Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT
Couldn't agree with you less. Nothing is worthwhile without struggle. Prolly OT sorry. C Hi David, I've seen this statement loads of late... strife creates better art. It must be because the Tories are back in but it's such an utter nonsense statement that even if you think about it for 1 minute it comes crumbling down.
Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT
If you think struggle is great, it is likely that you haven't missed any meals lately. There is nothing enabling about poverty. M On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:48 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote: Couldn't agree with you less. Nothing is worthwhile without struggle. Prolly OT sorry. C
Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT
well put mike taylor On 31 January 2013 16:57, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com wrote: If you think struggle is great, it is likely that you haven't missed any meals lately. There is nothing enabling about poverty. M On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:48 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote: Couldn't agree with you less. Nothing is worthwhile without struggle. Prolly OT sorry. C -- Lerato Khathi http://uzurirecordings.com http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com http://soundcloud.com/uzuri Skype : Lakuti
Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT
In related news (and in the interest of straying further OT), I feel that being indignant upon hearing that drug use and homelessness go hand in hand is like putting a flashing sign above your head saying NEVER EXPERIENCED OR WORKED DIRECTLY WITH HOMELESSNESS. I feel like the attitude is usually in reaction to the unfortunate and incorrect American cultural connotation that the drugs somehow make it less tragic or makes it the victim's fault. Just my perception, though. ~T On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com wrote: If you think struggle is great, it is likely that you haven't missed any meals lately. There is nothing enabling about poverty. M On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:48 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote: Couldn't agree with you less. Nothing is worthwhile without struggle. Prolly OT sorry. C
Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT
I don't want to get into the politics. But in my opinion, strife creates better art. On a positive note: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/18/light-rail-detroit-mass-transit_n_2503995.html The core of the city is actually doing pretty well from an aesthetic stand-point. On 01/28/2013 06:06 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE90R13O20130128?irpc=935 Ken Odeluga | Assistant News Editor - Markets Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place, 5th Floor, Limeburner Lane, London EC4M 7QN p: +44 (0)207 801 0145 | m: +44 (0)7887793644 ken.odel...@dowjones.com
Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT
On 29 Jan 2013, at 16:39, David Smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to get into the politics. But in my opinion, strife creates better art. And if you think about that statement you know it's utter BS.
Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT
Which mine or the GM executives? Mine is pure opinion, I prefer dark art. I actually live in Detroit, this is nothing new. Bankruptcy? pff whatever. The state's take-over tactic isn't ever going to happen unless Detroit does declare bankruptcy, why? because if the State were to actually take Detroit over it would incur the debt as well. On 01/29/2013 11:43 AM, Martin Dust wrote: On 29 Jan 2013, at 16:39, David Smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to get into the politics. But in my opinion, strife creates better art. And if you think about that statement you know it's utter BS.
Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT
Hi David, I've seen this statement loads of late... strife creates better art. It must be because the Tories are back in but it's such an utter nonsense statement that even if you think about it for 1 minute it comes crumbling down.
Re: (313) Analysis: Stuck in reverse, Detroit edges closer to bankruptcy OT
I think part of the point Martin is making is that 'strife' -- and bankruptcy, and bad policing, and corrupt city government -- just makes everyone miserable. What affect it has or doesn't have on artists is beside the point. Artists are a very small percentage of the population, and if they need things to be falling down around them to create, there's something wrong with them. At any rate, for every artist there's a thousand people who arent artists, and they deserve better. There might be some correlation between periods of social upheaval and great art, but it isn't worth it as a tool for creativity. To suggest that it's OK because hey, Detroit Techno! could only occur to someone from a position of privilege, who is a bystander to the strife, who can remove themselves from it if they choose. Hell, while there are definitely Detroit musicians born and raised in the city of Detroit, the originators started their musical adventures in Belleville, which is very suburban and quiet.
