Re: How to Create a Browser-Like Tabbed Interface
Olivier: Thank you for the suggestion. I've done some interesting things with ALP so a one row grid is certainly an option. Plain text would not give me the UI I want but, per your suggestion, using an image will provide a more attractive interface. And thank you for the link to your toolkit. It looks quite helpful! -- Douglas von Roeder 949-336-2902 On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 11:51 AM Olivier Flury via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Maybe as an alternative to SVG a Listbox with one row and no header and > use the cell's as tab controls? You can detect single/double/context click, > can put images, set colour, font style/size/colour insert and delete > columns... > > Listboxes are very versatile, I used them to create a custom colour > picker, a calendar picker and many other things, e.g.: > > https://flury-software.ch/a-swiss-army-knife-for-4d/ > > (free and source included) > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> Im Auftrag von Douglas von > Roeder via 4D_Tech > Gesendet: Montag, 21. Januar 2019 18:45 > An: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > Cc: Douglas von Roeder > Betreff: Re: How to Create a Browser-Like Tabbed Interface > > Keith: > > Thanks for the reply. > > The issue in 4D (which I should have explained) is that, since 4D doesn't > report a click, I can't trap for the contextual click. > > "SVG pictures offer a good way to see clicks. You'll always get an > object's ID, and you can put almost anything in the picture." > Agreed, but I'd rather avoid rolling my own — I'm a believer in the idea > that "someone, somewhere has solved this issue so there's a solution out > there". > I've also looked into using a button grid + graphic (not very > aesthetic) and there's always using On event call to trap the mouse > clicks, but that could present problems because resizing the tab control > could make the coordinates of each tab hard to determine. > > And I did check to see if Miyako had done something magical to solve this > problem but no joy there. > > -- > Douglas von Roeder > 949-336-2902 > > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:11 AM Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > A tab control will not report a click when the click is on the current > > tab "page", but Safari seems to work that way too (no reaction to a > > click on the current page's tab). Clicking another of the tab's areas > > will generate a click. > > > > SVG pictures offer a good way to see clicks. You'll always get an > > object's ID, and you can put almost anything in the picture. > > > > Keith - CDI > > > > > On Jan 21, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech < > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > > > I'd like to create an interface that mimics the functionality and > > > appearance of the tab control in Chrome or Safari. > > > > > > Given the functionality of the 4D tab control (once a tab is > > > clicked, it > > no > > > longer reports mouse clicks) what are my options for building a > > > highly functional, tabbed UI? > > > > > > -- > > > Douglas von Roeder > > > 949-336-2902 > > > > ** > > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > ** > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
AW: How to Create a Browser-Like Tabbed Interface
Maybe as an alternative to SVG a Listbox with one row and no header and use the cell's as tab controls? You can detect single/double/context click, can put images, set colour, font style/size/colour insert and delete columns... Listboxes are very versatile, I used them to create a custom colour picker, a calendar picker and many other things, e.g.: https://flury-software.ch/a-swiss-army-knife-for-4d/ (free and source included) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> Im Auftrag von Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech Gesendet: Montag, 21. Januar 2019 18:45 An: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: Douglas von Roeder Betreff: Re: How to Create a Browser-Like Tabbed Interface Keith: Thanks for the reply. The issue in 4D (which I should have explained) is that, since 4D doesn't report a click, I can't trap for the contextual click. "SVG pictures offer a good way to see clicks. You'll always get an object's ID, and you can put almost anything in the picture." Agreed, but I'd rather avoid rolling my own — I'm a believer in the idea that "someone, somewhere has solved this issue so there's a solution out there". I've also looked into using a button grid + graphic (not very aesthetic) and there's always using On event call to trap the mouse clicks, but that could present problems because resizing the tab control could make the coordinates of each tab hard to determine. And I did check to see if Miyako had done something magical to solve this problem but no joy there. -- Douglas von Roeder 949-336-2902 On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:11 AM Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > A tab control will not report a click when the click is on the current > tab "page", but Safari seems to work that way too (no reaction to a > click on the current page's tab). Clicking another of the tab's areas > will generate a click. > > SVG pictures offer a good way to see clicks. You'll always get an > object's ID, and you can put almost anything in the picture. > > Keith - CDI > > > On Jan 21, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > I'd like to create an interface that mimics the functionality and > > appearance of the tab control in Chrome or Safari. > > > > Given the functionality of the 4D tab control (once a tab is > > clicked, it > no > > longer reports mouse clicks) what are my options for building a > > highly functional, tabbed UI? > > > > -- > > Douglas von Roeder > > 949-336-2902 > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: How to Create a Browser-Like Tabbed Interface
I do this sort of thing with SVG often for clients. Contact me in private if you like. -- Jim Dorrance jim.dorra...@gmail.com 4...@dorrance.eu www.4d.dorrance.eu PS: If you know of anyone that needs an experienced 4D programmer to add energy and experience to their team, please let me know. I have experience in many areas. Reasonable rates. Remote or Paris only. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: How to Create a Browser-Like Tabbed Interface
Keith: Thanks for the reply. The issue in 4D (which I should have explained) is that, since 4D doesn't report a click, I can't trap for the contextual click. "SVG pictures offer a good way to see clicks. You'll always get an object's ID, and you can put almost anything in the picture." Agreed, but I'd rather avoid rolling my own — I'm a believer in the idea that "someone, somewhere has solved this issue so there's a solution out there". I've also looked into using a button grid + graphic (not very aesthetic) and there's always using On event call to trap the mouse clicks, but that could present problems because resizing the tab control could make the coordinates of each tab hard to determine. And I did check to see if Miyako had done something magical to solve this problem but no joy there. -- Douglas von Roeder 949-336-2902 On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 9:11 AM Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > A tab control will not report a click when the click is on the current tab > "page", but Safari seems to work that way too (no reaction to a click on > the current page's tab). Clicking another of the tab's areas will generate > a click. > > SVG pictures offer a good way to see clicks. You'll always get an > object's ID, and you can put almost anything in the picture. > > Keith - CDI > > > On Jan 21, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > I'd like to create an interface that mimics the functionality and > > appearance of the tab control in Chrome or Safari. > > > > Given the functionality of the 4D tab control (once a tab is clicked, it > no > > longer reports mouse clicks) what are my options for building a highly > > functional, tabbed UI? > > > > -- > > Douglas von Roeder > > 949-336-2902 > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: How to Create a Browser-Like Tabbed Interface
A tab control will not report a click when the click is on the current tab "page", but Safari seems to work that way too (no reaction to a click on the current page's tab). Clicking another of the tab's areas will generate a click. SVG pictures offer a good way to see clicks. You'll always get an object's ID, and you can put almost anything in the picture. Keith - CDI > On Jan 21, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > I'd like to create an interface that mimics the functionality and > appearance of the tab control in Chrome or Safari. > > Given the functionality of the 4D tab control (once a tab is clicked, it no > longer reports mouse clicks) what are my options for building a highly > functional, tabbed UI? > > -- > Douglas von Roeder > 949-336-2902 ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
How to Create a Browser-Like Tabbed Interface
I'd like to create an interface that mimics the functionality and appearance of the tab control in Chrome or Safari. Given the functionality of the 4D tab control (once a tab is clicked, it no longer reports mouse clicks) what are my options for building a highly functional, tabbed UI? -- Douglas von Roeder 949-336-2902 ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
