Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?
On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:29 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: the output of pci | grep net should be enough. - erik term% pci | grep net 2.9.0: net 02.00.00 1282/9102 3 0:d801 256 1:feaffc00 256 term% Thanks, Erik. You've been very helpful and friendly. :) Alex
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
s/Adjective/Addicted to/ On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:05 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: Adjective Bird Whiskey :)
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
It somehow makes me think about Alice in wonderland falling down the rabbit hole... Will she meet a Glenda nervously looking at the clock? PS. Sorry abort top post... Android's fault Den 6 jan 2014 19:27 skrev Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr: On 05/01/2014 19:09, Shane Morris wrote: Plan 9 Inside? No, it's just Plan 9 inside 9 inside 9 inside 9 inside 9. (-; Nicolas
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
It somehow makes me think about Alice in wonderland falling down the rabbit hole... Will she meet a Glenda nervously looking at the clock? Very nice! Mark.
[9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?
El lunes, 6 de enero de 2014, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca escribió: But realistically, for how much longer? The past year has shown the love is gone. I haven't been able to run a labs distribution on physical hardware for years. Nor on virtual hardware. It's time to choose a new king ... The Raspberry Pi is well supported and AFAIK changes are integrated in the Labs distribution (thanks Richard). With x86 do as with any other OS, look what's supported and buy it. Andres
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
On 07/01/2014 01:02, phineas.p...@gmail.com wrote: Nine 9s would have been symbolically better, but it cannot be made to work graphically unless the scale is enormous. At screen resolution the centre just becomes blurred. I had to settle for six nines (three positive, three negative). Peter 6 is just like an upside down 9. Even if I'm not an everyday user, Plan 9 has always surprized me in the ways it enables to do things. It's somehow like an upside down approach to the Unix world. 6 is 2/3 a 9... one may never exploit 100% Plan 9 in deepness? Also, regarding what Erik asked on 3rd January does anyone feel like debugging an infinite os?, I feel Plan 9 offers an extra-wide range of possibilities, approchoaching infinity suggested by your logo. And in the end, your logo is black (or really dark gray) and white, just like the Ed Wood movie. Thus, your logo fits well to me. Nicolas
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
Adjective Bird Whiskey :) prepositional bunny booze? fueled by rabbit rum? limping on lop liquor. (perhaps replace liquor with a handy l word.) - erik
Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?
On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:29 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: the output of pci | grep net should be enough. - erik term% pci | grep net 2.9.0: net 02.00.00 1282/9102 3 0:d801 256 1:feaffc00 256 term% Thanks, Erik. You've been very helpful and friendly. :) minooka; pci -v 1282/9102 1282/9102 Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet ok, this is just a matter of adding a few bits to the existing tulip driver. there are three bits that could be guessed at with hardware, but i'll see if i can find a datasheet or something. - erik
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
6 is just like an upside down 9. Even if I'm not an everyday user, 9 clock. now you can keep upside-down time. - erik clock.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
At Tue, 7 Jan 2014 06:59:38 +0100, Jens Staal wrote: [1 text/plain; UTF-8 (7bit)] [2 text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)] It somehow makes me think about Alice in wonderland falling down the rabbit hole... Will she meet a Glenda nervously looking at the clock? (The Cat Clock most likely.) Peter Ps. it may be dangerous to stare at it for long periods...
[9fans] mount with different username
Hi fans! I want to mount my filesystem on a linux machine from plan9. u9fs.log says: u9fs kill 23121 - Tversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000' - Rversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000' - Tattach tag 15 fid 527 afid -1 uname bence aname ruserok(, bence) not okay - Rerror tag 15 ename u9fs: rhosts authentication failed My username is not bence but bfabian on the linux system. That seems to be the problem. I guess maybe i should use the -k option of mount(1) but -k 'user=bfabian' doesn't seem to be enough. Any input? Thanks, BenceF
Re: [9fans] mount with different username
On 07/01/2014 18:17, Bence Fábián wrote: Hi fans! I want to mount my filesystem on a linux machine from plan9. u9fs.log says: u9fs kill 23121 - Tversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000' - Rversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000' - Tattach tag 15 fid 527 afid -1 uname bence aname ruserok(, bence) not okay - Rerror tag 15 ename u9fs: rhosts authentication failed My username is not bence but bfabian on the linux system. That seems to be the problem. I guess maybe i should use the -k option of mount(1) but -k 'user=bfabian' doesn't seem to be enough. Any input? Thanks, BenceF When I login with drawterm, I need to use both -u (for drawterm) and -k (for factotum if I remember well), maybe this is the same for mount: -u bfabian -k 'user=bfabian' Can't find -u in mount(1) as well as -k in drawterm usage(). Nicolas
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:00:42 +0100 Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote: Also, regarding what Erik asked on 3rd January does anyone feel like debugging an infinite os?, I feel Plan 9 offers an extra-wide range of possibilities, approchoaching infinity suggested by your logo. This logo reminds of the time tunnel in the old The Time Tunnel TV show. Hollywood's idea of science fiction, mysterious endless tunnel you can't escape from is not something I associate with plan9. If anything it takes the mystery out of good OS design! To me Plan9 is closer to a bucket of Lego Technics parts (and less Pirates of Caribbean kind of Lego sets). Small, well designed, high quality parts that are highly composable, fun to play with what you can build with is limited only by your imagination. Funny how we all see something different in the same graphic!
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
Will t-shirts be available? Hopefully not just white? Dave Eckhardt
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
On 07/01/2014 19:20, Bakul Shah wrote: On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:00:42 +0100 Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote: Also, regarding what Erik asked on 3rd January does anyone feel like debugging an infinite os?, I feel Plan 9 offers an extra-wide range of possibilities, approchoaching infinity suggested by your logo. This logo reminds of the time tunnel in the old The Time Tunnel TV show. Hollywood's idea of science fiction, mysterious endless tunnel you can't escape from is not something I associate with plan9. If anything it takes the mystery out of good OS design! To me Plan9 is closer to a bucket of Lego Technics parts (and less Pirates of Caribbean kind of Lego sets). Small, well designed, high quality parts that are highly composable, fun to play with what you can build with is limited only by your imagination. Funny how we all see something different in the same graphic! I completely agree. And I think my point of view was, since I'm a big fan of Lego Technic, just expressing the wide range of things you can invent with Lego Technic parts. Nicolas
Re: [9fans] mount with different username
On 07/01/2014 18:33, Nicolas Bercher wrote: maybe this is the same for mount: -u bfabian -k 'user=bfabian' Sorry, after a quick code exploration (mount.c), I think this is a wrong assumption. Nicolas
Re: [9fans] mount with different username
what do you have in your factotum for that dom? (i.e. grep linuxboxname /mnt/factotum/ctl) On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Bence Fábián beg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fans! I want to mount my filesystem on a linux machine from plan9. u9fs.log says: u9fs kill 23121 - Tversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000' - Rversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000' - Tattach tag 15 fid 527 afid -1 uname bence aname ruserok(, bence) not okay - Rerror tag 15 ename u9fs: rhosts authentication failed My username is not bence but bfabian on the linux system. That seems to be the problem. I guess maybe i should use the -k option of mount(1) but -k 'user=bfabian' doesn't seem to be enough. Any input? Thanks, BenceF
Re: [9fans] mount with different username
Im home now. Will send it tomorrow 2014/1/7, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com: what do you have in your factotum for that dom? (i.e. grep linuxboxname /mnt/factotum/ctl) On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Bence Fábián beg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fans! I want to mount my filesystem on a linux machine from plan9. u9fs.log says: u9fs kill 23121 - Tversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000' - Rversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000' - Tattach tag 15 fid 527 afid -1 uname bence aname ruserok(, bence) not okay - Rerror tag 15 ename u9fs: rhosts authentication failed My username is not bence but bfabian on the linux system. That seems to be the problem. I guess maybe i should use the -k option of mount(1) but -k 'user=bfabian' doesn't seem to be enough. Any input? Thanks, BenceF
[9fans] Keep it going
Guys, keep up the good work. One day I might even have the courage to
really go focused in learning C and come back to give feedback one day
after I read the code. That is, also when I hope to get spare time in
life to do it, usually at night by sleeping less.
I am trying to find my place to where to get started, albeit a 1000 book
on Linux Kernel is quite something for which reason I do not know why I
get the feeling that P9 is more appropiate to start with; in the same
time, for sure, not the same thing as with Unix or Linux, maybe they
share similarities in concepts? I do not think so...
Still a lot to read and discover... also asked on IRC. What's your opinion?
I like small communities :-) you feel connected... easier and not lost
in a pool of ignorance, unless you submit really bad code. In that case
I think you don't belong anywhere...
Quite a long mail so sorry, just wanted to congratulate you for sticking
around :-). This is especially because of the e-mails I read recently,
those that bring so many negative opinions on P9 overall.
P.S.: C book I have is KR (2nd edition - ANSI) + Art of Assembly 2nd
edition from Randall, only that this one caught some serious dust on it
until more recently...
Anyways, not so technical this e-mail so... I think I will stop here :-)
Thanks for everything you do :-) and thanks to Bell Labs
P.P.S.: summer.reconstructed.pdf is still fun as hell
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[9fans] qemu and networking
Hi, I've installed plan9 on a plan9.raw.img file via qemu and I'm able to boot on it. How can I transfer files between plan9 and my host (I'm under macos)? I've followed http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/installing_plan_9_on_qemu/index.html and run qemu -hda Plan9.qcow2.img -net nic -net user but from plan9 when I do rc ip/ping 10.0.2.2 nothing happens.
Re: [9fans] qemu and networking
I've only ever gotten networking working on OS X using the tun/tap driver. It's a bit of a pain in the ass but works quite well. -- Veety
Re: [9fans] qemu and networking
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 10:16:02PM +, Yoann Padioleau wrote: qemu -hda Plan9.qcow2.img -net nic -net user but from plan9 when I do rc ip/ping 10.0.2.2 nothing happens. The user-mode (SLIRP) network stack in QEMU doesn't support ICMP. http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Networking#User_Networking_.28SLIRP.29
Re: [9fans] qemu and networking
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 22:16:02 GMT Yoann Padioleau p...@fb.com wrote: I've installed plan9 on a plan9.raw.img file via qemu and I'm able to boot = on it. How can I transfer files between plan9 and my host (I'm under macos)? I've followed http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/installing_plan_9_on_qe= mu/index.html and run qemu -hda Plan9.qcow2.img -net nic -net user but from plan9 when I do rc ip/ping 10.0.2.2 nothing happens. You can reuse your qcow image with virtualbox where this is relatively easy to fix.
Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo
I wonder who could decide to adopt it on behalf of the community? As I understand it, this list is not a community, but an anarcho-syndicalist commune. In which case the executive officer for the week can decide to adopt the new logo, but all decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting, by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major (I ORDER YOU TO BE QUIET - SIGNED BOYD (RIP)). So my question is, do we need a simple majority to adopt the new logo, or will a two-thirds majority be called for?
