(313) Last Night's Set (Long List)
Here's the set I played last night on KFJC, 89.7FM, 12M-3A. Some of the residual from this week will be showing up next week... Carl Craig Dreamland Glob. Tech Innov. Model 500 The Passage Apollo 1 Detroit Escalator Co. Tai Chi and Traffic Lights Detroit 313 Tony Drake After the MomentTexture Urban Tribe At Peace with Concrete The Collapse of Modern Culture ShakeFloating Aural Mindsweep Iconocastic Diaries Matteo Monteduro 06 Planet Amour Space Over Uptown Eddie Fowlkes Sex in Zero Gravity Red Planet 3 Octave OneThrough Darkness Point Blank Gigi GalaxyCosmic Forces As They Were... GG016A Ron Trent Atered States CC Mix Abacus Erotic Illusions Dub Fragile 12 Kenny Larkin Catatonic Second State A Martian Particle Shower Red Planet 8 Tronikhouse The Savage and Beyond Kevin Saunderson ForcefieldFaces and Phases Vol.1 InfinitiGame One Jeff Mills Axis 009 Tk B1 Scan 7 Undetectable James Pennington Black Strategy Re-Con Vice Voices Trojan Horse Ep Jeff MillsVertical Cycle 30 DJT-1000 Semi-DestroyedProgress ShakeMood Swing Mood Music Dj Assault U Can't See Me Aaron Carl Down Electro Mix Dre Brown Rejuvinated Rhythm E. TravisTechno Drivers KikomanThis Side Ulterior Motives Eddie Fowlkes Deep Pit Fowlkes Mix Octave One ModernismThe Living Key Ghetto Brothers Bass Manoevures Esp Ep Blake Baxter + Eddie Fowlkes E3 The Project Common Factor Positive Visual Paperclip PeopleRemake Uno Eddie Fowlkes + 3MB Illuminism Innerzone OrchestraEruption Programmed Dark ComedyWar of the WorldsIntergalactic Beats Regards, Richard Hester Mr. Goodwrench KFJC-FM 89.7 Los Altos Hills, CA www.kfjc.org
Re: (313) Last Night's Set (Long List)
Sorry about the formatting on that one... Richard Hester wrote: Here's the set I played last night on KFJC, 89.7FM, 12M-3A. Some of the residual from this week will be showing up next week... a mess Regards, Richard Hester Mr. Goodwrench KFJC-FM 89.7 Los Altos Hills, CA www.kfjc.org
Re: (313) italo reissues
funny thread to catch up to a few days later. taste is such a subjective thing. yeah most italo i guess (esp, for me, the stuff beyond 1984) is crapola and over the top cheese. but the great ones are great. early stuff very analog drums, overdriven, synthesized, futuristic themes.. crazy synth sounds. It's weird enough (and to an American... alien enough, culturally) to be interesting. like any genre, (ESPECIALLY techno... ) most things in a flood of releases are bad, and a very small amount of cream eventually rises to the top. 95% of it is pretty bad, like laugh out loud bad. . but that's the same with all art IMHO.. of any kind. People take dance music too seriously IMHO... you have to laugh at things that are just ridiculous. there's plenty of fun to be had... i also like to discover/uncover the oddball italo cuts or b-sides that are less well known but also fun to mix with house or techno. some of these are priced at a $2 but are worth more to me because of what i can do with them, or they represent a period of electronic music development i feel is still largely being rediscovered by people who now consider themselves Techno.OR WHATEVER... yet some of even the bad stuff has a certain charm i hold dear in the way i like synthesized, beat-box driven crude early (raw feeling, underproduced) dance music. it's innocent, tiny labels, ridiculous lyrics that make no sense, etc. some of it is just laugh out loud funny to me.. but if the music is kicking, i can deal and it makes it all the more interesting to me. i can understand some Europeans not feeling it because you heard it all along as kids, etc. It was bad radio pop and the worst of it probably tainted the quality of the early years. From an American's perspective (i think there's but a handful of us left on 313 ;) hehe... anyway here in american it hit chicago (and even detroit - most notably there Robotnik's 'Problems d'Amour'... later edited rather lamely by carl craig, but i digress) a handful of years AFTER it was already stale over in europe, and here in chicago it influenced a whole mess o' chicago house producers who liked the beats and (to their ears)... Chip E has said his early stuff was trying to imitate the italo stuff he was hearing... funny. good article in Keep On about that if you can find it. Tons of old DeepHousePage mixes by Hotmix 5, Farley, etc. have italo tracks in them. Just for some perspective, it just worked with what else they were playing at the time, and imports back then made a DJ more exclusive because they were harder to get your hands on. but all that shouldn't make you LIKE to listen to italo, everyone likes what they like. but you should at least understand it's historical importance to dance music coming from chicago and detroit. i think being from UK or europe a lot of that is - AHEM - lost in translation. this was in an era when the dance music world was not globalized to the extent it is now, when you couldn't go google and order a record from some dealer or auction site.. records were imported and a small number of italo would come in and DJs here in chicago scooped it up because it was WEIRD.. and it was robotic yet had elements of disco.. some had terrible raps, etc. (Morgan put some of those on his Unclassics CD.. for example... italo raps are an even more alien species of weirdness!). But many beat tracks of those became blueprints for basic house drumbox rhythms. that's the stuff i gravitate towards anyway... I also get them in filthy warehouses for a few bucks each.. I can't stop liking it just because others choose to pay hundreds for it. People pay way more than for original pressings of motown soul 45s and even weirder stuff so when there is limited original art of any kind, collectors spring up. don't let confuse monetary value with artistic merit to your own ears -- there's a huge difference. A record is only worth what someone is willing to pay... as is the case with rare paintings, sculpture, gemstones, etc. How much someone paid for it shouldn't affect your ability to judge it's artistic merit on it's own account. In one final note about italo.. like any genre of music i feel it's best mixed with other genres that have similar elements but are yet still different. I would tire of an 100% italo set just like i would tired of a 100% techno set, 100% acid house, etc.. it's all about throwing these curveballs into a mix and adding some variety- the better / more fun italo cuts are are weirdo things that don't sound like anything else and have a lot of energy. I've been in a dark room when Theo Parrish drop the odd italo cut here and there and it's just a fantastic accent mark on whatever else he's playing before and after it. It's not all terrible cheese, it's just early dance music that sounds weird enough to be funky... or whatever. Ken - finally about you liking
RE: (313) Lost Sunday 28th August 2005
Well, it must have something to do with his long-lasting relationship with Lost. I mean he's been playing there for over a decade, and even did things like that first Space Bass @ Bridge Tunnel for £5 entry, so it must (at least partially) be due to the strength of the relationship. How many Detroit promoters have been throwing parties that would book Jeff Mills (consistently) over the last ten years? The same is almost as true of Rob Hood (who actually lives in Detroit rather than splitting time between Chicago and Berlin), no? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lost must be one of the longest-running parties in the world (if not the longest at almost 14 years) that cater to Detroit techno. Tristan *** Right on T. I say for all it's faults (most of them fairly recent) it really ought to be recognized that Lost has played a major role in keeping a segment of 'Detroit' music alive - at least by flying a flag, but also by actually funding the producers of it with regular gigs (at I believe sensibly competitive fees). Don't forget Atkins, and of course May. The problem Lost must confront now of course, is that many of us punters and the generation of DJs we grew up with, are getting on. We won't be able prop Lost up forever (sooner or later most of us succumb to the wife/kids syndrome - I said syndrome! ;-). Or at least, corporate/career life starts to make more and more demands on our time, or some other type of responsibility does. Nor will the same thing which kept us up all night necessarily keep doing that for a crowd which might visit the institution in 5 years time, let alone ten years time. Obviously, fresh blood and new ideas are becoming imperative. Till then, I can't say I won't be back there soon because I know I will. And I'll enjoy it most likely. Ken
RE: (313) Kraftwerk and Detroit Techno Documentary
drats, that bit is idle though! -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2005 04:30 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk and Detroit Techno Documentary Well the official place is this: http://www.vpro.nl/programma/ram/afleveringen/16661400/ A more direct link goes herer: http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/vpro/ram/bb.20040321.rm? title=R.A.M%20Aflevering%2023 KJ On 16-jul-2005, at 16:13, David Smith wrote: Hi list--new e-mail account, the file is blocked, any alternate links? From: dUbspencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Kraftwerk and Detroit Techno Documentary Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:29:42 +0200 hi there... for those who are interested in this: http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=06UNUK0VWPURP2YM5YX20ZLWEA documentary of dutch tv from a a while ago, with interviews of Ralf from Kraftwerk, Derrick May, Blake Baxter and Carl Craig if u have a fast line give it a try ...200MB! have nice weekend ;) ## Notice: The information contained in this electronic mail is intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be confidential and/or privileged. If you have received this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system and kindly notify the sender. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce any part of this electronic mail or disclose its contents to any other party. ##
RE: (313) Lost Sunday 28th August 2005
Ken, I'll let Jason know that you've promoted him to wife; I'm sure he'll be pleased. ; ) --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: RE: (313) Lost Sunday 28th August 2005 Datum: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:55:14 +0100 The problem Lost must confront now of course, is that many of us punters and the generation of DJs we grew up with, are getting on. We won't be able prop Lost up forever (sooner or later most of us succumb to the wife/kids syndrome - I said syndrome! ;-). Or at least, corporate/career life starts to make more and more demands on our time, or some other type of responsibility does. Nor will the same thing which kept us up all night necessarily keep doing that for a crowd which might visit the institution in 5 years time, let alone ten years time. Obviously, fresh blood and new ideas are becoming imperative. Till then, I can't say I won't be back there soon because I know I will. And I'll enjoy it most likely. Ken -- GMX DSL = Maximale Leistung zum minimalen Preis! 2000 MB nur 2,99, Flatrate ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
RE: (313) Lost Sunday 28th August 2005
-Original Message- From: Anya K Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ken, I'll let Jason know that you've promoted him to wife; I'm sure he'll be pleased. ; ) --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- The problem Lost must confront now of course, is that many of us punters and the generation of DJs we grew up with, are getting on. We won't be able prop Lost up forever (sooner or later most of us succumb to the wife/kids syndrome - I said syndrome! ;-). Or at least, corporate/career life starts to make more and more demands on our time, or some other type of responsibility does. Nor will the same thing which kept us up all night necessarily keep doing that for a crowd which might visit the institution in 5 years time, let alone ten years time. Obviously, fresh blood and new ideas are becoming imperative. Till then, I can't say I won't be back there soon because I know I will. And I'll enjoy it most likely. Ken Heh heh! :-) I guess that could be perfectly consistent with what I said Anya. However, Lost being Lost, most of the time, the gender balance does skew to a male bias! (On topic retort to a dig! How good am I?!?) Ken
Re: (313) Lost Sunday 28th August 2005
I hear the same stuff about record sales, that old fashionned music sells less because its been the same for too long, and that young people prefer to buy stuff fitting more to their tastes (lets say some regular hard pounding techno). For the last years ive heard the 25,30 and over people saying it used to be better, young do not appreciate the good things... Err sounds like my parents. I think such parties (ive never been to Lost, but i guess what u mean) should probably try to get some smaller venues to stay successful in terms of crowd, atmosphere and music, rather than changing their musical style which obviously does not fit with anybody (promoters , attenders) linked to this event. Dont misundertand me, i like it old school. I just prefer it succesful in a small club (like that one at Moog with Jeff Mills at Sonar) rather than big and boring (example that story saying Richie Hawtin was so boring in 5000 people arena full of people expecting DJs like Adam Beyer). -- Benoît. Odeluga, Ken a écrit : Well, it must have something to do with his long-lasting relationship with Lost. I mean he's been playing there for over a decade, and even did things like that first Space Bass @ Bridge Tunnel for £5 entry, so it must (at least partially) be due to the strength of the relationship. How many Detroit promoters have been throwing parties that would book Jeff Mills (consistently) over the last ten years? The same is almost as true of Rob Hood (who actually lives in Detroit rather than splitting time between Chicago and Berlin), no? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lost must be one of the longest-running parties in the world (if not the longest at almost 14 years) that cater to Detroit techno. Tristan *** Right on T. I say for all it's faults (most of them fairly recent) it really ought to be recognized that Lost has played a major role in keeping a segment of 'Detroit' music alive - at least by flying a flag, but also by actually funding the producers of it with regular gigs (at I believe sensibly competitive fees). Don't forget Atkins, and of course May. The problem Lost must confront now of course, is that many of us punters and the generation of DJs we grew up with, are getting on. We won't be able prop Lost up forever (sooner or later most of us succumb to the wife/kids syndrome - I said syndrome! ;-). Or at least, corporate/career life starts to make more and more demands on our time, or some other type of responsibility does. Nor will the same thing which kept us up all night necessarily keep doing that for a crowd which might visit the institution in 5 years time, let alone ten years time. Obviously, fresh blood and new ideas are becoming imperative. Till then, I can't say I won't be back there soon because I know I will. And I'll enjoy it most likely. Ken
RE: (313) Lost Sunday 28th August 2005 (bit offtopic)
Sorry, did not really follow the discussion...but in order to get back to the music, i came across this: http://www.verrissen.org/mixi/surge...-03-2005-dc.mp3 2 hours of Surgeon with his Ableton madness recored at the final goodbye party from Tresor earlier this year... Did he ever play at Lost? (to make some sense on the topic:-) N-joy Martijn -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Benoît Pueyo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 18 juli 2005 19:05 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: (313) Lost Sunday 28th August 2005 I hear the same stuff about record sales, that old fashionned music sells less because its been the same for too long, and that young people prefer to buy stuff fitting more to their tastes (lets say some regular hard pounding techno). For the last years ive heard the 25,30 and over people saying it used to be better, young do not appreciate the good things... Err sounds like my parents. I think such parties (ive never been to Lost, but i guess what u mean) should probably try to get some smaller venues to stay successful in terms of crowd, atmosphere and music, rather than changing their musical style which obviously does not fit with anybody (promoters , attenders) linked to this event. Dont misundertand me, i like it old school. I just prefer it succesful in a small club (like that one at Moog with Jeff Mills at Sonar) rather than big and boring (example that story saying Richie Hawtin was so boring in 5000 people arena full of people expecting DJs like Adam Beyer). -- Benoît. Odeluga, Ken a écrit : Well, it must have something to do with his long-lasting relationship with Lost. I mean he's been playing there for over a decade, and even did things like that first Space Bass @ Bridge Tunnel for £5 entry, so it must (at least partially) be due to the strength of the relationship. How many Detroit promoters have been throwing parties that would book Jeff Mills (consistently) over the last ten years? The same is almost as true of Rob Hood (who actually lives in Detroit rather than splitting time between Chicago and Berlin), no? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lost must be one of the longest-running parties in the world (if not the longest at almost 14 years) that cater to Detroit techno. Tristan *** Right on T. I say for all it's faults (most of them fairly recent) it really ought to be recognized that Lost has played a major role in keeping a segment of 'Detroit' music alive - at least by flying a flag, but also by actually funding the producers of it with regular gigs (at I believe sensibly competitive fees). Don't forget Atkins, and of course May. The problem Lost must confront now of course, is that many of us punters and the generation of DJs we grew up with, are getting on. We won't be able prop Lost up forever (sooner or later most of us succumb to the wife/kids syndrome - I said syndrome! ;-). Or at least, corporate/career life starts to make more and more demands on our time, or some other type of responsibility does. Nor will the same thing which kept us up all night necessarily keep doing that for a crowd which might visit the institution in 5 years time, let alone ten years time. Obviously, fresh blood and new ideas are becoming imperative. Till then, I can't say I won't be back there soon because I know I will. And I'll enjoy it most likely. Ken
(313) hydrogen economy playlist 7/16
artist . song . album or LABEL cirrus . dragon lounge . counterfeit mahi mahi . let him go . remove your body tfo . fidelity . surface sounds christian bloch . leaving . new age detroit grand pubahs . sandwiches . funk all y'all deluge . nuit blanche . the metapop complex fous de la mer . wue sur la mer . stars and fishes mike uzzi and ben recht . a fitness counterrevolution . slack talk mike uzzi and ben recht . a fitness counterrevolution (ben parris remix) . slack talk daedelus f/prefuse 73 . welcome home . exquisite corpse LIVE SET DAVE KEMBLE AND TOM FOOLERY upcoming guests: POSTPONED someone else and cyhl from foundsound records 7/23 mattysteps of ri-dnb.com brings his dub and/or techno records 8/13 gys and smartypants of unlocked groove dj sets you can listen to the recording here: http://dirty.org.nyud.net:8090/~mkb/media/h2elivedavekembletomfoolery.mp3 thanks to dave and ulysses for coming by. the hydrogen economy is broadcast every saturday night at midnight US eastern (9 PM PDT) on 90.3 WRIU FM in kingston, RI. webcasts are available at www.wriu.org and (most weeks) on dirtyradio.net a podcast rss feed is available from the itunes music store http://hydrogenproject.com -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
