Re: [313] Juan Atkins - then having a break

2002-02-03 Thread neontsetse
 Is that the reason you mis-spelt his first name throughout your post? The
 thing is, many unprincipled journalists have made a dark artform out of
 taking the comments of those whom they interview  provocatively twisting
 their words to suit an agenda. Usually, that agenda is to stir s**t up
 with little regard for the consequences, especially whether it could
 reflect negatively on the person kind enough to speak to them in the first
 place.

this happens and is horrible - 

might be some details got mixed - 

but - me myself, I´m also doing interviews 4 quite some time 

and I do take care that the things said are not getting cutted and changed 

or highlighted in a way that the meaning get´s changed 

and let me tell you - 

there are so many many statements like that said by black artists and you
know it 

they become more relevant with every step when people deny 

or don´t react to them  - I posted some others b4 - 

You want to hear some statements from Theo Parrish about it ? 

You did read John´s interviews with Suburban Knight, Robert Hood too ? 

http://www.undergroundcommittee.com 

WHY do you feel the need to suggest especially THIS information is wrong ? 

and WHY the hell you think it should be harming his career ? 

Because you do agree with them people, 

who don´t want to hear what´s a big part of what´s happening ?

Should Juan Atkins take care about them holding the blanket for the real
racists by 

being ignorant easy and on the other hand being whiny, weak and fearing
people ? 

You want him to shut up that there are problems ?  

You want him to be the black friendly business entertainer who LOVES
especially 

white people on the planet, because you identify yourself with being white 
? 

You want him to shut up ?  

Why don´t you try to understand why he might be right ?

This list is full of people in quite good easy jobs, even some with
powerful 

positions - so We are the people, who are a part of the problem - 

If WE would take care WE would be less a part of it...  

many on the list are making music too - 

now the question is: why are we/they on a 313-list ? 

What´s the reason behind, if so many feel the need to deny this background 

of the music ? 

Is it because it´s the vibe, that isn´t easy and doesn´t feed the ego or the


hunger 4 entertainment only ? 

Is it because people want a good world and can´t deal with them saying it´s
not ?

Is it because the own role and identity is getting questioned this way ? 

Is it because of being scared there ain´t no way to participate or to be a
part of this 
? 

is it, is it, is it ? 

or now is it --- 

because some are ready to TAKE OVER - the control -?

that´s xactly what Juan said - and it just seems to be like this - 

Yes, there was Mojo, New wave, independent and white influences etc.. - 

Yes, not every thing is a question of black and white, it is not only about
this -

Yes, it´s about music and music for the people -  

but then you need to show up you are people 

people - come out and keep talking about this 

till the respect RISES back to them why there´s such a thing as the 313-list
-- 

pay them back with showing up that you know it you are there to understand
and 

connect - 

I will shut up 4 some time -

WE COULD BE SO MUCH MORE  


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Re: [313] Juan Atkins - then having a break

2002-02-03 Thread Wes
Nobody is denying the fact that Black artists like Juan or Stacey
have had a raw deal when it comes to gaining anything like widespread
commercial acceptance with their particular brand of techno--you're
preaching to the converted there, I'm afraid. Going unrecognized in one's
homeland is part of the price all artists whose work proves ahead of its
time must pay, like it or not. At least we support their cause by buying
their material  turning people on to it whenever possible. In terms of true
activism  the creation of what Pullen calls thinking machines, impassioned
music will always speak louder than impassioned words.

Venting one's spleen in a self-righteous attempt to blame the woes of some
Black techno artists _solely_ on race can appear a little reductive  has
caused a few firestorms on the list (mea culpa!) You may choose to disagree,
but things are usually vastly more complex than they appear on the surface, 
over-simplified arguments (beguiling as they may be), are often alienating
to others and the kiss of death to (constructive) dialogue.

Please respond off-list if you feel you must.

Keep the faith, spread the sounds,

Wes




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