Re: (313) Here's one for you?
I think it also boils down to the intention when making the track too. If I'm gonna make a track for a label, then I should be willing to work with the label on fine tuning it to their liking etc. However, if a label contacts an artist asking about a track they heard on SoundCloud that they wanna put out but they'd like him to change this or that, then it's much more in the artist's favor whether or not he wants to change it (any changes are more of a favor than an obligation). On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: Well, @ Andrew: this is NOT regarding a specific situation. I am curious as to the thoughts, feelings of others on this subject...just opening up a discussion since there are a bunch of us artist types on this list...I felt like since we were going retro on the 313 list this week, I'd bring up a 'would you rather' type of question...just to add to all of our activity:) @Joe: Well put. @ Jason: Well said as well...I tend to agree with this sentiment...however, I feel like there are times that change can be good since many of us as artists tend to isolate rather than explore. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Jason Kenjar jasonk1...@gmail.com wrote: im a FIRM believer that the artist primary concer is to satisfy themselves. if others like it great! if not then they be damned. of course this kind thinking is not for marketing purposes. On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: Should an artist, working with a label (who may or may not pay them) revise a tune that they (the artist) consider a 'complete' work? And if so, how far _should_ an artist compromise in order to satisfy the desires of a label? Curious to see your answers 313ers! -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
Re: (313) Here's one for you?
Yes, I think this all depends on the feedback and requirements from the label. If these are somewhat related to a specific style that is in vogue, let's say turning the track to an euro-trance track, I doubt many artists with integrity would accept it. But if this is related to let's say track time or something similar, those are easy to accept.
Re: (313) Lets start some old topics
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Are KJ and Otto actual people? After all, they aren't on Facebook, and all actual people are on Facebook :P Who says I'm not on Facebook? Maybe I'm just underground on Facebook Those who know, know :) Otto PS In the list of classic 313 discussions: - Detroit DJs should not play Mayday. Discuss. - How do I get my hands on a SID record? Why are they not for sale for normal people? That's arrogant! - Moby = Techno And then all of these follow a similar pattern (as Sean Deason once very well observed): - huge flamewar erupts - all the usual trigger words get brought into is: race, politics, underground, sellout, etc. - eluna steps in, cleans up the entire debate in one post that summarizes everything into a conclusion that has everyone going shit, why didn't I see that - everyone shuts up because there's nothing left to say. Almost like 313's version of Godwin's Meme :)
Re: (313) Lets start some old topics
Aha - you're not on Facebook (me neither!) but I've seen you lurking about on Linkedin :) Corporate Social Networking :) JB On 4 September 2011 09:53, Otto o...@technotourist.org wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Are KJ and Otto actual people? After all, they aren't on Facebook, and all actual people are on Facebook :P Who says I'm not on Facebook? Maybe I'm just underground on Facebook Those who know, know :) Otto PS In the list of classic 313 discussions: - Detroit DJs should not play Mayday. Discuss. - How do I get my hands on a SID record? Why are they not for sale for normal people? That's arrogant! - Moby = Techno And then all of these follow a similar pattern (as Sean Deason once very well observed): - huge flamewar erupts - all the usual trigger words get brought into is: race, politics, underground, sellout, etc. - eluna steps in, cleans up the entire debate in one post that summarizes everything into a conclusion that has everyone going shit, why didn't I see that - everyone shuts up because there's nothing left to say. Almost like 313's version of Godwin's Meme :)
Re: (313) Lets start some old topics
Let us not forget, Otto might be a record collector, a TechnoTourist, competetive boatstman, but he is also a Professor of Economics. So always address him as Dr. Otto! On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 4:55 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: Aha - you're not on Facebook (me neither!) but I've seen you lurking about on Linkedin :) Corporate Social Networking :) JB On 4 September 2011 09:53, Otto o...@technotourist.org wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Are KJ and Otto actual people? After all, they aren't on Facebook, and all actual people are on Facebook :P Who says I'm not on Facebook? Maybe I'm just underground on Facebook Those who know, know :) Otto PS In the list of classic 313 discussions: - Detroit DJs should not play Mayday. Discuss. - How do I get my hands on a SID record? Why are they not for sale for normal people? That's arrogant! - Moby = Techno And then all of these follow a similar pattern (as Sean Deason once very well observed): - huge flamewar erupts - all the usual trigger words get brought into is: race, politics, underground, sellout, etc. - eluna steps in, cleans up the entire debate in one post that summarizes everything into a conclusion that has everyone going shit, why didn't I see that - everyone shuts up because there's nothing left to say. Almost like 313's version of Godwin's Meme :)
Re: (313) the drexciyan immersion project (was Re: (313) Drexciya reissues)
Well personally, I salute Frank for (finally!) coming over to the aquatic side.
Even the act of setting out on such a gargantuan task in itself shows a degree
of dedication to music which several people whom he respects think is great.
That in itself is admirable in my view.
I'm sure you'll find many more tracks to your liking.
I'm not going to give faves myself - there are simply too many; and I say that
fairly sheepishly, as it's true.
I'd just remind people of some of the late side projects which were perhaps a
little overlooked: not so much Other People Place; more like Lab Rat XL,
Shifted Phases, Transllusion (especially the very odd second LP on Rephlex) and
the very last LP - 'Hypothetical Situations' by Abstract Thought on Kombination
Research.
Aside from that, how wonderful it is to see so many of the familiar 'old' names
back on the list!
Long may it continue, I hope ;-).
Ken
- Original Message -
From: darnistle [mailto:darnis...@cafe-ebola.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 04:08 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) the drexciyan immersion project (was Re: (313) Drexciya
reissues)
I go through Drexciya-fests every now and then, though not to the extent
you are right now. Twenty-four hours of the same artist sounds arduous,
though. I can't imagine listening to that much of anyone's music,
except maybe Atom Heart or Pierre Henry.
My favorite is still Neptune's Lair, especially Running Out of Space
and Lost Vessel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwqjYhoiKzs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esOSZtSe05E
The Other People Place always hits the spot too!
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On 9/1/2011 6:34 PM, Frank Glazer wrote:
Since August 1st I've been trying to concentrate entirely on devouring
the oeuvre of Gerald Donald and James Stinson (R.I.P.). We're talking
about 24 full hours of music over about 45-50 albums, EPs, and singles
including all their various pseudonyms. The reason I am doing this is
because I find their music to be relatively tricky to wrap my head
around in general, while so many of my friends consider Stinson/Donald
to be among the best of their contemporaries. Specifically a lot of
Stinson/Donald tunes sound particularly chaotic even to my modern ears
well trained in noise, avant garde, and the repetitive loops of
minimal classical (Steve Reich, Philip Glass) and techno music. I
wondered if completely saturating my ears with only their music would
change my opinion/enlighten me to their supposed genius at all.
To date I am about halfway through the project based on mostly casual
subway ride listening, and I've not been as diligent in avoiding the
fast forward button as I'd hoped I could be. It's really difficult to
stick to one artist who produced a pretty consistent style of music
without listening to anything else for such an extended period of
time. I do occasionally give my ears a bit of a break and allow myself
to hear some non Stinson/Donald tunage.
To date Wavejumper from their 1995 Aquatic Invasion EP remains my
absolute favorite Drexciya tune:
http://youtu.be/imKh_TKqHt4
As a side note, the name I've given this experiment - Drexciyan
Immersion Project - is a kind of funny nod to the sci-fi underwater
mythology that Drexciya built around their music/built their music
around.
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Jason Kenjarjasonk1...@gmail.com wrote:
an undiscovered track or three would be nice..i can dream rite?
On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Patrick Wacher wrote:
Some interesting news on the wire:
http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2011/09/drexciya-reissues-coming-soon
Sadly, it's been nearly a decade since early '90s Detroit
techno/electro duo Drexciya last released new music. However, we've
just discovered that reissues of the pair's early material will be
surfacing in the near future. Clone Classic Cuts, the reissues imprint
for Dutch label Clone, announced just yesterday: We will reissue the
early Drexciya catalogue on Clone. We are currently busy restoring the
original master tapes, and hopefully we will have the first one ready
before the end of the year! Of course, we will keep you updated on the
process. No further details were shared, but the news itself is
certainly exciting, to say the least. (via FACT)
Re: (313) the D this weekend...
Thanks, it's one of my favorite tracks at the moment. Pretty sweet label too (scroll down for the bicep dub mix) ;-) http://soundcloud.com/nysoul Joe On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Simon contact.simon.pas...@gmail.com wrote: Nice little track on that link Joe - thanks. I've just ordered a copy from Juno :-) Simon On 04/09/2011 01:15, Joe Marougi wrote: oops sorry about that, i meant to post this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niDmM-HimJM Joe On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: http://m.youtube.com/?rdm=4nsqg3fre#/watch?bmb=1v=niDmM-HimJM Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:15 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EHf1NNbaW4 ^^^ I couldn't resist. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:10 PM To: david smith Cc: ja...@iridite.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) the D this weekend... Going to a House event in Detroit is amazing. Full of people closer to my age (I just turned 54!) -- grown-up folks, some of whom I swear I recognize from Youtube videos of the New Dance Show. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:35 AM, david smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: A few I don't know either but I doubt they are new-new, some have been around for awhile but just haven't put out a record. I've also noticed that some of the older heads don't have much of an internet presence. The house scene here has been overshadowed by techno, and now movement/paxahau too (smile). I've heard many complaints for local heads about getting slept on. Peace, DS PS I've been a subscriber to 313 for at least ten years, I just post infrequently and have changed addresses a few times. Now I have internet at my apartment, I'll try to update more often. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:24 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: So..I've heard of a few of the names below (Minx, Talley, Ester, Wilhite) but the rest are all new to me - are these new peepz or have they been around forever and I've never came across them? cheers Jason On 3 September 2011 00:12, david smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: I caught these on facebook, pretty hot Detroit House line up! There is also the Jazz festival @ Heart Plaza all labor day weekend. P-funk night (Tonight Friday) Bagley Optical 2150 Bagley Corner of 14th Detroit, MI Club Waterfalls 673 Franklin Detroit, Michigan Toe Tappin House on the River is an all day event on Saturday, September 3, 2011 - Labor Day Weekend from 2pm - 2am. This event is free until 10pm. After 10pm there will be a $10 cover. DJ Cent, Stacey Hale, Minx, Sarena Tyler, Christa Schrupp, Marc Duncan, Al Ester, Felton Howard, Mike Brown, Norm Talley, Bruce Bailey, Mike Melody, Reggie Harrell, Earl McKinney, Rick Wilhite, Andre Murph, DJ Taz, Eric Johnson, Phil Da Mixx, Malik Alston, Mondo Blaze Dwayne Jensen...
(313) New remix up for Talento+Williams Memoriam
More self-promotional mailing list spamming, but it's for a good cause -- Mike Crooker took part 2 of our Memoriam session and did a fantastic remix. He took our loose jam and made it into the track it should be. http://chaircrusher.bandcamp.com/album/memoriam
Re: (313) the D this weekend...
Is this the same Wolf records that release stuff by Chicago Dam guy? Jason On 4 September 2011 17:42, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, it's one of my favorite tracks at the moment. Pretty sweet label too (scroll down for the bicep dub mix) ;-) http://soundcloud.com/nysoul Joe On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Simon contact.simon.pas...@gmail.com wrote: Nice little track on that link Joe - thanks. I've just ordered a copy from Juno :-) Simon On 04/09/2011 01:15, Joe Marougi wrote: oops sorry about that, i meant to post this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niDmM-HimJM Joe On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: http://m.youtube.com/?rdm=4nsqg3fre#/watch?bmb=1v=niDmM-HimJM Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:15 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EHf1NNbaW4 ^^^ I couldn't resist. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:10 PM To: david smith Cc: ja...@iridite.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) the D this weekend... Going to a House event in Detroit is amazing. Full of people closer to my age (I just turned 54!) -- grown-up folks, some of whom I swear I recognize from Youtube videos of the New Dance Show. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:35 AM, david smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: A few I don't know either but I doubt they are new-new, some have been around for awhile but just haven't put out a record. I've also noticed that some of the older heads don't have much of an internet presence. The house scene here has been overshadowed by techno, and now movement/paxahau too (smile). I've heard many complaints for local heads about getting slept on. Peace, DS PS I've been a subscriber to 313 for at least ten years, I just post infrequently and have changed addresses a few times. Now I have internet at my apartment, I'll try to update more often. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:24 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: So..I've heard of a few of the names below (Minx, Talley, Ester, Wilhite) but the rest are all new to me - are these new peepz or have they been around forever and I've never came across them? cheers Jason On 3 September 2011 00:12, david smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: I caught these on facebook, pretty hot Detroit House line up! There is also the Jazz festival @ Heart Plaza all labor day weekend. P-funk night (Tonight Friday) Bagley Optical 2150 Bagley Corner of 14th Detroit, MI Club Waterfalls 673 Franklin Detroit, Michigan Toe Tappin House on the River is an all day event on Saturday, September 3, 2011 - Labor Day Weekend from 2pm - 2am. This event is free until 10pm. After 10pm there will be a $10 cover. DJ Cent, Stacey Hale, Minx, Sarena Tyler, Christa Schrupp, Marc Duncan, Al Ester, Felton Howard, Mike Brown, Norm Talley, Bruce Bailey, Mike Melody, Reggie Harrell, Earl McKinney, Rick Wilhite, Andre Murph, DJ Taz, Eric Johnson, Phil Da Mixx, Malik Alston, Mondo Blaze Dwayne Jensen...
Re: (313) the D this weekend...
I believe so... it seems as if there's a US and a UK branch? On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:40 PM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: Is this the same Wolf records that release stuff by Chicago Dam guy? Jason On 4 September 2011 17:42, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, it's one of my favorite tracks at the moment. Pretty sweet label too (scroll down for the bicep dub mix) ;-) http://soundcloud.com/nysoul Joe On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Simon contact.simon.pas...@gmail.com wrote: Nice little track on that link Joe - thanks. I've just ordered a copy from Juno :-) Simon On 04/09/2011 01:15, Joe Marougi wrote: oops sorry about that, i meant to post this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niDmM-HimJM Joe On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: http://m.youtube.com/?rdm=4nsqg3fre#/watch?bmb=1v=niDmM-HimJM Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:15 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EHf1NNbaW4 ^^^ I couldn't resist. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:10 PM To: david smith Cc: ja...@iridite.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) the D this weekend... Going to a House event in Detroit is amazing. Full of people closer to my age (I just turned 54!) -- grown-up folks, some of whom I swear I recognize from Youtube videos of the New Dance Show. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:35 AM, david smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: A few I don't know either but I doubt they are new-new, some have been around for awhile but just haven't put out a record. I've also noticed that some of the older heads don't have much of an internet presence. The house scene here has been overshadowed by techno, and now movement/paxahau too (smile). I've heard many complaints for local heads about getting slept on. Peace, DS PS I've been a subscriber to 313 for at least ten years, I just post infrequently and have changed addresses a few times. Now I have internet at my apartment, I'll try to update more often. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:24 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: So..I've heard of a few of the names below (Minx, Talley, Ester, Wilhite) but the rest are all new to me - are these new peepz or have they been around forever and I've never came across them? cheers Jason On 3 September 2011 00:12, david smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: I caught these on facebook, pretty hot Detroit House line up! There is also the Jazz festival @ Heart Plaza all labor day weekend. P-funk night (Tonight Friday) Bagley Optical 2150 Bagley Corner of 14th Detroit, MI Club Waterfalls 673 Franklin Detroit, Michigan Toe Tappin House on the River is an all day event on Saturday, September 3, 2011 - Labor Day Weekend from 2pm - 2am. This event is free until 10pm. After 10pm there will be a $10 cover. DJ Cent, Stacey Hale, Minx, Sarena Tyler, Christa Schrupp, Marc Duncan, Al Ester, Felton Howard, Mike Brown, Norm Talley, Bruce Bailey, Mike Melody, Reggie Harrell, Earl McKinney, Rick Wilhite, Andre Murph, DJ Taz, Eric Johnson, Phil Da Mixx, Malik Alston, Mondo Blaze Dwayne Jensen...
(313) not REALLY 313 related...
...but I really like Thundercat: /The Golden Age of Apocalypse/. It takes me back to the 70s without sounding too re-treadbare for me. I can't always wrap my head immediately around everything out of the Flying Lotus stable (not saying that's a bad thing at all--I like to have my ears stretched into new shapes), but this is instant gratification for me. Granted, some of that is nostalgia, but some of it is just good groove. That's all. Have a nice day. -j
(313) Claude in Portland last night
Very good set, I think he played close to two hours (I came in a little late). Close to the finish he was -jumping- in time to a track with some Very Big Beats. Big smiles all around at the end. Wish I could be in Michigan for the whatzis... fh
