(313) Detroit Cops' Behavior towards afterparty's: a conspiricy theory

2003-05-29 Thread Sheralyn
So many posts about party's being busted by the cops.  

To you out of towners I'm offering a Detroiters apology for our wonderful 
police department.  What can I say they are cops, some of them are not known 
for using all their mental faculties when they should :).  Just a little joke 
to anyone in law enforcement.

As a native Detroiter the police behavior makes no sense to me.  How often does 
Detroit have loads of international visitors as well as folks from other 
states.  Maybe during the auto show and then most of the international vistors 
are media or car executives from non USA car companies.  Not nearly as many 
people as for the DEMF/Movement.

SO here we have this great festival that has already been reported to be behind 
the 8 ball money wise, the organizers have put up their own money pulled a 
rabbit out of their hat and made it happen.  And what do the Detroit police 
think, oh yeah lets go harrass folks so this can never happen again.

GO figure.

As far as conspiracy theories for the cops actions go I offer this.  Kwame 
Kilpatrick, our hip-hop party mayor has been in big time hot water the last few 
weeks.  Each day the local paper has a new article about alleged bad behavior 
on the part of the mayor or his security detail.  Much of it may be untrue, but 
my grandmother always said where there's smoke there'e gotta be at least a 
small fire.  In any case, the mayor is being closely scrutinized by the media 
and all his actions are being watched. Kwame is usually the first one dancing 
and sweating it up at local party's and clubs according to the grape vine, with 
his problems of late I'm sure he had to lay low for Movement.  
Maybe he is one of those people that don't think anyone else should have fun if 
he can't so he sent the cops out to bust up everyone else's fun. 

Ciao




Re: (313) Detroit Cops' Behavior towards afterparty's: a conspiricy theory

2003-05-29 Thread marc christensen
Indeed, Detroit cops' behaviour towards Detroiters (or out-of-town 
guests) isn't exactly exemplary.


IIRC, in 2001, there were nearly a dozen unarmed civilians shot dead 
by Detroit cops in situations where the use of lethal force was 
certainly questionable.  (Can you count holding a rake as being 
armed?)


Don't judge Detroit by the opinions or behaviours of its police 
officers, judges, elected officials, bankers, insurance agents, pawn 
shop owners, etc. etc.  In short, parts of the establishment that are 
meant to be enforcers of one sort or another aren't usually known for 
their forward-thinking ideals or behaviour.   Much of the real spirit 
of Detroit exists in a tense relationship with these enforcers, who 
for instance don't like people hanging out on their front porches 
with friends late on summer evenings.  To cops and judges, we're all 
potential perpetrators.  In a similar vein, and more on topic, the 
independently-organized events that made house and techno viable in 
Detroit weren't exactly the kinds of events that cops endorsed 
either, though it was back in the day before the media scare about 
raves, ecstasy, etc.


As for the future of the DEMF-now-Movement festival, if the most 
regressive elements of the police force had their way, *both* the 
Downtown Hoedown and the African American World Fest would have been 
shut down in their second years.  Thankfully, the police aren't in 
charge of scheduling Hart Plaza.


My .02, of course.
-marc




At 9:34 PM -0400 5/28/03, Sheralyn wrote:
So many posts about party's being busted by the cops. 

To you out of towners I'm offering a Detroiters apology for our 
wonderful police department.  What can I say they are cops, some 
of them are not known for using all their mental faculties when they 
should :).  Just a little joke to anyone in law enforcement.


As a native Detroiter the police behavior makes no sense to me.  How 
often does Detroit have loads of international visitors as well as 
folks from other states.  Maybe during the auto show and then most 
of the international vistors are media or car executives from non 
USA car companies.  Not nearly as many people as for the 
DEMF/Movement.


SO here we have this great festival that has already been reported 
to be behind the 8 ball money wise, the organizers have put up their 
own money pulled a rabbit out of their hat and made it happen.  And 
what do the Detroit police think, oh yeah lets go harrass folks so 
this can never happen again.


GO figure.

As far as conspiracy theories for the cops actions go I offer this. 
Kwame Kilpatrick, our hip-hop party mayor has been in big time hot 
water the last few weeks.  Each day the local paper has a new 
article about alleged bad behavior on the part of the mayor or his 
security detail.  Much of it may be untrue, but my grandmother 
always said where there's smoke there'e gotta be at least a small 
fire.  In any case, the mayor is being closely scrutinized by the 
media and all his actions are being watched. Kwame is usually the 
first one dancing and sweating it up at local party's and clubs 
according to the grape vine, with his problems of late I'm sure he 
had to lay low for Movement. 
Maybe he is one of those people that don't think anyone else should 
have fun if he can't so he sent the cops out to bust up everyone 
else's fun.


Ciao