta Rhymes etc.)

Parent? Relation?

Cheers,

Andrew


On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 08:35 PM, Matthew MacQueen wrote:

>> "Is It Because I'm Black" - Syl Johnson
>
> which is a wicked, heavy and honest gritty soul cut.. that sample you
> hear in the Theo record just scratches the surface of all the emotion
> deep inside that track...  it's pretty powerful.
>
> Cheers
> Matt MacQueen
>



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(313) Omoa

2003-07-10 Thread alex . bond
Was just flicking through the Rushhour list and spotted two new Omoa music
releases.

an Ayro LP, and a remix 12".

Has anyone heard them?

I've liked the omoa stuff in the past, might buy, could do with listening,
or someone telling me what they think..

Thanks!
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Re: (313) mix

2003-07-10 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Phonopsia wrote on Thu, 10 Jul 2003 about following:

> > robert hood - rumors of my doom - drama 
> 
> Now *that* is a song title! 

one of those tracks i keep wondering nobody talks about; it's quite old 
by now, but definitely one of the best tracks by hood, up there with 
The Vision ep on metroplex.
 

sakke
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Re: (313) track i.d.

2003-07-10 Thread Martin
Its chungking 'making music' which is on their
album 'we travel fast' on tummy touch, and i think that track might
be released as a single - its lovely isn't it? the bassist from
super_collider, James Stephenson plays bass and produces chungking,
That's his proper band so to speak. they are very mellow and the lead
singer Jessie, is quite a performer...definitely worth checking live
and I love the album too.




9/7/03 9:01 PM Grammenos, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Thanks much ;)!
> 
> -p
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 1:36 PM
> To: rebekah; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) track i.d.
> 
> 
> I've just asked Christian for you, answer to follow
> 
> 9/7/03 3:53 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>> Can anyone identify the following track? It was the third track that
>> Christian Vogel played in his first set at Sonar 2003, which can be
>> heard from the Sonar website.
>> 
>> The refrain goes like this:
>> 
>> "I feel as though I'm falling
>> I just wanna cry
>> Just help me along
>> To where I belong
>> Where I'm safe and sound
>> .making music"
>> 
>> thanks,
>> r
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 



Re: RE: (313) Magda London UK

2003-07-10 Thread chenkc

> 
> From: "ian cheshire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu 10/07/2003 12:5 AM GMT+08:00
HI all,

Just to add. I saw Stephen Brown live at House of God a few years back. He was 
awesome live. Don't miss that!!!

I wonder if any shops still keep stock of his real time Records releases. I 
could not get hold of his later releases. ANy recommendations?

Regards,

Collin Chen

> To: "Amanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>   <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: RE: (313) Magda London UK
> 
> sorry I wasn't trying to leave out Magda on purpose as I felt there was no
> need
> to state the obvious :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 July 2003 17:04
> To: Amanda; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Magda London UK
> 
> 
> ohh bugger! you see another night missed because I am away:((
> 
> I really like Percy X and would love to hear Mr Brown :( you lucky
> people, enjoy !!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Amanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 July 2003 16:43
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) Magda London UK
> 
> 
> Haywire take control in Fabric [room 2] this Saturday
> 
> 
> SATURDAY 12th JULY
> 
> 22:00 - 02:00 MAGDA [Minus]
> 02:00 - 03:00 STEPHEN BROWN [Transmat]
> 03:00 - 06:00 PERCY X [Soma]
> 
> 
> more info  :   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> www.haywire.co.uk
> www.fabriclondon.com
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Re: (313) Theo Parrish - Eclectic Asthetic part II CD

2003-07-10 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Hey

Oh great, I got part 1 in Detroit and despite searching, there was no Part
2.
;)
Can I ask, where did you get it?

Cheers!

Cyclone

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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: (313) Theo Parrish - Eclectic Asthetic part II CD
>Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:55 AM
>

> I just bought this and I know as the red card insert says:
>
> "Filled with minimal tech-house grooves. No artwork, No titles, Just
> MUSIC."
>
> but I'm curious if anyone does have a tracklisting?
>
> (don't care one way or another really as I intend on sitting back and
> chilling to it ASAP.)
>
> MEK
>
> 


Re: (313) mix

2003-07-10 Thread Phonopsia
- Original Message - 
From: "dang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:54 AM
Subject: (313) mix


> robert hood - rumors of my doom - drama 

Now *that* is a song title! 

Tristan
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