Re: (313) Blue Monday (Plastikman remix)
it came outin 1995 on 'from manchester with love'(http://www.discogs.com/release/134526) i have it. not much to get excited about. fairly hard and fast with drum rolls, as i remember. it's been relegated to the back of a cupboard somewhere. james www.jbucknell.com Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To Ken Odeluga 20/09/04 05:45 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Subject (313) Blue Monday (Plastikman remix) A9. New Order Blue Monday (Plastikman remix) White anyone heard this? Martin On 20 Sep 2004, at 10:09, Ken Odeluga wrote: http://www.finalscratch.com/fs4/start.asp ForwardSourceID:NT0001358E
Re: (313) Blue Monday (Plastikman remix)
Martin Dust wrote: A9. New Order Blue Monday (Plastikman remix) White yep its a very stripped down version of Blue Monday. Very Hawtinish. :) Regards, Ramon anyone heard this? Martin On 20 Sep 2004, at 10:09, Ken Odeluga wrote: http://www.finalscratch.com/fs4/start.asp
(313) New Villalobos
So the new Villalobos album drops on Perlon on 11 October - 3 x 12 of unreleased older material. Soundclips are now available on http://www1.technodj.de/?SUB=pProductTPL=productProductID=3663521 It sounds pretty damn good.
Re: (313) UK 10th Party
Just wanted to say a quick hello to everyone I met over the weekend in London. Had a great time, Haywire, 313 party and then hanging out with the Brixton crew until Sunday evening (Thanks for looking after me guys). Im going to have to try and make it down more often for these things. Cheers BT
(313) Morning 313
Morning 313. Well, I figured I owed you all a week off posting. But you're all a bit useless* So I'm just sticking my head out of my hidey hole to post this.. a cool Derrick May interview. I am LOVING the bits about Bush : ) http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=3046 oh, and Greg Wilson on Sunday night. Owww! Live edits of Visual The Music Got Me with 2 copies of the record. (Amongst many many other hot bits. Living legend that lad) See you next week! Alex *this is a joke, don't get the hump!! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Morning 313
Hi ya Alex Thanks for the Post, I will read that in a mo. I am glad you emailed as I wanted to say that Juan Atkin's Dust Til Dawn went down a storm at the weekend...The crowd went nuts, it was a great gig anyway and with 1000 peeps there it was time to lay those nerves about the track to rest...definately sounds much better on a big rig..so I am sold..It will be in the bag for a while now :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 12:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) Morning 313 Morning 313. Well, I figured I owed you all a week off posting. But you're all a bit useless* So I'm just sticking my head out of my hidey hole to post this.. a cool Derrick May interview. I am LOVING the bits about Bush : ) http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=3046 oh, and Greg Wilson on Sunday night. Owww! Live edits of Visual The Music Got Me with 2 copies of the record. (Amongst many many other hot bits. Living legend that lad) See you next week! Alex *this is a joke, don't get the hump!! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Morning 313
Just wanted to sat 'told ya so' Ian! But in a nice way! :-) Phonopsia played it too on Saturday at the 313 party and it went down wery well there too. Another great moment for me, and I'm for sure for others who know it: Matt played Sandblaster! Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Morning 313 Hi ya Alex Thanks for the Post, I will read that in a mo. I am glad you emailed as I wanted to say that Juan Atkin's Dust Til Dawn went down a storm at the weekend...The crowd went nuts, it was a great gig anyway and with 1000 peeps there it was time to lay those nerves about the track to rest...definately sounds much better on a big rig..so I am sold..It will be in the bag for a while now :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 12:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) Morning 313 Morning 313. Well, I figured I owed you all a week off posting. But you're all a bit useless* So I'm just sticking my head out of my hidey hole to post this.. a cool Derrick May interview. I am LOVING the bits about Bush : ) http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=3046 oh, and Greg Wilson on Sunday night. Owww! Live edits of Visual The Music Got Me with 2 copies of the record. (Amongst many many other hot bits. Living legend that lad) See you next week! Alex *this is a joke, don't get the hump!! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Morning 313
ahh cool!! glad you all had a good time , gutted I missed it :( alot of nostaglia for me at Public Life..would be nice to visit the place again on a 313 or Bleep nite:) -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) Morning 313 Just wanted to sat 'told ya so' Ian! But in a nice way! :-) Phonopsia played it too on Saturday at the 313 party and it went down wery well there too. Another great moment for me, and I'm for sure for others who know it: Matt played Sandblaster! Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Morning 313 Hi ya Alex Thanks for the Post, I will read that in a mo. I am glad you emailed as I wanted to say that Juan Atkin's Dust Til Dawn went down a storm at the weekend...The crowd went nuts, it was a great gig anyway and with 1000 peeps there it was time to lay those nerves about the track to rest...definately sounds much better on a big rig..so I am sold..It will be in the bag for a while now :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 12:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) Morning 313 Morning 313. Well, I figured I owed you all a week off posting. But you're all a bit useless* So I'm just sticking my head out of my hidey hole to post this.. a cool Derrick May interview. I am LOVING the bits about Bush : ) http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=3046 oh, and Greg Wilson on Sunday night. Owww! Live edits of Visual The Music Got Me with 2 copies of the record. (Amongst many many other hot bits. Living legend that lad) See you next week! Alex *this is a joke, don't get the hump!! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Morning 313
It was indeed fantastic to be at PL again for the first of another round of great parties. Sorry I missed the first half of the evening (esp the 2 for 1 drinks offer). I remember enjoying Gerald and Ken's sets, then going mental to Matt's stormer of a set. Good to see everyone, esp Gerald and David for the first time. Good work fellas! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:44 AM To: Ken Odeluga; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Morning 313 ahh cool!! glad you all had a good time , gutted I missed it :( alot of nostaglia for me at Public Life..would be nice to visit the place again on a 313 or Bleep nite:) -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) Morning 313 Just wanted to sat 'told ya so' Ian! But in a nice way! :-) Phonopsia played it too on Saturday at the 313 party and it went down wery well there too. Another great moment for me, and I'm for sure for others who know it: Matt played Sandblaster! Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Morning 313 Hi ya Alex Thanks for the Post, I will read that in a mo. I am glad you emailed as I wanted to say that Juan Atkin's Dust Til Dawn went down a storm at the weekend...The crowd went nuts, it was a great gig anyway and with 1000 peeps there it was time to lay those nerves about the track to rest...definately sounds much better on a big rig..so I am sold..It will be in the bag for a while now :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 12:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) Morning 313 Morning 313. Well, I figured I owed you all a week off posting. But you're all a bit useless* So I'm just sticking my head out of my hidey hole to post this.. a cool Derrick May interview. I am LOVING the bits about Bush : ) http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=3046 oh, and Greg Wilson on Sunday night. Owww! Live edits of Visual The Music Got Me with 2 copies of the record. (Amongst many many other hot bits. Living legend that lad) See you next week! Alex *this is a joke, don't get the hump!! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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esp Gerald Hey. Did Gerald ride in on a moose and wear one of those red jackets and a funny hat? Alex *slaps forehead, remembers not to post again* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Morning 313
No but he had a huge wide mouth on the side of his head which he kept flapping open and shut. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:04 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Morning 313 esp Gerald Hey. Did Gerald ride in on a moose and wear one of those red jackets and a funny hat? Alex *slaps forehead, remembers not to post again* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Morning 313
a cool Derrick May interview. I am LOVING the bits about Bush : ) http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=3046 interesting stuff in that. esp. the bit about things dying down. and being 3/4 the way through a cycle. we are in interesting times with regard to techno. the future is very unsure indeed. or do i just think that way cos i haven't been clubbing to a decent techno nite for while? robin...
Re: (313) Morning 313
On 21 Sep 2004, at 13:14, robin wrote: a cool Derrick May interview. I am LOVING the bits about Bush : ) http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=3046 interesting stuff in that. esp. the bit about things dying down. and being 3/4 the way through a cycle. we are in interesting times with regard to techno. the future is very unsure indeed. or do i just think that way cos i haven't been clubbing to a decent techno nite for while? so i know it's poor form to answer my own mail but if transmat (maybe a bad example, but a big label) went all digital...no vinyl but you can still buy a pack with artwork etc from record shops that allows you to DL the track say a max of 5 times would everyone else jump too? there has to be a point when that is true surely (there's be a DL only version for less too) that might be a way for labels to survive. any comments? or is this kinda discussion all played out like jaguar? :) robin...
RE: (313) Morning 313
well me perosnally form what I have read can't see digital music taking over totally..I mean CD sales are back up again with the report that due to poor quality etc downloads are not getting downloaded as much as everyone would like to think. I like to download music but for me I will also DL and then buy whatever I like on my preffered format which is either Vinyl or CD. there's osmehting about having something in your hand that is what it is that really attracts me...I love my box set of Derek the Dominos (non 313 sorry) and will treasure it forever, now if it was digital how could I do that? -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 1:39 PM To: 313 Org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) Morning 313 On 21 Sep 2004, at 13:14, robin wrote: a cool Derrick May interview. I am LOVING the bits about Bush : ) http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=3046 interesting stuff in that. esp. the bit about things dying down. and being 3/4 the way through a cycle. we are in interesting times with regard to techno. the future is very unsure indeed. or do i just think that way cos i haven't been clubbing to a decent techno nite for while? so i know it's poor form to answer my own mail but if transmat (maybe a bad example, but a big label) went all digital...no vinyl but you can still buy a pack with artwork etc from record shops that allows you to DL the track say a max of 5 times would everyone else jump too? there has to be a point when that is true surely (there's be a DL only version for less too) that might be a way for labels to survive. any comments? or is this kinda discussion all played out like jaguar? :) robin...
Re: (313) Morning 313
On 21 Sep 2004, at 14:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well me perosnally form what I have read can't see digital music taking over totally..I mean CD sales are back up again with the report that due to poor quality etc downloads are not getting downloaded as much as everyone would like to think. yeah mp3 euw. DL would have to be full wav or aiff to succeed imho (around 70mb for one tune). so yeah mebbe cds is still the way to go. I like to download music but for me I will also DL and then buy whatever I like on my preffered format which is either Vinyl or CD. there's osmehting about having something in your hand that is what it is that really attracts me...I love my box set of Derek the Dominos (non 313 sorry) and will treasure it forever, now if it was digital how could I do that? fair point hence my 'pack' suggestion below :). this also allows record shops to survive too. robin... -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 1:39 PM To: 313 Org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) Morning 313 On 21 Sep 2004, at 13:14, robin wrote: a cool Derrick May interview. I am LOVING the bits about Bush : ) http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=3046 interesting stuff in that. esp. the bit about things dying down. and being 3/4 the way through a cycle. we are in interesting times with regard to techno. the future is very unsure indeed. or do i just think that way cos i haven't been clubbing to a decent techno nite for while? so i know it's poor form to answer my own mail but if transmat (maybe a bad example, but a big label) went all digital...no vinyl but you can still buy a pack with artwork etc from record shops that allows you to DL the track say a max of 5 times would everyone else jump too? there has to be a point when that is true surely (there's be a DL only version for less too) that might be a way for labels to survive. any comments? or is this kinda discussion all played out like jaguar? :) robin...
RE: (313) Morning 313
yeah I like the pack idea for record shops, its a tough one.. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) Morning 313 On 21 Sep 2004, at 14:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well me perosnally form what I have read can't see digital music taking over totally..I mean CD sales are back up again with the report that due to poor quality etc downloads are not getting downloaded as much as everyone would like to think. yeah mp3 euw. DL would have to be full wav or aiff to succeed imho (around 70mb for one tune). so yeah mebbe cds is still the way to go. I like to download music but for me I will also DL and then buy whatever I like on my preffered format which is either Vinyl or CD. there's osmehting about having something in your hand that is what it is that really attracts me...I love my box set of Derek the Dominos (non 313 sorry) and will treasure it forever, now if it was digital how could I do that? fair point hence my 'pack' suggestion below :). this also allows record shops to survive too. robin... -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 1:39 PM To: 313 Org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) Morning 313 On 21 Sep 2004, at 13:14, robin wrote: a cool Derrick May interview. I am LOVING the bits about Bush : ) http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=3046 interesting stuff in that. esp. the bit about things dying down. and being 3/4 the way through a cycle. we are in interesting times with regard to techno. the future is very unsure indeed. or do i just think that way cos i haven't been clubbing to a decent techno nite for while? so i know it's poor form to answer my own mail but if transmat (maybe a bad example, but a big label) went all digital...no vinyl but you can still buy a pack with artwork etc from record shops that allows you to DL the track say a max of 5 times would everyone else jump too? there has to be a point when that is true surely (there's be a DL only version for less too) that might be a way for labels to survive. any comments? or is this kinda discussion all played out like jaguar? :) robin...
(313) If
If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin
RE: (313) If
Brixton -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:51 PM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) If
Berlin, rather... It's got quite a comparable history to Detroit as well... Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Tuesday, September 21, 2004 5:52 PM À : Martin Dust; 313@Hyperreal.Org Objet : RE: (313) If Brixton -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:51 PM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) If
Sheffield = S**t Manchester = Good ; ) We should have a techno war of the roses. Answer = Probably Berlin? *this isn't me posting, it's my mate* Thanks Not Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) If
What your reasoning Rob? And don't say it has a street called Electric Avenue ;) On 21 Sep 2004, at 16:51, Robert Taylor wrote: Brixton -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:51 PM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
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Berlin or Frankfurt your choice. My opinion 51:49 % for Berlin. b. If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin
RE: (313) If
Reasoning? What reasoning? I just didn't want to say Sheffield -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:56 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: Re: (313) If What your reasoning Rob? And don't say it has a street called Electric Avenue ;) On 21 Sep 2004, at 16:51, Robert Taylor wrote: Brixton -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:51 PM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ## # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) If
This is bound to start an argument if you ask me. Thanks Basildon Bond *brother of Alex, new 313 lurker* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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I just didn't want to say Sheffield Sheffield music has always been s**t. Bloody Yorkie bars, too tight to buy drum boxes, they had to use bin lids. Thanks Barry Bond *oor kids cousin* p.s. I was joking. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) If
cologne? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: Re: (313) If Sheffield = S**t Manchester = Good ; ) We should have a techno war of the roses. Answer = Probably Berlin? *this isn't me posting, it's my mate* Thanks Not Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) If
Er, what about Chicago? -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:03 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) If cologne? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: Re: (313) If Sheffield = S**t Manchester = Good ; ) We should have a techno war of the roses. Answer = Probably Berlin? *this isn't me posting, it's my mate* Thanks Not Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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cologne? no thanks, I'm ok with my 'eau de toilette' boom boom *I have a disease, can anyone help me? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) If
ha ha u nutter.. for me I'd say Berlin, the speach Mad Max gave in Detroit was an intense one and explianed alot about the history between Detroit and Berlin.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 4:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) If cologne? no thanks, I'm ok with my 'eau de toilette' boom boom *I have a disease, can anyone help me? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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you're beyond help :) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: Re: (313) If cologne? no thanks, I'm ok with my 'eau de toilette' boom boom *I have a disease, can anyone help me? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Er, what about Chicago? they're all gay and like disco. ask Macqueen. (well, thats what I read in a book) p.s. I'm joking again fact fans _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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It's go to be Berlin surely. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 September 2004 17:04 To: /0; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) If Er, what about Chicago? -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:03 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) If cologne? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: Re: (313) If Sheffield = S**t Manchester = Good ; ) We should have a techno war of the roses. Answer = Probably Berlin? *this isn't me posting, it's my mate* Thanks Not Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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What about all the crazy acid? That and the Relief sound had a HUGE influence on European techno -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:11 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) If Er, what about Chicago? they're all gay and like disco. ask Macqueen. (well, thats what I read in a book) p.s. I'm joking again fact fans _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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That and the Relief sound had a HUGE influence on European techno Europeans SUCK. Waste of space. ask Yussel. (thats a joke Yussel). _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Not that I'm really arsed what city takes this title, but surley London has a pretty good claim to it seeing as how its the capital of a country that was one of the first to really embrace Techno and give the Detroit labels (through Neil Rushton and others) the support and exposure they needed for the music to even get off the ground in those early days. Plus the whole warehouse/summer of love/rave/acid house/Orbital parties call it what you like scene bloomed over here first before the rest of the world caught on and those early techno tracks played a big part at some of those parties. Also fast forward to the present and London is a pretty techno friendly city, there's big name Detroit DJs spinning here almost on a weekly basis it seems these days.
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Did Trevor Nelson write that Stewart joke I don't think it even comes close... martin On 21 Sep 2004, at 16:19, Stewart Caig wrote: Not that I'm really arsed what city takes this title, but surley London has a pretty good claim to it seeing as how its the capital of a country that was one of the first to really embrace Techno and give the Detroit labels (through Neil Rushton and others) the support and exposure they needed for the music to even get off the ground in those early days. Plus the whole warehouse/summer of love/rave/acid house/Orbital parties call it what you like scene bloomed over here first before the rest of the world caught on and those early techno tracks played a big part at some of those parties. Also fast forward to the present and London is a pretty techno friendly city, there's big name Detroit DJs spinning here almost on a weekly basis it seems these days.
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Eindhoven, anyone? -Original Message- From: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 21 september 2004 17:19 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) If Not that I'm really arsed what city takes this title, but surley London has a pretty good claim to it seeing as how its the capital of a country that was one of the first to really embrace Techno and give the Detroit labels (through Neil Rushton and others) the support and exposure they needed for the music to even get off the ground in those early days. Plus the whole warehouse/summer of love/rave/acid house/Orbital parties call it what you like scene bloomed over here first before the rest of the world caught on and those early techno tracks played a big part at some of those parties. Also fast forward to the present and London is a pretty techno friendly city, there's big name Detroit DJs spinning here almost on a weekly basis it seems these days. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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was one of the first to really embrace Techno and give the Detroit labels (through Neil Rushton and others) Wasn't Network run out of Birmingham? Or am I wrong? (more than likely) us the whole warehouse/summer of love/rave/acid house/Orbital parties call it what you like scene bloomed over here first before the rest of the world caught on Hacienda!? Blackburn?! same summer. Lots of good artists tho from London, and,lets face it, virtually all music goes through london before it comes out. I say virtually, you know what I mean! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Eindhoven, anyone? Bah. Early bath for you Jochem one 'strike' and you're out. geddit? ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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preemptive strik! theyll be back, wladimir done nwaq04 artwork. he doesnt know it yet but its gonna be fab put the lightcity back on the map! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 21 september 2004 17:28 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) If Eindhoven, anyone? Bah. Early bath for you Jochem one 'strike' and you're out. geddit? ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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On 21 Sep 2004, at 16:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: was one of the first to really embrace Techno and give the Detroit labels (through Neil Rushton and others) Wasn't Network run out of Birmingham? Or am I wrong? (more than likely) But your not and for the record I don't think or feel it's Sheffield as the electronic scene here dates back to 1973 - way before techno, so I'd say Sheffield was more of an influence than The Second City. Many cities may also claim urban governance and industrial declines - it's a general rationalisation and one that isn't unique - Birmingham and Sheffield do has strong resemblance's to Detroit rather than say Berlin but is that enough? Any City that is dependent on one industry could also stake a claim on those grounds. Cheers Martin
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us the whole warehouse/summer of love/rave/acid house/Orbital parties call it what you like scene bloomed over here first before the rest of the world caught on Hacienda!? Blackburn?! same summer. You know Ive always wondered about the whole early Manchester (or Madchester as the crap Tee shirts told us) scene. I was going to warehouse parties as early as 89, but I always imagined the Hacienda and Manchester thing to be slightly different. I never hooked onto the whole Mondays/Stone Roses/New Order thing and never really felt that it had anything to do with what I was getting into. Have never really made any effort to extended my knowledge of the Manchester scene in those days (Having never ever even ventured further North than to the Eclipse in Coventry a few times! I'm Southern through and through!) other than what I've read in Techno Rebels and some other cool book on the history of rave culture, but even then I still thought that it all sounded a bit different to what I remember of those early heady days. I mean we were all wearing 30 inch flairs, baggy hooded tops with 'freaky' patterns on, Kickers, wallabies and floppy hats as well, but I dont remember ever hearing a Manchester track played at a single party I ever went to.
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No, No, No !! No debate here, the answer is obvious. The second city, is more than a city, it's an island.. Yes I-B-I-Z-A !! The Techno island.THAT I WILL NEVER EVER TREAD UPON ITS SOIL!! YUCK ! Hehehe... For real, i would say Berlin too, or one of theses UK city, but i doubt it could be a French city, its more desseminated. - Kiddy - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 4:51 PM Subject: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin
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Something in Germany ... Berlin perhaps? Lisa Martin Dust wrote: If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin
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Maybe this has been posted before... but in any case, it ties in nicely with the If dicussion as it evaluates the role of delelict industry as a factor for the emergence of Techno - in Berlin!!! Peace from Dortmund - highly industrial, derelict but no Techno anywhere Kat --- - SHRINKING CITIES MUSIC /// Live Acts, lectures, discussion groups, films, parties Thursday, September 23 - Saturday, September 25 Palast der Republik, Schlossplatz, 10187 Berlin In the framework of the project Volkspalast (Aug. 20 - Nov. 9, 2004). In cooperation with the WMF, visuals by Pfandfinderei, supported by the British Council, Berlin, De:Bug, Geier-Tronic. Music /// Th, Sept. 23, from 10 p.m. Messer für Frau Müller live (What's So Funny About, Solnze Rec. / St. Petersburg) Errors live (Glasgow) Freeform live (Warp, Nonplace / Brighton), Dave Haslam (Haçienda / Manchester), triPhaze + Rev. Benn Schipper (Privatelektro / Leipzig), Oleg Kostrov (Messer für Frau Müller / St. Petersburg) Fr, Sept. 24, from 10 p.m. Clueso live (Four Music / Erfurt) Tim Wright live (Novamute / Glasgow) 808 State DJ-Team (Circus Rec. / Manchester) EU/2h Company (Chebu Rec. / St. Petersburg) Rec de Weirl (Lanetic / Leipzig) Miss Mira (Lanetic / Leipzig) Sa, Sept. 25, from 10 p.m. Richard H. Kirk live (Cabaret Voltaire, Mute / Sheffield) FSK live (Disko B / FFM) Derrick May (Transmat / Detroit) TBC! Dex (Underground Resistance, Detroit) Franki Juncaj (Motech / Detroit) AN 2 (Was Not Was, Izhevsk/St. Petersburg) Lowtec (Playhouse, r.a.n.d. Muzik, Leipzig) Lectures, Discussion Groups, Films /// Th, Sept. 23 and Sa, Sept. 25 In shrinking cities like Detroit (USA), Manchester, Liverpool, Sheffield (UK), and Izhevsk (RUS), significant music cultures (Punk, House, Hip-Hop, Techno, and Electro) arose precisely in the times of urban crisis. They have sometimes had a significant influence on the cities' development. Shrinking Cities Music acoustically and theoretically addresses the question how music production developed and established itself in shrinking cities. Are shrinking cities especially productive sites for music? How is the city reflected and thematized in music production? Shrinking Cities Music comprises discussion groups, live performances, and parties. Further information: http://www.shrinkingcities.com/music.html Th, Sept. 23, 7-10 p.m. Panel 1 /// Appropriating the City in the Post-Socialist Upheaval (Ger.) With Steffen Kache (Distillery, Leipzig), Ralf Donis (Ilses Erika, Leipzig), Oleg Bogdanov (Light Music, St. Petersburg). Moderation: Jörg Augsburg (POP UP, Leipzig). Panel 2 /// Reinventing the City through Music (Eng.) With Dave Haslam (DJ and author, Manchester), Drew Hemment (Future Sonic, Manchester), Jayne Casey (afoundation, Liverpool), Klaus Overmeyer (landscape architect, Berlin). Moderation: Philipp Oswalt (architect/journalist, Berlin). Film Lounge /// Made in Sheffield, Director: Eve Wood, USA 2004 Strange Früt, Detroit Culture Part 1, Rock Apocrypha, Destroy all Monsters USA 1998 and other films, all orig. vers. Sa, Sept. 25, 4-9 p.m. Panel 1 /// The City as Originator (Independent Mainstream) (Eng.) With Jeff Mills (DJ, Detroit/Berlin), Dimitri Hegemann (Tresor, Berlin), Thomas Meinecke (journalist/musician, Eurasburg). Moderation: Alexis Waltz (music journalist, Berlin). Panel 2 /// Black Brand? (Image of Techno) (Eng.) With Nelson George (culture critic, New York), Justin Hoffmann (curator/musician, Wolfsburg), Diedrich Diederichsen (pop theoretician, Berlin). Moderation: Markus Müller (author/curator, Münster). Film lounge /// Modulations, Director: Iara Lee, USA 2003 The Last Angel of History, Director: John Akomfrah, Black Audio Film Collective GB/D 1995 Admission /// to lectures/discussion/film lounge: 5 Euro per day Admission to the music program (from 10 p.m.): Th: 8 Euro, Fr: 10 Euro, Sa: 12 Euro Advance ticket sales: Ticket Office HAU 2 daily Noon-19 p.m., Tel. 25 90 04 27, or Ticket Office Palast der Republik, Schlossplatz, daily 3-6 p.m., Tel. 030-20 91 46 80, and at all ticket outlets. Music concept: Alexandra Dröner, Johanna Grabsch, Katrin Hallenberger; Theory/Film Lounge concept: Doreen Mende, Philipp Oswalt; Production manager: Andreas Sachwitz. Press contact: Astrid Herbold, Shrinking Cities Project, Eisenacherstraße 74, D-10823 Berlin, Phone +49 (0)30 81 82 19 06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shrinking Cities is a project of the Kulturstiftung des Bundes [Federal Cultural Foundation] in cooperation with the Museum of Contemporary Art Leipzig, the Bauhaus Dessau Foundation and the magazine archplus. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2004 17:39 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) If us the whole warehouse/summer of love/rave/acid house/Orbital parties call it what you like scene bloomed over here first
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Oh come on... You mean nobody played Voodoo Ray around where you were? Or Pacific State? Or Flow Coma? You could argue that these came only at the very end of the 80's, but then Blue Monday was canned to death by Techno and House DJs alike as early as the whole scene started. sqrrt -Original Message- From: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) If us the whole warehouse/summer of love/rave/acid house/Orbital parties call it what you like scene bloomed over here first before the rest of the world caught on Hacienda!? Blackburn?! same summer. You know Ive always wondered about the whole early Manchester (or Madchester as the crap Tee shirts told us) scene. I was going to warehouse parties as early as 89, but I always imagined the Hacienda and Manchester thing to be slightly different. I never hooked onto the whole Mondays/Stone Roses/New Order thing and never really felt that it had anything to do with what I was getting into. Have never really made any effort to extended my knowledge of the Manchester scene in those days (Having never ever even ventured further North than to the Eclipse in Coventry a few times! I'm Southern through and through!) other than what I've read in Techno Rebels and some other cool book on the history of rave culture, but even then I still thought that it all sounded a bit different to what I remember of those early heady days. I mean we were all wearing 30 inch flairs, baggy hooded tops with 'freaky' patterns on, Kickers, wallabies and floppy hats as well, but I dont remember ever hearing a Manchester track played at a single party I ever went to.
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Oh come on... You mean nobody played Voodoo Ray around where you were? Or Pacific State? Or Flow Coma? You could argue that these came only at the very end of the 80's, but then Blue Monday was canned to death by Techno and House DJs alike as early as the whole scene started. Ok, obviously yes I heard them. I was referring to the band orientated music from Manchester (Mondays, Roses etc..) that seemed to have very strong ties to the scene up there. From a personal London/South Coast perspective this music/vibe never really reached me and seemed more a part of the 'indie' scene than the parties I was going to. As I said, I just dont remember hearing it played down here. I guess the point of me even bringing this up is out of curiosity because I know this music played an important part in the scene in and around Manchester and was just wondering just how much of a regional thing it was, because I never hooked onto it. Stewart
Re: (313) looking for acid (house)[when I hear ACEEEEEEEED!!! all I can say is ACEEEEEEEED!!!]
I don't mind so much crap headphones and needles as much as places that play the music in the store louder than what you're trying to listen to. I mean, c'mon store clerks, I'm trying to find out if I want to spend money at your shop and I need to hear if I like what I have in my stack of possible purchases. However, if you're going to play your music louder than what I'm trying to hear and it's interfering with what I'm listening to then f*ck it - I'm putting it all back and walking out. I don't expect the shop to be museum quiet but finding good music nowadays is hard enough - I don't want to have to fight with the in-store stereo. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] om To: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Tristan [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org 09/17/2004 04:54 Subject: Re: (313) looking for acid (house)[when I hear ACD!!! all I can say PMis ACD!!!] Please respond to jbartuski god I hate that. i wish stores that cater towards the serious DJs/collectors could at least supply decent headphones/needles. i keep telling myself to bring my own headphones when i go shopping, but i usually forget. how are you supposed to judge how a record will sound on a full-size speaker stack with headphones that came free with a $20 Walkman? - Original Message - From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, September 17, 2004 1:45 pm Subject: Re: (313) looking for acid (house)[when I hear ACD!!! all I can say is ACD!!!] On Sep 17, 2004, at 4:31 AM, Tristan Watkins wrote: The new Abe Duque stuff is about as pure as the original stuff, as is the new Loosefingers release. I like the Abe Duque, but is the Loosefingers release all that? What label again? I seem to remember hearing and kind of thinking 'eeehh'... maybe i should give it another shot, you know how quick needle drops at gramaphone are (overpowered thru the phones by flaccid 'silky deep house' on full blast on the store speakers) :P peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
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Hey Stewart. I'm going to get some info from friends and answer this Q properly for you I shall do that tonight! Jeez, if I had a pound for everytime I heard a Hacienda story, I wouldn't be the postman! But, just quickly, the Hac thing was happening before those bands formed basically But, yeah, more later. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) EFA Kaput?!
Please forgive me if I flaked and simply did not see this mentioned here before but I don't recall this being mentioned. This is hugely disappointing because from what I know, EFA were one of the big distributors that Caroline (in the USA) dealt with to get these releases stateside. Does anyone have an update on the distribution of some of the labels mentioned? Thanks. Leslie http://www.xpander.nl/index.cfm?NewsID=1771 DISTRIBUTOR EFA MEDIEN BANKRUPT After 22 years of supplying Europe with various styles of music, the curtain has finally fallen on EFA Medien, Germany's largest distributor of electronic music. Having filed for bankruptcy at the start of the year, EFA, which stands for Energy For All, tried to avoid the administrators by downsizing their staff, restructuring their distribution methods and channels and negotiating with possible investigators. Unfortunately, none of these came to fruition. EFA was the distributor for many upfront labels that have existed for many years now including Perlon, Kanzleramt, Playhouse, Tresor, Force Inc, Shitkatapult, Freude-am-Tanzen, and Pokerflat to name but a few. EFA had five in-house labels too. It's true, EFA Medien have filed for bankruptcy and unfortunately our own labels E:Motion, Hear 2 Hear, ESC, Clearspot and Secret Life are in trouble too. We don't know what will happen next yet. We just have to wait, said an EFA Medien employee. Gigolo Records, who used EFA Medien as their main distributor, are concerned about the effect this bankruptcy will have on other, smaller labels but are currently negotiating with other distributors themselves. Kanzleramt have already announced that they will use Roughtrade and Neutron to distribute their vinyl and CD's in the future, while Superstition got lucky by changing distributors last year. Xpander whishes all the best to all those involved! (03/12/04)
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well I remember going to the Marquee and 100 club and hearing the roses etc,so it did get down here and that was in 87 onwards..yes I was 15 but I used to also go to a club called Klubfoot which had some other weird bands/music like the Meteors so the Marquee and 100 club were also on the circuit.. -Original Message- From: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/21/2004 5:07 PM To: sqrrt Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) If Oh come on... You mean nobody played Voodoo Ray around where you were? Or Pacific State? Or Flow Coma? You could argue that these came only at the very end of the 80's, but then Blue Monday was canned to death by Techno and House DJs alike as early as the whole scene started. Ok, obviously yes I heard them. I was referring to the band orientated music from Manchester (Mondays, Roses etc..) that seemed to have very strong ties to the scene up there. From a personal London/South Coast perspective this music/vibe never really reached me and seemed more a part of the 'indie' scene than the parties I was going to. As I said, I just dont remember hearing it played down here. I guess the point of me even bringing this up is out of curiosity because I know this music played an important part in the scene in and around Manchester and was just wondering just how much of a regional thing it was, because I never hooked onto it. Stewart
(313) [OT] SLSK weirdness
something odd is happening on my slsk window that I haven't seen before I keep getting a file search window opening up with The Thrills as the search subject and next to it is a black box with a yellow star inside it I don't want any track by The Thrills and as far as I know I don't have any on my computer so I try to close the window but it just pops open again wtf is going on? if you can help me stop this please reply off-list MEK
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Nevermind - I think I figured it out. Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 09/21/2004 11:55 AM Subject: (313) [OT] SLSK weirdness something odd is happening on my slsk window that I haven't seen before I keep getting a file search window opening up with The Thrills as the search subject and next to it is a black box with a yellow star inside it I don't want any track by The Thrills and as far as I know I don't have any on my computer so I try to close the window but it just pops open again wtf is going on? if you can help me stop this please reply off-list MEK
RE: (313) EFA Kaput?!
Thanks for the information...I was able to find their web-site http://www.mutualism.de and they do have some of them...but no Perlon, Playhouse, Pokerflat, Tresor, or Force Inc. . . . big labels for this list. Hmmm. Leslie -Original Message- From: sqrrt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) EFA Kaput?! Hi Leslie, Most of them have been taken by MDM, another soon-to-be mega-German distributor. Hope this helps. sqrrt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:27 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) EFA Kaput?! Please forgive me if I flaked and simply did not see this mentioned here before but I don't recall this being mentioned. This is hugely disappointing because from what I know, EFA were one of the big distributors that Caroline (in the USA) dealt with to get these releases stateside. Does anyone have an update on the distribution of some of the labels mentioned? Thanks. Leslie http://www.xpander.nl/index.cfm?NewsID=1771 DISTRIBUTOR EFA MEDIEN BANKRUPT After 22 years of supplying Europe with various styles of music, the curtain has finally fallen on EFA Medien, Germany's largest distributor of electronic music. Having filed for bankruptcy at the start of the year, EFA, which stands for Energy For All, tried to avoid the administrators by downsizing their staff, restructuring their distribution methods and channels and negotiating with possible investigators. Unfortunately, none of these came to fruition. EFA was the distributor for many upfront labels that have existed for many years now including Perlon, Kanzleramt, Playhouse, Tresor, Force Inc, Shitkatapult, Freude-am-Tanzen, and Pokerflat to name but a few. EFA had five in-house labels too. It's true, EFA Medien have filed for bankruptcy and unfortunately our own labels E:Motion, Hear 2 Hear, ESC, Clearspot and Secret Life are in trouble too. We don't know what will happen next yet. We just have to wait, said an EFA Medien employee. Gigolo Records, who used EFA Medien as their main distributor, are concerned about the effect this bankruptcy will have on other, smaller labels but are currently negotiating with other distributors themselves. Kanzleramt have already announced that they will use Roughtrade and Neutron to distribute their vinyl and CD's in the future, while Superstition got lucky by changing distributors last year. Xpander whishes all the best to all those involved! (03/12/04)
RE: (313) looking for acid (house)
Hey I don't often chime in with a spontaneous record recommendation (though sometimes reply as I already have to the thread above). But (it's still sort of a reply as this is one cool slice of acid though not the old school Chicago style requested): the Henrik Schwarz mix of Wei Chi Faces Places on Compost is absolutely corking in my opinion. Check it (or sleep and weep). Francis
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-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] the Henrik Schwarz mix of Wei Chi Faces Places on Compost is absolutely corking in my opinion. Check it (or sleep and weep). i recently picked up this split he did with some other cat: http://www.discogs.com/release/230974 which is kind of acidic and kind of jacking, and very deep and dirty. its one of my favorite new 12s tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) looking for acid (house)
I've been digging the acid resistant series (1 and 2) on sm:)e communications today. old but still sick as hell - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:21 PM Subject: RE: (313) looking for acid (house) -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] the Henrik Schwarz mix of Wei Chi Faces Places on Compost is absolutely corking in my opinion. Check it (or sleep and weep). i recently picked up this split he did with some other cat: http://www.discogs.com/release/230974 which is kind of acidic and kind of jacking, and very deep and dirty. its one of my favorite new 12s tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) looking for acid (house)[when I hear ACEEEEEEEED!!! all I can say is ACEEEEEEEED!!!]
On Sep 21, 2004, at 11:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't expect the shop to be museum quiet but finding good music nowadays is hard enough - I don't want to have to fight with the in-store stereo. I hear that. To be fair to Gramaphone (i think i was moaning about this earlier in the thread), they have improved the listening experience by providing about 4 more turntables (total of like 8 now?), and now have needles attached to all tone arms, so you don't have to give them a drivers licence to 'check out' a needle from some employee you can never find, (only to get it mixed up with someone else's ID and then need to sort all that out just to get your own ID back). -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
(313) Kraftwerk 12345678
Anyone have a release date for this and was the box set going to be available on wax? MEK
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this post never made it to my inbox. if it posts to the list can someone let me know privately so i don't try again? thanks. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal subject:RE: (313) If to be honest, I'd have to say chicago. there was so much interaction in the early days between the chi-town and detroit heads, as well as the oft spoken about mutual admiration/respect held for each city by the other in the early days. I understand the claims laid by the european cities as far as the amount of support they have given techno over the years, but if detroit is held up as the first city, then support cannot factor into the award at all (detroit = support HA!). as far as contributions to the sound, chicago was a major influence on the detroit sound (and vice versa) before any of the overseas heads ever got ahold of it, and continued to be a major factor in the shaping of the sound via labels like relief and their ilk. so i vote Chicago. the Berlin thing kind of disturbs me because as I see it, they were the ones that misdefined techno to the world. Derrick May was talking about this in his interview earlier ( I have to redefine the concept of techno every time I play because people come in expecting... hard edged abrasive intrusive, into-the-cortex type music while I'm coming from a really melodic, rhythmic high tech soul angle... ) I think a large part of the reason that people expect that non-melodic, abrasive, intrusive sound when they think techno is because that's what they were taught by the Berlin school (okay stockholm too) to expect. I laugh because even the creators of this music are trying to shake off that stigma many years later. I don't hold any contempt for Berlin or any of it's inhabitants (think it's one of the best places on earth right now actually) but i just feel that berlin's contributions to the advancement of techno (artistically speaking, not support-wise) are just recently comin! g into their own in the last 5 or 6 years. the berlin influence seemed to hinder that advancement early on by narrowing the techno field of vision to loopy aggressive bizness. dunno, guess i'm rambling now. hope I don't get flamed for this one. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.
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I just got this message. And I don't think You will get flamed, but I always question when d.j.'s blame berlin for the harder looped based techno. I always thought it was Old Mills and Hood that started that stuff. Hood later on slowed down the tempo of his tracks and mills changed all together but they really started the hard aggressive stuff along with Banks. Oh also let's don't forget about Alan Oldham. And Denham. Even though jay came later. On a side note. What do you do there for TBS? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: 313 List (E-mail) Subject: RE: (313) If this post never made it to my inbox. if it posts to the list can someone let me know privately so i don't try again? thanks. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal subject:RE: (313) If to be honest, I'd have to say chicago. there was so much interaction in the early days between the chi-town and detroit heads, as well as the oft spoken about mutual admiration/respect held for each city by the other in the early days. I understand the claims laid by the european cities as far as the amount of support they have given techno over the years, but if detroit is held up as the first city, then support cannot factor into the award at all (detroit = support HA!). as far as contributions to the sound, chicago was a major influence on the detroit sound (and vice versa) before any of the overseas heads ever got ahold of it, and continued to be a major factor in the shaping of the sound via labels like relief and their ilk. so i vote Chicago. the Berlin thing kind of disturbs me because as I see it, they were the ones that misdefined techno to the world. Derrick May was talking about this in his interview earlier ( I have to redefine the concept of techno every time I play because people come in expecting... hard edged abrasive intrusive, into-the-cortex type music while I'm coming from a really melodic, rhythmic high tech soul angle... ) I think a large part of the reason that people expect that non-melodic, abrasive, intrusive sound when they think techno is because that's what they were taught by the Berlin school (okay stockholm too) to expect. I laugh because even the creators of this music are trying to shake off that stigma many years later. I don't hold any contempt for Berlin or any of it's inhabitants (think it's one of the best places on earth right now actually) but i just feel that berlin's contributions to the advancement of techno (artistically speaking, not support-wise) are just recently comin! g into their own in the last 5 or 6 years. the berlin influence seemed to hinder that advancement early on by narrowing the techno field of vision to loopy aggressive bizness. dunno, guess i'm rambling now. hope I don't get flamed for this one. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: this post never made it to my inbox. if it posts to the list can someone let me know privately so i don't try again? thanks. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal subject: RE: (313) If I really agree with this. In all honesty, I think a lot of the Chicago stuff, acid house and the reflex, had more of an influence on the sound of electronic music globally than the Detroit style. That being said, I actually think that out of the big three', only kevin made tracks that again converted into the next wave of electronic music, which happens to be the european stuff that came to define techno or dance music throughout the past 10 years. this isn't meant to be a deviding comment as much as just an interesting notion to think about. obviously, this list will focus on 313 techno- but i do sometimes feel like the influence of protottypical detroit techno is overstated. in the sea of electronic music, detroit techno is a significant buoy. but chicago seems more like lighthouse to me. thoughts? to be honest, I'd have to say chicago. there was so much interaction in the early days between the chi-town and detroit heads, as well as the oft spoken about mutual admiration/respect held for each city by the other in the early days. I understand the claims laid by the european cities as far as the amount of support they have given techno over the years, but if detroit is held up as the first city, then support cannot factor into the award at all (detroit = support HA!). as far as contributions to the sound, chicago was a major influence on the detroit sound (and vice versa) before any of the overseas heads ever got ahold of it, and continued to be a major factor in the shaping of the sound via labels like relief and their ilk. so i vote Chicago. i see two problems with your argument here. One, the hard Berlin sound actually had it's genesis in detroit with jeff mills, rob hood and that crew. and everyone of the detroit figureheads have played (i believe we decided the term was) loop-bangers at some point. And two, if you're saying that support doesn't matter when crowning detroit nad chicago kings, than why should the support berlin provided to the hard sound disqualify it? i'm agreeing with you that chicago should be considered city number two (or maybe number one given a more panoramic look at the question), but i see no reason to discount berlin (maybe as city number 3?) the Berlin thing kind of disturbs me because as I see it, they were the ones that misdefined techno to the world. Derrick May was talking about this in his interview earlier ( I have to redefine the concept of techno every time I play because people come in expecting... hard edged abrasive intrusive, into-the-cortex type music while I'm coming from a really melodic, rhythmic high tech soul angle... ) I think a large part of the reason that people expect that non-melodic, abrasive, intrusive sound when they think techno is because that's what they were taught by the Berlin school (okay stockholm too) to expect. I laugh because even the creators of this music are trying to shake off that stigma many years later. I don't hold any contempt for Berlin or any of it's inhabitants (think it's one of the best places on earth right now actually) but i just feel that berlin's contributions to the advancement of techno (artistically speaking, not support-wise) are just recently comi n! g into their own in the last 5 or 6 years. the berlin influence seemed to hinder that advancement early on by narrowing the techno field of vision to loopy aggressive bizness. dunno, guess i'm rambling now. hope I don't get flamed for this one. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.
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With that said, I do agree with what you said about Chicago. When I hear what people are known to call Detroit Techno, I think more of Chicago House. I guess I was like the people that May was complaining about. I always thought of Detroit Techno being more of the old mills and hood sound/ Old UR. That's mainely because I miss the whole first generation growing up. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:53 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 List (E-mail) Subject: RE: (313) If I just got this message. And I don't think You will get flamed, but I always question when d.j.'s blame berlin for the harder looped based techno. I always thought it was Old Mills and Hood that started that stuff. Hood later on slowed down the tempo of his tracks and mills changed all together but they really started the hard aggressive stuff along with Banks. Oh also let's don't forget about Alan Oldham. And Denham. Even though jay came later. On a side note. What do you do there for TBS? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: 313 List (E-mail) Subject: RE: (313) If this post never made it to my inbox. if it posts to the list can someone let me know privately so i don't try again? thanks. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal subject:RE: (313) If to be honest, I'd have to say chicago. there was so much interaction in the early days between the chi-town and detroit heads, as well as the oft spoken about mutual admiration/respect held for each city by the other in the early days. I understand the claims laid by the european cities as far as the amount of support they have given techno over the years, but if detroit is held up as the first city, then support cannot factor into the award at all (detroit = support HA!). as far as contributions to the sound, chicago was a major influence on the detroit sound (and vice versa) before any of the overseas heads ever got ahold of it, and continued to be a major factor in the shaping of the sound via labels like relief and their ilk. so i vote Chicago. the Berlin thing kind of disturbs me because as I see it, they were the ones that misdefined techno to the world. Derrick May was talking about this in his interview earlier ( I have to redefine the concept of techno every time I play because people come in expecting... hard edged abrasive intrusive, into-the-cortex type music while I'm coming from a really melodic, rhythmic high tech soul angle... ) I think a large part of the reason that people expect that non-melodic, abrasive, intrusive sound when they think techno is because that's what they were taught by the Berlin school (okay stockholm too) to expect. I laugh because even the creators of this music are trying to shake off that stigma many years later. I don't hold any contempt for Berlin or any of it's inhabitants (think it's one of the best places on earth right now actually) but i just feel that berlin's contributions to the advancement of techno (artistically speaking, not support-wise) are just recently comin! g into their own in the last 5 or 6 years. the berlin influence seemed to hinder that advancement early on by narrowing the techno field of vision to loopy aggressive bizness. dunno, guess i'm rambling now. hope I don't get flamed for this one. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.
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good points concerning mills and hood and those. guess i just got wound up. still say chicago though. good topic. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.
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amazing. already the decent conversation flows instead of the typical flamebait. - Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be honest, I'd have to say chicago. there was so much interaction in the early days between the chi-town and detroit heads, as well as the oft spoken about mutual admiration/respect held for each city by the other in the early days. i agree with chicago as the choice, and i think yussel actually articulated all the reasons in the best manner so far. IMO the similarities in chicago house and detroit techno are far greater than their differences. i see two problems with your argument here. One, the hard Berlin sound actually had it's genesis in detroit with jeff mills, rob hood and that crew. and everyone of the detroit figureheads have played (i believe we decided the term was) loop-bangers at some point. i'm agreeing with you that chicago should be considered city number two (or maybe number one given a more panoramic look at the question), but i see no reason to discount berlin (maybe as city number 3?) for city #3 id have to say its either london or berlin. while berlin does have quite an interesting history, especially in reguard to detroit artists and influences, london was the middle ground to getting there. without british journalism, would the chicago and detroit scenes be what they are today? i also agree that techno has been pretty heavily misrepresented by looped banger producers, but thats certainly not strictly a berlin and stockholm thing. i can think of many people still pushing that kind of thing in the uk and the us as well as many other countries (check the global techno email list for more info, though not all of those cats are strictly into looped bangers...). in my mind, detroit and chicago are like the meccas, while london and berlin are the places that have done the most with the music since its invention outside of the mecca cities. tom andythepooh.com
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Are any Chicago people going to check out REGIS on Saturday, I am really excited about that show!!! I was disappointed to see someone else in Chicago putting an interesting event on the same night, but I have to check Regis as I do like that style of techno and I don't know if I'll ever get to see him again. On a related note, I get rather annoyed when people trying to split off hard techno from the Detroit continuum, I think it all has its place and it isn't helpful to try and blame hard techno for everything wrong with techno. We don't need superstar DJs to save the world from bad techno. We just need the true music lovers to continue to do their best to support the music they love and spread the word. ~David
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-- Original Message -- From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On a related note, I get rather annoyed when people trying to split off hard techno from the Detroit continuum, I think it all has its place and it isn't helpful to try and blame hard techno for everything wrong with techno. i cant speak for everybody, but i think the bias is just because harder techno seems very insulated from other forms of techno. like yussel pointed out earlier, all of the main detroit players have played the hard stuff, and they obviously invented it as well. but they never or rarely play it exclusively, at least not now. mixing it up is whats up if youre going to play harder stuff. i think kenny larkin's set at movement was good, lots of harder loopy stuff but mixed with more melodic stuff as well. every now and then i feel like hearing a full on nothing but banging techno set, but not usually. i think most people feel that way about it on this list tom andythepooh.com
