Re: [313] radio

2001-10-03 Thread sound
also on WCBN 88.3FM
http://www.wcbn.org/listen.html
is Crush Collision, hosted by myself, BMG (ectomorph), and Carlos Souffront.
it's from 10pm-1am on Thursdays. sometimes we turn the first hour into
Expansions where we'll do interviews and/or play records unmixed and explain
some history or whatever. guest DJs pretty much every week.



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Re: [313] radio

2001-10-03 Thread sound
also on WCBN 88.3FM
http://www.wcbn.org/listen.html
is Crush Collision, hosted by myself, BMG (ectomorph), and Carlos Souffront.
it's from 10pm-1am on Thursdays. sometimes we turn the first hour into
Expansions where we'll do interviews and/or play records unmixed and explain
some history or whatever. guest DJs pretty much every week.



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Re: [313] hiphop/idm

2001-10-02 Thread sound
speaking of which, the new 12 on Throw (#1008, a white label) has a kinda
hiphop/idm sounding track


  The last issue of URB (Bjork on the cover) also had a
 nice piece about the influence of Hip Hop (or 'bling
 bling) on IDM (guess you could say the influence of
 bling bling on blip bloop..hehe). They talk to Kid
 606, Matmos and Cex on the topic. I was really happy
 to see this article, as the genre's influence on one
 another has been especially present recently (check
 out the new Dntel on Plug Research, some tracks also
 show this).It was refreshing to see it spoken about in
 URB. The article even touches on yet another white
 genre being influence by black music (the article
 praises Timbaland and the early productions of Dr.Tre
 to name a few).

  The issue also has a nice article by Tamara Palmer on
 Bjork, which concentrates on Bjork's musical
 background and the audiofile side of her personality.

 ttfn
 diana
 ps...gee...a feature on rich...hmmm..that's new.;)










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[313] metroplex #1 question...

2001-09-27 Thread sound
the original pressing of Metroplex 1 (M-001) has a matrix # of AR-7034. i'm
assuming that this first record was done totally through Archer (cutting, as
well as pressing) and that's why it has this #.unless someone knows
different?



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Re: [313] we kan never be satisfied

2001-09-25 Thread sound
if you really want one i've got a couple copies but they're not sealed. make
an offer if you're interested



 I was willing to pay well over $500 for this, but still lost it...

 I should've used the strike at the last minute -method:


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1465768387r=0t=0sh
owTutorial=0ed=1001200421indexURL=0rd=1


 (if link's broken, copy  paste the the rest)



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Re: [313]The Wizard Record

2001-09-15 Thread sound
i would say it was the Code Assault record but it doesn't say 'produced by
the wizard' it say produced by code assault' so it's probably not it





 I recently found a few sealed copies of a record that gives the producer
as the
 wizard, the tracks are called 'code structure', the year is 1989, and it's
from
 detroit.
 is this jeff mills?
 can anybody point me to a mills discography?
 thanks
 james
 www.jbucknell.com



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Re: [313]The Wizard Record

2001-09-15 Thread sound

have you opened one up to hear it yet? is it techno?
that Code Assault 12 is from '89 and i think it was the only record Jeff
did that year (inbetween the Final Cut records). the tracks have subtitles
with Wizard in the title (i.e. Without Sin (the Wizards Institute Mix)
etc) but the records say produced by code assault, not the wizard.
that would be weird if there was some other techno record out in 89 produced
by jeff, or someone else calling himself the wizard...
what label is this 'code structure' record on?


 is it Code Assault? on Technika?  He did a remix on that Detroit
 industrial record.

 -d

 I recently found a few sealed copies of a record that gives the
 producer as the
 wizard, the tracks are called 'code structure', the year is 1989,
 and it's from
 detroit.
 is this jeff mills?
 can anybody point me to a mills discography?
 thanks
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Re: [313] NYC = Death, Israel, Thumbs Up ?!?

2001-09-14 Thread sound
the 313 list has turned to garbage in a matter of 3 days



 Type NYC into Microsoft Word.  Then change the font to wingdings or
 webdings.  Check out what
 comes up 
 
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Re: [313] Please READ THIS Tribute to the United States]

2001-09-14 Thread sound
here we go again
this, also, can be found on many 'hoax' websites. this is a real story but
was written 28 years ago...not this week.






 This is one email that is definately worth forwarding. I hope you all
 have a
 good afternoon.
 -dalton


TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
   
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
   
America: The Good Neighbor.
   
 Widespread but  only partial news coverage was given
 recently to a  remarkable editorial broadcast from
 Toronto by  Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
 commentator. What follows is the full text of  his
 trenchant remarks as printed in the  Congressional
 Record:
   
   
 This Canadian thinks it is time to  speak up for the
 Americans as the most generous and  possibly the least
 appreciated people on all the  earth.
   
 Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent,  Britain and
 Italy were lifted out of the debris of  war by the
 Americans who poured in billions of  dollars and
 forgave other billions in debts. None of  these
 countries is today paying even the interest on  its
 remaining debts to the United  States.
   
 When France was in danger of collapsing  in 1956,
 it was the Americans who propped it up, and  their
 reward was to be insulted  and swindled on the streets
 of Paris. I was there. I  saw it.
   
 When earthquakes hit distant cities, it  is the
 United States that hurries in to help. This  spring, 59
 American communities were flattened by  tornadoes.
 Nobody  helped.
   
 The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy  pumped
 billions of dollars into discouraged  countries. Now
 newspapers in  those countries are writing about the
 decadent,  warmongering Americans.
   
 I'd like to see just one  of those countries that
 is gloating over the erosion  of the United States
 dollar build its own airplane.  Does any other country
 in the world have a plane to  equal the Boeing Jumbo
 Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star,  or the Douglas DC10?
 If so, why don't they fly them?  Why do all the
 International lines except Russia fly  American Planes?
   
 Why does no other land on earth  even consider putting
 a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
 technocracy, and you get radios. You  talk about German
 technocracy, and you get  automobiles.
 You talk about American technocracy,  and you find
 men on the moon - not once, but several  times -
 and safely home  again.
   
 You talk about scandals, and the  Americans put theirs
 right in the store window for  everybody to look at .
 Even their draft-dodgers are  not pursued and hounded.
 They are here on our streets, and  most of them, unless
 they are breaking Canadian  laws, are getting American
 dollars from ma and pa at  home to spend here.
   
 When the railways of France,  Germany and India
 were breaking down through age, it  was the Americans
 who rebuilt them. When the  Pennsylvania Railroad and
 the New York Central went  broke, nobody loaned them an
 old caboose.  Both  are still broke.
   
 I can name you 5,000 times when  the Americans raced
 to the help of other people in  trouble. Can you name
 me even one time when someone  else raced to the
 Americans in trouble?  I  don't think there was outside
 help even during the  San Francisco earthquake.
   
 Our neighbors have  faced it alone, and I'm one
 Canadian who is damned  tired of hearing them get
 kicked around. They will  come out of this thing with
 their flag high. And  when they do, they are entitled
 to thumb their nose  at the lands that are gloating
 over their present  troubles. I hope Canada is not one of
 those.
   
Stand proud,  America!


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Re: [313] WTC - Nostrodamas prediction

2001-09-13 Thread sound
exactly. the whole reason that canadian student wrote that passage was to
show that vague random phrases could be construed as whatever people want to
have it mean in their heads. in fact, there's some nostrodamas writing that
also being passed around now saying that it predicted thisthis same
phrase was used to supposedly predict the lockerbee crash years ago; people
just fit these things into whatever context they have at the time.
funny how so-called 'predictions' never predict anything until after an
event has happened and people can read into it whatever they want.


 I agree with Hans.  Nost's predisctions are so damn vague that this could
be talking about anything.


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Re: [313] From Alt.prophecies.nostrodamus

2001-09-12 Thread sound
i don't know why i'm writing this because i'm so sick of all these non313
posts myself (though, i'm not caring musch about music at the moment, given
the situation).

i didn't read the posts but i notice his name and/or nickname is Xin. i
could assume he is chinese or taiwanese.
i read yesterday an interview with that a newspaper editor from south china
that had talked to a rep. for bin laden that something would happen to the
US soon; this interview was 3 weeks ago.
now, i read this in a japanese newspaper.
last friday, the US embassy issued a warning to americans in south korea and
japan after getting information about a possible threat to US military
facilities, but specifically made it seem like nightclubs that cater ot
americans in tokyo should be stayed away from . it did not indicate where
the threat came from or who was involved, but a senior administration
official had said it was Middle East-related.

but this is all besides the fact that i don't believe in 'prophets', but i
won't get into that discussion here since i'm sure someone disagrees and
it's not even worth debating

 nah,

 the corvette forum just redirects to google groups: groups.google.com .  I
 also subscribe to supernews, the messages are in their archive as well.

 here's one of his posts, claiming on setp 4th that he will explain on set
 11th:


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Xinoehpoelstart=10group=alt.prophecies.n
 ostradamusrnum=11selm=3B9EF647.9F5C9192%40flash.net

 and just the group:

 http://groups.google.com/groups?group=alt.prophecies.nostradamus

 Several people have already reported the guy to the fbi. It should be
 interesting to see if anything happens with it.

 jim, who does not think this guy is a prophet, but does think he may have
 known something.

 http://www.assasins.net
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 Subject: Re: [313] From Alt.prophecies.nostrodamus


  All this on the Corvette forum?
 
  At 8:40 AM -0400 9/12/01, deliverator wrote:
  Forwarded from another list.  This is a redirect to google groups,
which
  used to be dejanews, the largest usenet reporsitory.  Notice the title
of
  the message, and the date posted.  This would be difficult to spoof,
and
  with others reactions to the original post, it would appear that Xin
  actually posted the message on 8-31.
  
  Freaky.
  
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  http://www.assasins.net
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These links were sent to me earlier today.  It's very strange.
  
Will
  
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Re: [313] off topic but important!!!

2001-09-11 Thread sound
they just said a third plane crashed into the friggin pentagon...what is
goin' on

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:39 AM
Subject: [313] off topic but important!!!


 Terrorists have flown two large planes into the World Trade Center in
 NewYork!!! Just got a call from my mother in law and then saw it on the
 news. Condolences go out to those injured and families of those who had
 loved one's lost today. (Of which, I was almost one, my brother in law
 didn't go to work today because of bronchitis).


 The future passed you by.

 Labwerx Music
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Re: [313] WTC

2001-09-11 Thread sound
that plane never even left the ground from cleveland, it was evacuated
i understand you're trying to caution people but i should say that during
this hectic time they'll be tons of reports that are unconfirmed.




 we have one suspected plane on the ground possibly with a bomb in
cleveland.
 Another hijaked plane was diversted from cleveland, and at last update had
 just passed toledo.  It *could be on its way to detroit or
chicago.
 Also a van in east cleveland with blacked out windows surrounded by about
20
 cop cars.

 To those in NYC  DC, good luck.

 I hope everyone out there is safe.

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Re: [313] Danny Wang mix id?

2001-09-10 Thread sound
the percussion in the background is metroarea 3 up until around 45 min, but
then goes into another track that i don't know...

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Subject: Re: [313] Danny Wang mix id?


 Thanks for putting that one up minto

 diverse to say the least

 does someone know:

 http://www.lifesaver.net/audio/dw4.ram

 about 44mins 30 secs in - kinda like a cross between drexciya and metro
area
 sound.

 I know it - I just can't place it

 help please

 peace
 rc

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  those of you who love their disco records. man he
  covers it all 70's and 80's disco, everything from
  Patrick Adams to Gino soccio to Yello and early
  garage. peep this! Even some pics of Danny with the
  theremin :)
 
  http://www.lifesaver.net/artikkelit/daniel_wang/index.php
 
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Re: [313] space invaders video

2001-09-06 Thread sound
not much of a video..reminds me of some of the old videos you'd see
mtv's 'amp'. you know, the one's that never had proper videos made so they
just edited a bunch of kaleioscope and 3d terrain computer graphics
together, haha



 also worth a look, original 'Space Invaders are Smoking Grass'
 is now on the viewlexx site

 http://www.viewlexx.com

 roughly 6mins long.

 Anyone heard the Legowelt remix of 'Space Invaders.' yet

 jason


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Re: [313] http://www.viewlexx.com

2001-09-05 Thread sound
this track on the viewlexx mix playing at 94:50!!
i believe it's some brand new morgan geist business, i've had an acetate of
it for a long time but do not know any rock-solid info on it.
if someone could please help me out.
there was another one cut at the same time as that one that's even hotter!

ps-yes, the track right after this one is Time Warp



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[313] non related - attn Nancy Mitchell

2001-09-01 Thread sound
sorry to post this to the list but it is the only way i know to contact...

Nancy i tried your yahoo address but it did not work, please email me a
working email address
thanks!


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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

2001-08-24 Thread sound



  Well,
 
  Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary
  influences was Jamaican reggae  dubb.  Just had to bring it all back
full
  circle.
 

 well, before Jamaicans started making their own music (before there was
 reggae and dub as genres) they used to just cover RB from the states,
 meaning they played covers of tracks on labels like Stax, King, Chess,
 Atlantic, and especially Motownjust had to bring it all back again full
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Re: [313] dub

2001-08-24 Thread sound
i second that, king tubby is incredible. if you want to hear some wild
dub-sounding electronics check raymond scotts ibm/bendix stuff



 get your hands on as much king tubby as possible. you may also want to
check
 out his apprentice prince jammy's recordings... good luck
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  reaction.
  someone posted a good few months ago about a compilation cd (blood and
 fire
  i think??) that you could totally hear the influence.
  there is a lot of mediocre dub out there and i'm counting on you lot to
 give
  me some good recommendations.
  thanks
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Re: [313] unbelievable...

2001-08-17 Thread sound
they had these out back around the mid-80's. they never got big, and this
design looks exactly the same
there must be a reason why they are no good


 http://www.laserturntable.com

 -what can I say? :)


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Re: [313] Detroit Grand Pu Bahs

2001-08-14 Thread sound
yeah, it's decent enough.
got a lot of parliment/funkadelic influence, and electro touches with Paris'
crazy rantings.
they just had a release party last night in fact at trumpp's (detroit strip
joint)



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To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: [313] Detroit Grand Pu Bahs



 Has anyone heard the new Detroit Grand Pu Bahs LP Funk All Y'All on Jive
 Electro?

 Cheers

 Cyclone

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Re: [313] carl craig presents abstract funk theory

2001-08-12 Thread sound
i don't think there's too much to say about him,
he's german, had a couple top 40 hits (i think din daa daa actually went to
#1 in the US one week if i'm not mistaken)
you'd probably recognize the track when you heard it was played on the radio
when it came out (in '82 or 83, i think), and was played on many mix shows
in detroit in chicago (other places, too, i'm sure) in fact, i don't think i
own a wizard mix without it played at least once. it's still played often
today in electro sets and, more so in detroit probably, booty mixes



 Forgive my ignorance, but who's George Kranz?


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 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:06:28 +0100
 
 Not sure about the release date but here is the track listing (It might
 change as this is from the Promo CDR):
 
 George Kranz - Din Da Da
 A Number Of Names - Shari Vari
 Model 500 - Night Drive
 Channel One - Technicolor
 Rhythim is Rhythim - The Dance
 Reese  Santonio - Forcefield
 BFC - Galaxy
 Prince - Erotic City
 George Clinton - Atomic Dog
 B-52's - Mesopotamia
 X Ray - Let's Go
 Cybotron - Alleys Of Your Mind
 Yellow Magic Orchestra - Computer Game
 
 
 
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 Sent: 10 August 2001 16:58
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: [313] carl craig presents abstract funk theory
 
 
 carl craig presents abstract funk theory
 
 does somebody know when the release is going to be and
 the track listing?
 
 Sorry I forgot
 
 Sam
 
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Re: [313] transmat first, second, third pressing??

2001-08-12 Thread sound
that's a really good idea
i'd be down to support that. if anyone decides to do this let me know and
i'll help out (i'm too unmotivated to actually design a site myself, though.
haha)


 These experts on this board should make a site where all the Transmat
 graphics were presented. It's strange actually, that no one (?) hasn't
done
 that already, a dedicated Detroit classics web page...?




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Re: [313] transmat and metroplex first pressings

2001-08-11 Thread sound
a couple of the metroplex and a handful of the transmat ones go for $30-50
US



 how much do you think transmat and metroplex first
 vinyl pressings are worth in moderate condition.

 thanx

 Sam
 ps whats happened to metroplex these days?

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Re: [313] Reminder tomorrow night

2001-08-10 Thread sound
is there any cover charge? i only ask because most of the times i've been
there they did not charge anything to enter




 August 11, 2001
 ***
 Amsterdam Lounge
 Windsor, Canada
 261 Pelissier St
 591-977-7232

 An night of pure, funky techno and house - plain and simple. Join us for
 drinks and bumpin'!

 Featured DJS:
 DJ Revolver (Thinkbox.ca, Neksis)
 DJ Ben WU (GreyTech, Neksis)

 1030 pm - 230 am






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Re: [313] rotterdam's duplex - heroes of detroit?!!!!

2001-08-10 Thread sound
yeah, but they're not really easy to find
ep 3, 4 and 5 are Clone
but 1 and 2 are on Dub
i don't have them anymore (so they couldn't have been THAT good, ha), but if
i remember correctly they were both 10s and the tracks were mediocre



 Does anyone know what Duplex ep 1 and 2 are like? Or do they exist?





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Re: [313] rotterdam's duplex - heroes of detroit?!!!!

2001-08-10 Thread sound
yeah, now i remember; ep1 was a 10 and ep2 was a 12. i think they were
released around the same time and the matrix #'s are fairly similar
(something like, #3 and #3.1)


 They are in the same style as thier later records. EP1 and EP2 are
released
 on Djak Up Bitch (Now known as Dub Records). I think the first one was a
12
 and the 2nd one a 10 or the other way arround.

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  From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: Re: [313] rotterdam's duplex - heroes of detroit?
  Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 08:58:59 -0400
  
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  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:59 AM
  Subject: RE: [313] rotterdam's duplex - heroes of detroit?
  
  
For more dutch electronica bliss i would recommend all
  the tracks from
Stefan Robbers as Florence and Terrace. Especially the
  ones he recorded
  for
GPR ('My mirror image' and Midioligy').
   
And if you still can find a copy buy everything on
  Shiver. Erik van den
Broek is one of Holland most talented producers. Subsonic
  Soundscape on
Shiver is a must have!
  
  I second that. I've been a long-time fan of the Shiver/Van Den Broek
  material, but haven't seen anything newer in a while.
  Subsonic Soundscape
  is
  definitely a classic. While you're at it, see if you can
  track down any of
  KJ's music. He's really diverse under his Moderator guise,
  and some of it
  has a similar feel to this, some is more straight-Detroit
  from the past,
  and
  some hints at Tejada. Really excellent stuff!
  
  Tristan
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Re: [313] Save the vinyl info

2001-08-09 Thread sound
the whole kdj catalog is being repressed right now, all limited (isn't
everything, though?)


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From: M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Save the vinyl info


 Shades of Jae, and a large number of other Moodymann titles have been
 repressed  at least twice (last summer for sure, and once before that in
 recent memory).

 Let's face facts:
 1. Record pressing plants want to make money
 ergo
 they press the records people pay them to press.
 2. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

 Cheers
 todd
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 From: Lee Herrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:28 PM
 Subject: RE: [313] Save the vinyl info


  you know I have always wondered what keeps some artists from having
  their classic work repressed.  I would love to be able to stop by Bent
  Crayon and pick up early Metamorphic, or KDJ EP's.  For whatever reason
  after the first 800-3000 copies are distributed and sold that's it.  The
  Peacefrog label even has a compilation series called deletions [a
  collection of long out-of-print vinyl titles].
I caught an earful of shades of jae the other week.  Intrigued, I
  attempted to locate a merchant or distributor that carried a copy.  No
 luck.
  Perhaps the artists or labels do not feel there is enough demand to
 justify
  the cost of a second issue.  Makes you wish you could go back in time.
 
  save the vinyl
 
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  From: Michael Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:08 PM
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: [313] Save the vinyl info
 
  From: jim proffit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: [313] Save the vinyl info
  Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 07:10:27
  
  fabrice Lig:
  
  I talked several times to some people from Vinyl pressing factories
and
  eachone told me that they are really really busy and always too much
  records to press.
  
  Michael Kim:
  
  how about cutting down the number of bad releases instead?  ;)
 
  well i was just kidding (notice the wink sign), but i'll continue this
  discussion for the hell of it...  read on
 
  I think cutting down the number of releases would eventually be
  catastrophic
  for this music scene.
  
  Factories would have to close down their businesses when there wouldn't
 be
  enough work (records to make) and thus cause the pressing prices go
 higher
  and higher, making it useless to release this music on vinyl when at
the
  end
  a record could cost you twice as much as it does now.
  
  Only the strongest pressing plants would survive, and eventually
there'd
 be
  only 2 or 3 pressing plants IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
  Not much choice there.
  
  I think this effect is already showing the way average record price has
  been
  steadily rising in the last 15 years, and the amount of new dance
 releases
  per month should now be higher that ever?
 
  i think that's mostly due to inflation.  i mean, nobody claims the
reason
  for higher burger prices is due to mad cow disease, right?  higher cost
of
  operation, higher prices to the consumer.  price of a Big Mac combo meal
 15
  years ago sure wasn't over $4.
 
  i also don't think it would be that big a deal.  i'm no economics
expert,
 so
  maybe my opinion isn't as valid as yours, but there are so many horrible
  records coming out and so few pressings of good ones in comparison.  why
 not
  just make MORE copies of good records?  i don't think you'll have
problems
  selling reissues of classics, look how fast Cybotron - Clear went.
 
  okay, maybe it might take a little bit of creativity out of the equation
 if
  everybody has the same records, but i've seen horrible records sit in
  shelves for years.  a pressing plant may be pressing it, but if nobody
 buys
  it, somebody's got to pay for that.
 
  also, look at how many Swedish imitation records come out.  they sound
the
  same, no new ideas, more than half of the Swedish sounding records are
  garbage.  i mean, do these records really need to be released
constantly?
  if you miss one, you can find twenty others the next week that sound
just
  like it.  on a big system, it's REALLY hard to differentiate between two
  tracks a lot of the time because they're so similar.
 
  (note: i'm not trying to say all Swedish techno sounds bad, a lot of it
is
  quite good, but you all know the imitations i'm talking about)
 
  i really wish record pressing plants would concentrate on making more
 copies
  of good records, and reissuing good older records and classics that they
  KNOW will sell, rather than pressing the latest record that nobody will
  remember or care about two weeks after its release.  because people who
 are
  relatively new to record buying, like me, can find the good stuff and
buy
  the classics up on sight.
 
  It's a sort of Amazon jungle this dance music business; you have

Re: [313] rotterdam's duplex - heroes of detroit?!!!!

2001-08-09 Thread sound
well, my favorite track on that Duplex EP5 would be 'motion blur'. if you
like the sound of that track, too
i'd recommend 'influence' by Electronome (HM-1202). last i knew it was still
in print but if you can't find it around i'm sure klen at clone could
probably hook you up. these tracks are only slightly related, the duplex one
is a bit atmospheric sounding and has a little more electro-styled beat than
the electronome which is more of an italo-electro beat. actually the more i
think about it the more different they are from one another...oh well, i
still recommend it, haha

. is there anyone else
 out there making music (electro/techno - dance-floor orientated) at the
 moment similar in style to duplex (besides the 'better known' artists like
 john tejada, titonton duvante, fabrice lig, funk d'void - and ireland's
 great, great record label d1).



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Re: [313] R: [313] rotterdam's duplex - heroes of detroit?!!!!

2001-08-09 Thread sound
speaking of orgue electronic vs.legowelt if you haven't heard it you should
definately pick up the Derrick In Nord Korea EP on Bunker. it is
unbelievable, it's got 5 tracks on it and 4 of them are amazing; ranging
from italian disco to dopplereffekt-like electro. they also have that great
remix of Metal Disco on that picture disc which is great but sold out.
though i believe it was recently licenced to be out on a Ghostly
International (ann arbor, mi) compilation soon.



 all the names have been named but may i reccomend the orgue electronic vs.
 legowelt live on web.i-o-inc.com - hot sh**t!!! the real audio seems to be
 down but the mp3 stream is up




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Re: [313] Aug 18? Detroit?

2001-08-09 Thread sound
Squarepusher and Plaid at St Andrews


 Is anything happening in Detroit Aug 18? Selway, Stewart Walker at Motor I
 know about and may attend. Looking to maybe meet up with some 313ers
 (finally some free time).
 steve




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Re: [313] FW: An Open Letter to Big Tigger-DHHC (please send to all media) (fwd)

2001-08-09 Thread sound
jeff stopped playing because the stations started requiring pre-approved
playlists and it was too much hassle

 It has exacerbated the problem definitely, but urban radio in Detroit at
 least has been problematic for at least the last 15 years.  Both the
 Wizard and Mojo lost their jobs because of the phenomenon the DHHC is
 talking about and this occurred way before the TeleCom act.


 peace
 lks


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[313] mojo book

2001-08-09 Thread sound
has anyone here read that book that the electrifyin mojo was working on
about the history of black classical composers? if so, was it good? and what
was the name of it (if it was even published) cause i knew some info on it
but i've forgotten it all now


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Re: [313] FW: An Open Letter to Big Tigger-DHHC (please send to all media) (fwd)

2001-08-09 Thread sound
you know, just stations getting into more corporate mode and less of a
freeform mode
it wasn't specifically just for jeffs shows, everyone had to do it, but
could you imagine jeff having to write out a playlist for every wizard set?
and then having to get it approved? just too much trouble so he stopped

 jeff stopped playing because the stations started requiring pre-approved
 playlists and it was too much hassle

 Why did they require pre-approved playlists?

  It has exacerbated the problem definitely, but urban radio in Detroit
at
  least has been problematic for at least the last 15 years.  Both the
  Wizard and Mojo lost their jobs because of the phenomenon the DHHC is
  talking about and this occurred way before the TeleCom act.
 
 
  peace
  lks
 
 
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Re: [313] New Hip Hop + New Soul?

2001-08-07 Thread sound
happens to be detroit related too, haha!
at 2:00
it's Jay Dee. an instrumental on the Phat Kat records #HSR001
good stuff

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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 8:48 AM
Subject: [313] New Hip Hop + New Soul?


 Alright, I used the s word :)

 I listened to the new set on Betalounge from 7/28 yesterday, with Don
 Shtone,
 Mannequin Lunge and Jan Jelinek. There's some straight hip hop with really
 nice
 lush beats in there. I'm way removed from the hip hop world these days.
I'm
 curious
 about what some of it might be. If I'm tracking it down right, it's going
on
 around the 2-hour mark and moves about from there for at least an hour. Is
 this a new, new school?

 This stuff segues from there into what I can only describe as slow
 electronic soul. It has sort of a heavilly electronic hip-hop flavor with
 beautiful vocals. All of this stuff interests me a lot and I have no idea
 where it comes from or what to call it. It's distinct from what I'm
hearing
 out of the West London New School sound, although both evoke
 the same return to an older variety of soul or funk for me. More of a
direct
 link up with that sound than what we'd normally think of from techno, but
 very techno in spirit. Sorry for being so vague and non-descript. These
are
 the best words I can come up with to describe these sounds.

 I'm hearing a lot of these sounds on the betalounge these days. Beyond all
 of this, is anyone else noticing a really prominent focus on musicality
 versus minimalism in 2001? I feel like people are putting a lot more
effort
 into writing music these days. It's really prominent in deep house, and
 seems to be infecting everything else.

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Re: [313] Lifefest--Hotels?

2001-08-07 Thread sound
i can't suggest where to go, but i'd say stay away from the Ren Cen, the
hotel doors there can sometimes be opened with credit cards/atm cards/etc.
lots of break-ins during DEMF...

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Subject: [313] Lifefest--Hotels?


 Can anyone suggest a good hotel in the immediate Lifefest vicinity?

 Any recommendations would be helpful to myself, and others I'm sure.
 Thanks!

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[313] KIKOMAN demf track id

2001-05-31 Thread sound
Hey,

What was the LAST track kikoman played at the demf, immediately before
I:cube went on? I gotta know.

sounded like a pornoactress having sex with the philly international
orchestra.

great tune. 

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laurent Garnier Mix Show Track ID

2001-04-04 Thread sound
Yo,

Please somebody ID the track starting at 1:01:30 on the following mix show:

Laurent Garnier Essential Mix 30-Jan-2000.mp3

I got it off Napster.  It is a Radio 1 essential mix selection from
London.

I can send a RealAudio sample if you wish.

dr. attaman