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2002-03-22 Thread yussel
I noticed that all of the bands you listed as timeless are detroit. i
really dig all of them, but there are also some great electro-clash bands
like Crossover who are equally as musical and relevant (not fashionable)

this is just a theory, but perhaps these NYC groups are unfairly called
'trendy' because the rally around them, while in detroit, stuff is
'great' because ppl ignore them.



On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Kent williams wrote:

 On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Actually, and I know you were joking around but, I thought what Tom said is
  true and I appreciated him saying it. Electro-pop isn't really electro -
  it's just electronic pop and has more to do with Hi-NRG as far as I'm
  concerned than any true electro funk/breaks sound. That is what gets my
  goat though. People are confusing it with electro. Some of the electro-pop
  I love but lots of it is clearly sound of the month for some artists.
 

 The whole Electro-clash thing is very fashionable now in New York; and
 a lot of those acts are a lot of fun and have unique musical twists.
 But when you talk about music, you need to separate fashion from artistic
 value;  Electro-clash will be the flavor of choice among the tragically
 hip for a while; Johnny Depp will hire Miss Kitten to DJ at his $5000/month
 Paris flat, yadda yada.

 But fashion is fickle, and fashion doesn't always reward merit.  Stuff
 like Adult, Ectomorph, Drexciya, Japanese Telecom, etc will always be great
 music, but it won't always be fashionable.

 Right now, where I live, techno and house music are no longer that popular.
 3 years ago we could get 300 nutters out to hear local DJs, and now I can
 bring in internationally known artists and DJs and be lucky to get 150 people
 through the door.  Which means I'm no longer as enthusiastic about promoting
 as I once was, but it doesn't change how I feel about the music.  It just
 means we'll go back to the basement with a couple of turntables and do our
 thing for the 50 heads who really appreciate the music.

 The big thing right now is Hip Hop shows -- local guys can draw 200 people,
 and national and international acts can pack places.  There's also a dress
 to impress bar that has a Chicago commercial house DJ that's packing them in.
 Whatever.  The other big draw, strangely enough, is anything experimental or
 extreme.  It's a college town, go figure.


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2002-03-15 Thread Tosh Cooey
Re: luke slater and electro pop.

Tom, don't be so intelligent on this list, people don't appreciate it,
please discuss the latest Detroit promoter drama instead.

Tosh
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2002-03-15 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Actually, and I know you were joking around but, I thought what Tom said is
true and I appreciated him saying it. Electro-pop isn't really electro -
it's just electronic pop and has more to do with Hi-NRG as far as I'm
concerned than any true electro funk/breaks sound. That is what gets my
goat though. People are confusing it with electro. Some of the electro-pop
I love but lots of it is clearly sound of the month for some artists.

MEK




   
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Re: luke slater and electro pop.

Tom, don't be so intelligent on this list, people don't appreciate it,
please discuss the latest Detroit promoter drama instead.

Tosh
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Re: [313] Shut up [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2002-03-15 Thread Kent williams
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, and I know you were joking around but, I thought what Tom said is
 true and I appreciated him saying it. Electro-pop isn't really electro -
 it's just electronic pop and has more to do with Hi-NRG as far as I'm
 concerned than any true electro funk/breaks sound. That is what gets my
 goat though. People are confusing it with electro. Some of the electro-pop
 I love but lots of it is clearly sound of the month for some artists.


The whole Electro-clash thing is very fashionable now in New York; and
a lot of those acts are a lot of fun and have unique musical twists.
But when you talk about music, you need to separate fashion from artistic
value;  Electro-clash will be the flavor of choice among the tragically
hip for a while; Johnny Depp will hire Miss Kitten to DJ at his $5000/month
Paris flat, yadda yada.

But fashion is fickle, and fashion doesn't always reward merit.  Stuff
like Adult, Ectomorph, Drexciya, Japanese Telecom, etc will always be great
music, but it won't always be fashionable.

Right now, where I live, techno and house music are no longer that popular.
3 years ago we could get 300 nutters out to hear local DJs, and now I can
bring in internationally known artists and DJs and be lucky to get 150 people
through the door.  Which means I'm no longer as enthusiastic about promoting
as I once was, but it doesn't change how I feel about the music.  It just
means we'll go back to the basement with a couple of turntables and do our
thing for the 50 heads who really appreciate the music.

The big thing right now is Hip Hop shows -- local guys can draw 200 people,
and national and international acts can pack places.  There's also a dress
to impress bar that has a Chicago commercial house DJ that's packing them in.
Whatever.  The other big draw, strangely enough, is anything experimental or
extreme.  It's a college town, go figure.


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