RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Williams, Graham
But every time I've seen a UR DJ, I've been completely demolished.

The exception to this rule is DJ3000, I saw him a few years again, to
label him a UR Assault DJ was a joke, he was rubbish, absolute rubbish!
Track Selection, Mixing was terrible. When labelled as a UR Assault DJ a
certain standard is expected. Any of the other UR DJ have always put on
a great show!

G

-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 November 2008 14:40
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

The UR DJs do not get booked enough in the US.  I know that there are
more than a few people who haven't really been feeling the UR output
for the past few years.  I'm not one of them, but I can see how some
people might not be getting it.  But every time I've seen a UR DJ,
I've been completely demolished.   Buzz Goree is the guy I've seen
most, and every time I've been schooled, and had a great time besides.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:39 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SANTIAGO SALAZAR: UndergroundResistance|Los Hermanos [ Detroit|LA ]
 FOREST GREEN: CuteFang|FnF|Faktion|SisterSF|DEF [ SF ]
 OROTORO: FnF|Faktion [ SF ] vs DISCONNECT: DEF|Faktion [ SF ]
 live webcast via Radio Integrated!

 FOREST GREEN: Standard bearer for techno in San Francisco through even
its
 most silent days, Forest remains one of the busiest DJs in this city
by the
 bay, yet always manages to make each set a fresh and unique
experience.
 Recently returning to focus on production, she's still known for her
ability
 to select and mix tracks that get every audience dancing.


RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Taylor
Never been impressed with any of them 


Rob Taylor
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-Original Message-
From: Williams, Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 November 2008 10:08
To: kent williams; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

But every time I've seen a UR DJ, I've been completely demolished.

The exception to this rule is DJ3000, I saw him a few years again, to
label him a UR Assault DJ was a joke, he was rubbish, absolute rubbish!
Track Selection, Mixing was terrible. When labelled as a UR Assault DJ a
certain standard is expected. Any of the other UR DJ have always put on
a great show!

G

-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 November 2008 14:40
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

The UR DJs do not get booked enough in the US.  I know that there are
more than a few people who haven't really been feeling the UR output for
the past few years.  I'm not one of them, but I can see how some people
might not be getting it.  But every time I've seen a UR DJ,
I've been completely demolished.   Buzz Goree is the guy I've seen
most, and every time I've been schooled, and had a great time besides.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:39 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SANTIAGO SALAZAR: UndergroundResistance|Los Hermanos [ Detroit|LA ] 
 FOREST GREEN: CuteFang|FnF|Faktion|SisterSF|DEF [ SF ]
 OROTORO: FnF|Faktion [ SF ] vs DISCONNECT: DEF|Faktion [ SF ] live 
 webcast via Radio Integrated!

 FOREST GREEN: Standard bearer for techno in San Francisco through even
its
 most silent days, Forest remains one of the busiest DJs in this city
by the
 bay, yet always manages to make each set a fresh and unique
experience.
 Recently returning to focus on production, she's still known for her
ability
 to select and mix tracks that get every audience dancing.
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RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mills included?


 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 November 2008 13:07
 
 Never been impressed with any of them
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Williams, Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 November 2008 10:08
 
 But every time I've seen a UR DJ, I've been completely demolished.
 
 The exception to this rule is DJ3000, I saw him a few years again, to
 label him a UR Assault DJ was a joke



Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread kent williams
If this is the case, I want to know why. Who have you seen, how did
they disappoint you?

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Never been impressed with any of them



Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Martin Dust

Is that like arguing about a glass half full/empty of water?

m

On 26 Nov 2008, at 14:55, kent williams wrote:


If this is the case, I want to know why. Who have you seen, how did
they disappoint you?

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

Never been impressed with any of them







Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread kent williams
No, it was a sincere request for information and opinion.  I
suppressed my first impulse, which was to deconstruct why Robert
bothered to post something so pithy yet uninformative.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is that like arguing about a glass half full/empty of water?

 m

 On 26 Nov 2008, at 14:55, kent williams wrote:

 If this is the case, I want to know why. Who have you seen, how did
 they disappoint you?

 On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Never been impressed with any of them






RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Taylor
Buzz Goree, DJ3000, Rolando, even Suburban Knight have all disappointed
in the past, not because they are bad DJs but because they seem to fall
prey to the notion that when in Europe one must either bang it out or
play an indistinct Detroit Stars on 45 set - I guess they can't win cos
there are plenty of people who do want to hear that sort of thing. Not
me though.

Rob Taylor
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-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 November 2008 14:55
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Williams, Graham; list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

If this is the case, I want to know why. Who have you seen, how did they
disappoint you?

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Never been impressed with any of them

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Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread kent williams
My sympathies.  My experience has been completely the opposite, but
I've always seen them in Iowa City or Detroit or Chicago.  In those
places they definitely have something different to prove.

Buzz playing in Iowa City (fun fact: his gf Kelleigh went to the
University of Iowa and was a DJ here before moving to Detroit) was
fantastic.  He started out playing some stonking, dirty, house tracks,
and over the course of two hours wound it up to a virtuoso juggling of
UR Assault tracks.  I have a board recording of that set somewhere

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Buzz Goree, DJ3000, Rolando, even Suburban Knight have all disappointed
 in the past, not because they are bad DJs but because they seem to fall
 prey to the notion that when in Europe one must either bang it out or
 play an indistinct Detroit Stars on 45 set - I guess they can't win cos
 there are plenty of people who do want to hear that sort of thing. Not
 me though.



RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Taylor
I'd love to hear one of them playing a filthy electro set in the vein of
Rolando's Vibrations mix CD
Rob Taylor
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-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 November 2008 15:16
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

My sympathies.  My experience has been completely the opposite, but I've
always seen them in Iowa City or Detroit or Chicago.  In those places
they definitely have something different to prove.

Buzz playing in Iowa City (fun fact: his gf Kelleigh went to the
University of Iowa and was a DJ here before moving to Detroit) was
fantastic.  He started out playing some stonking, dirty, house tracks,
and over the course of two hours wound it up to a virtuoso juggling of
UR Assault tracks.  I have a board recording of that set somewhere

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Buzz Goree, DJ3000, Rolando, even Suburban Knight have all 
 disappointed in the past, not because they are bad DJs but because 
 they seem to fall prey to the notion that when in Europe one must 
 either bang it out or play an indistinct Detroit Stars on 45 set - I 
 guess they can't win cos there are plenty of people who do want to 
 hear that sort of thing. Not me though.

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Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread anthony
Jeff Mills is responsable for the all time most amazing set ive ever seen.
I saw him live in detroit at a club located by comerica park. He played
all night mixing Taana Gardner to moodymann to Rob Hood to james Brown and
it was all seamless and brilliant. My friend has an 1 1/2 hr of the 4
hours he played on a cassette he recorded. ANd yes, people were jittin.
Buzz is good and i really enjoy 3000.
Maybe 3000 just had an off-night. Happens to the best of us.




On Wed, November 26, 2008 10:16 am, kent williams wrote:
 My sympathies.  My experience has been completely the opposite, but
 I've always seen them in Iowa City or Detroit or Chicago.  In those
 places they definitely have something different to prove.

 Buzz playing in Iowa City (fun fact: his gf Kelleigh went to the
 University of Iowa and was a DJ here before moving to Detroit) was
 fantastic.  He started out playing some stonking, dirty, house tracks,
 and over the course of two hours wound it up to a virtuoso juggling of
 UR Assault tracks.  I have a board recording of that set somewhere

 On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Buzz Goree, DJ3000, Rolando, even Suburban Knight have all disappointed
 in the past, not because they are bad DJs but because they seem to fall
 prey to the notion that when in Europe one must either bang it out or
 play an indistinct Detroit Stars on 45 set - I guess they can't win cos
 there are plenty of people who do want to hear that sort of thing. Not
 me though.







RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread anthony
Rolondo had a house mix called sweat that ive been in love with for a
while. Ill check out vibrations.
A


On Wed, November 26, 2008 10:23 am, Robert Taylor wrote:
 I'd love to hear one of them playing a filthy electro set in the vein of
 Rolando's Vibrations mix CD
 Rob Taylor
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 x8599
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  VT Library Users' Guide

 -Original Message-
 From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 November 2008 15:16
 To: list 313
 Subject: Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

 My sympathies.  My experience has been completely the opposite, but I've
 always seen them in Iowa City or Detroit or Chicago.  In those places
 they definitely have something different to prove.

 Buzz playing in Iowa City (fun fact: his gf Kelleigh went to the
 University of Iowa and was a DJ here before moving to Detroit) was
 fantastic.  He started out playing some stonking, dirty, house tracks,
 and over the course of two hours wound it up to a virtuoso juggling of
 UR Assault tracks.  I have a board recording of that set somewhere

 On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Buzz Goree, DJ3000, Rolando, even Suburban Knight have all
 disappointed in the past, not because they are bad DJs but because
 they seem to fall prey to the notion that when in Europe one must
 either bang it out or play an indistinct Detroit Stars on 45 set - I
 guess they can't win cos there are plenty of people who do want to
 hear that sort of thing. Not me though.

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Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread David Powers
I agree, Suburban Knight threw down when I saw him in Chicago. And it
was not the kind of set Robert Taylor complained about at all, it was
nice bumping house and techno but not too pitched up.

This thread reminds me I should visit Jeff Mills store Friday, it's
around the corner from my house. The tshirts are kinda out of my price
range though.

~David

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:16 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My sympathies.  My experience has been completely the opposite, but
 I've always seen them in Iowa City or Detroit or Chicago.  In those
 places they definitely have something different to prove.

 Buzz playing in Iowa City (fun fact: his gf Kelleigh went to the
 University of Iowa and was a DJ here before moving to Detroit) was
 fantastic.  He started out playing some stonking, dirty, house tracks,
 and over the course of two hours wound it up to a virtuoso juggling of
 UR Assault tracks.  I have a board recording of that set somewhere

 On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Buzz Goree, DJ3000, Rolando, even Suburban Knight have all disappointed
 in the past, not because they are bad DJs but because they seem to fall
 prey to the notion that when in Europe one must either bang it out or
 play an indistinct Detroit Stars on 45 set - I guess they can't win cos
 there are plenty of people who do want to hear that sort of thing. Not
 me though.




Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread james . hurlbut

Quoting kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


UR Assault tracks.  I have a board recording of that set somewhere


Post it!



Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread kent williams
Buzz asked that we not do that. Me and a few friends have copies, and
the rest of y'all will just have to cope.  Or book Buzz yourself, and
tell him Don't play one of those sets that cheeses off Robert
Taylor.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:48 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 UR Assault tracks.  I have a board recording of that set somewhere

 Post it!




RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Robert Taylor
He's not in the UR Assault Squad is he?
Mills can still surprise for sure.  
Not heard him in a while though


Rob Taylor
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 26 November 2008 14:43
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

Mills included?


 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 November 2008 13:07
 
 Never been impressed with any of them
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Williams, Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 November 2008 10:08
 
 But every time I've seen a UR DJ, I've been completely demolished.
 
 The exception to this rule is DJ3000, I saw him a few years again, to 
 label him a UR Assault DJ was a joke

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RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sure I've seen him quoted as the first UR Assault DJ bla bla in some UR bumph.

Anyway I wasn't sure if you were answering UR DJ or UR Assault DJ (the 
first was closest to your reply).

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 November 2008 17:46
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28
 
 He's not in the UR Assault Squad is he?
 Mills can still surprise for sure.
 Not heard him in a while though
 
 
 Rob Taylor
 VT Librarian
 x8599
 Hatch Desk x1088
  VT Library Users' Guide
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 26 November 2008 14:43
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28
 
 Mills included?
 
 
  From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 26 November 2008 13:07
 
  Never been impressed with any of them
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Williams, Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 26 November 2008 10:08
 
  But every time I've seen a UR DJ, I've been completely demolished.
 
  The exception to this rule is DJ3000, I saw him a few years again, to
  label him a UR Assault DJ was a joke



Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-26 Thread Fred Heutte
And this is an extra-good event with Forest Green, one of my oldest friends
in the SF DJ scene who has very good taste and leans toward the electro
side of the techno spectrum.

fh

-
The UR DJs do not get booked enough in the US.  I know that there are
more than a few people who haven't really been feeling the UR output
for the past few years.  I'm not one of them, but I can see how some
people might not be getting it.  But every time I've seen a UR DJ,
I've been completely demolished.   Buzz Goree is the guy I've seen
most, and every time I've been schooled, and had a great time besides.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:39 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SANTIAGO SALAZAR: UndergroundResistance|Los Hermanos [ Detroit|LA ]
 FOREST GREEN: CuteFang|FnF|Faktion|SisterSF|DEF [ SF ]
 OROTORO: FnF|Faktion [ SF ] vs DISCONNECT: DEF|Faktion [ SF ]
 live webcast via Radio Integrated!

 FOREST GREEN: Standard bearer for techno in San Francisco through even its
 most silent days, Forest remains one of the busiest DJs in this city by the
 bay, yet always manages to make each set a fresh and unique experience.
 Recently returning to focus on production, she's still known for her ability
 to select and mix tracks that get every audience dancing.




Re: (313) Santiago Salazar in SF 11/28

2008-11-25 Thread kent williams
The UR DJs do not get booked enough in the US.  I know that there are
more than a few people who haven't really been feeling the UR output
for the past few years.  I'm not one of them, but I can see how some
people might not be getting it.  But every time I've seen a UR DJ,
I've been completely demolished.   Buzz Goree is the guy I've seen
most, and every time I've been schooled, and had a great time besides.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:39 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SANTIAGO SALAZAR: UndergroundResistance|Los Hermanos [ Detroit|LA ]
 FOREST GREEN: CuteFang|FnF|Faktion|SisterSF|DEF [ SF ]
 OROTORO: FnF|Faktion [ SF ] vs DISCONNECT: DEF|Faktion [ SF ]
 live webcast via Radio Integrated!

 FOREST GREEN: Standard bearer for techno in San Francisco through even its
 most silent days, Forest remains one of the busiest DJs in this city by the
 bay, yet always manages to make each set a fresh and unique experience.
 Recently returning to focus on production, she's still known for her ability
 to select and mix tracks that get every audience dancing.