RE: (313) Metro Area interview
I shared a radio show with Morgan for a while at WOBC-FM, the Oberlin College station, while Morgan was still an undergraduate there. This was 1995 or so. Morgan mixed frequently, and I still have tapes. My guess is he'd consider that blackmail material. I think they were decent enough. Among the things Morgan was high on back then was DBX and DJ Funk, as I remember it. Both styles often formed themes in the mixes. Basic channel was frequently in the mix, too. I recall trying to push Morgan to learn more about the Detroit things (Aktkins, et al) that was making crazy then, even though I lacked the deep knowledge so many of you bring to the table here on 313. He seemed really into this tape I gave him, a collage of proto ghetto tech mixes from WGPR-FM in '92. (DJ Fingers, mostly). We journeyed to Detroit itself once or twice for parties. It's possible I influenced his record buying habits very slightly (although he influenced mine immensely more). In retrospect, I'd like to think that I Made A Difference, however small. :) Morgan was a young man of broad musical tastes, even then. One thing that sticks out: He was really into bhangra. That seemed, well, *way out there* to this child of Kid Rock Country (a region better known as Downriver Detroit.) John Kohlstrand Rochester, N.Y. USA P.S. Yeah, I know, Kid is actually from Macomb County or some place north of Eight Mile. But they don't call it Taylortucky for nothing. Kid Rock: Trailer nation lifts its lonely ears to you. -Original Message- From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 11:12 AM To: J. T. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Metro Area interview Morgan used to be one of that huge cadre of net-kiddies who made tracks. I can't find the cassette from 1995/96 -- a net compilation -- that morgan had a track on... what I remember about it was that it sounded a lot like early Todd Sines, another guy just starting out in Ohio at the time ... It was pretty bare house-shuffly 909 plus some minimal jazzy chords that settles down into a groove based around a 303 squiggle. It actually was a decent track -- you could throw it into a tech-house set even now with positive results I wonder if Morgan would ever mp3 some of his early tracks, or if he considers it blackmail material now ... Completely off-topic, but I got a CDR in the mail the other day from a guy who taped me singing and playing guitar in a hippy coffee house in 1978. Now THAT is stone cold blackmail material. Allman Brothers' Melissa? *shudder* would mp3 some of that early stuff, On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, J. T. wrote: Hmm... I read it a little differently. I thought he was just saying that he isn't feeling the current techno output, not that he's not influenced by techno at all. i think that's much more accurate!! of course morgan used to make techno so of course its an influence just not as strong as it used to be. i'm sure he throws on some older stuff every now and again. he used to call dbx one of his biggest influences and love eevolute etc etc...it's just there is not a whole lot of soulful techno out there anymore, and when there is it's usually harkening back to the early 90's etc not really all that original...
RE: [313] Juan Atkins DEMF 2002 Set
From the video on the DEMF Web site, I can see he played: 0. A pretty cool spooky soft intro, but I have no idea what. 1. Cosmic Cars, Cybotron 2. Clear, Cybotron. 3. Technicolor, Channel One. 4. Something odd -- Cybotron/electro old school, but with East Asian riffs. 5. It's More Fun to Compute, Kraftwerk. Atkins was involved with the first three tracks, obviously. If someone knows what track number four was, I'd be just as curious to know as James. John Kohlstrand Rochester, N.Y. USA *** * * Update your address books to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: James Philbin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Juan Atkins DEMF 2002 Set Hi, Does any1 know the playlist for Juan's set, especially the tune near the beginning with the 'sitting in my car' vocals? Cheers for your help, James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] metro times?
First, in Juan Atkins DEMF set, I identified his fifth record as It's More Fun To Compute, when it was actually Home Computer, by Kraftwerk. Now, a point of order. Said Tristan: Metro Times is similar to many of the alternative newspapers in major metropolitan areas in the US (Chicago reader, Baltimore/Washington Citypapers, Seattle Stranger, Village Voice in NYC, etc). In most of these, you don't get the same kind of censorship you'd find in mass print. As a working stiff in mass print, I'd use the word restraint, and not censorship. MetroTimes and its alternative weekly brethren in cities across the U.S. serve different audiences than traditional daily newspapers. A newspaper like The Detroit News would not publish an ad inviting people to stop mowing your bush for the same reason CBS would not air it: Both serve general audiences that include people who 8 years old and well as people who are 88 years old. A reference to mowing your bush, would not go over well with such readers. As a result, traditional newspapers are cautious. An extreme -- but telling -- example: The Birmingham (Alabama) News recently accepted an advertisement for The Vagina Monologues, but declined to publish the word vagina as part of the ad. See: http://www.bwcitypaper.com/action.lasso?-response=/1editorialbody.lasso; -token.folder=2002-06-06-token.story=40468.14-nothing) Another example: I wrote a story last winter about a high school student who won an award for a sculpture based on a mold of her own torso. I obtained a picture of the sculpture, which was published in (Advanced Placement Art) calendars sent to high schools across the United States. But my immediate supervisor (not the government; not stockholders) judged it one nipple over the line. So we didn't use it. (I wasn't happy; it was a cool photo of a cool piece of art). This is dangerously off-topic, but I'd invite anyone who wants to discuss this further to e-mail me privately. Before you do, know this: I probably loathe big corporate-owned media more than you do (and from up close). Also, I dig alternative weekly newspapers, one of which helps keep us honest here at the big daily newspaper in Rochester, N.Y. Take care, y'all, John Kohlstrand Rochester, N.Y. USA *** * * Update your address books to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:09 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org; Jason Donnelly Subject: Re: [313] metro times? - Original Message - From: Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:26 AM Subject: [313] metro times? Morning all! Good friend recently posted over some Detroit stuff for me and included was a copy of the Metro times (May 29 - June 24, 2002). Now maybe I live a sheltered live but is it always this sexually explicit???, i.e. the Dan Savage column, the subject matter here was XXX rated, the Isadora column was X rated AND the fact the front cover was of a picture of a minor (well looks like a minor) with a her hand down her pants giving herself some sort of pleasure (didn't look like she wasn't enjoying herself) only goes to reinforce my point. Metro Times is similar to many of the alternative newspapers in major metropolitan areas in the US (Chicago reader, Baltimore/Washington Citypapers, Seattle Stranger, Village Voice in NYC, etc). In most of these, you don't get the same kind of censorship you'd find in mass print. These papers are generally free, paid for by advertising. Columns like Savage Love, News of the Weird, etc are nationally syndicated in almost all of them. The rest of the pages are packed with local cooler-than-thou art reviews and some pretty risque ads. One of my recent favorites was an ad for vaginal hair removal with a picture of someone mowing a lawn. The caption read, tired of mowing your bush? At any rate, this type of media is not limited to Detroit. These papers are generally your best resources for getting to know a US city if you're new or visiting, or if you're looking for an inexpensive penis enlargement scheme. :) Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] tunes named (RE: [313] name that tune)
This is quite a discussion. I want to thank everyone for their help. :-) JOHN KOHLSTRAND ROCHESTER, N.Y. USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 1:48 AM To: Christian Bloch; 313 Subject: Re: [313] name that tune - Original Message - From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [313] name that tune the one with the chord stab on 2 4 is 100% sure phylyps track II, so either you have the wrong idea about which track fades where ;) or box section samples... i wouldn't know After tracking down the Real Audio of Phylyps Track II, it would seem Mr. Clayton is guilty of some thievery, or at least a pretty faithful reproduction (intentional or otherwise). From the segment played in the mix, it could be either track - prolly phylyps... Sorry to confuse. I thought I'd been hearing a remix of Box Section when I heard people playing Phylyps. Clearly I had the cart in front of the horse. Box Section is interesting if nothing else, b/c it opens up quite a bit in the latter 1/2 of it. Maybe John should track both down. :) Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] name that tune
I'm wondering if y'all can help me with two tracks, actually: -- www.geocities.com/jkohlstrand/clips/cimx1.mp3 (it's the track fading from the this mix that I'm interested in). -- www.geocities.com/jkohlstrand/clips/cimx1.mp3 Both are excerpts of a Transmissions show, aired November, 1998 on CIMX-FM, Windsor. Artists? Titles? I've been wondering... Yours, JOHN KOHLSTRAND ROCHESTER, N.Y. USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] name that tune
If Geocities hung some people up, the tracks I'm trying to figure out about are now here: http://members.rpa.net/~kohlstrand/clips/cimx1.mp3 http://members.rpa.net/~kohlstrand/clips/cimx2.mp3 And both file names are correct. Sorry, JOHN KOHLSTRAND ROCHESTER, N.Y. USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mike Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:12 PM To: John Kohlstrand Subject: Re: [313] name that tune John Kohlstrand wrote: I'm wondering if y'all can help me with two tracks, actually: -- www.geocities.com/jkohlstrand/clips/cimx1.mp3 (it's the track fading from the this mix that I'm interested in). -- www.geocities.com/jkohlstrand/clips/cimx1.mp3 that's the same url - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] basic channel: mea culpa (before this quickly gets out of hand)
My bad. I pulled out everything BC I have and taken another listen: Turns out my favorite Basic Channel vinyl tracks just aren't on the CD. This would be: Octagon/Octahedre, phylyps base axis/phytyps trak, the Enforcement Mills Mix / Recall, and my favorite parts of Q 1.1 This, to me, has become Basic Channel. Y'all have a more expansive (and correct) definition. Back to your regular programming. I'll go right back to lurking. JOHN KOHLSTRAND ROCHESTER, N.Y. USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] basic channel
I'm going to expose myself as uncouth and dorky here, but, my Basic Channel question would be: Why did the Basic Channel CD suck so? (Okay, that's melodramatic. Please, no thread about how the CD ruled. Fine. Different strokes. I respect you. Respect me...) What I really mean is: The vinyl was so cool. Up. With it. Smart, yet fun. Each record built upon the previous record, and they all hung together fairly well. They sang with one voice. And while a couple of the tracks ran toward the ambient end of the spectrum, these moments seemed (to me) side salads and not entrees. But the CD: I haven't pulled it in a long time, but, as I recall, it is loaded with ambient, beatless shishing and swooshing. I found it a real disappointment -- one drum machine short of a good time. Intellectually interesting, to be sure -- all Basic Channel spoke to the mind. But listening to the CD was reading Noam Chomsky -- where the vinyl was like delving into Salon.com. Hip, smart, invigorating and approachable. My memories may be twisted, but that's how I saw it. That's like four cents, I guess. JOHN KOHLSTRAND ROCHESTER, N.Y. USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] nice electro / greets
I'm a newbie to this list. After lurking for a week, this my first post (in years... I'll explain some below). I'm a little surprised at this thread. To me, electro is so much a part of the fabric of Detroit -- the foundation for ghetto-tech, etc. Anyway, two cents on nice electro: 1. Hashim - Al Naafiysh (The Soul) -- Already mentioned, but worth emphasizing. 2. Twilight 22 - sure, Electric Kingdom, but also Siberian Nights 3. Any of several cuts by Newcleus. Jam In It, may be familiar, but check out Computer Age (Push The Button), Jam On Revenge, and Destination Earth (1999). A lovely cassette, that was. Rhino has a four part Street Jams: Electric Funk series that is fantastic. I don't think I've seen this mentioned here. Tracks that make me cry (or at least still give me goose bumps once in a while): 1. Clear, Cybotron. I can't decide between a bunch of Juan Atkins things, so why not one of the most important songs ever created in Detroit in any genre (IMO, based in part because it stood up to so much late night airplay)? 2. Octagon/Octahedre, Basic Channel. 3. Trans-Europe Express. Kraftwerk. Also, Numbers/Computer World 2. About me: I was really plugged in eight years ago. I was a card-carrying member of the Midnight Funk Association as a tyke. At my height, I had accompanied Morgan Geist to one of the Packard parties (before he got famous) and I had blabbed an awful lot on mw-raves. I do believe I even met the Marmoset. But then my career sent me to the electronica purgatory of Utica, N.Y. and I lost touch. I'm in Rochester, N.Y. now. I was able to check out DEMF last month on a visit to the folks. Inspired, I signed back up here. And I have a lot of catching up to do. Anyway, greets. A final note: Anyone have an .mp3 of Mojo doing his MFA rap? (I'll bet someone does). I would die for that. The significance of the whole thing eluded me when I was 12 and taping songs off his show. Back then, radio seemed to suck less. JOHN KOHLSTRAND ROCHESTER, N.Y. USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, I don't know Mark Gage, but I hear through the grapevine that his neighborhood is trendier than mine. JOHN KOHLSTRAND ROCHESTER, N.Y. USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
