RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-21 Thread g

At 4:10 PM + 4/18/02, Jayson B. wrote:
does Dave have a problem with EVERYBODY?  Seriously, i know he has a 
rep for being straightforward and blunt, but he seems like he has a 
bit of a whiney streak too.


dave and richie made up this year at Timewarp after their little 
record throwing tiff last year...  in case anyone cares  ;)

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Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-19 Thread Gary_Girard

anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's
no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump
carl cox off the decks.

Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself.
If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to
you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters
is that they turn up on time  then proceed rock the venue with excellent
records and top-notch mixing.
Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the
man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes  plays brutal, hard, dark
techno.
If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules
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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-19 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
Hi,

I believe you guys are missing an important aspect here. We are talking
about PARTIES here. Parties are supposed to be fun and the DJ should just as
much be a part of the party as the crowd is.
DC clearly is not. He acts as if it's only a job he has to do and although
it IS for him, it should be more than just showing up in time and dropping
his records.
Sven's attitude is not about look at how cheery I am. It's about partying
together with the crowd and showing respect to the crowd by not only
dropping the best tunes in the best possible build up (and making them go
totally mad in the process), playing for as long as the clubowner lets him
and by being on the floor before his sets, checking the atmosphere out and
talking to people, even remembering when he has spoken to them before and
about what! 
We are still an underground scene, where the stars don't need to develop
arrogant attitudes and need bodyguards and all that nonsense.

I had the pleasure of visiting the Rex in Paris once where Sven was playing.
When I entered the club, he was standing at the bar and he approached ME
asking surprised what I was doing here since I was from Holland where I'd
spoken with him at a party months before. He knew that!! He immediately
introduced me to Terence Fixmer who was there too. Later he played a great
set in that strange DJ booth with the windows open. It was so funny to see
the three lines thick of trainspotters standing there the whole time.  
A couple of weeks later I saw a documentary on Dutch TV about Dave Clarke.
There he was also playing at the Rex. There you saw him sitting backstage
the whole time before his set, by himself, looking as if he was waiting for
a dentist appointment. When he came on he had no idea what the DJ before him
had been doing, then the windows went shut Now there's a guy who must
really love his job.
A job that 1000's of others would kill for.

On the subject of the Rex, if there's one DJ who constantly switches places
with Sven on my most favourite list, it's Laurent Garnier...

Joost

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anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's
no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump
carl cox off the decks.

Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself.
If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to
you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters
is that they turn up on time  then proceed rock the venue with excellent
records and top-notch mixing.
Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the
man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes  plays brutal, hard, dark
techno.
If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules
- and don't forget your glowstick!



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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-19 Thread Ian Cheshire
Agreed!

Lets party on!

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Hi,

I believe you guys are missing an important aspect here. We are talking
about PARTIES here. Parties are supposed to be fun and the DJ should just as
much be a part of the party as the crowd is.
DC clearly is not. He acts as if it's only a job he has to do and although
it IS for him, it should be more than just showing up in time and dropping
his records.
Sven's attitude is not about look at how cheery I am. It's about partying
together with the crowd and showing respect to the crowd by not only
dropping the best tunes in the best possible build up (and making them go
totally mad in the process), playing for as long as the clubowner lets him
and by being on the floor before his sets, checking the atmosphere out and
talking to people, even remembering when he has spoken to them before and
about what! 
We are still an underground scene, where the stars don't need to develop
arrogant attitudes and need bodyguards and all that nonsense.

I had the pleasure of visiting the Rex in Paris once where Sven was playing.
When I entered the club, he was standing at the bar and he approached ME
asking surprised what I was doing here since I was from Holland where I'd
spoken with him at a party months before. He knew that!! He immediately
introduced me to Terence Fixmer who was there too. Later he played a great
set in that strange DJ booth with the windows open. It was so funny to see
the three lines thick of trainspotters standing there the whole time.  
A couple of weeks later I saw a documentary on Dutch TV about Dave Clarke.
There he was also playing at the Rex. There you saw him sitting backstage
the whole time before his set, by himself, looking as if he was waiting for
a dentist appointment. When he came on he had no idea what the DJ before him
had been doing, then the windows went shut Now there's a guy who must
really love his job.
A job that 1000's of others would kill for.

On the subject of the Rex, if there's one DJ who constantly switches places
with Sven on my most favourite list, it's Laurent Garnier...

Joost

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anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's
no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump
carl cox off the decks.

Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself.
If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to
you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters
is that they turn up on time  then proceed rock the venue with excellent
records and top-notch mixing.
Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the
man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes  plays brutal, hard, dark
techno.
If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules
- and don't forget your glowstick!



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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-19 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
Agree..i remember a fwe years back when Sven was playing
Mazzo in Asmterdam on sundaynight. the place was pretty packed
and he played form 00.00 till 07.00 in the morning. When i enterd
Mazzo and went to bar for a beer a found myself standing next a
rather little person (and i am not so tall myself:) with a funny
haircut, turned out it was mr. Väth himself. He just stood at the
bar orderd a beer and we had a chat about the night. We talked about
how he liked playing clubs like mazzo, coming early to a club to
catch some of the atmosphere before playing and he bought me beer.
Then he went of to spin few tunes..bought him a beer back later on..
Had a very good night..and Sven couldn´t do wrong with me anymore:)

Martijn




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Hi,

I believe you guys are missing an important aspect here. We are talking
about PARTIES here. Parties are supposed to be fun and the DJ should just as
much be a part of the party as the crowd is.
DC clearly is not. He acts as if it's only a job he has to do and although
it IS for him, it should be more than just showing up in time and dropping
his records.
Sven's attitude is not about look at how cheery I am. It's about partying
together with the crowd and showing respect to the crowd by not only
dropping the best tunes in the best possible build up (and making them go
totally mad in the process), playing for as long as the clubowner lets him
and by being on the floor before his sets, checking the atmosphere out and
talking to people, even remembering when he has spoken to them before and
about what!
We are still an underground scene, where the stars don't need to develop
arrogant attitudes and need bodyguards and all that nonsense.

I had the pleasure of visiting the Rex in Paris once where Sven was playing.
When I entered the club, he was standing at the bar and he approached ME
asking surprised what I was doing here since I was from Holland where I'd
spoken with him at a party months before. He knew that!! He immediately
introduced me to Terence Fixmer who was there too. Later he played a great
set in that strange DJ booth with the windows open. It was so funny to see
the three lines thick of trainspotters standing there the whole time.
A couple of weeks later I saw a documentary on Dutch TV about Dave Clarke.
There he was also playing at the Rex. There you saw him sitting backstage
the whole time before his set, by himself, looking as if he was waiting for
a dentist appointment. When he came on he had no idea what the DJ before him
had been doing, then the windows went shut Now there's a guy who must
really love his job.
A job that 1000's of others would kill for.

On the subject of the Rex, if there's one DJ who constantly switches places
with Sven on my most favourite list, it's Laurent Garnier...

Joost

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anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's
no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump
carl cox off the decks.

Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself.
If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to
you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters
is that they turn up on time  then proceed rock the venue with excellent
records and top-notch mixing.
Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the
man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes  plays brutal, hard, dark
techno.
If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules
- and don't forget your glowstick!



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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-19 Thread Gary_Girard

I understand your point, and I'll admit that it is nice to see a DJ
enjoying the party vibe.
My point is that it isn't a good reason not to go and hear a DJ. It's not
the most important thing.
Other than the bad attitude D.C is an excellent DJ.
This has got me thinking about other DJs that don't show much emotion
whilst playing. Surely there are a few Detroit DJs that have been brought
up on the mean streets and aren't all smiley and jumpin around when on the
decks? I don't remember Rolando being particularly jolly!


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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-19 Thread FC3 Richards
I would go see D-Wynn...I saw him tag team with Kevin Saunderson @ Motor and
it was a smiling dancing joker of a good time...

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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-19 Thread Giles Dickerson
Anyone ever hear the D-Wynn falling down in the DJ booth story?

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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-19 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
and that duck kind of dance that he does is the best!

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I would go see D-Wynn...I saw him tag team with Kevin Saunderson @ Motor and
it was a smiling dancing joker of a good time...

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Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-19 Thread yussel
you don't have to be happy-smiley-nice

nor do you have to be dour-grumpy-ass

what you do have to be is courtious and kind to everybody. and dave clarke
appears to be neither. i must be his momma's fault.

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 anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's
 no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump
 carl cox off the decks.

 Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself.
 If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to
 you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters
 is that they turn up on time  then proceed rock the venue with excellent
 records and top-notch mixing.
 Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the
 man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes  plays brutal, hard, dark
 techno.
 If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules
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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-18 Thread Ian Cheshire
ahh you see he is the man!

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Last year at the dutch Dance Valley festival he fell from this golf car and
broke his arm.  He had to play the final slot at the Techno Tent, which was
hosted by Cocoon.

Richie Hawtin was playing before him, and was still around when Vath
started.
Hawtin would put one of Vath's records on the deck, put the needle on it,
and he
then would help Vath putting the headphone on his head. Vath also had
someone to
flip through his records for him. Very funny to see, but he still managed to
rock the place!

W

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he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial
resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse
nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many
years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere
when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?).
certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list.


paul






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  Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the
  guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he
  spends more time waving his hands than mixing records.

 I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam
 So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i
 must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me
 of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for
 six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set
 i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up
 from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!!
 Got the whole set at home for those interessted.

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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-18 Thread Grammenos, Peter

There was lots of lov-ie dubby-iness going on between what appeared to be
vath and hawtin.. but oh, sitting there in the background on the stage, was
richie's g-friend. She was the one making him smile;) she helped him finish
off his set, handed him a record or two.

but yes vath and hawtin were smiling at one another the entire night! i had
been looking forward to seeing vath for about 2-3 months .. but the records
he was playing were like candy compared to what hawtin was dropping. i
missed his set at vinyl on saturday though, i heard he dropped some pretty
dope stuff there.

-pete 

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ahh you see he is the man!

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Last year at the dutch Dance Valley festival he fell from this golf car and
broke his arm.  He had to play the final slot at the Techno Tent, which was
hosted by Cocoon.

Richie Hawtin was playing before him, and was still around when Vath
started.
Hawtin would put one of Vath's records on the deck, put the needle on it,
and he
then would help Vath putting the headphone on his head. Vath also had
someone to
flip through his records for him. Very funny to see, but he still managed to
rock the place!

W

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he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial
resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse
nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many
years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere
when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?).
certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list.


paul






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  Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the
  guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he
  spends more time waving his hands than mixing records.

 I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam
 So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i
 must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me
 of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for
 six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set
 i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up
 from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!!
 Got the whole set at home for those interessted.

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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-18 Thread Ian Cheshire
love is in the air!

And isn't great when yo see DJ's getting along and having a laugh,
 all DJ's should have this mentallity, not likem Dave CLarke and Carl Cox
who I saw at the 
End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than he
should of..

fair enuff every DJ likes one more tunes but Mr Clarke got a bot funny and
knocked
Carl while he got to the decks, to the punters it looked really bad.

But hey we all get in moods and DJ's are the same, so hey its nice too see
when they 
are having fun together..

a martch made in heaven Sven  Richie ( and his woman) on the same
nite...loved up all the time!

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There was lots of lov-ie dubby-iness going on between what appeared to be
vath and hawtin.. but oh, sitting there in the background on the stage, was
richie's g-friend. She was the one making him smile;) she helped him finish
off his set, handed him a record or two.

but yes vath and hawtin were smiling at one another the entire night! i had
been looking forward to seeing vath for about 2-3 months .. but the records
he was playing were like candy compared to what hawtin was dropping. i
missed his set at vinyl on saturday though, i heard he dropped some pretty
dope stuff there.

-pete 

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ahh you see he is the man!

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Last year at the dutch Dance Valley festival he fell from this golf car and
broke his arm.  He had to play the final slot at the Techno Tent, which was
hosted by Cocoon.

Richie Hawtin was playing before him, and was still around when Vath
started.
Hawtin would put one of Vath's records on the deck, put the needle on it,
and he
then would help Vath putting the headphone on his head. Vath also had
someone to
flip through his records for him. Very funny to see, but he still managed to
rock the place!

W

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he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial
resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse
nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many
years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere
when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?).
certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list.


paul






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  Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the
  guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he
  spends more time waving his hands than mixing records.

 I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam
 So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i
 must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me
 of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for
 six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set
 i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up
 from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!!
 Got the whole set at home for those interessted.

 Okay , back to obscure techno business now..

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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-18 Thread Jayson B.




who I saw at the
End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than 
he

should of..




does Dave have a problem with EVERYBODY?  Seriously, i know he has a rep for 
being straightforward and blunt, but he seems like he has a bit of a whiney 
streak too.


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Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-18 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
Carl Cox is quite known for his friendly behaviour
towards punters and fellow dj´s/promotors..

Who can resist the big smile of big, bad, bold Coxy?

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 who I saw at the
 End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than
 he
 should of..



 does Dave have a problem with EVERYBODY?  Seriously, i know he has a rep
for
 being straightforward and blunt, but he seems like he has a bit of a
whiney
 streak too.

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RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-18 Thread Ian Cheshire
not my wife, who proudly had her breast signed by him!!

What a lucky girl!

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Carl Cox is quite known for his friendly behaviour
towards punters and fellow dj´s/promotors..

Who can resist the big smile of big, bad, bold Coxy?

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 who I saw at the
 End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than
 he
 should of..



 does Dave have a problem with EVERYBODY?  Seriously, i know he has a rep
for
 being straightforward and blunt, but he seems like he has a bit of a
whiney
 streak too.

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Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven vs BONES

2002-04-18 Thread Jake
One time frankie bones fell off the stage at a party in la and broke his
front tooth.. He still played even though blood was coming out of his
mouth.. What dedication :)

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 ahh you see he is the man!
 
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 Last year at the dutch Dance Valley festival he fell from this golf car and
 broke his arm.  He had to play the final slot at the Techno Tent, which was
 hosted by Cocoon.
 
 Richie Hawtin was playing before him, and was still around when Vath
 started.
 Hawtin would put one of Vath's records on the deck, put the needle on it,
 and he
 then would help Vath putting the headphone on his head. Vath also had
 someone to
 flip through his records for him. Very funny to see, but he still managed to
 rock the place!
 
 W
 
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 he's a legend round here and been a kind of unofficial
 resident at the orbit for 10 years with omen parties, harthouse
 nights, birthday parties and 1 or 2 orbit parties over at the omen many
 years back. the ultimate party dj for me it's always a great atmosphere
 when he plays and so what if he isn't the worlds best mixer (juan atkins?).
 certainly deserves alot more respect than he gets on biased list.
 
 
 paul
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
 
 
 
 Sven's a weird one. He definately has the capacity for trance (duh- the
 guy ran Harthouse). And I've been told that when he plays in Europe, he
 spends more time waving his hands than mixing records.
 
 I will see and hear him this coming friday in Amsterdam
 So i will let you know about the waving in the air:-) but i
 must say the times that i have heard him spin he blew me
 of my feet with some amazing techno...heard him spin for
 six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set
 i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up
 from start to finish...20.000 people went completly nuts!!
 Got the whole set at home for those interessted.
 
 Okay , back to obscure techno business now..
 
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Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven

2002-04-18 Thread Nicole Slavin
but, as you said, he does play a mean electro set. i've been to a couple of
nights that if it weren't for him, would have been completely boring. i
think there was a lost, at the scala maybe, where he's set was the only
interesting and dancable stuff played. i'm going to get done for that as i
can't remember who the other headliner was, just that it was someone well
popular?
anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's
no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump
carl cox off the decks.
i can also think of a lot of great dj's who have openly criticised drug
taking.
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 And isn't great when yo see DJ's getting along and having a laugh,
  all DJ's should have this mentallity, not likem Dave CLarke and Carl Cox
 who I saw at the
 End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than
he
 should of..

 fair enuff every DJ likes one more tunes but Mr Clarke got a bot funny
and
 knocked
 Carl while he got to the decks, to the punters it looked really bad.

yeah that's another reason I hate Dark Cave - he's such a moody fellah.  I
too have seen him throwing his attitude (on many occasions) -  and without
fail 2 minutes before the end of his set on goes the leather jacket and to
the dot 2 minutes later off comes the needle and he's on his way.

Back in the early days he was very outspoken about drugs, how bad they are
(which is a matter of opinion) and about kids necking 'e's.  He had some
very disrespectful comments to make.  Seems a bit strange to me, seeing as
drugs play a major part on the dance scene and its mainly down to these
drugged kids that he's a millionaire today.


 love is in the air!

Sorry - not between me and CD ..

(and just to keep my m8 gary quiet ... ) - yeah he has played some good
sets
in his time.  I can think of a few place I heard him and begrudgingly had
to
admit his was the best set of the night... The electro set he played at
Cargo on World DJ Day was great and I thoroughly enjoyed hearing the same
sort of set from him again at Atomic Jam a few days later (or was it b4
. that's the trouble with drugs!)


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