RE: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
I look at it like this: I'm currently running an extra old IBM Thinkpad 570. It's a P2-300MHz machine with 192MB RAM in it. I run XP Pro on it with FL Studio 7 and Cubase VST 5.1. I don't use any other plugins other than what shipped with either app save EVP73 and ESXP24. In conjunction with the Korg nanoKEY, it's a good idea pad for when I'm at work. I also use it on the bus to watch flicks and surf the web via wireless card. I'm looking at replacing it with an Acer Aspire ONE 10.1 netbook (1GB RAM, XP Home, 160GB HD) . With this, I'll be able to run a few decent VST's and some better fx and won't have to resize all of my videos in order for them to run. I've already heard some positive stuff about the Aspire ONE with regard to running audio apps. -Original Message- From: Arturo Lopez [mailto:arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:01 AM To: Three-One-Three Subject: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications? Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though. Thoughts? -Arturo
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
+1 I remember recording entire tracks on a 128mb computer, and I think it worked just fine. I didn't have quadruple phasing reverb algorithms, but I'm not sure I ever did, or ever will, need those. On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:55 PM, George Jones IV - logic7log...@cox.net wrote: I look at it like this: I'm currently running an extra old IBM Thinkpad 570. It's a P2-300MHz machine with 192MB RAM in it. I run XP Pro on it with FL Studio 7 and Cubase VST 5.1. I don't use any other plugins other than what shipped with either app save EVP73 and ESXP24. In conjunction with the Korg nanoKEY, it's a good idea pad for when I'm at work. I also use it on the bus to watch flicks and surf the web via wireless card. I'm looking at replacing it with an Acer Aspire ONE 10.1 netbook (1GB RAM, XP Home, 160GB HD) . With this, I'll be able to run a few decent VST's and some better fx and won't have to resize all of my videos in order for them to run. I've already heard some positive stuff about the Aspire ONE with regard to running audio apps. -Original Message- From: Arturo Lopez [mailto:arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:01 AM To: Three-One-Three Subject: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications? Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though. Thoughts? -Arturo -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
Thanks for all the suggestions! Looks like some of you have been bogged down by slower machines, good to know. It does seem like a 'regular' laptop is probably a better choice, at least for HD space and processing power, and not much additional cost. I'm a PC guy (won't get into the mac debate here but I'm not a fan). Windows 7 is right around the corner so that might be the right time for me to pick one up.anyway I appreciate all the comments. -Art
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
[Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com] Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. I have the Samsung NC10 Special Edition with 2GB of RAM and I totally love it. I do most of my music in Renoise (http://www.renoise.com/) and it works great on the netbook-- Renoise even has a special netbook mode that hides parts of the GUI you're not currently using so that it works much better on the small display. That said, I don't use the netbook as my primary compisition computer... I mostly just carry it around with me as a sort of musical sketchbook. It's great because it's super small and super light, so I can carry it wherever I go and the battery lasts for about 9 hours, so I have no trouble using it on trips or whatever. I don't even usually bring the charger with when I carry it to work. It's great to be able to work on sketches of tracks and then bring them back to my real studio and flesh them out with better synths, effects, etc... There's no way I'd want to lug my main laptop around with me all the time (I hate that I even have to bring it to gigs), so this is a perfect solution for when you want to work on tracks anywhere other than your studio. -- :: atomly :: [ ato...@atomly.com : www.atomly.com : http://blog.atomly.com/ ... [ atomiq records : new york city : +1.917.442.9450 ... [ e-mail atomly-news-subscr...@atomly.com for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
i use my lenovo s10 with max/msp and audiomulch. obvious limitations apply. best, Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks andrewd...@cognitionaudioworks.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Arturo Lopezarturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though. I bought my last laptop literally the day after it arrived in store and I got the best one I could find at the time, plus souped it up with extra RAM/etc. I managed to get 6 years out of it until, in a blink of an eye, my 2 year old daughter decided to imitate Daddy and use it (read as bang the keyboard with her fists and knocked it on the hardwood floor). The place I bought it from, who've always been very good to me, told me it would cost more to replace the hard drive and keyboard than to buy a new laptop, so (to finally get to the point) I decided that if my next laptop might also bite the dust in such a way, I would get a netbook. I was very close to buying one, but after doing some research I found that most said it was great for email/internet/simple non-CPU-hogging tasks (thus the netbook name) and not at all good for CPU-intensive stuff like audio, that is unless you were willing to have a lot of patience. While you might be able to get by with patience in the studio, I figure using it for live situations like live PAs and DJing it just won't cut the mustard and those listening won't care that it is on account of yer using a netbook. When I have some money (not in the near future with a 2.25 year old and a 1 week old in the house!), I will buy a new portable rig, but it will be a small *laptop*. Hope this helps with your decision, Arturo. Let us know what you end up buying and how it works for you. Take care. Andrew
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
Not tried one yet. But I have to think that a good comparison would be my laptop which is a 1.7ghz Pentium M, which gets completely bogged down by anything other than the simplest of Ableton Live 8 sets. And a netbook with enough storage and memory to be actually useful is more than $250 -- I'd think about getting a conventional laptop for a little bit more. If you're worried about portability, get one of the smaller models. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Arturo Lopezarturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though. Thoughts? -Arturo
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
The Intel Atom processor is very low powered (in all meanings of the word). Anecdotally for a 1.3GHz Atom read 800 MHz Pentium 3. You might get better mileage for music from a Via Nano. I looked into this a while back and decided against it. robin... On 23 Jun 2009, at 17:10, kent williams wrote: Not tried one yet. But I have to think that a good comparison would be my laptop which is a 1.7ghz Pentium M, which gets completely bogged down by anything other than the simplest of Ableton Live 8 sets. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Arturo Lopezarturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though.
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
Hi Kevin, Not sure if that was to the list too but I've also tried Live 6 on a eee pc 1000 with 1GB memory and an HD. It crawled with 3 tracks but then it was running my normal dj set with a couple of Live effects. I was also using the internal sound (offloading to a sound card should help here). I like very small DJ rigs too so I know where you're coming from. robin... On 23 Jun 2009, at 17:36, Kevin Kennedy wrote: I have successfully ran ableton live 6 on a netbook-a lenovo ideapad s10 with max memory. You will have problems, unless you sample all of your vstis and such. I wanted to have the world's smallest laptop DJ rig, and I found that using traktor was not stable enough to do so. if you could get the original version of final scratch (the linux version maybe) running on it, you could have something...since its power requirements were pretty low. for mobile recording though, getting a good soundcard and something like audacity or Wavelab worked out pretty well. I have used this to record some of my live performances, other collabs, etc. IMHO, it is always worth a try, just be prepared for some hiccups and some things to be too powerful to run on your little netbook.
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
Remute is playing live off his MSI Wind netbook so it's gotta work somehow. Can ask him for specs, if it's of any interest. Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though. Thoughts? -Arturo
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Arturo Lopezarturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though. I bought my last laptop literally the day after it arrived in store and I got the best one I could find at the time, plus souped it up with extra RAM/etc. I managed to get 6 years out of it until, in a blink of an eye, my 2 year old daughter decided to imitate Daddy and use it (read as bang the keyboard with her fists and knocked it on the hardwood floor). The place I bought it from, who've always been very good to me, told me it would cost more to replace the hard drive and keyboard than to buy a new laptop, so (to finally get to the point) I decided that if my next laptop might also bite the dust in such a way, I would get a netbook. I was very close to buying one, but after doing some research I found that most said it was great for email/internet/simple non-CPU-hogging tasks (thus the netbook name) and not at all good for CPU-intensive stuff like audio, that is unless you were willing to have a lot of patience. While you might be able to get by with patience in the studio, I figure using it for live situations like live PAs and DJing it just won't cut the mustard and those listening won't care that it is on account of yer using a netbook. When I have some money (not in the near future with a 2.25 year old and a 1 week old in the house!), I will buy a new portable rig, but it will be a small *laptop*. Hope this helps with your decision, Arturo. Let us know what you end up buying and how it works for you. Take care. Andrew
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
One thing to keep in mind the original netbooks run linux, not microsoft windows. I use abelton live 3 and renoise for my music production. This set up is very easy on the cpu, I can make some interesting mixes on my g3 400mhz powerbook. Whenever I need to use midi/VSTi I render the tracks in renoise and do the final mix in live 3. Renoise will work with linux too if you have a netbook without a x86 processor--that would be core! -ds - Original Message - From: Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications? Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though. Thoughts? -Arturo
Re: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications?
Get a used MacBook 12 or MacBook 13. Dirt cheap on craigslist. On Tuesday, June 23, 2009, david smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: One thing to keep in mind the original netbooks run linux, not microsoft windows. I use abelton live 3 and renoise for my music production. This set up is very easy on the cpu, I can make some interesting mixes on my g3 400mhz powerbook. Whenever I need to use midi/VSTi I render the tracks in renoise and do the final mix in live 3. Renoise will work with linux too if you have a netbook without a x86 processor--that would be core! -ds - Original Message - From: Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: (313) Netbooks; worth it for music applications? Was wondering if anyone out there had any experience running any music applications on a netbook? Seems like it might be a nice/cheap solution for running ableton/serato/whatever and quite a bit more portable than a larger laptop. Concerned a bit weather a $250 netbook has a beefy enough processor to handle these apps, but then again people were running those apps on slower laptops 3 or 4 years ago. Hmm. I'd imagine you'd have to buy an external soundcard though. Thoughts? -Arturo -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
