Re: Listbox Subform Modern UI

2019-06-27 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Robert,
First off I wouldn't recommend trying to implement any of the new ORDA
style techniques in existing forms. I just don't see any benefit.

So, if you have the opportunity to make a new form to replace an existing
one I recommend spending some time getting familiar with the new Form
object. This completely changes the way you make a form. From there the way
subforms work now is very cool and so. much.easier. Specifically check out
OBJECT SET SUBFORM. With this you can change what's displayed in a subform
object instantly. So you can setup a manner of 'sub' forms and switch them
in the subform object.

There's a bit to learn here if you are just starting in with ORDA but the
payoff is large.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 3:11 PM Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> Hi Kirk, I’m using Windows v17.2.
>
> The unusual issues with the Subform have been fixed, thanks to Tim Nevels.
> The converted database had fields defined on the included form which did
> not leave enough space for the chosen font size. Converted databases can
> take slightly more room and if there is no room to give than very strange
> behavior ensues. So for now this database will continue to use the old
> subform approach in these Admin only areas… but I’m still curious how you
> might choose to implement this with Listboxes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
> > On Jun 27, 2019, at 4:59 PM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> >
> > What version are you using?
>
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Re: Listbox Subform Modern UI

2019-06-27 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Hi Kirk, I’m using Windows v17.2. 

The unusual issues with the Subform have been fixed, thanks to Tim Nevels. The 
converted database had fields defined on the included form which did not leave 
enough space for the chosen font size. Converted databases can take slightly 
more room and if there is no room to give than very strange behavior ensues. So 
for now this database will continue to use the old subform approach in these 
Admin only areas… but I’m still curious how you might choose to implement this 
with Listboxes.

Thanks,

Robert

> On Jun 27, 2019, at 4:59 PM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> What version are you using?

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Re: Listbox Subform Modern UI

2019-06-27 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
What version are you using?

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 1:55 PM Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> Although, I’ve implemented this in various ways, I’d like to know the
> modern UI approach that you’ve found to be beneficial to your users and
> with an efficient programming effort. How do you handle included subforms
> (on a detailed form)? I’ve replaced an old included form with a new listbox
> object ( that’s populated with a related election of records. When I assign
> a required list to the only field presented in the listbox the selected
> record is not maintained which prevents the delete button from working.
> Also, the interface is a bit clunky since adding new records brings up the
> related table input form… So, how do you approach simple listbox objects to
> manage multiple related records where the acceptable values must be entered
> from a certain list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
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Re: Listbox Subform Modern UI

2019-06-27 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
What would cause a subform (not a listbox) to only show the first of several 
related records and when you click below that record, the first record 
disappears?
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Listbox Subform Modern UI

2019-06-27 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Although, I’ve implemented this in various ways, I’d like to know the modern UI 
approach that you’ve found to be beneficial to your users and with an efficient 
programming effort. How do you handle included subforms (on a detailed form)? 
I’ve replaced an old included form with a new listbox object ( that’s populated 
with a related election of records. When I assign a required list to the only 
field presented in the listbox the selected record is not maintained which 
prevents the delete button from working. Also, the interface is a bit clunky 
since adding new records brings up the related table input form… So, how do you 
approach simple listbox objects to manage multiple related records where the 
acceptable values must be entered from a certain list.

Thanks,

Robert
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