RE: RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
It obviously wasn't gay enough! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com] Sent: 15 December 2008 21:49 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Fw: RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night Ah, but I do have that! And it wasn't any help. fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- From: rdtay...@channel4.co.uk Robert Taylor Subject: RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:59:03 - IIRC you have a moustache - you'll have got in alright! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
IIRC you have a moustache - you'll have got in alright! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] Sent: 12 December 2008 09:11 To: Fred Heutte; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night Second-hand [but well informed] advice: Dress as if you aim to make a small impression *and* sweat and have fun - although of course you'll need a coat whilst you're waiting to get in! Smile. Don't appear to be freaked by the freaks! :) As you know, this is perhaps the quintessential metropolis, and to a large extent people are free to be what they want, especially at night, and it being Berlin, more than the average number of people in a normal Western city, seem to take up that offer! Be sober. Please let us know how it goes, including the gig. :) Ken -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:17 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night www.octaveone.com 13 December 2008: Klubnacht @ Berghain Berlin, Germany Anyone up for this ? I'm coming back to Berlin from the UN climate conference in Poland early evening on Saturday. Don't have a hotel yet but I'll be making those arrangements Friday. I have heard, um, stories about access to Berghain. Since I am just some random old guy as far as doorpeople are concerned, advice about how to get in (and when, I don't want to wait around 6 hours for the guys to play) would be helpful. To see Rob Hood and Doc Martin at Fabric (Fabric!! not exactly your hypo-exclusive club) this past June, I had to pull off every social engineering trick I know but I did finally get in. I'm not sure I'll have that kind of patience this time. But I would love to see Octave One (longtime friends and, to be sure, one of the great techno live groups) especially in Berlin. cheers Fred Euro cell number until Dec 15: +48 785 401 096 # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Fw: Re: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
Akufen told me the same thing happened to him a couple years ago at Berghain. fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- CC: 313@hyperreal.org From: grand...@mac.com Klaas-Jan Jongsma Subject: Re: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:38:43 +0100 Well if i would you i would simply forget it. I have never been impressed by Bouncers at a club or under the impression that they were smart and intelligent. If they would be smart and intelligent they wouldn't have been bouncers in the first place. I remember this storry from somewhere in the mid-nineties were Speedy J was denied entrance into a club. Now the thing is that he had to preform there and just did a soundcheck and went outside for a while. Then there is this bouncer that wouldnt let him in... KJ
Fw: RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
Ah, but I do have that! And it wasn't any help. fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- From: rdtay...@channel4.co.uk Robert Taylor Subject: RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:59:03 - IIRC you have a moustache - you'll have got in alright! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide
Re: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
Andrew Beddow a écrit : On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 9:52 AM, fran...@thatamazingthing fran...@thatamazingthing.com Think the door peepz there want as mixed and interesting a crowd as possible. Right now that probably means not another late 20s Brit flown in from London to the new Prague for the weekend. yeah, as a mid-20s Brit, my secret weapon for getting past the door staff is a Danish girlfriend with fluent German. may encounter more difficulties getting in without... On a broader side, as far as I have seen (that means in France and specially in Paris), the doors seems to be more tolerant and open minded in 'techno' clubs rather than the others. That does not mean eveybody can get in, but just that our 'regular' clubs seem to accept only posh people. Any thoughts ? How is it abroad ? -- Benoît.
Re: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
Well as it turned out I -did- get rejected at the door, but was saved from a cold walk back to the hotel by being on Octave One's list. So all's well . . . I arrived just as Octave One were starting; they played precisely an hour between 5:00 and 6:00 and then an encore. As usual they were on form, really upbeat performance with a fairly good crowd reaction for most of it. The sound wasn't great during their set, a bit crackly, although I've observed that big sound systems are very unforgiving to live setups whether analog and/or digital. During the encore Lenny did Moby one better -- not only did he get up on the table where all the gear was to cheer on the crowd, he continued to play, reaching down to hit the controls at the right moment. Maybe not as great as Hendrix playing the guitar with his teeth but pretty darn exciting :) Kevin Saunderson was also on his best game, none of the cheesy stuff I've heard him play the last few times I've seen him -- housey techno all the way with the usual bits of Good Life thrown in throughout. The floor was up for it the whole way and he had a big smile. I didn't stay long after that, the following DJ was kind of boring and the Panaromabar was overcrowded with semi-drunk scenesters. The club is big and the sound in the main room is impressive (though not the best i've ever heard, that honor goes to the old 177 Townsend system in SF and the Twilo system in NY). The crowd was reasonably friendly and actually dancing quite a bit. I don't think I'm likely to go back except for a special occasion like this if I happen to be in Berlin again, because when you get down to it, it's really just another big club with door staff who discriminate because they can. I've been in and around the music scene for much, much longer than they have, and I don't need that sh1t. cheers Fred
RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
If you don't mind me asking, what do you look like? -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:11 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night Well as it turned out I -did- get rejected at the door, but was saved from a cold walk back to the hotel by being on Octave One's list. So all's well . . . I arrived just as Octave One were starting; they played precisely an hour between 5:00 and 6:00 and then an encore. As usual they were on form, really upbeat performance with a fairly good crowd reaction for most of it. The sound wasn't great during their set, a bit crackly, although I've observed that big sound systems are very unforgiving to live setups whether analog and/or digital. During the encore Lenny did Moby one better -- not only did he get up on the table where all the gear was to cheer on the crowd, he continued to play, reaching down to hit the controls at the right moment. Maybe not as great as Hendrix playing the guitar with his teeth but pretty darn exciting :) Kevin Saunderson was also on his best game, none of the cheesy stuff I've heard him play the last few times I've seen him -- housey techno all the way with the usual bits of Good Life thrown in throughout. The floor was up for it the whole way and he had a big smile. I didn't stay long after that, the following DJ was kind of boring and the Panaromabar was overcrowded with semi-drunk scenesters. The club is big and the sound in the main room is impressive (though not the best i've ever heard, that honor goes to the old 177 Townsend system in SF and the Twilo system in NY). The crowd was reasonably friendly and actually dancing quite a bit. I don't think I'm likely to go back except for a special occasion like this if I happen to be in Berlin again, because when you get down to it, it's really just another big club with door staff who discriminate because they can. I've been in and around the music scene for much, much longer than they have, and I don't need that sh1t. cheers Fred No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1847 - Release Date: 12/13/2008 4:56 PM
Re: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
Jack boldly declared Let There Be House, ... And as I told you before this is our House and our House Music, ... You may be 'whatever you are', It don't make a difference in our house. And this 'should be the guiding principle'. Sorry, it's easy and full bitterness, but i don't like that either. -K* - Original Message - From: Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:11 PM Subject: Re: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night I don't think I'm likely to go back except for a special occasion like this if I happen to be in Berlin again, because when you get down to it, it's really just another big club with door staff who discriminate because they can. I've been in and around the music scene for much, much longer than they have, and I don't need that sh1t. cheers Fred
RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
Second-hand [but well informed] advice: Dress as if you aim to make a small impression *and* sweat and have fun - although of course you'll need a coat whilst you're waiting to get in! Smile. Don't appear to be freaked by the freaks! :) As you know, this is perhaps the quintessential metropolis, and to a large extent people are free to be what they want, especially at night, and it being Berlin, more than the average number of people in a normal Western city, seem to take up that offer! Be sober. Please let us know how it goes, including the gig. :) Ken -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:17 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night www.octaveone.com 13 December 2008: Klubnacht @ Berghain Berlin, Germany Anyone up for this ? I'm coming back to Berlin from the UN climate conference in Poland early evening on Saturday. Don't have a hotel yet but I'll be making those arrangements Friday. I have heard, um, stories about access to Berghain. Since I am just some random old guy as far as doorpeople are concerned, advice about how to get in (and when, I don't want to wait around 6 hours for the guys to play) would be helpful. To see Rob Hood and Doc Martin at Fabric (Fabric!! not exactly your hypo-exclusive club) this past June, I had to pull off every social engineering trick I know but I did finally get in. I'm not sure I'll have that kind of patience this time. But I would love to see Octave One (longtime friends and, to be sure, one of the great techno live groups) especially in Berlin. cheers Fred Euro cell number until Dec 15: +48 785 401 096
Re: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
Forgot to send my reply to the list: Hi Fred, Berghain puts the set times up on their myspace. Here you go: 24:00 h – 5:00 h Norman Nodge 5:00 h – 6:00 h Octave One live 6:00 h – 8:00 h Kevin Sounderson 8:00 h – ende Andre Galluzzi Panorama Bar Made To Play from 12 til 12. 24:00 h – 6:00 h Tristan Da Cunha Adam Shelton 6:00 h – 9:00 h Jesse Rose 9:00 h – 12:00 h Claude Von Stroke 12:00 h – 15:00 h Cassy 15:00 h – 18:00 h Radio Slave 18:00 h – 21:00 h James Holden 21:00 h – ende Steffi Berghain looks very strong that night. Perfect techno club. Panoramabar rather wretched until midday, but should have a nice atmosphere anyway (it tends to) so worth popping your head in. In terms of getting in, I've never had any issue. Going by yourself is an advantage. Learn the German for 'Just me', or 'One', as the bouncer may ask you How many are going in?. Just look serious in the queue, don't speak English, and don't dick around, and you should be fine. The bouncers are all middle aged gay men, as is the core Ostgut crowd, so they're far from ageist. It's a much, much older crowd than in Fabric (panoramabar is younger, same entry system, but very marked separation inside). Since it's Berghain's birthday, and Berghain is the gay part of the club, they may be stricter on the door -- but as a single male, you should be the beneficiary of this. Having said all this, you're more likely to get turned away if you go during peak queuing time (roughly 2-7). Remember in Berlin once you've paid, you get a stamp allowing you access to the club any time, so going at 12, getting a stamp, and coming back a few hours later is always an option. Andrew On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: Second-hand [but well informed] advice: Dress as if you aim to make a small impression *and* sweat and have fun - although of course you'll need a coat whilst you're waiting to get in! Smile. Don't appear to be freaked by the freaks! :) As you know, this is perhaps the quintessential metropolis, and to a large extent people are free to be what they want, especially at night, and it being Berlin, more than the average number of people in a normal Western city, seem to take up that offer! Be sober. Please let us know how it goes, including the gig. :) Ken -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:17 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night www.octaveone.com 13 December 2008: Klubnacht @ Berghain Berlin, Germany Anyone up for this ? I'm coming back to Berlin from the UN climate conference in Poland early evening on Saturday. Don't have a hotel yet but I'll be making those arrangements Friday. I have heard, um, stories about access to Berghain. Since I am just some random old guy as far as doorpeople are concerned, advice about how to get in (and when, I don't want to wait around 6 hours for the guys to play) would be helpful. To see Rob Hood and Doc Martin at Fabric (Fabric!! not exactly your hypo-exclusive club) this past June, I had to pull off every social engineering trick I know but I did finally get in. I'm not sure I'll have that kind of patience this time. But I would love to see Octave One (longtime friends and, to be sure, one of the great techno live groups) especially in Berlin. cheers Fred Euro cell number until Dec 15: +48 785 401 096
RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
Fred random old guy This will probably help - I'm an old guy and I don't think it's done me any harm there. Think the door peepz there want as mixed and interesting a crowd as possible. Right now that probably means not another late 20s Brit flown in from London to the new Prague for the weekend. I heard from a stateside friend that if the doorguys talk to him he emphasises he's not a Brit (not a good calling card at Berlin doors now). (Unlike me) you probably don't have to worry about being too deranged when you get to the door as that might not fly well either. Think I heard second hand one of the guys say they're on the lookout for people who are not being genuine in some way (not much help). (Depending on what time O1 are on) I think it's probably easier to get in after the queue dies down, which I imagine is after 7am? (can more knowledgeable headz give an accurate figure for this?). (and when, I don't want to wait around 6 hours for the guys to play) The running order is usually posted on Berghain's MySpace a day or 2 before. Don't have a hotel yet but I'll be making those arrangements Friday. Circus Hostel or their hotel are good and good €. From: Fred Heutte [mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com] Sent: 12 December 2008 0:17 www.octaveone.com 13 December 2008: Klubnacht @ Berghain Berlin, Germany Anyone up for this ? I'm coming back to Berlin from the UN climate conference in Poland early evening on Saturday. Don't have a hotel yet but I'll be making those arrangements Friday. I have heard, um, stories about access to Berghain. Since I am just some random old guy as far as doorpeople are concerned, advice about how to get in (and when, I don't want to wait around 6 hours for the guys to play) would be helpful. To see Rob Hood and Doc Martin at Fabric (Fabric!! not exactly your hypo-exclusive club) this past June, I had to pull off every social engineering trick I know but I did finally get in. I'm not sure I'll have that kind of patience this time. But I would love to see Octave One (longtime friends and, to be sure, one of the great techno live groups) especially in Berlin. cheers Fred Euro cell number until Dec 15: +48 785 401 096
Re: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 9:52 AM, fran...@thatamazingthing fran...@thatamazingthing.com Think the door peepz there want as mixed and interesting a crowd as possible. Right now that probably means not another late 20s Brit flown in from London to the new Prague for the weekend. yeah, as a mid-20s Brit, my secret weapon for getting past the door staff is a Danish girlfriend with fluent German. may encounter more difficulties getting in without...
RE: (313) Octave One at Berghain, Berlin this Saturday night
thanks again to francis and all others for advice, it's always an adventure. I normally don't tolerate club nonsense, but this is O1 and KMS and it is, after all, Berghain. So I'll do the best I can. Your name's not down, you're not on the list...! fh
