Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
Haye! Isn't this a good metphor for house vs. techno? Detroit house is deep underground, Detroit techno is deep underwater? I'm feeling rather like a cross between Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over th Cuckoos Nest and Jack Nicholson in The Shining at the moment, so forgive me if this makes no sense. Just a thought. Davey Jones Locker, by meaning bottom of the sea as final rest for people who find their last home in the sea goes towards all the Drexciyan mithology. Drexciya define a whole topology under water the same way that topology is defined in outer space by UR/Red Planet. It is part of the same tendency of *ANY* culture to create a superior existence, either it be Zion for Rastafarianism, Africa for the descendants of the Black Atlantic, Aztlan (get it?) for Aztecs, or Heaven for judaism/christianism, somewaht the same as a spatial Nirvana. Drexciya simply present themselves as an aquatic assault unit, invisible like UR - Space is the Palce, but not necessarily Space. Being underwater is the same as being in outer space, detachment from a culture that considers them aliens, mutant electrofreaks living in an aquatic distopia, reflecting complete alienation from traditional instruments, pure mutant electronics at the time where the human stops using the machine to simulate traditional sounds but synthethises mutations by him/itself. Detachment is the word for Drexciya. someone may remember an interview by someone (90% sure it was Banks') that said that the Drexciya guys were stopped from entering a club that was playing their music. How alienated can you go? If someone finds that text, I'd appreciate a copy of it. Can't realy remember Lay Unconditional Empowerment http://barkingcat.org/counterforce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
Davey Jones Locker, by meaning bottom of the sea as final rest for people who find their last home in the sea goes towards all the Drexciyan mithology. Drexciya define a whole topology under water the same way that topology is defined in outer space by UR/Red Planet. It is part of the same tendency of *ANY* culture to create a superior existence, either it be Zion for Rastafarianism, Africa for the descendants of the Black Atlantic, Aztlan (get it?) for Aztecs, or Heaven for judaism/christianism, somewaht the same as a spatial Nirvana. Drexciya simply present themselves as an aquatic assault unit, invisible like UR - Space is the Palce, but not necessarily Space. Being underwater is the same as being in outer space, detachment from a culture that considers them aliens, mutant electrofreaks living in an aquatic distopia, reflecting complete alienation from traditional instruments, pure mutant electronics at the time where the human stops using the machine to simulate traditional sounds but synthethises mutations by him/itself. Detachment is the word for Drexciya. someone may remember an interview by someone (90% sure it was Banks') that said that the Drexciya guys were stopped from entering a club that was playing their music. How alienated can you go? If someone finds that text, I'd appreciate a copy of it. Can't realy remember --- You are thinking about an e-mail by Mike dating back to August 3th 1995 in a reaction to someone questioning UR`s tactics. Begin quote: `.I cannot tell you how many times me and my crew were denied entrance to a party because there were too many Black and Mexican scary guys or gang members at the door!! Unfortunately one of the guys from Drexciya was with us that night and it was a night he never forgot. Let me tell you prejudice hurts especially when it`s associated with the music you love and the city you were raised in. It is for this reason UR is in war with the programmers` End of quote J, saving you the research, out P.S. I only have a print out of that now. Hit me back on the 6th of June (when I`m back home) if you want the full version. I`m sure others will have it though. Lay Unconditional Empowerment http://barkingcat.org/counterforce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Where'd you find out about that? Sounds interesting. Can you give us a link or something? Thanks, Jamil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker --- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then again-it could mean something else-but all majority of the search points to this. makes perfect sense though if Drexciya was using it. Isn't this a good metphor for house vs. techno? Detroit house is deep underground, Detroit techno is deep underwater? I'm feeling rather like a cross between Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over th Cuckoos Nest and Jack Nicholson in The Shining at the moment, so forgive me if this makes no sense. Just a thought. Tristan i think its probably more relevant to the drexcyia mythology and the drexcyians being sea-bottom dwelling descendants of africans who were thrown overboard from slave ships en route to the colonies Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-originating-IP: 4.17.247.13 X-Originating-Account: jdm X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sent-by: web interface - mirrors.rochester.rr.com/email Re: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker --- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then again-it could mean something else-but all majority of the search points to this. makes perfect sense though if Drexciya was using it. Isn't this a good metphor for house vs. techno? Detroit house is deep underground, Detroit techno is deep underwater? I'm feeling rather like a cross between Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over th Cuckoos Nest and Jack Nicholson in The Shining at the moment, so forgive me if this makes no sense. Just a thought. Tristan i think its probably more relevant to the drexcyia mythology and the drexcyians being sea-bottom dwelling descendants of africans who were thrown overboard from slave ships en route to the colonies - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
i think its probably more relevant to the drexcyia mythology and the drexcyians being sea-bottom dwelling descendants of africans who were thrown overboard from slave ships en route to the colonies Jamil Ali wrote: Where'd you find out about that? Sounds interesting. Can you give us a link or something? I just did a web-search for the middle passage slave on google.com and came up with a heap of sites. Last year I read a book which mentioned it. It's called Flash for Freedom! by George MacDonald Fraser, an historical novel about the Atlantic slave trade in the mid-19th c before the Civil War. It's a great read (very addictive) and there are notes at the back with references to proper historical texts for further info. I dug it out and found this: note 30. 'Slaves certainly were thrown overboard on the approach of patrol vessels (see the case of the _Regulo_ which drowned over 200 in the Bight of Biafra, and the reported case of the clipper captain who was said to have murdered over 500 by dropping them with his anchor chain, both quoted in The Shameful Trade by George Kay)'. happy reading, Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
Haye! i think its probably more relevant to the drexcyia mythology and the drexcyians being sea-bottom dwelling descendants of africans who were thrown overboard from slave ships en route to the colonies Jamil Ali wrote: Where'd you find out about that? Sounds interesting. Can you give us a link or something? The inner sleeve notes in Drexciya's The Quest comp has something about this. It talks exactly about slaves being thrown overboard and how mutation of human beings into amphibian beings should be possible. note 30. 'Slaves certainly were thrown overboard on the approach of patrol vessels In approach of partols and also because of being sick... Lay Unconditional Empowerment http://barkingcat.org/counterforce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mario Atienza wrote: Who is Davy Jones Locker ? I'm not sure, but I do know that Colonel Sanders was delivered there... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
It's a euphemism for the bottom of the sea. Where you go if you fall off a boat, basically. No big techno significance. - Original Message - From: Mario Atienza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: [313] Davy Jones Locker Does anybody know any info about Davy Jones Locker ? I know Drexciya´s track with this name and other of System 7 Who is Davy Jones Locker ? Thanks in advance Mario Atienza ___ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger: Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente - http://messenger.yahoo.es - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-dav1.htm http://www.bartleby.com/61/29/D0042900.html def: The bottom of the sea, especially as the grave of all who perish at sea. simply type in Davy Jones Locker into http://www.google.com then again-it could mean something else-but all majority of the search points to this. makes perfect sense though if Drexciya was using it. d --- T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mario Atienza wrote: Who is Davy Jones Locker ? I'm not sure, but I do know that Colonel Sanders was delivered there... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
--- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then again-it could mean something else-but all majority of the search points to this. makes perfect sense though if Drexciya was using it. Isn't this a good metphor for house vs. techno? Detroit house is deep underground, Detroit techno is deep underwater? I'm feeling rather like a cross between Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over th Cuckoos Nest and Jack Nicholson in The Shining at the moment, so forgive me if this makes no sense. Just a thought. Tristan __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
heheheheheheheheh..nice;) just wondering how many peeple got that one... - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mario Atienza wrote: Who is Davy Jones Locker ? I'm not sure, but I do know that Colonel Sanders was delivered there... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
Just testing to see if people mainly talk or if some people actually listen to the posts!!! =) On Thu, 17 May 2001, tim maughan wrote: heheheheheheheheh..nice;) just wondering how many peeple got that one... - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mario Atienza wrote: Who is Davy Jones Locker ? I'm not sure, but I do know that Colonel Sanders was delivered there... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
--- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then again-it could mean something else-but all majority of the search points to this. makes perfect sense though if Drexciya was using it. Isn't this a good metphor for house vs. techno? Detroit house is deep underground, Detroit techno is deep underwater? I'm feeling rather like a cross between Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over th Cuckoos Nest and Jack Nicholson in The Shining at the moment, so forgive me if this makes no sense. Just a thought. Tristan i think its probably more relevant to the drexcyia mythology and the drexcyians being sea-bottom dwelling descendants of africans who were thrown overboard from slave ships en route to the colonies Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-originating-IP: 4.17.247.13 X-Originating-Account: jdm X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sent-by: web interface - mirrors.rochester.rr.com/email Re: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker --- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then again-it could mean something else-but all majority of the search points to this. makes perfect sense though if Drexciya was using it. Isn't this a good metphor for house vs. techno? Detroit house is deep underground, Detroit techno is deep underwater? I'm feeling rather like a cross between Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over th Cuckoos Nest and Jack Nicholson in The Shining at the moment, so forgive me if this makes no sense. Just a thought. Tristan i think its probably more relevant to the drexcyia mythology and the drexcyians being sea-bottom dwelling descendants of africans who were thrown overboard from slave ships en route to the colonies - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
we do listen, although we often ask outselves why. From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker Date: 17 May 2001 10:00:30 -0700 Just testing to see if people mainly talk or if some people actually listen to the posts!!! =) On Thu, 17 May 2001, tim maughan wrote: heheheheheheheheh..nice;) just wondering how many peeple got that one... - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mario Atienza wrote: Who is Davy Jones Locker ? I'm not sure, but I do know that Colonel Sanders was delivered there... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
Didn't Davy Jones collaborate with Derek May on Strings of Life?? The locker part was where Derek kept the original masters during the time he was listening to the piano loop. I think thats what its about... ollie www.forwardmusic.com (ya I know its not updated...) Mike Taylor wrote: we do listen, although we often ask outselves why. From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker Date: 17 May 2001 10:00:30 -0700 Just testing to see if people mainly talk or if some people actually listen to the posts!!! =) On Thu, 17 May 2001, tim maughan wrote: heheheheheheheheh..nice;) just wondering how many peeple got that one... - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mario Atienza wrote: Who is Davy Jones Locker ? I'm not sure, but I do know that Colonel Sanders was delivered there... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker
I thought they were referring to Davy Jones from the Monkees. Then again, that wouldn't be very philosophical... On Thu, 17 May 2001, Oliver Barkovic wrote: Didn't Davy Jones collaborate with Derek May on Strings of Life?? The locker part was where Derek kept the original masters during the time he was listening to the piano loop. I think thats what its about... ollie www.forwardmusic.com (ya I know its not updated...) Mike Taylor wrote: we do listen, although we often ask outselves why. From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker Date: 17 May 2001 10:00:30 -0700 Just testing to see if people mainly talk or if some people actually listen to the posts!!! =) On Thu, 17 May 2001, tim maughan wrote: heheheheheheheheh..nice;) just wondering how many peeple got that one... - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mario Atienza wrote: Who is Davy Jones Locker ? I'm not sure, but I do know that Colonel Sanders was delivered there... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Davy Jones Locker
i get it...hehehe...i think the bestie boys have something to do with this... -Original Message- From: tim maughan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org; T.J.Johnson Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker heheheheheheheheh..nice;) just wondering how many peeple got that one... - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] Davy Jones Locker On Thu, 17 May 2001, Mario Atienza wrote: Who is Davy Jones Locker ? I'm not sure, but I do know that Colonel Sanders was delivered there... TJ www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
