Re: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
On Sep 10, 2004, at 5:00 AM, Brendan Nelson wrote: The central difference between "Night Fever" and other books Matt mentions below is that the other books are all contemporary while the Face book compiles articles written when these things were actually happening, so it has a bit more of an "atmosphere" as a result. yeah, always fun to read UK press types trying out adjectives for a 'new' developments in dance music stateside. Kind of cool to see people grappling with the concepts of an underground musical movement in, uh, realtime.. as it were -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
Yeah, that's the book. Well worth a read, I reckon. The unifying theme behind each of the articles, which span from 1980 up til 1999 (IIRC), is nightclubs and dance culture. Other points of interest in the book include an article on NYC disco from 1983, featuring interviews with people like Shep Pettibone and Francois K; Neil Rushton's "Northern Soul Primer" from 1982; and a slightly mick-taking look at the early 90s crusty types who populated clubs like Whirl-y-gig. The central difference between "Night Fever" and other books Matt mentions below is that the other books are all contemporary while the Face book compiles articles written when these things were actually happening, so it has a bit more of an "atmosphere" as a result. Nice cover photo too! Brendan > -Original Message- > From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 September 2004 23:06 > To: Alex Bond; 313 > Subject: Re: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986) > > > > On Sep 9, 2004, at 9:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > just following on from this topic, I found an interview with David > > Toop. > > > > (the writer of said electro article from '84) > > I may have deleted it but I think someone just mentioned the > book that > compiles some articles from The Face. It's pretty interesting, if > you're into reading things like Techno Rebels and Last Night a DJ > and Love Saves The Day, then check it out.. there is the infamous one > (I think by Stuart Cosgrove) about Detroit's 'holy trinity'. It's a > collection of many different articles thought, not a book > with central > premise. Still, some funny stuff. > > more info > http://www.journalism.sfsu.edu/flux/literati/fever.html > > i've always loved that cover photo > > > -- > Matt MacQueen > http://SonicSunset.com > >
Re: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
On Sep 9, 2004, at 9:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just following on from this topic, I found an interview with David Toop. (the writer of said electro article from '84) I may have deleted it but I think someone just mentioned the book that compiles some articles from The Face. It's pretty interesting, if you're into reading things like Techno Rebels and Last Night a DJ and Love Saves The Day, then check it out.. there is the infamous one (I think by Stuart Cosgrove) about Detroit's 'holy trinity'. It's a collection of many different articles thought, not a book with central premise. Still, some funny stuff. more info http://www.journalism.sfsu.edu/flux/literati/fever.html i've always loved that cover photo -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
>87 does seem way too early It is I think. Paul, Have a look for us if you know where it is Ta! Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
87 does seem way too early -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 4:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986) >There wasn't another one - it started off as a fanzine - I remember buying it in clothes shops in Leeds in the >early 90s I know, but I'm relatively sure it wasn't going in '87. maybe I'm wrong tho' Paul Placid said it was called Jocks then, but I don't reckon it was johnno and paul, I don't even think they were in Manchester by this time. I think this is a different one... Might be wrong like. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
trouser press? ;) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986) There wasn't another one - it started off as a fanzine - I remember buying it in clothes shops in Leeds in the early 90s -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986) >I had a copy of 'jockey slut' from 1987 not the jockey slut that just went bust though no? didn't know there was another one... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
>There wasn't another one - it started off as a fanzine - I remember buying it in clothes shops in Leeds in the >early 90s I know, but I'm relatively sure it wasn't going in '87. maybe I'm wrong tho' Paul Placid said it was called Jocks then, but I don't reckon it was johnno and paul, I don't even think they were in Manchester by this time. I think this is a different one... Might be wrong like. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
There wasn't another one - it started off as a fanzine - I remember buying it in clothes shops in Leeds in the early 90s -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986) >I had a copy of 'jockey slut' from 1987 not the jockey slut that just went bust though no? didn't know there was another one... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
>I had a copy of 'jockey slut' from 1987 not the jockey slut that just went bust though no? didn't know there was another one... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
I had a copy of 'jockey slut' from 1987 when it had rhythim is rhythim the dance just came out 'all rather weird sounding, almost as if it had been played on a succession of drains' was the review made me laugh took me 2 years to actually buy the record tho. p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 September 2004 11:12 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986) Hey Brendan. >Is that the June 1984 one? Not 100% sure, it's at home >I've got that book which has a big selection of >Face articles on clubbing and dance music culture, and it includes a big >electro article from 1984 by David Toop and Paul Rambali I recognise the name D.Toop, must be that article. >I'm guessing you've got the original issue? Yeah, yeah! Pretty interesting reading, esp, for £2! There was record reviews in there of 2 records I've bought in the last 2 months as well! Some nice background info on some obscure pieces I got. I'd really really like to find that house one, cheers for that! Hey, this was in that little MVE at Notting Hill Gate that has CD's/Books/Mags. Maybe they might have one kicking about in there? Hey, if anyone from the list would like me to photocopy the interesting bits out of it and send them out, then hit me with a private mail and I shall do it tomorrow. Any more points of interest in the book Brendan? Any record reviews or anything? p.s. Brendan, if you've not checked it, I reckon you might find the book "loves saves the day" interesting. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
just following on from this topic, I found an interview with David Toop. (the writer of said electro article from '84) http://www.djhistory.com/books/archiveInterviewDisplay.php?interview_id=34 enjoy! also, the other interviews on that site are EXCELLENT _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
1986? 20 years? does that mean next year's the last of all this? I'm trying to calm my outrageous clubbing ways at present but perhaps I'd better make the most of it before it goes.
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
Hey Brendan. >Is that the June 1984 one? Not 100% sure, it's at home >I've got that book which has a big selection of >Face articles on clubbing and dance music culture, and it includes a big >electro article from 1984 by David Toop and Paul Rambali I recognise the name D.Toop, must be that article. >I'm guessing you've got the original issue? Yeah, yeah! Pretty interesting reading, esp, for £2! There was record reviews in there of 2 records I've bought in the last 2 months as well! Some nice background info on some obscure pieces I got. I'd really really like to find that house one, cheers for that! Hey, this was in that little MVE at Notting Hill Gate that has CD's/Books/Mags. Maybe they might have one kicking about in there? Hey, if anyone from the list would like me to photocopy the interesting bits out of it and send them out, then hit me with a private mail and I shall do it tomorrow. Any more points of interest in the book Brendan? Any record reviews or anything? p.s. Brendan, if you've not checked it, I reckon you might find the book "loves saves the day" interesting. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 (and 1986)
Is that the June 1984 one? I've got that book which has a big selection of Face articles on clubbing and dance music culture, and it includes a big electro article from 1984 by David Toop and Paul Rambali - I'm guessing you've got the original issue? "Competition is fierce, reputations are waiting to be made or lost. The threat of 'pirates' or 'biters'... is always present." That book also has a fairly funny article about house, where a Face journalist, Sheryl Garratt, goes to visit Chicago and hangs around with Chip-E, Ron Hardy, Marshall Jefferson, Frankie Knuckles and co in 1986. She asks the question, "what is house music?", and all hell breaks loose... "House music? I couldn't even begin to tell you what house is. You have to go to the clubs and see how people react when they hear it. It's more like a feeling that runs through, like old-time religion in the way that people jus' get happy and screamin'. It's happening! It's... house!" "Let me see if I can put it better. It's more like eighties disco songs in eighties style." "It's Chicago's own sound." "'cept it came from New York, and they don't know it." "It's rock til you drop, that's what it is!" "It's a status symbol to party all night at the Music Box. Everybody goes there - all the hippest kids in the city!" "You'll leave there a changed person. You might go and seek religion afterwards!" She ends up being impressed by the enthusiasm of the house scene's advocates, but not by the music. She describes "Awww Shucks" by saying "it was made cheaply and somehow sounds even cheaper. But that, everyone tells me, is part of the appeal." This 1986 article on house ends with the journalist asking Chip-E how long they can keep doing it (house) before people get bored. He turns to her with a grin and says "about twenty years"... Brendan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 September 2004 10:48 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) The Face Magazine 1984 > > > While I was in London, I walked past this shop and spotted an old face > magazine from '84. > > It's the one where the cover is a mock-up of the streetsounds electro > comps. > > Big feature issue on Electro, loads of interesting shizz. So I picked it > up, only £2. > > Anyhow, the editorial informs me that in 1984 England's dancefloors were > "reverberating to the sound of techno-funk" and it also refers to the > "fierce dancable beat" going round the clubs. > > so, yeah, "techno-funk" in 1984. In England! > > nice. > > I always knew we were pioneers really > > ; ) > _ > > - End of message text > > This e-mail is sent by the above named in their > individual, non-business capacity and is not on > behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and > telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you > give your consent to such monitoring >
