RE: [313] Jaguar in UK charts
I'm really confused about this We're all so proud of the fact that UR is underground but then bitch that it doesn't make it further than 43 in the UK _POP_ charts? Please Fred I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned this yet but 'Jaguar' debuted at number 43 in the UK pop chart on sunday, much much lower than I personally expected. Anyone got any thoughts on why? Maybe the fact that the release date was put back a week had something to do with it? (It was originally scheduled for Oct 3rd, then went back to Oct 9th) Another possible reason might be that the promotion wasn't adequate. For example, it was handled in the UK by a company called Sainted PR, who, whilst a big music PR company, aren't exactly known for their techno activities - they usually do guitar bands and dance pop etc. My man Jonas Stone at Phuture Trax did the UR party a couple of years back, and does all the Tresor and Mills releases etc, so I (and he, actually) would have thought he should have been the obvious choice. Apparently Sainted got it as a result of the distribution deal 430 West/UR hooked up. Mind you, there have been plenty of Rolando interviews in the last crop of music mags her, so... Also, there was no real advertising to speak of. Azzido Da Bass 'Doom's Night' was also released last week and that has entered the chart at about number 6. The difference is that they have a massive promotional campaign behind them - Nottingham, where I live, is covered with flyposters, just as it was for the release of Zombie Nation's 'Kernkraft 400'. Anyone got any thoughts on this? Whatever, I guess it's unlikely ot go much higher. Records don't tend to climb the chart slowly these days like they used to. Instead they tend to enter, then slide downwards. Tom MF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] Jaguar in UK charts
I'll explain, underground has nothing to do with making it to the charts or not. Underground is spirit. Don't let this be the start of an discussion about how the define underground [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm really confused about this We're all so proud of the fact that UR is underground but then bitch that it doesn't make it further than 43 in the UK _POP_ charts? Please Fred
Re: [313] Jaguar in UK charts
Don't be confused. It's not *that* difficult to work out... I am not 'bitching' that Jaguar didn't make it further than 43, I'm stating a fact, offering my opinions as to why and asking for other peoples thoughts. It's nothing to do with whether or not UR is underground or not. Good records occasionally break into the charts. This is one of them and I for one am glad that UR are enjoying some real commercial success. In fact, the more success the better as that will provide them with more resources for the future. As plenty of others here have pointed out, being underground and being in the charts is not incompatible. Just as KJ says, Underground is spirit. But let's not get into that one. Tom FRED MCMURRY: I'm really confused about this We're all so proud of the fact that UR is underground but then bitch that it doesn't make it further than 43 in the UK _POP_ charts? I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned this yet but 'Jaguar' debuted at number 43 in the UK pop chart on sunday, much much lower than I personally expected. Anyone got any thoughts on why? Maybe the fact that the release date was put back a week had something to do with it? (It was originally scheduled for Oct 3rd, then went back to Oct 9th) Another possible reason might be that the promotion wasn't adequate. For example, it was handled in the UK by a company called Sainted PR, who, whilst a big music PR company, aren't exactly known for their techno activities - they usually do guitar bands and dance pop etc. My man Jonas Stone at Phuture Trax did the UR party a couple of years back, and does all the Tresor and Mills releases etc, so I (and he, actually) would have thought he should have been the obvious choice. Apparently Sainted got it as a result of the distribution deal 430 West/UR hooked up. Mind you, there have been plenty of Rolando interviews in the last crop of music mags her, so... Also, there was no real advertising to speak of. Azzido Da Bass 'Doom's Night' was also released last week and that has entered the chart at about number 6. The difference is that they have a massive promotional campaign behind them - Nottingham, where I live, is covered with flyposters, just as it was for the release of Zombie Nation's 'Kernkraft 400'. Anyone got any thoughts on this? Whatever, I guess it's unlikely ot go much higher. Records don't tend to climb the chart slowly these days like they used to. Instead they tend to enter, then slide downwards. Tom MF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Jaguar in UK charts
SO i do think it is possible for a track to reach the top of the charts but they do need airplay from some radio/tv station. I agree, it is possible (albeit very rare), and that's what I thought would happen with Jaguar. It's had considerable airplay on Radio 1 here - the UKs only national FM pop station - but it seems that wasn't enough.
RE: [313] Jaguar in UK charts
A lot of people (on this list and off) who are into this would have already bought their copy a long time ago when it came out first time. Supposing that's a few thousand around the UK, that's a big dent in any singles sales these days. Could be a reason. I, like most, haven't got the money to be buying two copies of records (friends have to lend me records for doubles fun!) On another note, anybody have details for Joe Clausell's appearance in London this weekend? Need a place I can order tickets from. cheers, Dan http://www.mp3.com/DanButler http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 October 2000 14:23 To: 313 mailing list Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar in UK charts SO i do think it is possible for a track to reach the top of the charts but they do need airplay from some radio/tv station. I agree, it is possible (albeit very rare), and that's what I thought would happen with Jaguar. It's had considerable airplay on Radio 1 here - the UKs only national FM pop station - but it seems that wasn't enough. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Jaguar in UK charts
Klaas-Jan wrote: SO i do think it is possible for a track to reach the top of the charts but they do need airplay from some radio/tv station. then Tom wrote: I agree, it is possible (albeit very rare), and that's what I thought would happen with Jaguar. It's had considerable airplay on Radio 1 here - the UKs only national FM pop station - but it seems that wasn't enough. i wouldn't want to be accused of selling my countrymen short, but perhaps Jaguar is simply not an *obvious* enough track for mainstream UK tastes. similarly with Sandwiches. both are great tracks, both had some support from Pete Tong et al, but at the end of the day that doesn't mean either will sell to your average British 'likes a few tunes' punter. i mean, can you really see people picking up a copy of Jaguar along with Alice Deejay or Darude's latest effort? mebbe Jaguar and Sandwiches are too raw, too funky, too real. we don't understand. does not compute. they're not, ugh, shiny enough. something else to consider is MTV's influence on the British music industry/economy. radio obviously plays a role in raising the profile of a record, but imho heavy rotation of the video would surely make a serious difference to Jaguar's sales and thus chart position. rob _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Jaguar in UK charts
For my money, the best thing about Jaguar is the cover. Looks like No Limit does Detroit. It's got those letters for Jaguar and everything. Too bad it doesn't come in a transparent red case with ads for more UR 12s in the booklet. Matt
