Re: (313)search bots (was Emotion Electric shutdown)
if i make the tracklisting an image file rather than a text/html file will that stop bots from searching it? james www.jbucknell.com D B [EMAIL PROTECTED] thms.com To 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org 15/10/04 08:30 AM cc Subject Re: (313) Emotion Electric shutdown Hi All, First off, I have to say this does, suck. I enjoyed your site very much. This type of activity has been happening for quite sometime, at least on the US front. The RIAA, ASCAP, BMI all have spider bots that patrol the web and compare what they find to their database of registered users and songs, and then contact offending parties on the artists behalf, as their representative. So it probably wasn't the guys from Nu Groove, going... I'm going to get that Emotion Electric guy, as compared to that a bot, or a representative (I see plenty of visits from BMI.org and ASCAP.org in my webserver logs) comparing playlists to the databases and getting a positive match. Which is ironic as if you didn't list a playlist, then you'll probably get a harder time getting caught, then if you do, but listing the playlists have always been helpful in sales for dance music. They can get especially nasty to the people who have downloadable content as compared to just streaming, as they view that the same as Soulseek or the old Napster, or even the recent Jetgroove fiasco, as copyright issues don't care if you're making money at it, or giving it away, as the punishments are the same, regardless of money that is made or not. They'll usually go to the ISP and tell them that they'll be sued as well, unless they pull the plug on the host. The only real resolution, to being able to host or webcast what you want, is to contact each and every individual copyright owner of the physical media as well as copyright owner of the composition and publishing owner for every work that you wish to obtain, and get written permission that you are allowed to provide downloads (via seperate mp3/wave or in a mix, a download is a download from the RIAA perspective) of their music and/or webcasts of their music. If you do not get this, then you are subject to VERY heavy fines (up to $150,000 per copyright infringement, so with a mix of let's say 10 songs for download, you are lookning at a possibility 1.5 million dollars in fines and 6 years in jail), with only 1 exception for webcasters. So even if for example Jeff Mills said that it's alright for me to webcast his music, I would actually need to contact 3 seperate company's or people in order to legally webcast or allow downloads. Sometimes this can be the same person, but many times it is not, for example, one of Jeff's records' on Tresor, you would also have to get Tresor's permission as well. Obviously this is a nightmare of Red Tape to do. The 1 exception that I know of that is available for Webcastors (so wouldn't even address Emotion Electric's issues, as they were downloaded mixes correct?), is one can obtain a statuatory license. It was created by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. And this statuatory license doesn't come without a set of rules: Sound recording performance complement. A webcaster may not play in any three-hour period... • more than three songs from a particular album, including no more than two consecutively, or • four songs by a particular artist or from a boxed set, including no more than three consecutively. This limit is called the sound recording performance complement. These are just a few of the RULES that one must comply by in order to have a statuatory license. If not, then you can have the fun job of getting each individual copyright and publishing owners written permission. Now imagine these rules if you're broadcasting an party live, and tell Jeff Mills, that he can't play more then 4 of his songs in the 3 hour set, unless, he can verify that he owns both copyrights and the publishing rights to them and agrees to sign a contract saying that you can broadcast them. With the fact that the RIAA
(313) [PRESS RELEASE] NAW BURNING PARTY NOV 6th 2004
PRESS RELEASE: On Nov 6th 2004, NAW will be burned at the stake for using the 313 list as his personal PR repository, even though he has [EMAIL PROTECTED] to do with Detroit or Detroit Techno. All 313 list members are invited to attend.
Re: (313) [PRESS RELEASE] NAW BURNING PARTY NOV 6th 2004
well, someone had to say it! robin... On 18 Oct 2004, at 07:13, Greg Earle wrote: PRESS RELEASE: On Nov 6th 2004, NAW will be burned at the stake for using the 313 list as his personal PR repository, even though he has [EMAIL PROTECTED] to do with Detroit or Detroit Techno. All 313 list members are invited to attend.
(313) Hi all - was:(Re: (313) [PRESS RELEASE] NAW BURNING PARTY NOV 6th 2004)
Hi List, after having unsubbed for a couple of months, here i am again (with a new and improved email address) i'm glad to see the list is active and as sanguine as usual ;P fab. Citymorb Music http://www.citymorb.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:13 AM Subject: (313) [PRESS RELEASE] NAW BURNING PARTY NOV 6th 2004 PRESS RELEASE: On Nov 6th 2004, NAW will be burned at the stake for using the 313 list as his personal PR repository, even though he has [EMAIL PROTECTED] to do with Detroit or Detroit Techno. All 313 list members are invited to attend.
(313) Manchester UK party spam BLACKHEARTDISCO
Next BlackHeartDisco Info. Black Heart Disco ... Alternative black music ... Sub club, Major Street, off Princess Street Gay Village MCR ... Fri 29th Oct 10.30pm - 4.00am ... DJ's Danny Webb, Alex Bond, Rob Douglas Blandford ... All open minded lovers of music welcome ... £5 door / £2 guestlist by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Not sure quite what alternative black music is, but I'll do my best!! To give you an idea, here's last months playlist from me. Aaron Carl Homoerotic Brenda The Tabulations Lets Go All The Way Down Carl Craig Demented Drums2 Chez Damier Warfare Chicken Lips He Not In Dance Reaction Train Sound Dj Kent In The Bush Theo Parrish Mix Electrik Funk On a Journey Electronic Drums (RS Edit) Erotic Drum Band Jerky Rhythm ESG Moody Fantastic Four I Got To Have Your Love Farley Farley Farley Farley Farley Knows House First Choice Let No Man Put Asunder (Rons Edit) Galifree HouseBeats Hercules 7 Ways Jamie Principle Waiting On My Angel Jeanette Thomas Shake Your Body Jine Take It To The House John Rocca Move Kasso One More Round Kirk Degiorgio Untitled cdr Kleer Keep Your Body Working Liasons Dangereuses Los Ninos Del Parque Made In USA Never Let You Go (Ugly Edit) Mathew Jonson Decompression Metro Area Nerves Model 500 The Martian Search Your Feelings Moodymann You Can Dance If You Want To Mothers Finest DisGoDis... Nwaq MonkeyWorld cdr Orgue Electronic Texas Brooklyn Patti Labelle Get Ready Looking For Love PaperClip People PaperClip Man Prince Hot Thing (Extended Mix) Roy Ayers Chicago Rhythm Is Rhythm Salsa Life Rhythm Is Rhythm Relic Secondo We Got It Like That Shake Soundblaster Sparks Beat The Clock Stinkworx No Luv Taana Gardner Work That Body (Special Disco Mix) TW Funkmasters Love Money Vince Montana Jnr Close Encounters... (Magic Edit) Virgo Beats _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Manchester UK party spam BLACKHEARTDISCO
are you going to continue with your educating the people with their A,B,C's on the 1's and 2's this month then Alex? Cheers BT --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next BlackHeartDisco Info. Black Heart Disco ... Alternative black music ... Sub club, Major Street, off Princess Street Gay Village MCR ... Fri 29th Oct 10.30pm - 4.00am ... DJ's Danny Webb, Alex Bond, Rob Douglas Blandford ... All open minded lovers of music welcome ... £5 door / £2 guestlist by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Not sure quite what alternative black music is, but I'll do my best!! To give you an idea, here's last months playlist from me. Aaron Carl Homoerotic Brenda The Tabulations Lets Go All The Way Down Carl Craig Demented Drums2 Chez Damier Warfare Chicken Lips He Not In Dance Reaction Train Sound Dj Kent In The Bush Theo Parrish Mix Electrik Funk On a Journey Electronic Drums (RS Edit) Erotic Drum Band Jerky Rhythm ESG Moody Fantastic Four I Got To Have Your Love Farley Farley Farley Farley Farley Knows House First Choice Let No Man Put Asunder (Rons Edit) Galifree HouseBeats Hercules 7 Ways Jamie Principle Waiting On My Angel Jeanette Thomas Shake Your Body Jine Take It To The House John Rocca Move Kasso One More Round Kirk Degiorgio Untitled cdr Kleer Keep Your Body Working Liasons Dangereuses Los Ninos Del Parque Made In USA Never Let You Go (Ugly Edit) Mathew Jonson Decompression Metro Area Nerves Model 500 The Martian Search Your Feelings Moodymann You Can Dance If You Want To Mothers Finest DisGoDis... Nwaq MonkeyWorld cdr Orgue Electronic Texas Brooklyn Patti Labelle Get Ready Looking For Love PaperClip People PaperClip Man Prince Hot Thing (Extended Mix) Roy Ayers Chicago Rhythm Is Rhythm Salsa Life Rhythm Is Rhythm Relic Secondo We Got It Like That Shake Soundblaster Sparks Beat The Clock Stinkworx No Luv Taana Gardner Work That Body (Special Disco Mix) TW Funkmasters Love Money Vince Montana Jnr Close Encounters... (Magic Edit) Virgo Beats _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Manchester UK party spam BLACKHEARTDISCO
are you going to continue with your educating the people with their A,B,C's on the 1's and 2's this month then Alex? DJ Sesame Street is my middle name. C is for Cookie. (not crack kids, not crack) _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Naples
I'm off to Naples, can anyone point me the right direction for some good records store, new and 2nd hand. And may be a club to visit? Thanks in advance P
RE: (313) Manchester UK party spam BLACKHEARTDISCO
He'll get bottled off when he plays Ezzee Possee though... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 October 2004 08:43 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Manchester UK party spam BLACKHEARTDISCO are you going to continue with your educating the people with their A,B,C's on the 1's and 2's this month then Alex? DJ Sesame Street is my middle name. C is for Cookie. (not crack kids, not crack) _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) ain't heard this in ages.
drowsy at work... so I popped in aux88-is it man or machine. what a great pick-me-up! this stuff never gets old. :-) cheers, lee r. herrington u store it technical support specialist 440-260-2245
(313) new Los Hermanos 7
Anyone heard the new Los Hermanos 7? I quite like it, kinda had to slow it down though. Is there something wrong with me? : ) _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
I've been tonning that one all weekend, +2 as well. Loving it...and do you need to ask Alex, of course there's something wrong with you ;) Martin On 18 Oct 2004, at 14:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone heard the new Los Hermanos 7? I quite like it, kinda had to slow it down though. Is there something wrong with me? : ) _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Unclassics CD
Following on from Robins post about new records, I notice that the 'Unclassics' Cd from Environ is mixed! Should be good! http://www.environrecords.com/ Don't suppose anyone has a tracklisting anywhere do they? Also there's a new 12 coming of the same series. Good. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313)search bots (was Emotion Electric shutdown)
do a google search for robots.txt thats the way to avoid the bots. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: D B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:24 PM Subject: Re: (313)search bots (was Emotion Electric shutdown) if i make the tracklisting an image file rather than a text/html file will that stop bots from searching it? james www.jbucknell.com D B [EMAIL PROTECTED] thms.com To 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org 15/10/04 08:30 AM cc Subject Re: (313) Emotion Electric shutdown Hi All, First off, I have to say this does, suck. I enjoyed your site very much. This type of activity has been happening for quite sometime, at least on the US front. The RIAA, ASCAP, BMI all have spider bots that patrol the web and compare what they find to their database of registered users and songs, and then contact offending parties on the artists behalf, as their representative. So it probably wasn't the guys from Nu Groove, going... I'm going to get that Emotion Electric guy, as compared to that a bot, or a representative (I see plenty of visits from BMI.org and ASCAP.org in my webserver logs) comparing playlists to the databases and getting a positive match. Which is ironic as if you didn't list a playlist, then you'll probably get a harder time getting caught, then if you do, but listing the playlists have always been helpful in sales for dance music. They can get especially nasty to the people who have downloadable content as compared to just streaming, as they view that the same as Soulseek or the old Napster, or even the recent Jetgroove fiasco, as copyright issues don't care if you're making money at it, or giving it away, as the punishments are the same, regardless of money that is made or not. They'll usually go to the ISP and tell them that they'll be sued as well, unless they pull the plug on the host. The only real resolution, to being able to host or webcast what you want, is to contact each and every individual copyright owner of the physical media as well as copyright owner of the composition and publishing owner for every work that you wish to obtain, and get written permission that you are allowed to provide downloads (via seperate mp3/wave or in a mix, a download is a download from the RIAA perspective) of their music and/or webcasts of their music. If you do not get this, then you are subject to VERY heavy fines (up to $150,000 per copyright infringement, so with a mix of let's say 10 songs for download, you are lookning at a possibility 1.5 million dollars in fines and 6 years in jail), with only 1 exception for webcasters. So even if for example Jeff Mills said that it's alright for me to webcast his music, I would actually need to contact 3 seperate company's or people in order to legally webcast or allow downloads. Sometimes this can be the same person, but many times it is not, for example, one of Jeff's records' on Tresor, you would also have to get Tresor's permission as well. Obviously this is a nightmare of Red Tape to do. The 1 exception that I know of that is available for Webcastors (so wouldn't even address Emotion Electric's issues, as they were downloaded mixes correct?), is one can obtain a statuatory license. It was created by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. And this statuatory license doesn't come without a set of rules: Sound recording performance complement. A webcaster may not play in any three-hour period... • more than three songs from a particular album, including no more than two consecutively, or • four songs by a particular artist or from a boxed set, including no more than three consecutively. This limit is called the sound recording performance complement. These are just a few of the RULES that one must comply by in order to have a statuatory license. If not, then you can have the fun job of getting each individual copyright and publishing owners written permission. Now imagine these rules if you're broadcasting an party live, and tell Jeff Mills, that he can't play more then 4 of his songs in the 3 hour set, unless, he can verify that he owns both copyrights and the publishing rights to them and agrees to sign a contract saying that you can broadcast them. With the fact that the RIAA has gone after 10 year olds with Multi Million dollar lawsuits here in America, means that really, nobody is protected. As to the suggestion of hosting the site in Russia... .don't let anybody know about that either, if you really want to do it. As the actual act of uploading the files from your computer in the US or UK to the servers in Russia, is breaking the same copyrights. Now don't intrepet these as MY feelings and thoughts.
RE: (313) Unclassics CD
Think this is it... Discotheque - Disco Special Zodiac - Pacific Pluton the Humanoids - World Invaders (Hot Edit) Unrhythm Trax- Humanoid Beat Margueritas - Margherita Eurofunk - Manshortage (Eli 173 Edit) Victor - Go On and Do It Plastic Mode - Baja Imperial Dance Reaction - Disco Train (Morgan Geist Mix) Purple Flash Orchestra - Freedom Now Purple Flash - We Can Make It Gaznevada - Secret Agent Man -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 October 2004 14:40 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Unclassics CD Following on from Robins post about new records, I notice that the 'Unclassics' Cd from Environ is mixed! Should be good! http://www.environrecords.com/ Don't suppose anyone has a tracklisting anywhere do they? Also there's a new 12 coming of the same series. Good. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. . --- Information in this email may be privileged, confidential and is intended exclusively for the addressee. The views expressed may not be official policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your system. You should not reproduce, distribute, store, retransmit, use or disclose its contents to anyone. Please note we reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communication through our internal and external networks. ---
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Martin D.I've been tonning that one all weekend, +2 as well. I knew it! are you on whizz? ; ) _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Anyone heard the new Los Hermanos 7? I quite like it, kinda had to slow it down though. Is there something wrong with me? nah. you're just old. the fabrice lig remix of arne's crusade was pissing me off this weekend cause everytime i wanted to drop it, it was too fast to mix into...at -8. I mean, I can enjoy the 130-150 bpm face peeling pound-out as much as the next, but there's something about that throb that happens around 118-120 at 8 in the morning ... yeah throbbing fat techno. yeah. not really into the busier gospelier side of the 7 but the other side is HOT. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.
RE: (313) Unclassics CD
No tracklisting yet, but some hints in the blurb from their newsletter : Why UNCLASSICS? That's easy: they ain't the usual disco suspects! Morgan Geist, one half of the acclaimed production duo Metro Area and owner of the innovative Environ label, has lovingly assembled this debut DJ mix featuring a selection of his favorite obscure electronic funk and disco tracks from 1978-1985. UNCLASSICS will thrill dusty-fingered disco connoisseurs, hip lifestylers and electro neophytes alike. It's a perfectly-mixed fix of rare Italodisco (Alexander Robotnick-produced Go On Do It by Victor or Plastic Mode's Baja Imperial), hot European boogie (Geist's own remix of Dance Reaction's Disco Train), and even Soviet cosmic funk (Zoviet's Pacific) blended together seamlessly and incorporating Geist's studio mastery. Such spaced-out rarities (most available for the first time on CD) have turned heads and opened minds when played in sets from innovative DJs like Metro Area, disco don Daniel Wang (Balihu), cult hero DJ Harvey (ex-Ministry of Sound) and DJ I-F (the master behind the Mixed Up in the Hague mix CD). Despite the newest of these tracks approaching 20 years old, the playful experimentation and raw grooves sound fresher than most of the music being played in clubs today. This collection is guaranteed to stay ahead of the DJ mix CD curve with its innovative selection, painstaking remastering and eye-catching design by Julian Morey (Factory Records, The Hacienda, VOGUE). Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Monday, October 18, 2004 3:40 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : (313) Unclassics CD Following on from Robins post about new records, I notice that the 'Unclassics' Cd from Environ is mixed! Should be good! http://www.environrecords.com/ Don't suppose anyone has a tracklisting anywhere do they? Also there's a new 12 coming of the same series. Good. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Unclassics CD
http://www.juno.co.uk/IP/IF160234-01.htm has the details meant to be another unclassics 12 as well, as well as another jersey devil 12 and the kelley polar thingy...all soon cool robin... On 18 Oct 2004, at 14:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following on from Robins post about new records, I notice that the 'Unclassics' Cd from Environ is mixed! Should be good! http://www.environrecords.com/ Don't suppose anyone has a tracklisting anywhere do they?
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
nah. you're just old. the fabrice lig remix of arne's crusade was pissing me off this weekend cause everytime i wanted to drop it, it was too fast to mix into...at -8. I mean, I can enjoy the 130-150 bpm face peeling pound-out as much as the next, but there's something about that throb that happens around 118-120 at 8 in the morning ... yeah throbbing fat techno. yeah. glad i'm not the only one who thinks that way. almost certainly down to age in my case. :) robin...
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Nope, no need for chemicals when you are locked into the machines Alex - we leave the gear to the audience - more interested in re-wiring peoples heads - it sounds great at 142bmp. Great track, trying slamming it into Bones Knowhere...bang on... Martin On 18 Oct 2004, at 14:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin D.I've been tonning that one all weekend, +2 as well. I knew it! are you on whizz? ; ) _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Nope, no need for chemicals when you are locked into the machines Alex - we leave the gear to the audience - more interested in re-wiring peoples heads - it sounds great at 142bmp. I was only kiddin' Martin... I wish there was more techno that was slower. It's impossible to try and play a bit of everything when all the good newbies are dead fast. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Not like you to moan mate *s* On 18 Oct 2004, at 15:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, no need for chemicals when you are locked into the machines Alex - we leave the gear to the audience - more interested in re-wiring peoples heads - it sounds great at 142bmp. I was only kiddin' Martin... I wish there was more techno that was slower. It's impossible to try and play a bit of everything when all the good newbies are dead fast. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Backspin it man, or turn deck 1 off in time to it or do what I did at the weekend when I took the wrong record off - shout Come on! *lol* Martin On 18 Oct 2004, at 14:57, robin wrote: nah. you're just old. the fabrice lig remix of arne's crusade was pissing me off this weekend cause everytime i wanted to drop it, it was too fast to mix into...at -8. I mean, I can enjoy the 130-150 bpm face peeling pound-out as much as the next, but there's something about that throb that happens around 118-120 at 8 in the morning ... yeah throbbing fat techno. yeah. glad i'm not the only one who thinks that way. almost certainly down to age in my case. :) robin...
RE: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
I wish there was more techno that was slower. I agree. To my tastes, Robert Hood playing at Superconductor was ruined by the fact he played everything pitched up
RE: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
ahhh the backspin, Dj technique of champions! (I mean it too. ask TP:)) Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:11 AM To: robin Cc: Stoddard, Kamal; 313 List Subject: Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7 Backspin it man, or turn deck 1 off in time to it or do what I did at the weekend when I took the wrong record off - shout Come on! *lol* Martin On 18 Oct 2004, at 14:57, robin wrote: nah. you're just old. the fabrice lig remix of arne's crusade was pissing me off this weekend cause everytime i wanted to drop it, it was too fast to mix into...at -8. I mean, I can enjoy the 130-150 bpm face peeling pound-out as much as the next, but there's something about that throb that happens around 118-120 at 8 in the morning ... yeah throbbing fat techno. yeah. glad i'm not the only one who thinks that way. almost certainly down to age in my case. :) robin...
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Weatherall has the best backspin ever... On 18 Oct 2004, at 15:18, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: ahhh the backspin, Dj technique of champions! (I mean it too. ask TP:)) Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:11 AM To: robin Cc: Stoddard, Kamal; 313 List Subject: Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7 Backspin it man, or turn deck 1 off in time to it or do what I did at the weekend when I took the wrong record off - shout Come on! *lol* Martin On 18 Oct 2004, at 14:57, robin wrote: nah. you're just old. the fabrice lig remix of arne's crusade was pissing me off this weekend cause everytime i wanted to drop it, it was too fast to mix into...at -8. I mean, I can enjoy the 130-150 bpm face peeling pound-out as much as the next, but there's something about that throb that happens around 118-120 at 8 in the morning ... yeah throbbing fat techno. yeah. glad i'm not the only one who thinks that way. almost certainly down to age in my case. :) robin...
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Martin DNot like you to moan mate *s* Bwahahahah. Of course not. ; ) Ha, you thought that was a moan? But, serious point. In general, people are not interested in going to parties that play one micro genre of dance music all night. Just look around at the clubs. Christ I know tons of different people, all doing parties, and essentially alot of them are playing the same sort of thing/records. And yet certain crowds will only go to certain clubs etc. It's daft. We'll never have a good party scene again until everyone starts going to the same parties and gets off their high-horses. But, for example, there's alot of people out there who LOVE techno music. Would they go to a techno club? NO. Why not? Because it's just the same thing all night long. So they all go to different places 'eclectic' clubs. These people buy the records and the CD's, yet wouldn't set foot in a 'techno' club. I know flipping stacks of them. Take Mathew Jonson as an example. Techno music that alot of jocks can play. In alot of different clubs. Everyones going wild to it. House clubs, whatever clubs, it's almost universal techno music. A good example of a dj like this would be FK. He's picking up some of the new good techno joints and playing them. TO LIKE A BODY AND SOUL crowd! And killing it. Making them lap up more. Techno music being played to a soul/disco/garage crowd. I hope you don't misunderstand me, I'm not slagging techno clubs at all, you know I love them. It's just look at all the parties all the old heads go on about. It isn't like it used be. That's because those parties had a wider appeal to more people. They weren't dedicated to one micro-genre all night, just good danceable beats all night long. Rant over, I have to do some work. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Actually, Here's a good example. Francis Woof (of this list) does a party called That Amazing Thing in Manchester. Francis plays alot of 313 techno, and techno sounding stuff. Yet, if you ask one person in the city if That Amazing Thing was a techno party, they'd tell you you were mad. And, his crowd, I would suspect, would never go near a techno club, yet Francis is playing them the best in new and old techno, and they love it. Does that make sense? (I'm trying to make what I just said in my earlier post a little clearer) Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Hula (the Cabs)
Found a number of Hula records recently - got a bit of background info on them via allmusic.com but can anyone (Martin?) shed any light on them? Or are they pretty much a 2nd rate CV? I found their music is compelling and seems less pop oriented than Cabaret Voltaire. Sounds like their live shows were quite a sensory assault. MEK
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
It's easy to give the audience what they want, it's much harder to give them something they didn't know they wanted Steven Patrick Morrissey Dust out On 18 Oct 2004, at 15:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin DNot like you to moan mate *s* Bwahahahah. Of course not. ; ) Ha, you thought that was a moan? But, serious point. In general, people are not interested in going to parties that play one micro genre of dance music all night. Just look around at the clubs. Christ I know tons of different people, all doing parties, and essentially alot of them are playing the same sort of thing/records. And yet certain crowds will only go to certain clubs etc. It's daft. We'll never have a good party scene again until everyone starts going to the same parties and gets off their high-horses. snip
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
In general, people are not interested in going to parties that play one micro genre of dance music all night. You've not been to Minneapolis then have you... ;) MEK
(313) NAW has plenty to do with detroit techno
and if you think other wise you need to try listening to my music sometime as my music has more to do with detroit techno then 90 percent of the stuff talked about on this list... == neil wiernik aka naw [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.phoniq.net www.noisefactoryrecords.com www.pieheadrecords.com www.worthyrecords.com www.complot.ca www.clevermusic.net =
Re: (313) Hula (the Cabs)
Hula where unreal live and where named after the house the Cabs lived in... Hula Biography Based in Sheffield, England, Hula were one of the city's most prominent exponents of the independent music scene, churning out numerous albums and 12-inch singles of funky, synthesized pop for Yorkshire's Red Rhino label. Hula hinged around Mark Albrow (keyboards, tapes), Alan Fish (drums, percussion; later replaced by Nort) and Ron Wright (vocals, guitar, tapes, clarinet), helped at first by Chakk's Mark Brydon (bass, percussion). Their debut EP, 1982's Back Pop Workout, was well received, but it was a year before their debut album, Cut From Inside, was released. 1984 brought perhaps their best-known single, The Fever Car, in September, alongside a second album, Murmur In November. Get The Habit and Walk On Stalks Of Shattered Glass (for which Hula was joined by John Avery) were followed early in the new year by One Thousand Years and then Freeze Out, taken from sessions for BBC Radio 1 disc jockey John Peel. For Shadowland, Hula were aided by Adam Barnes and sleeve designer Simon Crump. This preceded Black Wall Blue in November and Poison in March 1987, produced by Daniel Miller. In May, Hula unleashed Voice, again enlisting outside help from Alan Fisch, Justin Bennett and Darrell D'Silva, to add a wider instrumental range. Cut Me Loose in August and Threshold in November meant that 1987 was Hula's busiest year; but strangely, it turned out to be their last. Red Rhino went bankrupt soon after and without the freedom the label had given them, Hula as a band disappeared, although members continued to work within Sheffield's active music scene. Discography: Cut From Inside (Red Rhino 1983)***, Murmur (Red Rhino 1984)***, One Thousand Hours (Red Rhino 1986)**, Shadowland (Red Rhino 1986)**, Voice (Red Rhino 1987)***. Solo: John Avery Jessica In The Room Of Lights (Technical 1986)***. Compilations: Threshold (Red Rhino 1987)***. On 18 Oct 2004, at 15:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found a number of Hula records recently - got a bit of background info on them via allmusic.com but can anyone (Martin?) shed any light on them? Or are they pretty much a 2nd rate CV? I found their music is compelling and seems less pop oriented than Cabaret Voltaire. Sounds like their live shows were quite a sensory assault. MEK
(313) [London] Soundslike Werk - 04/12
Matthew Herbert's Soundslike label join forces with the south London promoters/record label, Werk, on Saturday 4 December. the exact line-up and location of the party will be kept a close secret until the afternoon of Saturday 4 December. the 313-friendly portion of the line-up comes by way of a rare guest appearance from someone involved with Glasgow's best independent record store - whose longstanding ties with Detroit are well documented. the other guests are not to be sniffed at either. you might be able to work out who some of them are by perusing the following websites: www.werk-it.com www.magicandaccident.com the occasional hint may also be dropped here: http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5825
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Martin D.It's easy to give the audience what they want, it's much harder to give them something they didn't know they wanted Steven Patrick Morrissey Dust out What does that mean? Seriously, explain it, I can't work out what it means. Here's another example. Take SHAKE. In the 13 years or so I've been following this music, I could count on one hand the amout of times he's played here. The times I've seen him, he's rocked. And I tell you now, he could take the roof off the biggest party in Manchester, the Electric Chair. But, they'll never book him. Ever. Why? Because everyone thinks he's a 'techno' dj. E.g. if they put him on, they'd get three hours of bang bang bang 140 bpm 'techno'. Infact, Shake plays techno.house.disco.electronic.rock pretty much loads of different stuff, but he's sterotyped and gets rarely booked because everyone has misconceptions about him being a techno dj. Infact, Shake is a proper techno dj if you ask me, but you can't use the 'T' word, because everyone just runs a mile when they hear that word. _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
there's quite a few different things in manchester uk now that seem to have a big mix of styles in one night. question is: is anywhere else like that? i much prefer a party where there's a big range of stuff being played. and i don't think i'm alone with that preference. robin... On 18 Oct 2004, at 15:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Here's a good example. Francis Woof (of this list) does a party called That Amazing Thing in Manchester. Francis plays alot of 313 techno, and techno sounding stuff. Yet, if you ask one person in the city if That Amazing Thing was a techno party, they'd tell you you were mad. And, his crowd, I would suspect, would never go near a techno club, yet Francis is playing them the best in new and old techno, and they love it. Does that make sense? (I'm trying to make what I just said in my earlier post a little clearer) Alex
RE: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
The times I've seen him, he's rocked. And I tell you now, he could take the roof off the biggest party in Manchester, the Electric Chair. But, they'll never book him. Ever. And it's their loss.
Re: (313) NAW has plenty to do with detroit techno
and if you think other wise you need to try listening to my music sometime as my music has more to do with detroit techno then 90 percent of the stuff talked about on this list... Neil. I think Greg was rightly pointing out that you never really contribute to any discussion or anything, just post your press releases. It's not that they're not welcome (in my in-box) or anything, just that's all you seem to say. Join in! Then everyone wouldn't get the hump with you as you make the effort to contribute. sorry, I'm well on my high horse today. It's a long way down I tell you. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
Robinthere's quite a few different things in manchester uk now that seem to have a big mix of styles in one night Yes, there is. And do you know what is total madness? Everybody's playing virtually the same records, but everyone thinks (crowds particuarly) that it's one particular 'scene' that they're following. E.g. some people might only go to event's done by promoter 'x', but infact they ain't that different to the one's done by 'Y'. and there's only 200 people at each. Total feckin madness. Everyone needs to pull their head out of their ass if you ask me. _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
On 18 Oct 2004, at 15:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin D.It's easy to give the audience what they want, it's much harder to give them something they didn't know they wanted Steven Patrick Morrissey Dust out What does that mean? Seriously, explain it, I can't work out what it means. Right, over the last couple of months we've been playing the hard clubs/squats, they all have a great crowd and it's clear they love it, even if you don't. But rather than take the easy route, we've been sneaking in stuff they wouldn't normally listen to - that's what I mean by the above statement. Surgeon is the master of this, yet everyone seems to think he's all boom boom boom Boldrick voice It's clearly not the case. I can name loads of records at 140+ that have still got the funk and I know it's not for everyone but if everyone did the same mash ups, how dull would that be and I can bet you your last dollar we'd be having this discussion in reverse. We've always played what we wanted, Blue Monday into Prince into Mark Hawkins. I do know what you mean but it's not what everyone wants nor should you go chasing the masses, it won't work. Here's another example. Take SHAKE. In the 13 years or so I've been following this music, I could count on one hand the amout of times he's played here. The times I've seen him, he's rocked. And I tell you now, he could take the roof off the biggest party in Manchester, the Electric Chair. But, they'll never book him. Ever. Why? Because everyone thinks he's a 'techno' dj. E.g. if they put him on, they'd get three hours of bang bang bang 140 bpm 'techno'. That's their loss tho isnt it - if they don't know crap from clay, tough titty - why don't you put him on? Martin
RE: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
And it's their loss. It is. But really, it's ours. Because a) We don't get to see him dj b) If we want to see him, we put our hands in our pockets and do it ourselves, and get a relatively low attendance because people wouldn't come because it's a 'techno' night. And, another thing (god, I'm really on one aren't I). I still think (possibly misguidedly) that some forms of techno could be relatively accessable to alot of people. Think how many people would go mad in the hacienda to Derrick May records, think about 'Jaguar', think how FK can play techno records to thousands of people and they lap it up. But, no. The word has been ruined (admittedly this happened 15 years ago) by idiots who play nosebleed rubbish and call it techno. And all you have to do is say that word, and the heads are off into the sunset Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Hula (the Cabs)
Hula where unreal live and where named after the house the Cabs lived in... thanks Martin - I'm quite curious about this era of electronic/post-punk music (early 80s) and would love to know about more of the (2nd tier?) artists. I'm well aware of CV, Gang of Four, Certain Ratio, Fad Gadget, etc. but occasionally a group, like Hula, shows up that I missed due to either they were not promoted well (if at all) in the US or because they were too similar to a better known act. Not really interested in the EBM/dance stuff that came in the later 80s - I want to hear more experimental sounds. Any suggestions - good websites, books, or labels to look for (Cartel seemed to be the distributor for all the Hula records)? MEK
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
that's what I mean by the above statement. cool, wasn't sure, thanks. Surgeon is the master of this, yet everyone seems to think he's all boom boom boom Boldrick voice It's clearly not the case. Also cool, and also I've been meaning to check him since alot of people on the list have been speaking really highly of him in the last year or so. I admit to being in the group you describe Martin. But I trust you lots judgement and have been meaning to check him. I heard his first few records, and heard him dj years ago and just thought it was boring. But that was YEARS ago. I do know what you mean but it's not what everyone wants nor should you go chasing the masses, it won't work. I know I know, and believe me, chasing the masses is the last thing I'd do. I appreciate it's just not to many peoples taste, I was kind of referring it to an 'underground clubs' type thing, should have made that clearer. p.s. you got any tapes up anywhere of this laptop thing you do Martin? Ta Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Hula (the Cabs)
I'll dig out some links and do you a list... Martin On 18 Oct 2004, at 16:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hula where unreal live and where named after the house the Cabs lived in... thanks Martin - I'm quite curious about this era of electronic/post-punk music (early 80s) and would love to know about more of the (2nd tier?) artists. I'm well aware of CV, Gang of Four, Certain Ratio, Fad Gadget, etc. but occasionally a group, like Hula, shows up that I missed due to either they were not promoted well (if at all) in the US or because they were too similar to a better known act. Not really interested in the EBM/dance stuff that came in the later 80s - I want to hear more experimental sounds. Any suggestions - good websites, books, or labels to look for (Cartel seemed to be the distributor for all the Hula records)? MEK
(313) mp3 compression
Here's a good example. Francis (of this list) does a party called That Amazing Thing in Manchester. Francis plays a lot of 313 techno, and techno sounding stuff. Ah the perfect excuse to say I've updated our site without it being too spam flavour! And this time it actually works (note to self, next time check this before asking people to visit and give feedback). I found I filled up my webspace quicker than I thought so at present the audio is limited to 3 x 20/25 minute mixes here: http://www.thatamazingthing.com/sounds.htm I could fit more on if I compressed more - at the moment I've got them at 64kbps 24kHz and don't really want to go further however I'm a complete novice at this sort of thing - does anyone have any tips or views on what's normal?
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
I'd love a beer with you sometime - I really like your passion, you mad fcuker... Also cool, and also I've been meaning to check him since alot of people on the list have been speaking really highly of him in the last year or so. I admit to being in the group you describe Martin. But I trust you lots judgement and have been meaning to check him. I heard his first few records, and heard him dj years ago and just thought it was boring. But that was YEARS ago. Give him a try when he's at a club that is NOT known for tonning it - you may be surprised...I have a lot of respect for his work because I know he pours everything into it, he's always looking at doing something new/different and I love the strange stuff as much as the sweet. I do know what you mean but it's not what everyone wants nor should you go chasing the masses, it won't work. I know I know, and believe me, chasing the masses is the last thing I'd do. I appreciate it's just not to many peoples taste, I was kind of referring it to an 'underground clubs' type thing, should have made that clearer. I do know what you mean, but it's one hell of a job to take on... p.s. you got any tapes up anywhere of this laptop thing you do Martin? We do, but I don't think you'd dig it, it 143bmp and it's on the dark sheffield industrial side... Martin
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
I'd love a beer with you sometime Heh! I'd love to. thing is, I don't do 'a beer' I only do beerS ; ) Give him a try when he's at a club that is NOT known for tonning it I will. We do, but I don't think you'd dig it, it 143bmp and it's on the dark sheffield industrial side... Try me! You might be surprised. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the dark hard rough s**t as much as the next man, I just can't cope with 8 solid hours of it. Rough Dark hard acts I've been digging lately: ULTRADYNE DYNAREC of course : MILLS, although he's on the millsart tip lately (which I love too) if anyone has other suggestions...? _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Joris Voorn _ Future History LP (Sino)
Just listened to the tracks on his website. All really good, well produced stuff, but I can't help but feel I've all heard it before. Years ago. There's not a single track that surprised me. I must be getting old as well... Joost On 17-okt-04, at 07:52PM, Ramon Crespo wrote: I know some of you saw him at Movement. Personally I was floored by the music coming out of those speakers and now with little less than 2 weeks till the album comes out. I'm overjoyed with excitement once again. You can now hear little clips of the songs at Joris' website at www.jorisvoorn.com :) October 29th can't come soon enough and a return visit to Detroit must be setup for Movement 2005. I saw the future that day and now we can hear it.
(313) Berlin music DVD
After the discussion recently about the second city of techno I thought that some people may be interested in this - looks quite good http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?merchID=15335 Cheers BT
Re: (313)search bots (was Emotion Electric shutdown)
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 09:48:35AM -0400, /0 wrote: do a google search for robots.txt thats the way to avoid the bots. I'm afraid it's not; there's no way to prevent a bot from ignoring 'robots.txt'. Cheers, Michel
Re: (313)search bots (was Emotion Electric shutdown)
I think /0 means research the subject of robots.txt There's a good FAQ on Robot Exclusion and related topics here: http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/faq.html carl morris Plug Two t +442920190151 Michel Rijnders wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 09:48:35AM -0400, /0 wrote: do a google search for robots.txt thats the way to avoid the bots. I'm afraid it's not; there's no way to prevent a bot from ignoring 'robots.txt'. Cheers, Michel
Re: (313)search bots (was Emotion Electric shutdown) OT by now
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 06:33:50PM +0100, carl plugtwo wrote:
I think /0 means research the subject of robots.txt
There's a good FAQ on Robot Exclusion and related topics here:
http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/faq.html
The following article ('No Bots Allowed!'):
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1248105,00.asp
might be of interest as well; it also states the point I was trying to
get across:
However, the standard relies entirely on the courtesy of the visiting
robot. It's completely optional. Nothing prevents robots from simply
ignoring the directives in a robots.txt file and many robots do just
that. In that sense, a robots.txt file is less like a locked door than a
no entry sign hanging in an open doorway.
Cheers,
Michel
Re: (313)search bots (was Emotion Electric shutdown) OT by now
At 02:09 PM 10/18/2004, Michel Rijnders wrote:
The following article ('No Bots Allowed!'):
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1248105,00.asp
might be of interest as well; it also states the point I was trying to
get across:
However, the standard relies entirely on the courtesy of the visiting
robot. It's completely optional. Nothing prevents robots from simply
ignoring the directives in a robots.txt file and many robots do just
that. In that sense, a robots.txt file is less like a locked door than a
no entry sign hanging in an open doorway.
there are, of course, better ways.
-you can block certain user agents, or all except certain user agents(bots
can get around this by using a different user agent string)
-you can block certain ip blocks (this requires knowledge of which ip
blocks the bot goes in)
-you can put an image-based challenge/response thingy (you present garbled
image, human user enters the word it represents, bots fail) but these can
be fooled by bots with some trickery involving naughty web sites
--
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RE: (313)human deterrent (was Emotion Electric shutdown)
on the subject of live humans accessing the sites, would it be at all effective to, say, put an entry screen before you're admitted to the tracklisting section that says something to the effect of, by accessing this portion of our site, you agree not to hold emotion electric or it's affiliates responsible for the content of the individual tracklists and you do not represent in any way the riaa or any subsidiaries/affiliates thereof.? that was my best impression of a legal disclaimer and I'm sure it would be worded differently, but you get the idea. could anyone with more knowledge of law tell if this would be completely useless or what? just a thought, as the more I think about it, even if it was bots that got EE the first time around, there will probably be more than a few human visits should they get back up. anyone? Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.
RE: (313) Phonopsia on the radio
In case you missed it on the air, here's the archive:
http://www.phonopsia.com/mixes/TristanWatkinsPassion1079FMMix10-10-04.mp3
Tracklist
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808 State - Ride [Rephlex]
Umod - What Melody [Sonar Kollektiv]
DJ Rels - Don't U Know [Stones Throw Records]
Omar S - Untitled AOS-002 A2 [FXHE Records]
Willis - Talk to Me (Brooks' Linguist Remix) [679]
Kahil El'Zabar's Ethnic Heritage Ensemble - Running in the Streets (Charles
Webster Mix One) [Deeper Soul]
Âme - Mifune [Sonar Kollektiv]
Horror Inc. - I Plead Guilty [Perlon]
Metro Area - Metro Area 5 [Environ]
Unkown Artist - It's a Dawgs Life (Freestyle Man Old Skool Trance Mix)
[Moodmusic Limited]
Mike L. Lanoiraude - Mystic River (Charles Webster Remix) [Battle]
Impossible Beings - Too Late {Brooks' Missed It Instrumental Mix) [End
Recordings]
Karizma - Mornin (NuLife Edit) [Ricanstruction]
Tristan
===
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Hula (the Cabs)
Hula where unreal live and where named after the house the Cabs lived in... thanks Martin - I'm quite curious about this era of electronic/post-punk music (early 80s) and would love to know about more of the (2nd tier?) artists. I'm well aware of CV, Gang of Four, Certain Ratio, Fad Gadget, etc. but occasionally a group, like Hula, shows up that I missed due to either they were not promoted well (if at all) in the US or because they were too similar to a better known act. Not really interested in the EBM/dance stuff that came in the later 80s - I want to hear more experimental sounds. Any suggestions - good websites, books, or labels to look for (Cartel seemed to be the distributor for all the Hula records)? Have you checked out 23 Skidoo, early Test Department, Clock DVA/Anti-Group/TAGC, Section 25, early Severed Heads, 'Zimmerkampf'-era Moev, Nina Hagen, Annie Anxiety, Fini Tribe, He Said , early Chris Cosey, Corpses As Bedmates, Wolfgang Press/MASS/Rema Rema, Savage Republic, Cindytalk, Crispy Ambulance, Lemon Kittens, Killing Joke, SPK, Birthday Party, etc...
Re: (313) ain't heard this in ages.
YES! That album is amazing. On Monday, October 18, 2004, at 08:39 AM, lee herrington wrote: drowsy at work... so I popped in aux88-is it man or machine. what a great pick-me-up! this stuff never gets old. :-) cheers, lee r. herrington u store it technical support specialist 440-260-2245
Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7
love it On Monday, October 18, 2004, at 08:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone heard the new Los Hermanos 7? I quite like it, kinda had to slow it down though. Is there something wrong with me? : )
