RE: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
Theres more about it here including pics http://www.todayandtomorrow.net/2010/06/10/a-vinyl-and-cd-release-on-one-disc/ -Original Message- From: AntonBanks.com [mailto:web...@snet.net] Sent: 11 June 2010 12:09 To: fran...@thatamazingthing.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) I was just about to ask the same thing. -Original Message- From: fran...@thatamazingthing.com [mailto:fran...@thatamazingthing.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 6:28 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) I'm a little puzzled about some of the technical details also: What size is the hole in the middle? Presumably it has to be large enough to accommodate the 15mm-ish spindle CD players use? Do you get some special adaptor for the smaller spindle on a vinyl turntable? I make a CD to be only just larger than the label area on a conventional modern record. So either it only has a few seconds playing time or (more likely) it has a playable groove extending further toward the centre of the disc? But not all tone arms will move this far, some only expect to get as far as the run out groove of conventional vinyl and their range doesn't extend beyond that. Or am I being really stupid not visualising this thing correctly? -Original Message- From: mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com [mailto:mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com] Sent: 09 June 2010 1:48 To: ja...@iridite.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) I'd like to think that the extra weight on the spinner in the CD player would cause the electric motor to burn up slowly...especially the older ones. Those CD players were designed to handle the weight of a CD, not a CD/record. Then again the CD/DVD combos seem to work ok in their players even though they are thicker. --Original Message-- From: ja...@iridite.com Sender: irid...@gmail.com To: 313 list Subject: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) Sent: Jun 6, 2010 6:12 AM Got another Mills album in - The Occurance and I've never seen anything like it. It's a CD. But you turn it over and it's a mini-vinyl disk. With music on it. That you play on a normal record player. So that's two formats for the price of one - anyone ever seen anything like this before? Wow - he's The Man From Tomorrow alright! I've been a bit too scared to put the CD in my computer to listen to the album (it looks a wee bit thicker than a normal CD but that could be an illusion) so I can't give any reports on it yet! cheers Jason Sent via BlackBerry by ATT No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2926 - Release Date: 06/08/10 14:35:00
Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
You're not wrong at all Francis - you have to place it on the turntable spindle as close to centered as you can and yes, there's only a small usable area for the music - think it might be about 5 mins worth - the grooves seem very tight but I was suprised by how good it all sounded. You might have difficulty with a semi-automatic turntable that switches off at the end of a side. Not so good for scratching and quick cuts then! cheers Jason On 9 June 2010 11:27, fran...@thatamazingthing.com wrote: I'm a little puzzled about some of the technical details also: What size is the hole in the middle? Presumably it has to be large enough to accommodate the 15mm-ish spindle CD players use? Do you get some special adaptor for the smaller spindle on a vinyl turntable? I make a CD to be only just larger than the label area on a conventional modern record. So either it only has a few seconds playing time or (more likely) it has a playable groove extending further toward the centre of the disc? But not all tone arms will move this far, some only expect to get as far as the run out groove of conventional vinyl and their range doesn't extend beyond that. Or am I being really stupid not visualising this thing correctly? -Original Message- From: mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com [mailto:mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com] Sent: 09 June 2010 1:48 To: ja...@iridite.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) I'd like to think that the extra weight on the spinner in the CD player would cause the electric motor to burn up slowly...especially the older ones. Those CD players were designed to handle the weight of a CD, not a CD/record. Then again the CD/DVD combos seem to work ok in their players even though they are thicker. --Original Message-- From: ja...@iridite.com Sender: irid...@gmail.com To: 313 list Subject: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) Sent: Jun 6, 2010 6:12 AM Got another Mills album in - The Occurance and I've never seen anything like it. It's a CD. But you turn it over and it's a mini-vinyl disk. With music on it. That you play on a normal record player. So that's two formats for the price of one - anyone ever seen anything like this before? Wow - he's The Man From Tomorrow alright! I've been a bit too scared to put the CD in my computer to listen to the album (it looks a wee bit thicker than a normal CD but that could be an illusion) so I can't give any reports on it yet! cheers Jason Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
maybe they should make a mini adaptor for this format 45s stylee? On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 1:03 PM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: You're not wrong at all Francis - you have to place it on the turntable spindle as close to centered as you can and yes, there's only a small usable area for the music - think it might be about 5 mins worth - the grooves seem very tight but I was suprised by how good it all sounded. You might have difficulty with a semi-automatic turntable that switches off at the end of a side. Not so good for scratching and quick cuts then! cheers Jason On 9 June 2010 11:27, fran...@thatamazingthing.com wrote: I'm a little puzzled about some of the technical details also: What size is the hole in the middle? Presumably it has to be large enough to accommodate the 15mm-ish spindle CD players use? Do you get some special adaptor for the smaller spindle on a vinyl turntable? I make a CD to be only just larger than the label area on a conventional modern record. So either it only has a few seconds playing time or (more likely) it has a playable groove extending further toward the centre of the disc? But not all tone arms will move this far, some only expect to get as far as the run out groove of conventional vinyl and their range doesn't extend beyond that. Or am I being really stupid not visualising this thing correctly? -Original Message- From: mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com [mailto:mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com] Sent: 09 June 2010 1:48 To: ja...@iridite.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) I'd like to think that the extra weight on the spinner in the CD player would cause the electric motor to burn up slowly...especially the older ones. Those CD players were designed to handle the weight of a CD, not a CD/record. Then again the CD/DVD combos seem to work ok in their players even though they are thicker. --Original Message-- From: ja...@iridite.com Sender: irid...@gmail.com To: 313 list Subject: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) Sent: Jun 6, 2010 6:12 AM Got another Mills album in - The Occurance and I've never seen anything like it. It's a CD. But you turn it over and it's a mini-vinyl disk. With music on it. That you play on a normal record player. So that's two formats for the price of one - anyone ever seen anything like this before? Wow - he's The Man From Tomorrow alright! I've been a bit too scared to put the CD in my computer to listen to the album (it looks a wee bit thicker than a normal CD but that could be an illusion) so I can't give any reports on it yet! cheers Jason Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
One of these should fit :) http://www.beer-wine.com/products/rubber-stoppers On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 16:28, ohanakin ... ohana...@gmail.com wrote: maybe they should make a mini adaptor for this format 45s stylee? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg
RE: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
I'm a little puzzled about some of the technical details also: What size is the hole in the middle? Presumably it has to be large enough to accommodate the 15mm-ish spindle CD players use? Do you get some special adaptor for the smaller spindle on a vinyl turntable? I make a CD to be only just larger than the label area on a conventional modern record. So either it only has a few seconds playing time or (more likely) it has a playable groove extending further toward the centre of the disc? But not all tone arms will move this far, some only expect to get as far as the run out groove of conventional vinyl and their range doesn't extend beyond that. Or am I being really stupid not visualising this thing correctly? -Original Message- From: mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com [mailto:mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com] Sent: 09 June 2010 1:48 To: ja...@iridite.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) I'd like to think that the extra weight on the spinner in the CD player would cause the electric motor to burn up slowly...especially the older ones. Those CD players were designed to handle the weight of a CD, not a CD/record. Then again the CD/DVD combos seem to work ok in their players even though they are thicker. --Original Message-- From: ja...@iridite.com Sender: irid...@gmail.com To: 313 list Subject: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) Sent: Jun 6, 2010 6:12 AM Got another Mills album in - The Occurance and I've never seen anything like it. It's a CD. But you turn it over and it's a mini-vinyl disk. With music on it. That you play on a normal record player. So that's two formats for the price of one - anyone ever seen anything like this before? Wow - he's The Man From Tomorrow alright! I've been a bit too scared to put the CD in my computer to listen to the album (it looks a wee bit thicker than a normal CD but that could be an illusion) so I can't give any reports on it yet! cheers Jason Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
I'd like to think that the extra weight on the spinner in the CD player would cause the electric motor to burn up slowly...especially the older ones. Those CD players were designed to handle the weight of a CD, not a CD/record. Then again the CD/DVD combos seem to work ok in their players even though they are thicker. --Original Message-- From: ja...@iridite.com Sender: irid...@gmail.com To: 313 list Subject: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) Sent: Jun 6, 2010 6:12 AM Got another Mills album in - The Occurance and I've never seen anything like it. It's a CD. But you turn it over and it's a mini-vinyl disk. With music on it. That you play on a normal record player. So that's two formats for the price of one - anyone ever seen anything like this before? Wow - he's The Man From Tomorrow alright! I've been a bit too scared to put the CD in my computer to listen to the album (it looks a wee bit thicker than a normal CD but that could be an illusion) so I can't give any reports on it yet! cheers Jason Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
I've seen these before, aren't they like £30 a pop tho? m On 6 Jun 2010, at 14:12, ja...@iridite.com wrote: It's a CD. But you turn it over and it's a mini-vinyl disk. With music on it. That you play on a normal record player. So that's two formats for the price of one - anyone ever seen anything like this before? Jason
Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
I had seen the CD-R's you get that look like vinyl (Black underside and a raised groove with a small label on the other side like a mini 45) but never one that actually had music on. £30 - that's the price you pay for the Future I'm afraid :) Jason On 7 June 2010 09:22, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: I've seen these before, aren't they like £30 a pop tho? m On 6 Jun 2010, at 14:12, ja...@iridite.com wrote: It's a CD. But you turn it over and it's a mini-vinyl disk. With music on it. That you play on a normal record player. So that's two formats for the price of one - anyone ever seen anything like this before? Jason
Re: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
On 7 Jun 2010, at 09:33, ja...@iridite.com wrote: I had seen the CD-R's you get that look like vinyl (Black underside and a raised groove with a small label on the other side like a mini 45) but never one that actually had music on. The technology has been around a while, we did some sound design for a console game and the company wanted to do the same thing but bottled it because the price was to high for a give away. Still, glad to see it's been used, although they do kinda make you nervous, will it get stuck? Will it wreck the needle? :) £30 - that's the price you pay for the Future I'm afraid :) I'll wait for the jet-pack :) m
RE: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
The CD does play I popped it in the deck to see if it Actually played, but I have not had time to really Check it out yet. tim The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. From: irid...@gmail.com [mailto:irid...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of ja...@iridite.com Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 9:13 AM To: 313 list Subject: (313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??) Got another Mills album in - The Occurance and I've never seen anything like it. It's a CD. But you turn it over and it's a mini-vinyl disk. With music on it. That you play on a normal record player. So that's two formats for the price of one - anyone ever seen anything like this before? Wow - he's The Man From Tomorrow alright! I've been a bit too scared to put the CD in my computer to listen to the album (it looks a wee bit thicker than a normal CD but that could be an illusion) so I can't give any reports on it yet! cheers Jason
(313) ANOTHER Mills album (and the future of Music Formats??)
Got another Mills album in - The Occurance and I've never seen anything like it. It's a CD. But you turn it over and it's a mini-vinyl disk. With music on it. That you play on a normal record player. So that's two formats for the price of one - anyone ever seen anything like this before? Wow - he's The Man From Tomorrow alright! I've been a bit too scared to put the CD in my computer to listen to the album (it looks a wee bit thicker than a normal CD but that could be an illusion) so I can't give any reports on it yet! cheers Jason