Re: Keep it real (and on topic)
just about to unsub, some thoughts... first subbed in '93, then off and on (due to moving/travelling) the rest of the 90s, mostly on, through the 2000s Controversy has me realizing that 313 emaiI list doesn't suit my purposes of reading the couple dozen posts per year (the larger issue), which engage me. For those posting illuminating content, I am grateful, and don't want to lose your input! I'm still looking for new new music/producers of note, updates on new standout events, history/stories when they touch on the foundation, themes of Detroit techno incl. social justice issues (became aware, in early 90s through UR/Submerge scene), and concern about the welfare of the artists who have given so much. The more petty squabbling and pointless self-aggrandizement, the less I wade through these emails (missing a few things no doubt), and the more I wish to unsub, for sure. If ppl wish to stay with the list, I still think that's great, maybe we could get a comments section on the archives, and the rest of us could self-curate/tag the posts through there? Yes, fewer ppl every year care about 313 techno, the kids have long moved on to bigger sounds of trap, and newer, etc. Most of my friends from this list (incl. those with record labels, music careers) unsubbed long ago. But still some great troopers on here like Kent, legends like Andrew Duke ... how not to lose the baby with the bath water? This music still has a vital perspective that the world needs, and the increase in diversity of new producers (incl. race, gender... anyone) making it means it isn't dead, I think. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:45 PM Andrew Green wrote: > Been lurking here for a long time .. I read the emails when I’m travelling > and need space. > > I know Lerato and seeing her departure saddened me. > > I’m not qualified to have an opinion on the Derrick / Michael thing. > but it’s really bizarre and ironic that the Innovator could be catalysis > for the 313 list breaking up. I hope not ! > > > > > > On 26 Feb 2020, at 19:58, Arturo Lopez wrote: > > > > > > Yea I'm out, too. Signal/Noise ratio has not been worth slugging > through dumpster fire threads for a while now. Have fun, cheers, > everybody. > > -Arturo > > > > >
Re: (313) Ask 313
Uwe Schmidt/Lassique Bendthaus/Atom Heart, etc. etc. (couple tracks on Lassique's Cloned esp.) On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 12:23 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: OK, now that we've established that lurkers know how to send e-mail to the list ... This is an idea for a mix I'd like to do. Here's the question: What is your favorite techno that no one else seems to rate highly? Extra points for being obscure. What's my impetus? I buy a lot of records at thrift stores and from crawling around in the crates on the floor at Dave's in Chicago. I look for things that might be OK based on producer, remixer and artists. So I have a lot of records that have decent to excellent tracks on them, that for one reason or another never got much enduring attention. Since I can't crate dig in Detroit very often, I'm looking for those sorts of things, after which i can engage in Internet searchage.
(313) re:Roll Call?
on and off since '93 I just read that Gangnam Style is the most watched youtube video of all time. So to add to what was said before about the glory years of 313 being behind us, it would seem as if the last decade has been more about the rest of the world catching up and doing their own thing, than about the bleeding edge that Detroit techno concerned itself with. I still get a lot of inspiration from this 313 music, so it's as relevant to me as it ever was, and that's what counts.
(313) living on the off-grid (Packard Plant) in Detroit
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/meet-allan-hill--the-man-who-lives-in-detroit%E2%80%99s-abandoned-packard-auto-plant.html
(313) camp out with your amp out 2 this weekend
near south haven,mi los hermanos, terrence parker, mark flash, etc. etc http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?topic=57059.0 40 bucks for 3 days i'd go, but my ride fell through
Re: (313) DEMF Post-Op Thoughts
I second that it was not a great weekend overall, though sunday was a great day at the fest, could stand against any other one day at DEMFs I have known, of 6 for me. Overall, it was still a whole lot better than '06, but that was the year Paxahau took over the fest last minute. Sequence of performers, and stages the performers play on, still is terrible, there's little flow conducive to dancing or even chilling [why was Moritz on Red Bull, and not Beatport, for instance]- Red Bull is like a spring break party stage, Beatport is great for chillin with the nice grass and open view of the river]. Afterparties were just above average too. Detroit Odyssey film fest on friday was incredible, the J Dilla movie was so inspring, missed the first film tho [cycles of the machine or whatever] Then Timeline [w/Mad Mike] played a very soulful shorter set, more on the jazz tip with lots of bright, ambitious sax solos, perfect ending, just great. The Omar-s party later that night was so-so, disappointing after the raves last year, ended early after 3am. Sat. day at the fest was disappointing, Scion were good, tho muted, but the sound/setting didn't do them justice. My top were Orlando Voorn, Model 500 live, Shake, Rolando, ESP, Starski and Clutch, Larry Heard and Kirk Degiorgio at the fest. Rob Hood was too much mhs for me, but solid. Never saw him at Metroplex 25 year, or Sims either. DMX Krew never played at the afterparty at Blondie's sat. night [wasted night]. Metroplex party had logistical problems, only got to hear Sergeon, Stingray, Assault, and Juan, still a good time tho, solid party, lots of jitters and jukers showing how it's done. Monday was a big disappointment at the fest due to rain cutting off sets in the afternoon, and mediocre sets too. Model 500 was awesome, mostly for the flow of the classics, some reworking to make them snap, some hip hop courtesy of MC Nick Speed, who has a forthcoming album on UR. The visuals were straight out of star trek, the whole main stage audience was jumpin. Monday night I went to Oslo for more jukin/jittin, was not as good a vibe as Metroplex, Assault spun mostly the same set, still fun. I'd do this weekend again but skip sat. at the fest, and the afterparty at Blondie's. More on the trip from my Demented Scrawlings From DEMF-twisted tales from the underbelly of Detroit, later. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: In case anyone is interested, my $0.02, a few highlights from the long weekend: Overall this was just a so-so fest for me. A few standouts here and there but I wasn't blown away by the majority of the acts, but definitely plenty of fun moments throughout. As usual the afterparties were generally more entertaining than anything going on at the festival proper. Festival - Mark Ernestus was great, but I could still hear sound bleeding from the stage behind the amphitheater, which was a bit distracting. Enjoyed the reggae but as usual no one around to hear it at that time of day. It's unfortunate with paxahau banishing all the locals underground to the land of terrible sound quality, but caught a few sets that were quite good (Shakir, R. Hood, etc). Larry Heard was a lot of fun and was great to hear something more mellow for a Sunday afternoon. Inner City was fun, probably the best way for me to describe it. Beatport Stage - Pardon my hatoraide but I couldn't listen to more than about 30 seconds of that nonsense at any point over three days. Thought the music was 90% junk. A lot of people on that stage thought they were -very- cool, though. One of the only stages that each performer needed to bring a 30 person entourage along with them to populate the performance area. Lame. Redbull Stage - As I've found over last few years there's always something entertaining going on in that direction, even if I'm not a fan of the music it seems like everyone is having a pretty good time over there. Afterparties - Center Street Social - Got shut down around 4-ish before I really got into it. I never did get the whole story with all the other drama associated with that party, and along with the whole police thing made Saturday was a miss for me all around. Sunday - Interdimensional Transmission Party - Great venue, and an awesome crew. They've thrown some of my favorite demf-related parties (Cannonball Run) and I had an amazing time. The main room was a sweatbox though, but aside from that quite fun music and a great atmosphere. Metroplex - Didn't catch it, and none of my friends did, have yet to hear how it went. Old Miami - Apparently the place to be now? I went to it a few years ago for the early morning party and had an amazing time. Was a lot of fun, good food, and very reasonably populated (room to hang out, dance, and have conversations). By the time I got there this year there were like 500 people wall-to-wall, and a line around the block. Thankfully with the onset of rain and
(313) after Rings of Saturn screening, Juke What Yo Momma Gave You?
What's there to do in Chicago after the Rings of Saturn show tomorrow night for a dance-starved band of technophiles? Smartbar has DJ Gantman and others doing a free-before-11pm night called Juke What Yo Momma Gave You, so that's our default. If you see someone in the 313 tshirt or UR sweatshirt at the film or Smartbar, come on over and give the secret handshake. JP
Re: (313) after Rings of Saturn screening, Los Hermanos at Sonotheque
Pardon my woeful ignorance of the Chicago scene since recently returning to the midwest. But I did have the pluck to find out about the reduced admission to the Los Hermanos show tomorrow night, via the link: http://chicago.going.com/jacksonjanuary2009 See you at Sonotheque! JP On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:10 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: U... you're not going to Los Hermanos?!!! They are at Sonotheque. MEIOTIC APSERPS PRESENT JACKSON THIRD FRIDAYS AT SONOTHEQUE FRIDAY JANUARY 16TH: THE JACKSON SONOTHEQUE RELAUNCH INAUGURATION CELEBRATION LOS HERMANOS – LIVE (Underground Resistance – DETROIT) With JEROME DERRADJI (Still Music) + AUDIOPHILE vs MATTHEW MARTIN (Meiotic/MSDJZ) On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Mr. jp j...@phreak.net wrote: What's there to do in Chicago after the Rings of Saturn show tomorrow night for a dance-starved band of technophiles? Smartbar has DJ Gantman and others doing a free-before-11pm night called Juke What Yo Momma Gave You, so that's our default. If you see someone in the 313 tshirt or UR sweatshirt at the film or Smartbar, come on over and give the secret handshake. JP
(313) Woodward Dream Cruise
anyone going? http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=601708
Re: (313) Urban Farming - !music
I wonder if the Detroit group is working with Growing Power, http://growingpower.org/, a non profit in Chicago and Wisconsin started by former ABA star Will Allen. They collect farm and restaurant scraps and practice vermiculture (worm composting), use the methane gas for fuel (to heat their greenhouses and offices) and produce the most incredible organic fertilizer. JP On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very very very cool :-D more than a bit OT but I've had the feeling that urban gardening/farming would become popular again - community gardens are pretty popular where I live the shipping of food from country to country and from region to region just isn't sustainable nor economically savvy on the scale that we've built it up to I've got my garden going now and just harvested some chard and zucchini/ courgette - first cucumber is just getting ready (and it's about a foot long!), peppers are coming around, and tomatoes will follow along in a few more weeks basil has been plucked and put into a few sauces and cats have been bugging out on the catnip for the last month DIY food for life! Way to go Detroit! MEK Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/10/2008 08:04:55 AM: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7495717.stm Quite an interesting read I wonder if the idea could spread and the longevity of it. Rav To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
Re: (313) the circle of trends
If Obama wins, I think he will bring with him the return of happy hardcore as he was an early Happy League supporter there in Illinois. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendID=268741754 p.s. who is up for a roadtrip from the Bay to see Rob Hood tomorrow in LA? THIS guy. On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's hoping that there's no big resurgence of Happy Hardcore, which by the generational clock, is due for a revival I'm afraid that in certain countries it never went away Kent (hangs head in shame) Jason PS Excellent post by the way
(313) new outlets for 313 music?
The future for pre-recorded music may be troublesome... but I've read that audiobooks (whether CD or downloaded) are selling well. Maybe some Detroit or liberation lit read over some choice 313 tracks would be feasible? Personally, I'd love to hear narrative about all the overlooked, neglected technologies and strategies in this stagnant era paired with a 313 soundtrack. Hmmm http://slashdot.org/articles/07/03/22/1547252.shtml CD Music Sales Down 20% In Q1 2007 Music sales are not just falling, they're plummeting — by as much as 20% when you compare January-March 2007 with the 2006 numbers. The revenue numbers are actually worse, since CD prices are under pressure. The Wall Street Journal lists many factors contributing to the rapid decline: 800 fewer retail outlets (Tower Records' demise alone closed 89); increasingly negative attitude towards CD sales from big-box retailers (Best Buy now dedicates less floor space to CDs in favor of better-selling items); and file sharing, among others. Songs are being traded at a rate about 17 times the iTunes Store's recent rate of sales. Diminishing CD sales means that you don't have to sell as many to get on the charts. The 'Dreamgirls' movie soundtrack recently hit #1 by selling 60,000 CDs in a week, a number that wouldn't have made the top 30 in 2005.
