(313) see ya
i'm unsubscribing for a couple of months as i won't be properly online. but i'll be back! john harvey (D5)
Re: (313) Intergalactic jazz-rock ( Detroit Experiment)
yeah its the horn player, but the music is kinda future hip hop synth jazz. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:41 PM Subject: Re: (313) Intergalactic jazz-rock (Detroit Experiment) the horn player Till Bronner (just looked it up on All Music) or is this an album/tune? MEK john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 313@hyperreal.org lworld.com cc: Subject: Re: (313) Intergalactic jazz-rock (Detroit Experiment) 04/29/04 03:02 PM oh, you should definately check out till bronner - just discovered this myself!
Re: (313) viruses
i've had loads of these recently - but norten sorts them out - Original Message - From: Matt Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: Re: (313) viruses I'd be careful even with that method to be honest, as some of these viruses do genuinely send emails from people you know / trust, having infected their email systems and fired off messages to all their contacts. (ie the IP address can be genuine even if the message is not) The best indicator is really the content itself - most of these ones ask you to check an attachment, which installs the virus, and they usually just contain 3 or 4 words of text, and an obvious subject like 'read it immediately. - Original Message - From: peter mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:26 PM Subject: Re: (313) something weird/abe duque, the hand inside the glove puppet? if you're not sure wether a mail really comes from 313 or not, you can easily find out by checking the header of the mail. most part of headers get faked as well, but in the received line there's always the ip from the source of the mail. the ip of the hyperreal-server is 209.237.226.90. if you don't find this ip in any of the received lines, you can be sure that it's a virus or worm... bye, peter On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:56:53 +0100, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Just got one of those spam emails that mimics a delivery failure notice and has an attachment that supposedly contains further info. I've never opened these in the past but have trashed them on the assumption that the attachment contains a virus or the like. Anyway, what you might all wish to know is that I just got one from the following address! [EMAIL PROTECTED] My initial reaction is obviously not to open it and to warn you all. Can anyone confirm whether this is the correct response or alternatively tell me if in fact it is a bona fide message - I've never received messages in this form from hyperreal before so I'm not 100% sure whether to dismiss it or not + it seems to be totally out of any context.
Re: (313) Intergalactic jazz-rock (D etroit Experiment)
so any suggestions for good fusion jazz/rock with enough funk in it to keep it steering clear of smooth jazz? you could also check out pat metheny, tracks like:- proof tears inside full circle red sky third wind some of it is a bit weird though. i'm getting in to some really driving modern post bop jazz. so any suggestions there would be good. john
Re: (313) Intergalactic jazz-rock (D etroit Experiment)
oh, you should definately check out till bronner - just discovered this myself!
Re: (313) the future (a different approach)
i discovered that rice crispies are made from rice
Re: (313) new kenny larkin album
http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/cgi/item_detail.php?qId=100326 sounds really good!
Re: (313) new Mills
everything he does seems to HAVE to have a concept or a reason, and, at times it comes across like he makes it all up after he's made the music to market it better. (to my un-cultured eyes anyway) reading the last couple of mails i'd have to agree - does anyone fall for this bullsh*t?
Re: (313) new Mills
Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. you would also have no sense of change, and no other information if the room was completely black or blue or green or yellow or red or orange. this is not philosophy.
Re: (313) new Mills
Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. don't tell me not to comment, and don't tell me i don't get it, i do, its bullsh*t.
Re: (313) new Mills
you would, the colour. A white room has no colour so even that is stripped(smartly hinting back at my earlier mail...) no you wouldn't have any SENSE OF CHANGE and NO OTHER INFORMATION would be received by you. is black more information than white? do other colours change? -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 14:53 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited sense these things cease to exist. you would also have no sense of change, and no other information if the room was completely black or blue or green or yellow or red or orange. this is not philosophy. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) new Mills
you were the one imposing - you're telling me not to comment - Original Message - From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'john harvey' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: RE: (313) new Mills State your opinion, don't impose it - that's my message. And it wasn't even directed at you. -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 1:58 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) new Mills Right, right, I see...it's diss Mills time again!! At the end of the day, take it or leave it. If that's how HE chooses to do things, and you don't get it, then don't worry about it!! Take from it what you want. At the end of the day, the concepts don't sell the records to me, at all - but I certainly wouldn't attempt to belittle the ideas by imposing my opinion on others. Better than conceptualising about drug monkeys in a nightclub anyway - because that is just not challenging, in the slightest. don't tell me not to comment, and don't tell me i don't get it, i do, its bullsh*t. *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) new Mills
We are now verging on the 313 equivalent of debating the number of angels it's possible to fit on the tip of a pinhead! 4!
Re: (313) new Mills
you would also have no sense of change, and no other information if the room was completely black or blue or green or yellow or red or orange. Absolutely, it's the uniformity that is key. Where did I state otherwise? well, your statement seemed to be backing the argument that the colour white was used for a special reason - but i was saying that based on your argument this couldn't be true, as you seem to now agree; the uniformity of white is no different from the uniformity of any other colour. this is not philosophy. Please, let me know what is! Knowing philosophy yourself, you'll know that simple examples and thought experiments then lead onto the kind of inquiry that perhaps you mean by 'philosophy'. I'm guessing - or were you just having a dig? sorry, i was just having a dig - philosophy is too big a subject for this list! :]
Re: (313) new Mills
we all know that white is not a colour but your remark is pedantic as it doesn't relate to or change the argument in any way. once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all. thats the point i think of blue room vs white room well, your statement seemed to be backing the argument that the colour white was used for a special reason - but i was saying that based on your argument this couldn't be true, as you seem to now agree; the uniformity of white is no different from the uniformity of any other colour. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
(313) new mills
it's getting noisy in here should appeal to jeff mills fans then this is a joke.
Re: (313) new Mills
it's colour - color is the american spelling its' spelled 'color', not 'colour' -wankers ;) On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, john harvey wrote: we all know that white is not a colour but your remark is pedantic as it doesn't relate to or change the argument in any way. once again, white is not a colour...white is no colour, black is all. thats the point i think of blue room vs white room well, your statement seemed to be backing the argument that the colour white was used for a special reason - but i was saying that based on your argument this couldn't be true, as you seem to now agree; the uniformity of white is no different from the uniformity of any other colour. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) what is Detroit techno ...
Please, I didn't put any personal comments in my statement, and I'd appreciate it if you kept yours out as well. I'm not saying it's bad, or good, merely stating that there is a huge range of opinions on teh subject of techno, and one person's view of what techno is, can be completely contrary to someone els's. yeah but this isn't what brendan was saying Looks like you are an example of your very own statement, except you put personal slander in your mail :\ where? Seriously,you can't begin to classify techno by categories, yes you can. On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, john harvey wrote: it is unbelievable how so many people on this list take things completely the wrong way, and totally out of context, the statement below being a great example. The key phrase in that being stuff that Brandan Nelson thinks is good techno. Sorry, but there may be other people with differing opinions out there. Just because you think something isn't techno, doesn't mean it is or isn't. Techno is as techno does. what the fu*k are you on about? its obvious to anyone with a tiny brain that brendan didn't mean anything like what you're attempting to imply.
Re: (313) what is Detroit techno ...
catagarisation is something that human beings do automatically - it's in our nature, and the reason we do it is for convenience and efficiency. In other words it makes life alot easier. How could we communicate on this list if we didn't do it? I might want to say i don't like hard-loop techno, and we all know what that means. How would i say that without using the catagary of hard loop techno and why would i want to try and say it in a less efficient way. classifying music is no big deal, it's about the human language. we should do it, we all do it, and it would be literally insane not to. there are no drawbacks to it either - it doesn't change the music. Seriously,you can't begin to classify techno by categories, yes you can. Well, I suppose you can also tighten your ass cheeks until they can break a pencil but why would you want to? MEK
Re: (313) what is Detroit techno ...
Detroit techno sucks there is nothing wrong with this statement - he may have heard it all and doesn't like detroit techno. the catagory of detroit techno is not problematic - he is using it to tell us what kind of music he doesn't like. if he doesn't really know what he is talking about then that's all to do with his own ignorance. I only listen to Swedish techno again so what? if people are narrow minded enough to say stupid things like this then thats their tough sh*t. i personally hate swedish techno! it's like saying we shouldn't catagarise tv programs so that people don't get locked into just liking sit-coms or science documentaries, or we shouldn't classify films as being horror or thriller.
Re: (313) what is Detroit techno ...
I think you're still missing the point. The point is not to not categorize, but that categorization is in and of itself, something that promotes closed-mindedness. i think that YOU are missing the point. catagorisation is not optional - it is an inate, fundamental and essential part of the human make-up. are you honestly suggesting that it would be reasonable to live in a world where you weren't allowed to describe anything? flyers saying that tonight we are playing music - great, that could really open my mind up to bon jovi or whatever random music might be playing. or describing to someone what music you like without mentioning any catagories? er..i like..er...well i can't say because i could be promoting closed mindedness! you're right, this thread is absolutely fuc*ing crazy. we're only talking here about describing music in words. what is so difficult?
Re: (313) what is Detroit techno ...
it is unbelievable how so many people on this list take things completely the wrong way, and totally out of context, the statement below being a great example. The key phrase in that being stuff that Brandan Nelson thinks is good techno. Sorry, but there may be other people with differing opinions out there. Just because you think something isn't techno, doesn't mean it is or isn't. Techno is as techno does. what the fu*k are you on about? its obvious to anyone with a tiny brain that brendan didn't mean anything like what you're attempting to imply.
Re: (313) things / BC re-releases
fu*king unsubscribe then - Original Message - From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) things / BC re-releases I'm sorry, BUT if people are going to keep posting this kind of stuff (JOKES) I'm going to be unsubscribing here soon. I've been on here about 5 years, but lately it's just too much... to read all these off topic emails all the time. No disrespect meant to Tom (I like his music) or Alex etc. But people who may have more time on their hands at work might be forgetting that some of us have limited time to read things and this chatter really takes up quite a bit of space. By the way, staying more on topic, I was at Gramophone Records (Chicago) last night and was surprised to see all the Basic Channel/Maurizio stuff repressed at domestic US prices. If this is a US re-release who is behind this, and where are these records being made? Maybe this was mentioned and I missed it. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) things Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:14:05 + From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alex Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org anyone got any good jokes? Shamelessly copied from another list: noddy holder goes into a boutique in central brum to buy an outfit for the 1974 totp xmas special. 'owright, nod!' shouts the assistant, 'what can we dow for yow today?' nod replies, 'oid like to buy some roight special gear off yow, its gotta be woild woild woild cos its chrstmas!' the assistant goes into the back, and brings nod a pair of ultra-woild loon pants. nod tries on the loon pants and yelps 'these are fookin fantastic! oill 'ave 'em, luv!' she brings him a sexy tightfitting puce satin shirt with collars that reach as far as dudley. nod nearly wets himself in front of the mirror. 'oi tell yow wot, mate, this shirt is fookin fantastic!' the girl brings out a foot tall mirrored top hat. nod nearly jizzes in his pants. she furnishes him with her finest 11-inch tall red snakeskin platform boots. nod looks the bollocks. finally, an hour later, nod is togged up. he's ready to go, but the assistant looks him over and isnt quite happy. 'noddy', she says, 'do you know, i reckon what yow need is a kipper tie.' nod replies: 'aw, cheers, luv! milk two sugars please!'
Re: (313) This list
- but any reduction in noise that might potentially lose us valuable contributors is worth it, what might be noise to you may be important for someone else - who are you to say what noise is?
Re: (313) Live set from Detroit/Panacea online
My live set from the Detroit gig on March 13 at Panacea (with Paul Keeley and Luomo) is now online. this is a great mix dennis, can you post a playlist please? cheers, john :]
Re: (313) ..::new mix available::..
cheers, nice mix! - Original Message - From: josh23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:58 PM Subject: (313) ..::new mix available::.. hey all. i'm starting up a little project for myself to put out a new mix every month and just post it up on my site for people to download. so here is the first mix for the series... http://acre-c.com/josh23/sundaymorning/ and here is the tracklisting: taylor dupree-3.15-print ep-audio nl niederflur-nachster halt-nd2-minus a guy called gerald-voodoo ray(rmx)-voodoo ray remixes-rham records stewart walker-cover band fantasy-live extracts-persona steb sly feat. shawna sulek-mind dreams-volt1-240 volts swayzak-ping pong-swz010-swayzak records ricardo villalobos-trade (rmx)-monobox rmx vol.1-logistic records ellen allien-erdbeermund-erdbeermund-bpitch control neil landstrumm-pirate-tresor 30-tresor misc.-wireless-rocket skating ep-sender reinhard voigt-b2-trax pt.1-force inc. ricardo villalobos-bahaha hahi-alcachofa-playhouse digitalb0y-pasta dance of doom-doom ep.-dorje records unknown-A1-make this moment last-unknown sutekh-fig. 87 pt2 and pt3-incest-mille plateaux/freibank tim jackiw-colour conciousness-glaciarc ep-tundra music theorem-swarm chernobyl-th4-minus lusine-push-push ep-ghostly international donnacha-costello-A1-blue-minimise that's about it... hope everyone enjoys it! josh23 -- i am for sale. http://www.acre-c.com/josh23
Re: (313) Friday Question
why don't you just f k off Can everyone who does not want to see shake play at their party raise there hand? Thank you... On 13-mrt-04, at 0:00, Mark S. Krüx wrote: Shake, Herbert and Dan Bell [DJ] Phuture Vs. Sendex [Live] Afterparty line-upto be determined;) -- Now if I could raise a couple of folks from the dead, I'd love to see Walter Gibbons, Larry Levan and Traxx play together. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) Friday Question DJ (order of appearance TBC): Shake Kevin Saunderson Andrew Weatherall (and David Mancuso or Kenny Larkin if any of the above have to cancel) and Kraftwerk of course - and I'd pay them to play everything in their catalogue $5 at the door $2.00 drinks all night organic fruit and other foods provided MEK Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 313@hyperreal.org com cc: Subject: (313) Friday Question 03/12/04 05:24 AM You've got an unlimited budget and a great club/PA. Which 3 artists do you book to play back to back and which one live act do you go for? DJ Di'jital vs Shake vs Surgeon Reeko live Martin
(313) second techno record
and what about everone's 2nd techno record?
Re: (313) first techno record
techno - the new dance sound of detroit - Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:57 PM Subject: (313) first techno record Just out of interestWhat was the first techno record you bought ? Mine was Inner City - Big Fun double packed with an Album of remixes. 88 ?? Man that makes me feel old. Thnks Rav
Re: (313) mos 0002 ross154
until my heart stops is gorgeous! classic classic detroit via holland techno...10+ years old and still fresh for sure! yeah - this is really good!!!
Re: (313) bands
my fav band is the handsome family check out their last 3 albums. john - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:25 AM Subject: (313) bands Hello folks. I'm all buzzing this morning as I saw one of my favourite bands last night. so, I was thinking, I ain't too up on indie music or bands, can any list members recommend any good bands to listen to? I keep meaning to get some flaming lips stuff, but never seem to be able to find any vinyl when I have cash, so any other recommendations? Thanks! Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) german to english translation please?
hello, can any german list members please translate the following review for me? :- D5 - Formation One (Digital Soul Records) Dimension 5 heisst das, jedenfalls früher, und er hat schon auf Delsin releast, jetzt kommt er mit einer neuen EP für das englische Label und beginnt auf Controlled Force mit einem deep groovenden Track, der von der Spannung zwischen den harmonisch warmen Pads auf einem einfachen Groove und den zerrend-freestylenden Geräuschen lebt, die wie das Schlagen einer Seite auf Metall klingt. Ach, ein Synthesizersolo das wirklich lebt. Oscillator führt uns zurück in die Zeit als ein einziger Sound so perfekt war, dass es drumherum eigentlich nur noch wenig brauchte, denn allein er fasziniert schon so, dass selbst die schönsten Strings, den Track nur noch verzieren. Ein extrem deepes Stück Detroit. Der Titeltrack slammt etwas straighter mit trockenerem Beat aber bleibt ebenso in dieser wunderbaren Welt der Einheit von Synthesizersounds und Beats, die hier mit Harmoniewechseln noch einen Hauch Oldschool zur peitschenden 808 Snare bekommen. Brilliante Platte. http://www.digital-soul.co.uk bleed * many thanks, john harvey
Re: (313) german to english translation please?
don't worry i get it! :] - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) german to english translation please? 20/1/04 3:34 PM Odeluga, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roughly: Don't buy it *lol* Northern Wit fella, it was funny in my head anyway...
(313) house mix
i just deleted the playlist - what is the just happened that way track? john :]
Re: (313) best delsin mix
http://www.nomorewords.net/forcefield/radio.html there you go - but it often doesn't work - MARSEL!! its the 2nd one down :] - Original Message - From: Dave Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'john harvey' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 6:42 PM Subject: RE: (313) best downloaded mix 2003 ??? where can i find this one? (i heart delsin.) -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 5:28 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) best downloaded mix 2003 ??? the peel seamus delsin mix won for me
(313) sad old day
happy new year all!
Re: (313) best downloaded mix 2003 ???
the peel seamus delsin mix won for me
Re: (313) Re: hey ya?
Then you expose one group to one set of stimuli, and expose the other group to some sort of placebo. comparing hip hop to a band like placebo is a silly idea. (stupid joke)
Re: (313) 909, 808
yeah that's definately correct ken, the best thing about machine music is the contradiction between machines and soul; the amount of soul you get is made more remarkable by the knowledge and acceptance of the fact that it's coming from machines.
(313) the funky 808 drummer
don't forget the fantastic no way back by adonis. classic 808 programming at its best.
(313) track id
any uk list members watching the snooker? what is the slightly cheesy skippy foreign house track that's played during the player stats/info bit? i heard a better mix of this on hoiliday this year. john
(313) public life
another good night! well done to brendan and guy and all the other djs. it should go on longer! john
Re: (313) Drexciya haters delete
you can hear a bit at clone - the 1st one sounds really good! - Original Message - From: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: Re: (313) Drexciya haters delete Lab Rat XL - Mice Or Cyborg (Clone: CLP31 - 23445, CCD31 - 23444). how is it? any good?? Not heard it yet Alex. Saw it on Rush Hour mailout. Looking forward. But then I *am* a Drexciya addict! :-) Ken
Re: (313) Curries in Glasgow
mmm.., i'm eating a curry right now - it's better than techno! - Original Message - From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: Re: (313) Curries in Glasgow Mother India! Pah- the Spice Garden rocks like no other (and its nearer my house)! I've never eaten at the Spice Garden but Mother India certainly rocks big time so sounds like I need to check it out! The Wee Curry Shop on Ashton Lane (or Buccleuch Street for the original hardcore 10-seater home-made vibe) is also well worth checking out...
(313) software for laptop DJing
does anyone know what the best software is for DJing mp3s/wav files. i'm not too bothered about beat-matching, i just need to be able to cue up a 2nd mp3 and fade out/in. cheers, john :]
Re: (313) software for laptop DJing
thanks for the suggestions, i got hold of a copy of traktor and its really good, cheers. john :]
Re: (313) Revise in suggestion for techno music to be used in wedding march?
voice of grandmother - red planet? - Original Message - From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: RE: (313) Revise in suggestion for techno music to be used in wedding march? I'd say the first bit of Windwalker by Suburban Knight The Martian on the way out, and something like Mills' Entrance to Metropolis on the way in... Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 November 2003 08:18 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Revise in suggestion for techno music to be used in wedding march? HI all, Anybody on the list could suggest your ideal track to play for the wedding march in and also the wedding march out? It has to be about 6 minutes long for the each duration. Your techno friend in Singapore, Collin
Re: Re: (313) OT: British Airways offering $100 each way US-London for next 48 hours
do they do curries? - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Re: (313) OT: British Airways offering $100 each way US-London for next 48 hours God, I really hate to further this thread but I suppose it serves the purpose of getting statesiders to [313] gigs, so... if using travelocity to London, you absolutely have to check Air India (London is a major stop-over on the way to India from the US, and travelocity seems to house their best deals). They have sorted me so well, travelling from London to Chicago, and starting from Chicago to London. Their prices are great and the food is far superior to most airlines (esp. if vegetarian). They will always be my first stop from now on. Don't know how well they service the rest of the states, but I know for sure they do NYC. Air India yo. Give it a shot. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: Re: (313) OT: British Airways offering $100 each way US-London for next 48 hours i used travelocity.com round trip from detroit to london on british airways is $197 round trip right now. it is only on cirtian days but hell for that price i would deal with the time constraints. On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:22:06 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : This is odd. I'm planning on traveling to France this February and have been looking at airfare round-trip from Minneapolis. Can't seem to find anything cheaper than $510-550. I'm hoping the fares come down after Christmas. - Original Message - From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) OT: British Airways offering $100 each way US-London for next 48 hours was looking at airfare and daydreaming the other day. did a search from london to berlin $25 yes i did pinch myself it was still $25 -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT: British Airways offering $100 each way US-London for next 48 hours well, as it turns out if you don't live in the select cities that are included in the offer (and for some reason Minneapolis isn't on the list eventhough BA flys out of Minneapolis) it is still cheaper to fly Iceland Air MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 11/04/03 06:15 PMcc: Subject: Re: (313) OT: British Airways offering $100 each way US-London for next 48 hours Always thought the term security fee was quite humorous. It's more like an insecurity fee. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:24 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT: British Airways offering $100 each way US-London for next 48 hours $2.50 September 11 Security Fee that's the price of a cup of coffee - MEK Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org DNS.ORG cc: Subject: Re: (313) OT: British Airways offering $100 each way 11/04/03 04:49 PM US-London for next 48 hours Please respond to 313 Garrett McGrath wrote: huh? Celebrate one hundred years of flight and fly from any British Airways US gateway to London for just $100 each way (fees and restrictions apply*). --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beware that you have to fly out of New York to be able to get those prices Not only that, but the any is in bold-face, Mr. MEK :-) (That said, I love how you have to pay $100.50 - *more* than half the total round-trip fare - in taxes and government fees and the September 11 Security fee. G ... ) But erm, anyway ... hey, now there's another 313 London party to take advantage of this deal to get over for :-) - Greg
Re: (313) OT: British Airways offering $100 each way US-London for next 48 hours
On Nov 5, 2003, at 7:00 PM, john harvey wrote: do they do curries? yes and apparently fairly well from what i've heard :) i'm gonna make a curry tonight. i fancy one now!
Re: (313) Stupid OT, Completely Unrelated to 313 Post
actually, food is on topic; if there was no food, there would be no techno. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: RE: (313) Stupid OT, Completely Unrelated to 313 Post ahh Rob don't 4get that deep fried slippers are as well... -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 06/11/2003 14:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) Stupid OT, Completely Unrelated to 313 Post Baked guinea pigs are de rigeur at the moment -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:45 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Stupid OT, Completely Unrelated to 313 Post Hello, I want to have a sufficient reason to take advantage of the Brit Airways/party deal going on, so may I ask a question to anyone in the England part of the UK area...anyone know any culinary/food trends popping up that might be noteworthy to possible readers in the US? Or does anyone know Rowan Atkins personally? If anyone has any suggestions, please hit me off list please.. Danka, Steve # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc
if you get to hear the track for free three times, you could cheat by recording, to say, a stand alone cd recorder through the analogue input whilst you're auditioning the track. of course the use of d/a a/d converters would reduce sound quality a miniscule amount, but you wouldn't be able to tell. john
Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc
i don't think that genuine artists expect to make vast amounts of money. the ones that do make alot, do so because they've sold alot of records.so if you believe in capitalism and supply demand, then you would have to conclude that they do indeed deserve the sums they get. of course people like michael jackson who have made it due to their past talent have no right to expect future success unless the material warrants it. its true that money isn't the overriding factor for genuine artists, but if they get it then fairplay to them. john - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: RE: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc In the old days, we had patrons and salons. Favoured musicians and artists were subsidised so they could dedicate all their time to creativity. Those days are over. These days, after some artists and musicians have become global stars, there is too much expectation from artists who expect worldly goods and eternal glory for their efforts - in reality medicocre artists are paid way too much to produce far too little, while more talented people languish because they feel left out by the music 'industry'. Real talent ignores all of that and just gets on with it, regardless of circumstances, whether they be adverse or nurturing. It is a 20th century capitalist construct to expect to make money doing what you enjoy - nobody else expects it, so why are artists any different? Or am I being too cynical? All I can say is that great music continues to be produced, regardless of whether people make any money out of it (in fact you could argue that a lot of great music comes out of difficult times), so that must count for something. PS I have had too many glasses of shampoo, so excuse if this doesn't make any sense -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc (i tend to believe, as a producer, that all music, as a form of art, should be free and that no one should make a living as a musician) I tend to believe, as a producer and label owner, that everyone has a right to make a living in something that they enjoy and feel their talent lies. I think that saying all music should be free is ridiculous. If we make something that people enjoy, we deserve something back- so that we can go eat too! I know what you are getting at, about art being free, but we just don't live in that ideal world.. we've all got bills to pay. rant over.. kev WILD LOOPS # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc
And I feel that as globalisation calcifies in this century, the polarities which seem to be concomitant with it (again, I make no claims about causality, although I do have my personal views ;-) will become more pronounced, so the need for people to have commodity-priced music will only increase. eh? :]
Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc
suggesting that you can only have soul in your music if it's free is a bit insulting to all the soulful labels and artists that do make money. its not a question of trading soul for money. many artists never compromise and make money. anyway, for financial gain surely the compromise should be the other way - taking the soul out of the music? john - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc if you're asking *me*, I've already said I dont support dollar signs being attached to my music. thats just my own belief, and it doesnt threaten anyone else. this stemmed from me making music for years, and the anxiety that comes with releasing it, as opposed to doing it for the love of the art. my opinion only. I dont think musicians that make money from music are doing anything wrong... if I did, I'd be alienating a large number of my friends... I think money dirties the art, and I dont need record labels to distro my stuff anymore to the REAL audience. I can put it in the hands of the audience via the internet. I choose to embrace the technology instead of fighting it. I know some of you disagree, and I knew it before I sent the mail. sooo, save the counter-point emails to me, because this is my own opinion, and nothing Im trying to push on the world. I already traded the cash for the soul of my tracks, I've made my choice. and no one ever said the musicians dont DESERVE the money, but for me, selling tracks is like putting my daughter out on the corner to turn tricks. sure I COULD make money from music, but at the expense of my soul and the emotion behind the tracks. trying to address the torrent of emails I received in response in one conglomerate email, -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc (i tend to believe, as a producer, that all music, as a form of art, should be free and that no one should make a living as a musician) most musicians don't - maybe nobody should make a living off of musicians they way that unscrupulous record labels do? I think that would be a better situation. I'm not a recording artist but couldn't musician's unions be a bit stronger in fighting the status quo of contracts and payment? Seems like the larger unions are in bed with the IIRC and the major media corps. MEK
Re: (313) Does the Surgeon..
well said! :] - Original Message - From: Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: (313) Does the Surgeon.. really command 2 days worth of solid 313 postings placid
Re: (313) Does the Surgeon..
really command 2 days worth of solid 313 postings Basically yes. basically no. and based on the mix posted the other day, its not 313 related. anyone going to the telegraph thing tomorrow night? john :]
Re: (313) Does the Surgeon..
well to my understanding it supposed to be about detroit techno. john - Original Message - From: McAllister, Nic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'john harvey' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:10 AM Subject: RE: (313) Does the Surgeon.. Just interested What criteria does 313 have regarding posts? -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2003 11:04 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Does the Surgeon.. really command 2 days worth of solid 313 postings Basically yes. basically no. and based on the mix posted the other day, its not 313 related. anyone going to the telegraph thing tomorrow night? john :] The information contained in or attached to this email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. It may contain information which is confidential and/or covered by legal professional or other privilege (or other rules or laws with similar effect in jurisdictions outside England and Wales). The views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of Centrica plc, and the company, its directors, officers or employees make no representation or accept any liability for its accuracy or completeness unless expressly stated to the contrary.
Re: (313) Does the Surgeon..
detroit techno doesn't just come from detroit, so you're right - it's not about an area code, it's about a type of music. john - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: Re: (313) Does the Surgeon.. And IMHO Surge falls under that title - let not forget what techno is about, is not and never has been just an area code, try and see the bigger picture. word 30/10/03 11:31 AM john [EMAIL PROTECTED] well to my understanding it supposed to be about detroit techno. john - Original Message - From: McAllister, Nic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'john harvey' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:10 AM Subject: RE: (313) Does the Surgeon.. Just interested What criteria does 313 have regarding posts? -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2003 11:04 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Does the Surgeon.. really command 2 days worth of solid 313 postings Basically yes. basically no. and based on the mix posted the other day, its not 313 related. anyone going to the telegraph thing tomorrow night? john :] The information contained in or attached to this email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. It may contain information which is confidential and/or covered by legal professional or other privilege (or other rules or laws with similar effect in jurisdictions outside England and Wales). The views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of Centrica plc, and the company, its directors, officers or employees make no representation or accept any liability for its accuracy or completeness unless expressly stated to the contrary.
Re: (313) Does the Surgeon..
not sure what this mix was all about, as a matter of fact i dont even like techno very much any more but i have seen many a post on here that does not relate to 313 (or any techno) but has been constructive ease up don't get me wrong - i don't think this list should just be about detroit techno - it should cover related music aswell like chicago/detroit house. i just didn't like the surgeon mix, that's all. john :]
Re: (313) Does the Surgeon..
There was also a long discussion about Madchester recently. All sorts of things are discussed on this list - I should know - I am the King Of OT! look - forget it! who am i to say what can and can't be discussed! anyone heard the latest slipknot? :]
Re: (313) Does the Surgeon..
ha ha, no honestly - I like off topic. john p.s. i am into hip hop - dmx / khia - hardcore stuff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Re: (313) Does the Surgeon.. anyone heard the latest slipknot? it's wicked. got a wicked A-team sample, BA Baracus at 200bpm. whassup foool got any poppers john? I'll swap you for a sip of my water. p.s. that madchester thing was my fault. I apologise. I just tend to rant on here, related to 313 or not. so I'm guilty as charged. I'll try and keep it on topic in future. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) It gets weirder...
I'm taping that! - Original Message - From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:07 PM Subject: (313) It gets weirder... ...now Kodwo Eshun (author of More Brilliant Than The Sun) is one of the talking heads discussing Mariah's career. Have I stumbled into a parallel universe?
Re: (313) new mix online
nice selection thanks! - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: (313) new mix online so yeah i did this mix last week just messing around with a small stack of records i took with me to my mom's house where my tables are, and it turned out okay so im putting it online. did it all in one shot with extremely limited selection, hence the 5 moodymann and 4 theo parrish related records. im not entirely pleased with some of the mixes between the disco records, but i dont really care that much. its hard mixing 2 non-sequenced records together. http://www.grizzlebees.com/tom/ feel free to let me know what you think of it : ) here's the track listing: Andres - Salvador de Bahia 1 - Mahogani 3 Chairs - All Over - 3 Chairs Brett Dancer - On the Roads - Track Mode Moodymann - Sweet Yesterday (Instrumental) - Peacefrog Theo Parrish and Marsellus Pittman - Evidence of the 5th Green Foot - Track Mode Mike Clark - The Creeper - Third Ear Brian Harden - Klear Keys II - Moods Grooves Eddie Fowlkes - Get the Funk - City Boy Gary Martin - Shakin That Thang - Movin House Music Moodymann - Track 4 - Peacefrog Maxwell - Like You - White Label Rick Wade - Consortium - Funky Chocolate Members of the House - Reach Out for the Love - Underground Resistance MFSB - Love is the Message (Mr. K Re-edit) - Disco Juice ? - ? (B Side track 1 Theo Re-edit) - Ugly Edits 5 Cheryl Lynn - Got To Be Real - Columbia De La Soul - Who's Skatin' Promo - Tommy Boy Theo Parrish - Lake Shore Drive - Sound Signature Eddie Old School Fowlkes - Soul Train - City Boy Moodymann - Forevernevermore - KDJ tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Pete Tong
magazines are changing too; the free cd you used to get was always mainstream dance/trance/prog house. sales are dropping - ministry of sound mag has folded, so dj mag etc are runnung back towards the underground with their tails between their legs. ! john
(313) public life
great to meet everyone, really good night! fabric was good too. john ;]
(313) jon slocum pret-a-porter (MOUT)
anyone heard this yet? its good.
Re: (313) GPO Acid House Connection
someone should do a really early acid mix :] - Original Message - From: Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:27 AM Subject: AW: (313) GPO Acid House Connection Hi guys, this is maybe one of the most interesting conversations about acidhouse i have ever witnessed yet. Go on, please :) On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 04:43 PM, Placid wrote: Ride the rhythm, 4 - play gotto be free, garden of eden, ecstacy club, adrenalin mod, 808 state were british acid that had it goin' on. YES! Now we are talking.808 state: Deepville, Flow Coma for example, never get sick of those. Jesus loves the Acid (Acid Chant)... totally freaky track and hammered by Derrick out an the M.I. too. Speaking of, Adrenalin m.o.d what happened to Darren Mohammed (sp?) Wasn't there a Derrick May connection or collaboration back then too? memory... foggy... Track This was mixed or edited (or whatever) by Derrick. also who did that track move my body.. I think it was at the tail end of Ronny Pries excellent 'back in the days' mix,,, not really acid per se, but I totally remember that eerie sample burned into my brain from mixes around that era. More info? ... is that hard to find? The one you mean is a Mike Ink remix of Marshall Jefferson (at least i heard that). There is no info given on the vinyl and i wasn't able to spot anything about the track yet. And anyone interested in this era needs to check Placid's page of great mixes: http://www.acid-house.net/mixesframe.html Any chance you can post a tracklist on your site for Ronny's Time Warp mix? I think i know most but there's a couple i've got to track down. tracklist of timewarp: 01. kenny larkin - manik man - plus8 (plus8009LP) 02. future/past - clinically inclined (remix) - art (art 1) 03. model 500 - wanderer - transmat (ms14) 04. robotman - do da doo (remixes) - hard house dub - novamute (l12nomu35) 05. random noise generation - hysteria - 430 west (4w-120) 06. bigger than life! - world of make believe - house jam records (hja-8804) 07. fantasy ufo - fantasy (melt the speaker mix) - xl recordings (xlt-15) 08. f.u.s.e. - substance abuse - plus8 (plus8013) 09. dark comedy - war of the worlds - transmat (ms18) 10. robert armani - circus bells - dance mania (dm035) 11. redcell - active emotion - b12 (b1205) 12. f.u.s.e. - technotropic - plus8 (plus8004) 13. groove - submit to the groove (electro jack mix) - submission records (sub x 04) 14. dbx - phreak - accelerate (acc100) 15. mental mayhem - joey's riot - atmosphere (at-4) 16. choice - acid eiffel - fragile (frg-6) 17. steve poindexter - computer madness - muzique records (mr-001) 18. terrace - magic o - djax up beats (djax up 127) 19. cybersonik - technarchy (remix) - plus8 (plus8009lp) 20. ecstasy club - jesus loves the acid - swordfish (drop 1) 21. model 500 - time space transmat - metroplex (m-002) 22. bfc - galaxy - fragile (frg-2) 23. the dynamic duo - in the pocket (hip house mix) - nu groove (ng-020) 24. musto bones - this will be mine - city beat (cbft5) 25. the chosen - visions of rythm - buzz (bzzxl 106017) 26. frank de wulf - magic orchestra - music man (mmi 9011) 27. reese - bassline - network (nwkt23) 28. v.d.t. - blutsturz - container records (cr03) 29. mix masters - house express (tyree's transfer mix) - d.j. international records (dj954) 30. jam to it again II (how little) - why can't we start again (dube mix) - city limits (cl 3007) 31. inner sactuum - inner sanctuum (unseen) - axis (ax-003) 32. phuture - rise from your grave (wake da f___ up mix) - strictly rythm (sr1273) 33. 69 - ladies gentlemen - planet e (pe69-1) peace Matt MacQueen cheers, ronny
Re: FW: (313) GPO Acid House Connection
(happy mondays) The time I saw them they were the stiffest most drugged out band of losers I had ever heard. this is how real bands are supposed to be the mondays were fantastic and their music was great
Re: (313) Radio One!!!
whatever u think of dave clarke, u gotta love this video clip of him :) http://www.twstd.nl/streams/dave%20clarke%20suprise%20set.ram http://temp.muertamente.com/dave_clarke_having_good_day.wmv [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha! great clips!
Re: (313) juan atkins/big fun
what is the point of remixing big fun? derrick may did a heck of a job rmxing that track. i haven't heard may's remix john
Re: (313) UK Radio One
There was a thread on there about Fergie/Judge Jules. It says that they're playing the likes of Umek and Adam Beyer (I think these were two of the names mentioned). i think the star dj era is slowing down and these guys are just running scared. even if they did secretly like half decent music its an insult to expect us to give them even the smallest degree of respect now. john :]
Re: (313) UK Radio One
yeah! lets get em :]
Re: (313) OT tech probs
ha! ha! ha! ;} - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:49 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT tech probs Complete gibberish? SPW's back -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:49 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT tech probs have receieved a couple (but not all) email via that list that have come through as complete gibberish (seemingly random numbers and letters), anyone have any ideas what the problem might be? Thanks Dan # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Re: OT tech probs
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Re: (313) juan atkins/big fun
what is the point of remixing big fun?
(313) more stuff for sale...
sorry, me too.. Access Virus B -with latest upgrade in perfect condition. John. - Original Message - From: Erik Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:52 PM Subject: (313) For Sale: Akai S20 / Edirol UA-20 Don't mean to spam the list but this may be of interest to some of you. I'm selling some old gear that I no longer have a use for a phrase sampler and a USB audio/MIDI interface. Both are in perfect condition and include the owners manual, software, etc. Akai S20 phrase sampler: photo - http://kidraye.com/~xcopy/akai_s20.jpg specs - http://www.gearpreview.com/music/sam/s20.html Edirol UA-20 USB audio/MIDI interface: photo - http://kidraye.com/~xcopy/edirol_ua-20.jpg specs - http://www.edirol.com/products/info/ua20.html If interested, you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details and prices. Erik Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://codine.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: (313) The state of things... (was Re: New Rekkids)
true! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:52 AM Subject: (313) The state of things... (was Re: New Rekkids) Despite record sales being on a decline across the board, there is honestly no shortage of really excellent music out there - an oversaturation, really. It's just that we're bombarded by so much that unless you're a trainspotter or a DJ, the casual listener is lost in the deluge or confused by all the hair-splitting specialist subgenres. I'm a music geek, I always have been. That's why I'm in this business. Not everyone is as passionate about music as we all are. pw In a message dated 9/27/03 7:54:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apologies if this isn't all explicitly [313]. I'm getting really tired of hearing that the record industry is in a state of decline. All the shops I frequent, and the rate at which things sell out indicate anything but to me. I couldn't buy all the new releases I want if my salary was doubled.
(313) sunday night
anything happening this sunday in london? :]
Re: (313) Re: Fanny Pack
fanny doesn't mean ass in the uk. it means the front bottom. maybe this has already been said. ;] - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:29 AM Subject: Re: (313) Re: Fanny Pack I just found out that Lene Lovich was from Detroit. That's pretty cool. New Toy was ace. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: Fanny Pack Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:46 PM rolando: from their site: Fannypack are two very handsome guys and three real girls from Brooklyn, New York who make ultra fun songs that you can dance to. On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 05:39:04 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:35:33 +0200, Roland van Oorschot wrote: Hi I just heard about Fanny Pack and their single Camel Toe :) They are from Detroit, right? Does anyone know which producers are behind this (childrens) act? Check the rather funny video at: http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/videos.asp?artistID=1099218 The duration of the vid is 3:13, btw R. --- http://www.funxiun.com Rolando: They're on Tommy Boy Records out of New York which means they have major label support and distribution in North America. Two guys and two girls, think they are from NY, though. There's likely more info on the TB website. Hope this helps. Take care. Andrew .dark.elektronix. out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk Sprung http://bip-hop.com http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php? cat=BLEEP12fc_type=CD *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation http://techno.ca/cognition out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk Sprung http://bip-hop.com http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php? cat=BLEEP12fc_type=CD *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation http://techno.ca/cognition
Re: (313) OT Cruel, Sad and Funny
yeah! Personally I thought the sort of people on that site were idiots even when I was young, stupid and on drugs. And now that I'm old, sensible and straight...I still think they are idiots. Call me an old bast*rd if you like, but I will always take the pi*s out of anyone covered in vaporub and dressed like a railway engineer whilst sucking a dummy. Sorry, thats just me. Stewart - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Armchair DJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: Re: (313) OT Cruel, Sad and Funny Armchair, have you had a sense of humour bypass? First thing you should know is that isn't my site, I just found it some months ago, and as my title said it's cruel, sad and at the same time funny. And I don't really care that they are young, stupid and on drugs because lets face it - to dress like that you'd have to be. I'm of the opinion that clubs like Gatecrasher/Gods etc have done a lot of damage to the dance music scene, they've gobbled the underground and turned it into an empty fashion statement for the masses, 40 point dress codes and a high ticket prices and now they are left wondering why the clubs are empty. They've failed to support new artists and have forgotten many of the original players in a bid to grab as much money as they can along with the agents and so called big name DJ's. It's a sad state of affairs when it's more economical to fly in Red Planet from Detroit than bring a DJ up from London. And before you start I have nothing against people making a living but Oakey is on £7.5K an hour for some shows is really taking the p*ss and leaves no space for other people to come through. The media is also to blame because they are dependant on the £££ from the adverts so you never see a bad review/report. Although I should Add the people like Weatherall and Clarke don't conform to the above and seem to still be in it for the music and party rather than the pay check... And you have to ask the question of why shouldn't someone take the p*ss out of it, it deserves it IMHO. Take it easy, no-ones dead... Martin 18/7/03 12:47 AM The Armchair [EMAIL PROTECTED] nice. so is it the limp-wristedness of all those guys that made you so unhappy, or just the fact that they're all young, stupid, on drugs, and having fun? brian -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:21 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) OT Cruel, Sad and Funny This is what happens Detroit when the fat girl crying in the kitchen at a party (trance) becomes popular http://www.appf39.dsl.pipex.com/timhates/index2.htm Md __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
(313) this saturday in London
anything going on this saturday in london?
Re: (313) nights out in london
God knows! I've never done anything live before. Maybe I'll do it one day. :] BTW - John, when are we gonna see Dimension 5 do some live, soulful Detroit-influenced techno in London - regular or irregular - I'd go to that too! :p Peace, Ken
Re: (313) nights out in london
I used to go to these acid warehouse nights but I stopped going
a few years ago - too messy - in both meanings of the word!
A couple of my mates still go ('till 2 pm the next day!)
:]
Wonky... yeah:
2- ST.UP the war room STAY UP FOREVER
Liberators [chris Aaron]
scary acid-tekno :-)
(313) nights out in london
can anyone recommend any regular nights in london that play soulful detroit techno/house? are there any?
Re: (313) the weather
radiohead - hail to the thief its not out yet but its on kazza
Re: (313) techno tunes that do it
Infoworld - Juan Atkins
Re: (313) Mixes by list members
well done Micheal - this was a great idea. not many detroit mixes though! :]
(313) ReKlein
I think I heard that first track on Ceefax last night
(313) what is techno
Just wondering mister SPW why the hell you are the list because the only thing you try to do here is to us all we don't know sh*t about techno and apparently you are the only one who understands it all... I agree, I think some people are over-complicating things; this is a Detroit Techno list and there are two types in my mind - Jeff Mills hard loop techno, which is closer to the european sound, and Kenny Larkin soulful techno which I feel most people on this list are talking about. Or am I wrong?
Re: (313) Re: techno
The guy that mentioned Kenny Larkin he hasn't put out any new album in how long? I was talking about a type of music, I could have said Aril Brikha or countless others.
Re: (313) apparently there's been an update
Marsel - I think you should do this to your site!! how much versions are there? i refreshed and catched into four versions up till now some of the greatest web stuff to come around
(313) test
test
Re: [313] Is soul overrated?
soul is not overrated trance is - Original Message - According to some people they say soul is overrated? Trance is Overated what do you think?
Re: [313] $tinkworx / macho cat garage
$tinkworx is the man behind downlow records. he's from the u.s. Does anyone know anything about $tinkworx and Macho Cat Garage, who have both put out some really excellent releases recently (on Delsin, Down Low and Viewlexx)? I think I read somewhere that $tinkworx was American. And Macho Cat Garage? They both have something for Dutch labels, anyway. to add to the confusement: i've read somewhere that the artists behind macho cat garage are rusty and randy from french guyana, and that legowelt only acted as the producers. the downlow website [http://www.downlowrecords.org] refers to french guyana as well... as for $tinkworx? i'm positive that she/he/they're neither from belgium nor texas; an honorary dutchman? hmmm... _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] off topic - cubase VST help
can anyone help me? I've just upgraded from cubase on the atari st to cubase VST v.3.7 for my pentiun 166. I can't get any midi signal in or out - it shows an output bar but none of my equipment is being sequenced, and there is no input whatsoever from my controller keyboard. It's driving me crazy. my souncard is only a soundblaster 16, but I won't be using it for audio recording - just midi sequencing. Is it because it's not an official version (no dongle)? Sorry it's off subject but I'm desperate. Please mail me. john :( - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] new Raygun 12 out now!!!!!
Thanks - I didn't know it was out! john - Original Message - From: Arne Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: [313] new Raygun 12 out now! Hello folks! Just want to direct your attention to the new 12 on Raygun by John Harvey aka Dimension 5... If you are into his stuff on Delsin then you should check out Raygun 013 in every case! Wonderful techno in the vein of Kenny Larkin and B12 for example. Congratulations to John and Raygun for a superb release! Cheers, Arne -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°° - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid
I agree, this is real acid house - i.e. no distortion on the 303, unlike the newer stuff. john. I'll go for some old Chicago tracks that aren't *amazingly* obvious, but leave aside modern stuff (I do think that Jeff Mills and Mad Mike are the John Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders of the TB303 though, as evidenced on Seawolf and the Acid Rain series :) : Six Brown Brothers City Hall Dr Derelict That Sh*t's Wild Lidell Townsell Feel The Mood Mr Lee Never Gonna Change Hokus Pokus Different World (*especially* this track!) Mike 'Hitman' Wilson Bango Acid JM Silk Music Is The Key Maurice This is Acid Hot Hanas Hula Hot Hands The Porch Monkeys Hello Lover and of course the tear-jerkingly poignant I Got A Big D*ck by Maurice Joshua... Brendan | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:04 PM | To: 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless | | | hello all- | | i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some | definitive acid house tracks for downloading purposes. | i'm hoping to fill up at least a cd with mp3 tracks | so i'd appreciate as many suggestions as possible. | | THANKS | | -sam | | Without listing the numerous and obvious late 80s Chicago | classics, here are a few off the top of my head that possibly | wont make too many obvious lists, but are worth digging out again | (I often do) Actually one would probably argue that 303 baselines | aside these dont really belong in the same crate as 'Acid House', | but if youre just looking for a funky 303 trip then here you go :) | | Twister - Underground Resistance | Bang the Acid - Damon Wild and Tim Taylor | Horses - Voodoo Child (Yes I know thats Moby!) | That Sysex track off the secong Plus 8 From Our Minds to yours album. | Plasticity - Plastikman | The final Frontier - UR | Vertigo - K Alexi | | Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I | think were by the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303, | 909 and 808 made tunes, but I used to love mixing them all | together in one big sick trick acid set!! Man, I need to find my | old mix tapes :) | | Stewart | | | ___ | Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! | For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call | free on 0800 970 8890 | | | | - | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lost Weekend
Because banging dance music is not, and never will be techno. Techno is unfortunately a dirty word. I like techno, I don't like monotonous rubbish. that's right - most techno nights in the uk are jeff mills repetitive hard techno at best. where are the proper soulful detroit techno nights? where? john harvey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] IDM?/labeling music
only idiots and musical beaurocrats are prone to labeling (music) We label music to make things easier - imagine going to a record store and there is only one section:- MUSIC. Or trying to describe to someone what music you're into without mentioning any kind of label. Of course we need to label music. john - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] mix tapes
I can see what you are saying but I think if we had cdrs back in 1988 we would feel just the same about are mix tapes - the music was more special then because it was new, not because it had hiss. nowdays of cousre we can add as much analogue warmth as we want before the recording process using valve technology. john - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: [313] mix tapes loved this and thought i'd share it from maximum rock and roll Part 2: Tape Hiss= The Frequency of Love A mixtape, warm with the sonic coloration of analog, carries with it a sense of intimacy. Every person's tape deck records at a different signal-to-noise ratio, and the frequency of tape hiss varies from machine to machine. A mixtape holds the inaudible, subconscious personalization of the user's machine in the form of an ultra-high-frequency signal riding over the top of the music. This subliminally perceived hiss is a result of years of loving wear and tear on the user's machine..years of making mixtapes for relations won and lost..years of musical discovery...TAPE HISS carries with it the forethought of years of heartwrenching learning experiences. It is for this reason that the mixtape is more inherently emotional vehicle for communication than a burned CD. A CD is pristine digital audio...Zeros and ones sequenced in a manner that reproduce sounds when read by a laser that converts those bits into audible informations. Yes, those sounds may carry with them certain ideas or intentions, but there is something very cold and impersonal about a digital recording. A CD may be enjoyed equally as intensely as an audio tape, but the format carries with it a sense of detached aloofness that sets it apart from the vulnerablity of the mixtape. A CD may scratch, causing the audio to skip, but this is a very mechanical sort of defect...quite unlike the humanity of a tape which can stretch out, warping the sound..tapes can get dirty muffling the intentions of the recorded sound..tapes (like people) can snap. chris bickel mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
