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See what you think: http://soundcloud.com/christianprommer/christian-prommer-jaguar Cheers, Wes -- http://soundcloud.com/westonprince On 2/22/10 4:31 PM, "kent williams" wrote: > I've been digging this South African guy Black Coffee, but the track > '100 Zulu Warriors' cracked me up -- listen and you'll know why: > > http://tinyurl.com/ya87zbu
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speaking of Mills... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGzDEvfP_7Q Beyond the dance indeed. W. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Fred Heutte wrote: > I look at it a little differently. > > Activity on 313 has always been mostly proportional to the amount > of activity in Detroit -- tracks being released, and of course since > 2000 the annual cycle of the festival. > > Then there is a general but somewhat variable flow of comments > on music-and-people-that-in-some-way-are-influenced-by-something- > from-Detroit. > > For a very long time, nearly a decade, 313 activity has mostly > been people who don't live in Detroit. Dluv and other places are > where the locals hang. That's fine, I keep track of both and > participate more here. 313 continues to be one of the more rewarding > non-work lists I'm on. > > I also think that continuing as an email-only list has gradually resulted > in a kind of age-graded participation. Those who came onto the net > post-email, then post-phpBB, post-MyTribeFace and soon post-Twitter > are in micro-generations that have no direct connection to the Detroit- > techno-widely-conceived that has always been the core 313 focus. > But I also don't see that this is unusual, nor that a lot can be done > about it. > > And my sense is that 313 will continue for a good long while because > there is still a critical mass of list subscribers, enough of the Detroit- > related activity we've always talked about, and, aside from > occasional waywardness, a not-bad signal-to-noise ratio overall. > > Conclusion: rumors of the death of 313 are greatly exaggerated. > > fh > > PS There's always been a real easy way to gear up a big surge of > comments on 313, and that is to start a thread on J--- M. You first. > > > > - >>I don't know about 'over' but perhaps slumbering. I know that I'm >>starting way too many threads relative to other people on the list. >> >>Keep in mind that in the dark days when the 313 list started, people >>could subscribe without even having a regular internet connection. I >>think a fair percentage of people on the list were using terminals on >>University campuses, and hadn't yet bought a home computer or laptop. >> >>There was no Facebook, Twitter, Message Boards, You Tube, Bit Torrent etc. >> >>Detroit Techno Artists still lived in Detroit, or sometimes Chicago. >>They all had their original wives. I know, some of them still do. >> >>Perhaps e-mail lists are a vestigial feature of the Internet now. I >>have to think there is a whole generation who are on the internet >>constantly who don't even know what an e-mail list is, at this point. >> When there is a critical mass of active contributors it's still >>preferable to me for many reasons too boring to list. >> >>All you have to do to make it die is unsubscribe. Everyone makes that >>choice for themselves. >> >>On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Odeluga, Ken >>wrote: >>> Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' >>> 'of,' ... >>> >>> I know I'm not helping much though ;-) >>> >>> Is 313 over? >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> >> > >
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No idea - not really that bothered with his existence - I can tell you what synths I use! Today's lineup: Access virus C desktop Alesis Air Synth 2x Yamaha SY-2 2x Yamaha DX 11 Yamaha DX27 Korg DW-8000 2x Oberheim Matrix 6-R Yamaha TX 816 Roland MKS-80 Rev 3 s/n S1 Roland MKS-80 Rev 4 Oberheim Matrix 1000 TB-303 Waldorf Q+ Phoenix Edition Lots of software stuff.. D. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 15:25, ohanakin ... wrote: > ok then, what synths does mills use ? > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:51 AM, cheater cheater wrote: >> Hey, I can go on about synths all day. >> >> D. >> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 02:09, kuszyn...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> Mailing lists are an incredibly important part of my communication >>> ritual, and since my job blocks facebook and all other communication >>> websites, i just do my mailing lists on my iphone. >>> >>> Furthermore, as already stated above, it let's me talk to all you old >>> people who actually have something interesting to say about detroit >>> techno and the things that people who like detroit techno like (except >>> for synthesizers, not many of you other than kent talk about >>> synthesizers). >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:51 PM, kent williams >>> wrote: >>>> Honestly, I don't think that lack of detailed Otaku-style knowledge is >>>> or should be a barrier to entering discussion. Everyone has their own >>>> personal reactions and tastes, and as long as they are expressed >>>> respectfully I think they'll be treated respectfully. >>>> >>>> And if not, welcome to the Internet. 313 is too low traffic to be of >>>> much use to trolls at this point, though. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's >>>>> OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >>>>> >>>>> I have over 8000 emails in my Inbox, want to guess how much of a >>>>> percentage >>>>> the 313 list makes up of those? I rarely post on here because too often I >>>>> am >>>>> dwarfed by the monsters of "to no-end of details" posters, where I little >>>>> me, enjoy Detroit techno, grew up going to parties when I think they were >>>>> first ones that took place in the D, but I have no idea who composed Taxi >>>>> Driver, how many seasons there were of the New Dance Show, and whose DAT >>>>> deck Derrick May swiped a copy of a classic Detroit track to call it his >>>>> own(Or one of those other guys). And when I do post I am normally stomped >>>>> on >>>>> for my total and offensive ignorous of the "purity" of the love of this >>>>> music. But I watch on the sidelines anyways. I think if there were >>>>> something >>>>> to kill this list it is that. If you don't have all the facts, you can't >>>>> join in the conversation. And this is truely one of the most anal >>>>> discussion >>>>> lists out there in regards to talking about a music; an art form. No >>>>> offence >>>>> meant. >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: kent williams >>>>> To: Odeluga, Ken >>>>> Cc: Matt Kane's Brain ; cheater cheater >>>>> ; Frank Glazer ; list 313 >>>>> <313@hyperreal.org> >>>>> Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 4:50 pm >>>>> Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk >>>>>> of >>>>>> what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. >>>>>> >>>>> I think my original post that started this thread was very much on >>>>> topic and music-focused for what it's worth. I think it's exciting >>>>> to hear cool music from ZA that has obvious Detroit Techno influence. >>>>> Africans taking techno and house and making their own thing out of it >>>>> is a 600 year circle completed. >>>>> >>>>>> I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with >>>>>> twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. >>>>>> >>>>> Well the list will be here, as long as Brian Behlendorf keeps >>>>> Hyperreal.org alive. It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's >>>>> OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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I think he's discussed it at a number of ocassions, but my funny spot-that-preset moment was when I bought an $80 Korg x5dr mini half rack rompler synth, and one of the fx/pad sounds was 100% identical to a track on the mills lifelike Japanese album/compilation import. I felt so connected. On Tuesday, February 23, 2010, ohanakin ... wrote: > ok then, what synths does mills use ? > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:51 AM, cheater cheater wrote: >> Hey, I can go on about synths all day. >> >> D. >> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 02:09, kuszyn...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> Mailing lists are an incredibly important part of my communication >>> ritual, and since my job blocks facebook and all other communication >>> websites, i just do my mailing lists on my iphone. >>> >>> Furthermore, as already stated above, it let's me talk to all you old >>> people who actually have something interesting to say about detroit >>> techno and the things that people who like detroit techno like (except >>> for synthesizers, not many of you other than kent talk about >>> synthesizers). >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:51 PM, kent williams >>> wrote: >>>> Honestly, I don't think that lack of detailed Otaku-style knowledge is >>>> or should be a barrier to entering discussion. Everyone has their own >>>> personal reactions and tastes, and as long as they are expressed >>>> respectfully I think they'll be treated respectfully. >>>> >>>> And if not, welcome to the Internet. 313 is too low traffic to be of >>>> much use to trolls at this point, though. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's >>>>> OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >>>>> >>>>> I have over 8000 emails in my Inbox, want to guess how much of a >>>>> percentage >>>>> the 313 list makes up of those? I rarely post on here because too often I >>>>> am >>>>> dwarfed by the monsters of "to no-end of details" posters, where I little >>>>> me, enjoy Detroit techno, grew up going to parties when I think they were >>>>> first ones that took place in the D, but I have no idea who composed Taxi >>>>> Driver, how many seasons there were of the New Dance Show, and whose DAT >>>>> deck Derrick May swiped a copy of a classic Detroit track to call it his >>>>> own(Or one of those other guys). And when I do post I am normally stomped >>>>> on >>>>> for my total and offensive ignorous of the "purity" of the love of this >>>>> music. But I watch on the sidelines anyways. I think if there were >>>>> something >>>>> to kill this list it is that. If you don't have all the facts, you can't >>>>> join in the conversation. And this is truely one of the most anal >>>>> discussion >>>>> lists out there in regards to talking about a music; an art form. No >>>>> offence >>>>> meant. >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: kent williams >>>>> To: Odeluga, Ken >>>>> Cc: Matt Kane's Brain ; cheater cheater >>>>> ; Frank Glazer ; list 313 >>>>> <313@hyperreal.org> >>>>> Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 4:50 pm >>>>> Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk >>>>>> of >>>>>> what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. >>>
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ok then, what synths does mills use ? On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:51 AM, cheater cheater wrote: > Hey, I can go on about synths all day. > > D. > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 02:09, kuszyn...@gmail.com > wrote: >> Mailing lists are an incredibly important part of my communication >> ritual, and since my job blocks facebook and all other communication >> websites, i just do my mailing lists on my iphone. >> >> Furthermore, as already stated above, it let's me talk to all you old >> people who actually have something interesting to say about detroit >> techno and the things that people who like detroit techno like (except >> for synthesizers, not many of you other than kent talk about >> synthesizers). >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:51 PM, kent williams >> wrote: >>> Honestly, I don't think that lack of detailed Otaku-style knowledge is >>> or should be a barrier to entering discussion. Everyone has their own >>> personal reactions and tastes, and as long as they are expressed >>> respectfully I think they'll be treated respectfully. >>> >>> And if not, welcome to the Internet. 313 is too low traffic to be of >>> much use to trolls at this point, though. >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>> It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's >>>> OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >>>> >>>> I have over 8000 emails in my Inbox, want to guess how much of a percentage >>>> the 313 list makes up of those? I rarely post on here because too often I >>>> am >>>> dwarfed by the monsters of "to no-end of details" posters, where I little >>>> me, enjoy Detroit techno, grew up going to parties when I think they were >>>> first ones that took place in the D, but I have no idea who composed Taxi >>>> Driver, how many seasons there were of the New Dance Show, and whose DAT >>>> deck Derrick May swiped a copy of a classic Detroit track to call it his >>>> own(Or one of those other guys). And when I do post I am normally stomped >>>> on >>>> for my total and offensive ignorous of the "purity" of the love of this >>>> music. But I watch on the sidelines anyways. I think if there were >>>> something >>>> to kill this list it is that. If you don't have all the facts, you can't >>>> join in the conversation. And this is truely one of the most anal >>>> discussion >>>> lists out there in regards to talking about a music; an art form. No >>>> offence >>>> meant. >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: kent williams >>>> To: Odeluga, Ken >>>> Cc: Matt Kane's Brain ; cheater cheater >>>> ; Frank Glazer ; list 313 >>>> <313@hyperreal.org> >>>> Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 4:50 pm >>>> Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of >>>>> what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. >>>>> >>>> I think my original post that started this thread was very much on >>>> topic and music-focused for what it's worth. I think it's exciting >>>> to hear cool music from ZA that has obvious Detroit Techno influence. >>>> Africans taking techno and house and making their own thing out of it >>>> is a 600 year circle completed. >>>> >>>>> I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with >>>>> twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. >>>>> >>>> Well the list will be here, as long as Brian Behlendorf keeps >>>> Hyperreal.org alive. It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's >>>> OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >>>> >>> >> >
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Hey, I can go on about synths all day. D. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 02:09, kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: > Mailing lists are an incredibly important part of my communication > ritual, and since my job blocks facebook and all other communication > websites, i just do my mailing lists on my iphone. > > Furthermore, as already stated above, it let's me talk to all you old > people who actually have something interesting to say about detroit > techno and the things that people who like detroit techno like (except > for synthesizers, not many of you other than kent talk about > synthesizers). > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:51 PM, kent williams wrote: >> Honestly, I don't think that lack of detailed Otaku-style knowledge is >> or should be a barrier to entering discussion. Everyone has their own >> personal reactions and tastes, and as long as they are expressed >> respectfully I think they'll be treated respectfully. >> >> And if not, welcome to the Internet. 313 is too low traffic to be of >> much use to trolls at this point, though. >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM, wrote: >>> >>> It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's >>> OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >>> >>> I have over 8000 emails in my Inbox, want to guess how much of a percentage >>> the 313 list makes up of those? I rarely post on here because too often I am >>> dwarfed by the monsters of "to no-end of details" posters, where I little >>> me, enjoy Detroit techno, grew up going to parties when I think they were >>> first ones that took place in the D, but I have no idea who composed Taxi >>> Driver, how many seasons there were of the New Dance Show, and whose DAT >>> deck Derrick May swiped a copy of a classic Detroit track to call it his >>> own(Or one of those other guys). And when I do post I am normally stomped on >>> for my total and offensive ignorous of the "purity" of the love of this >>> music. But I watch on the sidelines anyways. I think if there were something >>> to kill this list it is that. If you don't have all the facts, you can't >>> join in the conversation. And this is truely one of the most anal discussion >>> lists out there in regards to talking about a music; an art form. No offence >>> meant. >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: kent williams >>> To: Odeluga, Ken >>> Cc: Matt Kane's Brain ; cheater cheater >>> ; Frank Glazer ; list 313 >>> <313@hyperreal.org> >>> Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 4:50 pm >>> Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of >>>> what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. >>>> >>> I think my original post that started this thread was very much on >>> topic and music-focused for what it's worth. I think it's exciting >>> to hear cool music from ZA that has obvious Detroit Techno influence. >>> Africans taking techno and house and making their own thing out of it >>> is a 600 year circle completed. >>> >>>> I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with >>>> twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. >>>> >>> Well the list will be here, as long as Brian Behlendorf keeps >>> Hyperreal.org alive. It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's >>> OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >>> >> >
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Mailing lists are an incredibly important part of my communication ritual, and since my job blocks facebook and all other communication websites, i just do my mailing lists on my iphone. Furthermore, as already stated above, it let's me talk to all you old people who actually have something interesting to say about detroit techno and the things that people who like detroit techno like (except for synthesizers, not many of you other than kent talk about synthesizers). On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:51 PM, kent williams wrote: > Honestly, I don't think that lack of detailed Otaku-style knowledge is > or should be a barrier to entering discussion. Everyone has their own > personal reactions and tastes, and as long as they are expressed > respectfully I think they'll be treated respectfully. > > And if not, welcome to the Internet. 313 is too low traffic to be of > much use to trolls at this point, though. > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM, wrote: >> >> It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's >> OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >> >> I have over 8000 emails in my Inbox, want to guess how much of a percentage >> the 313 list makes up of those? I rarely post on here because too often I am >> dwarfed by the monsters of "to no-end of details" posters, where I little >> me, enjoy Detroit techno, grew up going to parties when I think they were >> first ones that took place in the D, but I have no idea who composed Taxi >> Driver, how many seasons there were of the New Dance Show, and whose DAT >> deck Derrick May swiped a copy of a classic Detroit track to call it his >> own(Or one of those other guys). And when I do post I am normally stomped on >> for my total and offensive ignorous of the "purity" of the love of this >> music. But I watch on the sidelines anyways. I think if there were something >> to kill this list it is that. If you don't have all the facts, you can't >> join in the conversation. And this is truely one of the most anal discussion >> lists out there in regards to talking about a music; an art form. No offence >> meant. >> Steve >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kent williams >> To: Odeluga, Ken >> Cc: Matt Kane's Brain ; cheater cheater >> ; Frank Glazer ; list 313 >> <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 4:50 pm >> Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken >> wrote: >>> >>> I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of >>> what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. >>> >> I think my original post that started this thread was very much on >> topic and music-focused for what it's worth. I think it's exciting >> to hear cool music from ZA that has obvious Detroit Techno influence. >> Africans taking techno and house and making their own thing out of it >> is a 600 year circle completed. >> >>> I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with >>> twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. >>> >> Well the list will be here, as long as Brian Behlendorf keeps >> Hyperreal.org alive. It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's >> OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >> >
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Honestly, I don't think that lack of detailed Otaku-style knowledge is or should be a barrier to entering discussion. Everyone has their own personal reactions and tastes, and as long as they are expressed respectfully I think they'll be treated respectfully. And if not, welcome to the Internet. 313 is too low traffic to be of much use to trolls at this point, though. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM, wrote: > > It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's > OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. > > I have over 8000 emails in my Inbox, want to guess how much of a percentage > the 313 list makes up of those? I rarely post on here because too often I am > dwarfed by the monsters of "to no-end of details" posters, where I little > me, enjoy Detroit techno, grew up going to parties when I think they were > first ones that took place in the D, but I have no idea who composed Taxi > Driver, how many seasons there were of the New Dance Show, and whose DAT > deck Derrick May swiped a copy of a classic Detroit track to call it his > own(Or one of those other guys). And when I do post I am normally stomped on > for my total and offensive ignorous of the "purity" of the love of this > music. But I watch on the sidelines anyways. I think if there were something > to kill this list it is that. If you don't have all the facts, you can't > join in the conversation. And this is truely one of the most anal discussion > lists out there in regards to talking about a music; an art form. No offence > meant. > Steve > > > > -Original Message- > From: kent williams > To: Odeluga, Ken > Cc: Matt Kane's Brain ; cheater cheater > ; Frank Glazer ; list 313 > <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 4:50 pm > Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken > wrote: >> >> I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of >> what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. >> > I think my original post that started this thread was very much on > topic and music-focused for what it's worth. I think it's exciting > to hear cool music from ZA that has obvious Detroit Techno influence. > Africans taking techno and house and making their own thing out of it > is a 600 year circle completed. > >> I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with >> twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. >> > Well the list will be here, as long as Brian Behlendorf keeps > Hyperreal.org alive. It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's > OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >
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IAWTC. Also, Jeff Mills is 312 now. m50 At 2010.02.22 13:38, Fred Heutte wrote: Conclusion: rumors of the death of 313 are greatly exaggerated.
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I look at it a little differently. Activity on 313 has always been mostly proportional to the amount of activity in Detroit -- tracks being released, and of course since 2000 the annual cycle of the festival. Then there is a general but somewhat variable flow of comments on music-and-people-that-in-some-way-are-influenced-by-something- from-Detroit. For a very long time, nearly a decade, 313 activity has mostly been people who don't live in Detroit. Dluv and other places are where the locals hang. That's fine, I keep track of both and participate more here. 313 continues to be one of the more rewarding non-work lists I'm on. I also think that continuing as an email-only list has gradually resulted in a kind of age-graded participation. Those who came onto the net post-email, then post-phpBB, post-MyTribeFace and soon post-Twitter are in micro-generations that have no direct connection to the Detroit- techno-widely-conceived that has always been the core 313 focus. But I also don't see that this is unusual, nor that a lot can be done about it. And my sense is that 313 will continue for a good long while because there is still a critical mass of list subscribers, enough of the Detroit- related activity we've always talked about, and, aside from occasional waywardness, a not-bad signal-to-noise ratio overall. Conclusion: rumors of the death of 313 are greatly exaggerated. fh PS There's always been a real easy way to gear up a big surge of comments on 313, and that is to start a thread on J--- M. You first. - >I don't know about 'over' but perhaps slumbering. I know that I'm >starting way too many threads relative to other people on the list. > >Keep in mind that in the dark days when the 313 list started, people >could subscribe without even having a regular internet connection. I >think a fair percentage of people on the list were using terminals on >University campuses, and hadn't yet bought a home computer or laptop. > >There was no Facebook, Twitter, Message Boards, You Tube, Bit Torrent etc. > >Detroit Techno Artists still lived in Detroit, or sometimes Chicago. >They all had their original wives. I know, some of them still do. > >Perhaps e-mail lists are a vestigial feature of the Internet now. I >have to think there is a whole generation who are on the internet >constantly who don't even know what an e-mail list is, at this point. > When there is a critical mass of active contributors it's still >preferable to me for many reasons too boring to list. > >All you have to do to make it die is unsubscribe. Everyone makes that >choice for themselves. > >On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: >> Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' >> 'of,' ... >> >> I know I'm not helping much though ;-) >> >> Is 313 over? >> >> Ken >> >> >
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This is definitely grounds for changing your job. D. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 17:58, log...@cox.net wrote: > personally, I'm not as active because until recently I've been more focused > on hip hop than techno. last week I inadvertently took a step back to techno > when I recorded my track "Renew", something I didn't consciously set out to > do. I also can't sub to this list from the office as I could in the past. > With my new phone (LG Lotus) tied to my home email addy now, I can now keep > up with the list wherrever I happen to be. > > > -Original Message- > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:11:47 am > To: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > From: David Powers > Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando > > Personally, I feel an email list is for literate people who actually > use sentences and paragraphs and have substantial ideas and opinions. > One rarely sees that on forums, and twitter and facebook aren't worth > mentioning as mediums of actual communication. > > It seems that people are losing either the desire or the ability to > communicate at all using written language. If you ask me, even chimps > could probably learn to twitter... > > That being said, something's going on here and I wonder if it has more > to do with diverging musical tastes, or lack of interest in Detroit > music. I've noticed Andrew Duke and I posting on-topic messages about > actual music we like, including but not limited to 313 music, and > there was absolutely no response. > > Theories: > 1. People on the list aren't buying new music, or > 2. People are buying new music, but they don't want to discuss it, or > 3. Our tastes just don't coincide so we have too little common ground > for discussion, or > 4. People's need for communication is indeed fulfilled through other > outlets such as forums and facebook, etc. > > ~David > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken > wrote: >> Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :) >> >> I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of >> what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. >> >> I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with >> twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. >> >> Ken >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM >> To: Odeluga, Ken >> Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 >> Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: >>> Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' >>> 'of,' ... >>> >>> I know I'm not helping much though ;-) >>> >>> Is 313 over? >> >> Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the >> time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside >> the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. >> >> -- >> matt kane's brain >> http://hydrogenproject.com >> capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> >> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! >> http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com >> > > >
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personally, I'm not as active because until recently I've been more focused on hip hop than techno. last week I inadvertently took a step back to techno when I recorded my track "Renew", something I didn't consciously set out to do. I also can't sub to this list from the office as I could in the past. With my new phone (LG Lotus) tied to my home email addy now, I can now keep up with the list wherrever I happen to be. -Original Message- Date: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:11:47 am To: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> From: David Powers Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando Personally, I feel an email list is for literate people who actually use sentences and paragraphs and have substantial ideas and opinions. One rarely sees that on forums, and twitter and facebook aren't worth mentioning as mediums of actual communication. It seems that people are losing either the desire or the ability to communicate at all using written language. If you ask me, even chimps could probably learn to twitter... That being said, something's going on here and I wonder if it has more to do with diverging musical tastes, or lack of interest in Detroit music. I've noticed Andrew Duke and I posting on-topic messages about actual music we like, including but not limited to 313 music, and there was absolutely no response. Theories: 1. People on the list aren't buying new music, or 2. People are buying new music, but they don't want to discuss it, or 3. Our tastes just don't coincide so we have too little common ground for discussion, or 4. People's need for communication is indeed fulfilled through other outlets such as forums and facebook, etc. ~David On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :) > > I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of > what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. > > I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with > twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. > > Ken > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM > To: Odeluga, Ken > Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 > Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: >> Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' >> 'of,' ... >> >> I know I'm not helping much though ;-) >> >> Is 313 over? > > Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the > time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside > the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. > > -- > matt kane's brain > http://hydrogenproject.com > capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> > mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! > http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com >
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dude... the days of social networking may be numbered themselves. -Original Message- Date: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:45:19 am To: 'Matt Kane's Brain' Cc: cheater cheater ,kent williams ,Frank Glazer ,list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> From: "Odeluga, Ken" Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :) I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. Ken -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' > 'of,' ... > > I know I'm not helping much though ;-) > > Is 313 over? Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com
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*steps into discussion* well... I think... *pauses* ... *walks away* -Original Message- Date: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:41:15 am To: "Odeluga, Ken" Cc: cheater cheater ,kent williams ,Frank Glazer ,list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> From: Matt Kane's Brain Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' > 'of,' ... > > I know I'm not helping much though ;-) > > Is 313 over? Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com
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+1 (joke!) Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 February 2010 16:12 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando Personally, I feel an email list is for literate people who actually use sentences and paragraphs and have substantial ideas and opinions. One rarely sees that on forums, and twitter and facebook aren't worth mentioning as mediums of actual communication. It seems that people are losing either the desire or the ability to communicate at all using written language. If you ask me, even chimps could probably learn to twitter... That being said, something's going on here and I wonder if it has more to do with diverging musical tastes, or lack of interest in Detroit music. I've noticed Andrew Duke and I posting on-topic messages about actual music we like, including but not limited to 313 music, and there was absolutely no response. Theories: 1. People on the list aren't buying new music, or 2. People are buying new music, but they don't want to discuss it, or 3. Our tastes just don't coincide so we have too little common ground for discussion, or 4. People's need for communication is indeed fulfilled through other outlets such as forums and facebook, etc. ~David On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :) > > I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. > > I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. > > Ken > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM > To: Odeluga, Ken > Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 > Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: >> Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' 'of,' ... >> >> I know I'm not helping much though ;-) >> >> Is 313 over? > > Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. > > -- > matt kane's brain > http://hydrogenproject.com > capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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Personally, I feel an email list is for literate people who actually use sentences and paragraphs and have substantial ideas and opinions. One rarely sees that on forums, and twitter and facebook aren't worth mentioning as mediums of actual communication. It seems that people are losing either the desire or the ability to communicate at all using written language. If you ask me, even chimps could probably learn to twitter... That being said, something's going on here and I wonder if it has more to do with diverging musical tastes, or lack of interest in Detroit music. I've noticed Andrew Duke and I posting on-topic messages about actual music we like, including but not limited to 313 music, and there was absolutely no response. Theories: 1. People on the list aren't buying new music, or 2. People are buying new music, but they don't want to discuss it, or 3. Our tastes just don't coincide so we have too little common ground for discussion, or 4. People's need for communication is indeed fulfilled through other outlets such as forums and facebook, etc. ~David On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :) > > I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of > what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. > > I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with > twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. > > Ken > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM > To: Odeluga, Ken > Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 > Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: >> Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' >> 'of,' ... >> >> I know I'm not helping much though ;-) >> >> Is 313 over? > > Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the > time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside > the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. > > -- > matt kane's brain > http://hydrogenproject.com > capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> > mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! > http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com >
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Yes, email lists serve, er..'specialist' interests very well, but then so does the rest of the internet. Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] Sent: 22 February 2010 16:00 To: Robert Taylor; Matt Kane's Brain Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando Yeah me too, but those lists tend to be much more geekishly committed to a cause than we are here. For instance, I'm a member of the INFJ list (so who am I calling geekish, eh? I know, I know...). http://www.infj.org/ Even on that digest I get around 3 mails a day, not to mention the fact that the MIME type is actually legible on my mobile device too, ahem! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:49 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Matt Kane's Brain Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando Not sure about that - I know of other, thriving email lists Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] Sent: 22 February 2010 15:45 To: 'Matt Kane's Brain' Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :) I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. Ken -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' 'of,' ... > > I know I'm not helping much though ;-) > > Is 313 over? Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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Yeah me too, but those lists tend to be much more geekishly committed to a cause than we are here. For instance, I'm a member of the INFJ list (so who am I calling geekish, eh? I know, I know...). http://www.infj.org/ Even on that digest I get around 3 mails a day, not to mention the fact that the MIME type is actually legible on my mobile device too, ahem! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:49 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Matt Kane's Brain Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando Not sure about that - I know of other, thriving email lists Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] Sent: 22 February 2010 15:45 To: 'Matt Kane's Brain' Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :) I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. Ken -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' 'of,' ... > > I know I'm not helping much though ;-) > > Is 313 over? Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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> Perhaps e-mail lists are a vestigial feature of the Internet now. I > have to think there is a whole generation who are on the internet > constantly who don't even know what an e-mail list is, at this point. > When there is a critical mass of active contributors it's still > preferable to me for many reasons too boring to list. I like it this way. Twitter and facebook don't have the selectivity. Look at yourselves at 31 as the diehards, keepers of the flame, or a secret society, and suddenly it all makes sense in a surreal sort of way. > I think it's exciting > to hear cool music from ZA that has obvious Detroit Techno influence. Now that you put this twist on the topic, it becomes interesting. I thought he's located in one of the obvious suspect cities for techno production. D. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 16:50, kent williams wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken > wrote: >> >> I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of >> what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. >> > I think my original post that started this thread was very much on > topic and music-focused for what it's worth. I think it's exciting > to hear cool music from ZA that has obvious Detroit Techno influence. > Africans taking techno and house and making their own thing out of it > is a 600 year circle completed. > >> I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with >> twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. >> > Well the list will be here, as long as Brian Behlendorf keeps > Hyperreal.org alive. It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's > OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is. >
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Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :) I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. Ken -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' > 'of,' ... > > I know I'm not helping much though ;-) > > Is 313 over? Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > > I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of > what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. > I think my original post that started this thread was very much on topic and music-focused for what it's worth. I think it's exciting to hear cool music from ZA that has obvious Detroit Techno influence. Africans taking techno and house and making their own thing out of it is a 600 year circle completed. > I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with > twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. > Well the list will be here, as long as Brian Behlendorf keeps Hyperreal.org alive. It might be low traffic, permanently, but that's OK by me. I get enough traffic as it is.
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Not sure about that - I know of other, thriving email lists Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] Sent: 22 February 2010 15:45 To: 'Matt Kane's Brain' Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando Hey man, you won't find no po face on me either, so relax :) I'm just suggesting that the non-music trivia seems to make up the bulk of what gets discussed nowadays, that's all. I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. Ken -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:41 PM To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: cheater cheater; kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' 'of,' ... > > I know I'm not helping much though ;-) > > Is 313 over? Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:45, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > I hope it's not going to stay like this, but I fear what with > twitterfacebookbuzz etc, the days of the e-mail list might be numbered. They've been numbered since the accursed web forum came the preferred medium. It killed my beloved dirtylist first. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com
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I don't know about 'over' but perhaps slumbering. I know that I'm starting way too many threads relative to other people on the list. Keep in mind that in the dark days when the 313 list started, people could subscribe without even having a regular internet connection. I think a fair percentage of people on the list were using terminals on University campuses, and hadn't yet bought a home computer or laptop. There was no Facebook, Twitter, Message Boards, You Tube, Bit Torrent etc. Detroit Techno Artists still lived in Detroit, or sometimes Chicago. They all had their original wives. I know, some of them still do. Perhaps e-mail lists are a vestigial feature of the Internet now. I have to think there is a whole generation who are on the internet constantly who don't even know what an e-mail list is, at this point. When there is a critical mass of active contributors it's still preferable to me for many reasons too boring to list. All you have to do to make it die is unsubscribe. Everyone makes that choice for themselves. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' > 'of,' ... > > I know I'm not helping much though ;-) > > Is 313 over? > > Ken > >
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' > 'of,' ... > > I know I'm not helping much though ;-) > > Is 313 over? Sorry, I didn't realize I was killing 313 by not being 100% serious all the time. I thought it was the opposite actually, but I guess that's so outside the usual vibe here that I must be wrong. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com
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You gotta scrape real hard and then you break through to the next lode. D. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 16:32, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' > 'of,' ... > > I know I'm not helping much though ;-) > > Is 313 over? > > Ken > > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:22 PM > To: cheater cheater > Cc: kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 > Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:11, cheater cheater wrote: >> Every piece of music ever made rips off DJ Rolando. > > Does DJ Rolando have a time travel device, or is his music so influential > that it breaks causality all on its own? > > He is a mystic, I guess. > > -- > matt kane's brain > http://hydrogenproject.com > capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> > mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! > http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com >
RE: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando
Rearrange these words people 'the,' 'scraping,' 'bottom,' 'barrel,' 'the,' 'of,' ... I know I'm not helping much though ;-) Is 313 over? Ken -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:22 PM To: cheater cheater Cc: kent williams; Frank Glazer; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:11, cheater cheater wrote: > Every piece of music ever made rips off DJ Rolando. Does DJ Rolando have a time travel device, or is his music so influential that it breaks causality all on its own? He is a mystic, I guess. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com
Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:11, cheater cheater wrote: > Every piece of music ever made rips off DJ Rolando. Does DJ Rolando have a time travel device, or is his music so influential that it breaks causality all on its own? He is a mystic, I guess. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim -> mkbatwerk ; y! -> mkb218 ; gtalk -> mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com
Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando
Every piece of music ever made rips off DJ Rolando. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 06:40, kent williams wrote: > It's not Jaguar, but it sounds a lot like it, and when the drums kick > in, it sounds a lot like Rolando's programming. > > I'm not saying Black Coffee is copying, but the similarities hit me > over the head. YMMV... > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: >> yeah i don't get it either kent. it's NOT jaguar if that's what >> you're implying. ::squint:: >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:31 PM, kent williams >> wrote: >>> I've been digging this South African guy Black Coffee, but the track >>> '100 Zulu Warriors' cracked me up -- listen and you'll know why: >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/ya87zbu >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> peace, >> >> frank >> >> dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >> >
Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando
It's not Jaguar, but it sounds a lot like it, and when the drums kick in, it sounds a lot like Rolando's programming. I'm not saying Black Coffee is copying, but the similarities hit me over the head. YMMV... On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: > yeah i don't get it either kent. it's NOT jaguar if that's what > you're implying. ::squint:: > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:31 PM, kent williams > wrote: >> I've been digging this South African guy Black Coffee, but the track >> '100 Zulu Warriors' cracked me up -- listen and you'll know why: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/ya87zbu >> > > > > -- > peace, > > frank > > dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >
Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando
yeah i don't get it either kent. it's NOT jaguar if that's what you're implying. ::squint:: On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:31 PM, kent williams wrote: > I've been digging this South African guy Black Coffee, but the track > '100 Zulu Warriors' cracked me up -- listen and you'll know why: > > http://tinyurl.com/ya87zbu > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) The Long Arm Of DJ Rolando
I guess I'm ignorant but I don't get it. A Rolando track by another name? On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:31 AM, kent williams wrote: > I've been digging this South African guy Black Coffee, but the track > '100 Zulu Warriors' cracked me up -- listen and you'll know why: > > http://tinyurl.com/ya87zbu >
