Re: [313] mayday festival

2001-05-18 Thread Counterforce - Lay

Haye!

Sorry, old one, but I'm catching up...

> "Last year, Sony Records Germany made the mistake of trying to get round
> this by releasing a note-for-note cover version of the UR track Jaguar by
DJ
> Rolando. Banks heard about it, caught the first plane to Germany, armed
> himself, sought out the man proposing the release and told him that he
would
> kill him and everyone else involved if the version went ahead. Mills, who
> did a remix of Jaguar, is not talking to the press."

Can someone please provide me with the contact info for the author of this
article, or cotact info for "The Guardian"?


"Kill him"... Jesus christ...



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Re: [313] mayday festival

2001-05-04 Thread M Elliot-Knight

RE:

"I have come to the Mayday Parade to find out what makes techno tick. But 
first, a confession. My principal experience of this music was a visit in 
1990 to the London club Heaven on techno night. I spent six hours there 
chewing my cheeks and clinging to a pillar for fear that the world would 
collapse should I let go, and the brutal, never-ending beats and undulating 
waves of electronic pulses merely confused me. So the idea of spending a 
night in the company of 22,000 German ravers with spiky green hair was not a 
pleasant one. This would be an exercise in confronting my demons and making 
sense of this thing."


They obviously sent the wrong person.



"These DJs include Jeff Mills, who, as one of the members of uncompromising 
Detroit covert operation Underground Resistance, shares the techno tradition 
of being deeply suspicious of celebrity. He makes music that is spartan, 
cerebral and detested by the average happy-house fan. There's DJ Hell, 
famous for creating an ear-bleeding, stomach-pounding noise; and Mayday 
co-founder Westbam, who records an anthem for the festival each year, makes 
dark, simple electro trance that crescendos and sends German kids into a 
frenzy. There's the notorious Sven Vath, with his precision goatee and high 
profile, whose grandiose electronic pomposities make him techno's answer to 
Rick Wakeman."


Did this guy stop his research in 1995? He's waaay behind the current sounds 
of these artists and Jeff Mills hasn't been a part of UR for how long now??


"Last year, Sony Records Germany made the mistake of trying to get round 
this by releasing a note-for-note cover version of the UR track Jaguar by DJ 
Rolando. Banks heard about it, caught the first plane to Germany, armed 
himself, sought out the man proposing the release and told him that he would 
kill him and everyone else involved if the version went ahead..."


What?! Does anyone know if this is the way it went down? If this is 
unsubstantiated then I would presume that UR can bring some legal action 
against the Gaurdian for printing such a statement.


Hack job. Bad. Very very bad.

MEK


From: "Mann, Ravinder   [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: '313' <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: [313] mayday festival
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:51:01 +0100


"WORLD LARGEST TECHNO FESTIVAL" - really!?!?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/friday_review/story/0,3605,482416,00.html

Article from today The Guardian...I think they need to replace the word
techno with trance a number of times.

"But looking at this crowd, Underground Resistance's manifesto
 seems a world away. The Detroit pioneers wished to create a
 faceless music where the machine, not the person, was the
 star. At 3am the crowd greeted Sven Vath with a roar. "

	I think the above quote for me was all that was needed to be said, the 
rest?

pure jibberish and misinformation imho. Any thoughts..

Am I getting just too cynical in my old age?

Rav






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Re: [313] mayday festival

2001-05-04 Thread Kevin Conrad
> Ermmm, who has this guy been talking to? I still
> have to read the article 
> thoroughly, but I've found so much bullshit for now
> that I'm taking a break 
> from it.

  I stopped reading after the Mike Banks part, I don't
know if there's a reason to go back reading :) 

  Kevin

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Re: [313] mayday festival

2001-05-04 Thread Tom Robbins
Yeah, I was going to post this - just read it. The whole article is full of
innaccuracies, just one of which was describing Paul van Dyk as "techno's
biggest star". But the bit about Banks takes the biscuit - as if! He could
probably sue if he wanted to...

Shame that the Guardian, easily the best national newspaper in the UK,
should print such a load of toss.

TOM

PS: don't worry, John, we won't hold being Belgian against you... it's not
your fault... :-)



> Another extract that made my frown:
>
> "Last year, Sony Records Germany made the mistake of trying to get round
> this by releasing a note-for-note cover version of the UR track Jaguar by
DJ
> Rolando. Banks heard about it, caught the first plane to Germany, armed
> himself, sought out the man proposing the release and told him that he
would
> kill him and everyone else involved if the version went ahead. Mills, who
> did a remix of Jaguar, is not talking to the press."
>
> Plane to Germany, armed himself, kill the man and everyone else
> involved?
>
> Ermmm, who has this guy been talking to? I still have to read the article
> thoroughly, but I've found so much bullshit for now that I'm taking a
break
> from it.
>
> John
>
> Yet another one: "We have come from Antwerp to be here, and we can't stop
> now," a very young man with a flat-top haircut tells me. "Also, I have
just
> taken another pill."
>
> Grrr, ashamed to be Belgian!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Mann, Ravinder   [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: '313' <313@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: [313] mayday festival
> >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:51:01 +0100
> >
> >
> > "WORLD LARGEST TECHNO FESTIVAL" - really!?!?
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/friday_review/story/0,3605,482416,00.html
> >
> > Article from today The Guardian...I think they need to replace the word
> > techno with trance a number of times.
> >
> > "But looking at this crowd, Underground Resistance's manifesto
> > seems a world away. The Detroit pioneers wished to create a
> > faceless music where the machine, not the person, was the
> > star. At 3am the crowd greeted Sven Vath with a roar. "
> >
> > I think the above quote for me was all that was needed to be said, the
> >rest?
> > pure jibberish and misinformation imho. Any thoughts..
> >
> > Am I getting just too cynical in my old age?
> >
> > Rav
> >
> >
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RE: [313] mayday festival

2001-05-04 Thread Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
yup i think it this sort of misinformative, sensationist reporting which
makes real 'techno'
1) a joke to prospective listeners
2) a music for the 'yoof' - i think a lot of techno listerers are (well) into 
thier 30's (errm)
3) techno=drugs=X=Y=scapegoat for a socail 'issue'
i could go on but dont want to get into a rant

> -Original Message-
> From: John Osselaer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:07 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject:  Re: [313] mayday festival
> 
> Another extract that made my frown:
> 
> "Last year, Sony Records Germany made the mistake of trying to get round 
> this by releasing a note-for-note cover version of the UR track Jaguar by DJ 
> Rolando. Banks heard about it, caught the first plane to Germany, armed 
> himself, sought out the man proposing the release and told him that he would 
> kill him and everyone else involved if the version went ahead. Mills, who 
> did a remix of Jaguar, is not talking to the press."
> 
> Plane to Germany, armed himself, kill the man and everyone else 
> involved?
> 
> Ermmm, who has this guy been talking to? I still have to read the article 
> thoroughly, but I've found so much bullshit for now that I'm taking a break 
> from it.
> 
> John
> 
> Yet another one: "We have come from Antwerp to be here, and we can't stop 
> now," a very young man with a flat-top haircut tells me. "Also, I have just 
> taken another pill."
> 
> Grrr, ashamed to be Belgian!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Mann, Ravinder   [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: '313' <313@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: [313] mayday festival
> >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:51:01 +0100
> >
> >
> > "WORLD LARGEST TECHNO FESTIVAL" - really!?!?
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/friday_review/story/0,3605,482416,00.html
> >
> > Article from today The Guardian...I think they need to replace the word
> > techno with trance a number of times.
> >
> > "But looking at this crowd, Underground Resistance's manifesto
> >  seems a world away. The Detroit pioneers wished to create a
> >  faceless music where the machine, not the person, was the
> >  star. At 3am the crowd greeted Sven Vath with a roar. "
> >
> > I think the above quote for me was all that was needed to be said, the 
> >rest?
> > pure jibberish and misinformation imho. Any thoughts..
> >
> > Am I getting just too cynical in my old age?
> >
> > Rav
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [313] mayday festival

2001-05-04 Thread John Osselaer

Another extract that made my frown:

"Last year, Sony Records Germany made the mistake of trying to get round 
this by releasing a note-for-note cover version of the UR track Jaguar by DJ 
Rolando. Banks heard about it, caught the first plane to Germany, armed 
himself, sought out the man proposing the release and told him that he would 
kill him and everyone else involved if the version went ahead. Mills, who 
did a remix of Jaguar, is not talking to the press."


Plane to Germany, armed himself, kill the man and everyone else 
involved?


Ermmm, who has this guy been talking to? I still have to read the article 
thoroughly, but I've found so much bullshit for now that I'm taking a break 
from it.


John

Yet another one: "We have come from Antwerp to be here, and we can't stop 
now," a very young man with a flat-top haircut tells me. "Also, I have just 
taken another pill."


Grrr, ashamed to be Belgian!









From: "Mann, Ravinder   [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: '313' <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: [313] mayday festival
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:51:01 +0100


"WORLD LARGEST TECHNO FESTIVAL" - really!?!?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/friday_review/story/0,3605,482416,00.html

Article from today The Guardian...I think they need to replace the word
techno with trance a number of times.

"But looking at this crowd, Underground Resistance's manifesto
 seems a world away. The Detroit pioneers wished to create a
 faceless music where the machine, not the person, was the
 star. At 3am the crowd greeted Sven Vath with a roar. "

	I think the above quote for me was all that was needed to be said, the 
rest?

pure jibberish and misinformation imho. Any thoughts..

Am I getting just too cynical in my old age?

Rav






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