RE: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Clark
> > making kids on E dance doesnt mean much to me because they would be
> dancing
> > to anything with 4/4 timing at that point.

Sounds like you need to drop some Domu or something. What happens when
you have drugged out people who will dance to anything and the dj plays
some sophisticated music, like with breakdowns and such?

-Dave

ps the answer is the dj gets water bottles thrown at him/her.

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Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread :P
mills doesnt use a 909 in any imaginative way anyways IMO

and yes he does suck at spinning records, HOWEVER, he spins the best tracks
of any DJ I have heard..  thats why continue to listen to him and pay money
to see him when he decided to go to detroit.

hawtin is pretty good with a 909 on a good night.  but for my money I would
see acquaviva over Mills.

plz no flames.  just my opinion


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To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:46 PM
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> this fashion thread is pretty lame.
>
> as far as mills not playing techno anymore, that is no big thing to me,
> seeing how he has been to the detroit area like twice in the past seven
> years. he hasn't rocked it since "sickness" anyway, so i am not all that
> bent up about it. if i lived in the UK it might have more of an impact on
> me, cause they get to see him more often there. i have always thought of
> mills as an overrated techno snob..i mean why does he even have three
tables
> if he never uses three at once. i have never seen or heard a mix of his
> where he didn't trainwreck. i never held that agianst him for some reason
> though. he could just throw on "step to enchantment" and that would make
his
> set. the main thing i will miss is his use of the 909. oh well
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:01 PM
> Subject: Fw: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
>
>
> > hi tim,,
> > i could share your attitude concerning the "what to wear" topic,
> > but i do live in germany and if you would have  been to a technoparty
over
> > here
> > in the last 3 years you would probably think the same way peter does.
> > its such a f***huge fashion thing, its become a thing about how to wear
> what
> > and how to get his hair dressed up to stand 6 inches high,,,not to
mention
> > the accesories
> > it happened to me more than once that a absolutely clueless doorkeeper
(is
> > it called like that??)
> > told me im not going to get to that party because im not dressed the
> proper
> > way
> > and my hair isnt styled and i dont wear that neglace you have to wear if
> you
> > are into
> > techno.and so on.
> > you see,,,i really love to see mills teaching the crowd...
> > because thats also what means techno or music at all for me,,
> > learning and teaching,,,,understanding..
> > ron
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: "Tim Maughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > An: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'laura gavoor'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2002 19:11 RON
> > Betreff: Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
> >
> >
> > > on 28/1/02 5:28 pm, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > How many dj's do you know
> > > > that ban glowsticks and all that accessory raver crap from his
> > dancefloor?
> > >
> > > Too many. that might not be his or my style, but telling people what
to
> > wear
> > > is too much attitude. it goes against everything that first attracted
me
> > to
> > > house music. we don't need that sort of ego, and people need to wise
up
> > and
> > > realise who is paying who's wages.
> > >
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Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread danito
this fashion thread is pretty lame.

as far as mills not playing techno anymore, that is no big thing to me,
seeing how he has been to the detroit area like twice in the past seven
years. he hasn't rocked it since "sickness" anyway, so i am not all that
bent up about it. if i lived in the UK it might have more of an impact on
me, cause they get to see him more often there. i have always thought of
mills as an overrated techno snob..i mean why does he even have three tables
if he never uses three at once. i have never seen or heard a mix of his
where he didn't trainwreck. i never held that agianst him for some reason
though. he could just throw on "step to enchantment" and that would make his
set. the main thing i will miss is his use of the 909. oh well

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From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: Fw: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!


> hi tim,,
> i could share your attitude concerning the "what to wear" topic,
> but i do live in germany and if you would have  been to a technoparty over
> here
> in the last 3 years you would probably think the same way peter does.
> its such a f***huge fashion thing, its become a thing about how to wear
what
> and how to get his hair dressed up to stand 6 inches high,,,not to mention
> the accesories
> it happened to me more than once that a absolutely clueless doorkeeper (is
> it called like that??)
> told me im not going to get to that party because im not dressed the
proper
> way
> and my hair isnt styled and i dont wear that neglace you have to wear if
you
> are into
> techno.and so on.
> you see,,,i really love to see mills teaching the crowd...
> because thats also what means techno or music at all for me,,
> learning and teachingunderstanding..
> ron
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "Tim Maughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'laura gavoor'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2002 19:11 RON
> Betreff: Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
>
>
> > on 28/1/02 5:28 pm, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > How many dj's do you know
> > > that ban glowsticks and all that accessory raver crap from his
> dancefloor?
> >
> > Too many. that might not be his or my style, but telling people what to
> wear
> > is too much attitude. it goes against everything that first attracted me
> to
> > house music. we don't need that sort of ego, and people need to wise up
> and
> > realise who is paying who's wages.
> >
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Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread Tim Maughan

I understand your concerns Rin - its the same here - except luckily its not
techno parties. people only dress like that for trance - so they kind of
deserve it;) but i did actually see i show on TV about berlin and i was kind
of concerned to see what people where wearing - but i believe in NO door
policy, so its a shame and a crime if your being excluded. it really sucks.

are people dressing like that even at Tresor now?

Peace,

Tim

on 28/1/02 7:01 pm, Ron at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hi tim,,
> i could share your attitude concerning the "what to wear" topic,
> but i do live in germany and if you would have  been to a technoparty over
> here
> in the last 3 years you would probably think the same way peter does.
> its such a f***huge fashion thing, its become a thing about how to wear what
> and how to get his hair dressed up to stand 6 inches high,,,not to mention
> the accesories
> it happened to me more than once that a absolutely clueless doorkeeper (is
> it called like that??)
> told me im not going to get to that party because im not dressed the proper
> way
> and my hair isnt styled and i dont wear that neglace you have to wear if you
> are into
> techno.and so on.
> you see,,,i really love to see mills teaching the crowd...
> because thats also what means techno or music at all for me,,
> learning and teachingunderstanding..
> ron
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "Tim Maughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'laura gavoor'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2002 19:11 RON
> Betreff: Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
> 
> 
>> on 28/1/02 5:28 pm, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> How many dj's do you know
>>> that ban glowsticks and all that accessory raver crap from his
> dancefloor?
>> 
>> Too many. that might not be his or my style, but telling people what to
> wear
>> is too much attitude. it goes against everything that first attracted me
> to
>> house music. we don't need that sort of ego, and people need to wise up
> and
>> realise who is paying who's wages.
>> 
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Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread Tim Maughan
maybe. and maybe be i should be embarrassed that i wore a VW sign round my
neck and a baseball cap backwards when i was a kid.

but you know what? i'm not. i'm happy enough with myself now that i
recognise it was just a part of growing up. plus i don't want to start
sounding like my dad just because i'm pushing 30.

c'mon people, lighten up a little.

on 28/1/02 6:43 pm, Giles Dickerson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Keeping people from using glowsticks is just saving people from further
> embarrassing themselves. Everyone that plays with glowsticks, sometime, sooner
> or later, will be embarrassed they did.
> 
> - Giles
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>> Sent:  Monday, January 28, 2002 1:33 PM
>> To:  Grammenos, Peter; 'Tim Maughan'; 'laura gavoor'; 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject:  Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
>> 
>> I personally dont *like* glowsticks at parties I play at...
>> 
>> the general reason that the glowsticks are used is to play with when you are
>> on E.
>> 
>> and I dont endorse the drug culture thats been paralleling the techno scene
>> in the US for 3-4
>> years now.
>> 
>> making kids on E dance doesnt mean much to me because they would be dancing
>> to anything with 4/4 timing at that point.
>> 
>> 
>> just my 2cents
>> -Joe
>> 
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>> To: "'Tim Maughan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'laura gavoor'"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:17 PM
>> Subject: RE: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
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>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Tim Maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:12 PM
>>> To: Grammenos, Peter; 'laura gavoor'; 313@hyperreal.org
>>> Subject: Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> on 28/1/02 5:28 pm, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> How many dj's do you know
>>>> that ban glowsticks and all that accessory raver crap from his
>> dancefloor?
>>> 
>>> Too many. that might not be his or my style, but telling people what to
>> wear
>>> is too much attitude. it goes against everything that first attracted me
>> to
>>> house music. we don't need that sort of ego, and people need to wise up
>> and
>>> realise who is paying who's wages.
>>> 
>>> PG> The ravers in question didn't come for the music, danny, or the vibe
>> of
>>> be yourself @ vinyl party, they came because Twilo was shut down and to
>> sit
>>> around and do drugs. Before it was a place to dance in a dark and
>>> comforatable space, as soon as the ravers came with their glowsticks the
>>> vibe changed to a point where he didn't want to play anymore. Tell me what
>>> you would do in that situation.
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Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread Tim Maughan
on 28/1/02 6:17 pm, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tell me what
> you would do in that situation.


take the chance to try and educate them. but about music, not their dress
sense;)

obviously i don't know the whole situation in this example - and i'd be an
idiot to suggest i did. bit it p*sses me off to here this sort of cr*p from
people like Judge Jules, and i'd usually expect more from someone like DT,
who's work and skils ive always admired.

but like you say, i recognise its a tricky situation.


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RE: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread Giles Dickerson
Keeping people from using glowsticks is just saving people from further 
embarrassing themselves. Everyone that plays with glowsticks, sometime, sooner 
or later, will be embarrassed they did.

- Giles

D I G I T A S // B O S T O N
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> From: :P
> Reply To: :P
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:33 PM
> To:   Grammenos, Peter; 'Tim Maughan'; 'laura gavoor'; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject:  Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
> 
> I personally dont *like* glowsticks at parties I play at...
> 
> the general reason that the glowsticks are used is to play with when you are
> on E.
> 
> and I dont endorse the drug culture thats been paralleling the techno scene
> in the US for 3-4
> years now.
> 
> making kids on E dance doesnt mean much to me because they would be dancing
> to anything with 4/4 timing at that point.
> 
> 
> just my 2cents
> -Joe
> 
> 
> --
>R17 is not a fixed velocity, but it is clearly far too fast.
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> From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Tim Maughan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'laura gavoor'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:17 PM
> Subject: RE: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
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> 
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:12 PM
> > To: Grammenos, Peter; 'laura gavoor'; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
> >
> >
> > on 28/1/02 5:28 pm, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > How many dj's do you know
> > > that ban glowsticks and all that accessory raver crap from his
> dancefloor?
> >
> > Too many. that might not be his or my style, but telling people what to
> wear
> > is too much attitude. it goes against everything that first attracted me
> to
> > house music. we don't need that sort of ego, and people need to wise up
> and
> > realise who is paying who's wages.
> >
> > PG> The ravers in question didn't come for the music, danny, or the vibe
> of
> > be yourself @ vinyl party, they came because Twilo was shut down and to
> sit
> > around and do drugs. Before it was a place to dance in a dark and
> > comforatable space, as soon as the ravers came with their glowsticks the
> > vibe changed to a point where he didn't want to play anymore. Tell me what
> > you would do in that situation.
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2002-01-28 Thread :P
I personally dont *like* glowsticks at parties I play at...

the general reason that the glowsticks are used is to play with when you are
on E.

and I dont endorse the drug culture thats been paralleling the techno scene
in the US for 3-4
years now.

making kids on E dance doesnt mean much to me because they would be dancing
to anything with 4/4 timing at that point.


just my 2cents
-Joe


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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:12 PM
> To: Grammenos, Peter; 'laura gavoor'; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!
>
>
> on 28/1/02 5:28 pm, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > How many dj's do you know
> > that ban glowsticks and all that accessory raver crap from his
dancefloor?
>
> Too many. that might not be his or my style, but telling people what to
wear
> is too much attitude. it goes against everything that first attracted me
to
> house music. we don't need that sort of ego, and people need to wise up
and
> realise who is paying who's wages.
>
> PG> The ravers in question didn't come for the music, danny, or the vibe
of
> be yourself @ vinyl party, they came because Twilo was shut down and to
sit
> around and do drugs. Before it was a place to dance in a dark and
> comforatable space, as soon as the ravers came with their glowsticks the
> vibe changed to a point where he didn't want to play anymore. Tell me what
> you would do in that situation.
>
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RE: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread Grammenos, Peter


-Original Message-
From: Tim Maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:12 PM
To: Grammenos, Peter; 'laura gavoor'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!


on 28/1/02 5:28 pm, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> How many dj's do you know
> that ban glowsticks and all that accessory raver crap from his dancefloor?

Too many. that might not be his or my style, but telling people what to wear
is too much attitude. it goes against everything that first attracted me to
house music. we don't need that sort of ego, and people need to wise up and
realise who is paying who's wages.

PG> The ravers in question didn't come for the music, danny, or the vibe of
be yourself @ vinyl party, they came because Twilo was shut down and to sit
around and do drugs. Before it was a place to dance in a dark and
comforatable space, as soon as the ravers came with their glowsticks the
vibe changed to a point where he didn't want to play anymore. Tell me what
you would do in that situation.

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Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread Tim Maughan
on 28/1/02 5:28 pm, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> How many dj's do you know
> that ban glowsticks and all that accessory raver crap from his dancefloor?

Too many. that might not be his or my style, but telling people what to wear
is too much attitude. it goes against everything that first attracted me to
house music. we don't need that sort of ego, and people need to wise up and
realise who is paying who's wages.


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Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
I think Laura is on to something...particularly if the phrase "house club"
means a club where house music is played.

I've detailed this story before...I remember Kevin Saunderson throwing a
set at the Majestic in Detroit.  First "rave-style" party I'd been to...in
that there were like 16 djs and two rooms (a house room and a techno
room).  By the time we got there Jeff Mills was spinning in the "techno"
room.  Because I hadn't heard him in a long time I stuck around for a
bitthen left as soon as I could, because the vibe was more of a
concert vibe.  People were ALL turned towards Mills...and dancing with
themselves.  After getting literally knocked around a bit, me and my girl
went to the house room.  Where it was more intimate...and people were
dancing with each other and engaged in a different type of dialogue with
the dj.

Now I'm not as well traveled, and there could be a LOT of different stuff
going on here that I'm not aware of.  but when i FIRST saw the original
post, my majestic experience loomed large.  and though i've never been
more than a bedroom dj (except for that one party in inkster when i was in
high school that got shot up haha)  i think i'd get more of a vibe from
the house experience i described above rather than the techno experience.

peace
lks


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RE: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread Grammenos, Peter

Not to knock Mills because i've only seen him spin in NYC a few times, but
to dismiss danny t. as just a footnote in the story of mills is just plain
wrong. How many dj's do you know remix/produce a song every week to play
just for their weekly party? How many dj's come out every week from their
booth to go out and greet the crowd and ask how they felt last weekend after
the night? How many dj's give friends a chance to spin at their party or
play a track they've been working on for months? How many dj's do you know
that ban glowsticks and all that accessory raver crap from his dancefloor?
He's approachable, hard working, and has a passion for the music I've only
seen in a few others. 

Sure, over the years Danny has started playing a bit more commercial but it
doesn't make him a sell out or less technically skilled than he has always
been. He'e going through changes. I've seen him throw many a techno set down
at 6am and bang on through till 11am [ after most of the commercial loving
ravers have left ] that rivals and/or is better any set I've seen Mills do.
I saw mills in the early 90's @ the limelight and just recently (june 00)
again at the limelight. 

Danny used to dance and hang w/ larry levan @ the paradise garage.
doesn't get any blacker than that... and what what the hell black has to do
with this is beyond me..his parties have soul. Whites, blacks, gays,
divas, all used to go to paradise garage and now go to his party. If you
ever get a chance to go, stay until at least 6am, it's when his party really
begins. 

And to your point about Jeff Mills being able to out please me [ I am a
Danny Tenaglia regular, if haven't already guessed ;) ] , well it's never
happened.

-pete


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This thread is faulty with regard to one VERY important ingredient:

Jeff Mills got his start in 'black' Detroit clubs.  He's VERY used to very 
dressed up, 'bougie' crowds of couples DANCING all night long in a very sexy

environment.

I think perhaps he really misses feeling a LOT of soul coming back from the 
dancefloor and perhaps the batcave environments of events say like 'Lost' in

London are simply not appealing to him at the moment.  Not to mention that 
he played his own versions--Mastermixes-- if you will, of more popular 
stuff.

Yes, Jeff could outspin and out-please any Tenaglia crowd he chose to--why 
can I say that?  Because he's already done that for years and years 
while establishing a name for himself in Detroit clubs and on Detroit (and 
national) radio.  Moreover, as a black man playing to mostly white, techno 
crowdswell I suppose anyone might get bored with too much of any ONE 
thingwhatever it may be.

Danny Tenaglia ain't got a THING over Jeff Mills/The Wizard.  Jeff Mills has

clocked a coupla decades of djing and crowd pleasing to very persnickety 
black crowds where if you cleared a dancefloor or the ladies weren't 
dancing...you simply sucked..no second chances.

Think in terms of your own life being one gigantic mix...wouldn't you 
get bored with the same soundtrack and the same type of crowd--night after 
night.  He is a full grown man with an eclectic perspective on living.   One

must keep variety in the mix otherwise tings get monotonous...quickly

As a fan of Jeff's, I've seen both of his persona's as a dj and I MUCH 
prefer him as the Wizard to any more globally popular "techno" persona.  
It's a bit more organic and reaches a wider mass of peeps I think..not 
to mention that its just MORE FUN prolly for him as well as a fan like 
myself.

Finally, I will say one last thing--aren't these categories and folks' 
obsessive/compulsive need to categorize this music and pigeon-hole artists 
becoming more than just a  little monotonous??  I welcome any dj that can 
get up and simply freak a large, ADULT crowd with the wildest array of just 
plain ole great music of ANY genre.

Bear in mind that the young generations currently consuming the whole dj 
culture thing had literally nothing to do with bringing that culture to 
life.It has almost become a background setting for their drug taking, 
and in most cases involves very little activity above that.

Why would anyone want to limit themselves or any artist--when there's 
soo much good music to be heard??  Many of my favorite djs are on a 
mission to 'break the chains' and barrier/categories placed upon them by the

music media and fan base. I know more than a few hugely popular dn'b and 
house djs that are spinning music from all categories from jazz to rock n' 
roll to hip-hop, house, techno and beyond

I'm kinda interested in the beyond atm..After all...isn't what birthed 
techno in the first place?

Cheers Jeff...go on out dere, spank 'em and most of all 'ave a ball!!

.humbly offered



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Re: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-28 Thread robin pinning
>
> Yes, Jeff could outspin and out-please any Tenaglia crowd he chose to--why
> can I say that?  Because he's already done that for years and years
> while establishing a name for himself in Detroit clubs and on Detroit (and
> national) radio.  Moreover, as a black man playing to mostly white, techno
> crowdswell I suppose anyone might get bored with too much of any ONE
> thingwhatever it may be.
>
> Danny Tenaglia ain't got a THING over Jeff Mills/The Wizard.  Jeff Mills has
> clocked a coupla decades of djing and crowd pleasing to very persnickety
> black crowds where if you cleared a dancefloor or the ladies weren't
> dancing...you simply sucked..no second chances.

please don't misunderstand what i was saying wrt. to tenaglia. i don't
rate him over mills, i was simply using him as an example of a popular US
house dj.

> Finally, I will say one last thing--aren't these categories and folks'
> obsessive/compulsive need to categorize this music and pigeon-hole artists
> becoming more than just a  little monotonous??  I welcome any dj that can
> get up and simply freak a large, ADULT crowd with the wildest array of just
> plain ole great music of ANY genre.

yay, my point entirely.

robin...


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