Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
The list didn't want to know that the list didn't want to know it either. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:45 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Yes, I'd like to have one :) > Sorry, but the list wouldn't like to know that you would like to have one. > Also I've never heard of any mediacloud. > > On 2/17/10, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > * J Thigpen (cdarwin) wrote: > >> > hmm, interesting, never heared about werc. > >> > >> http://werc.cat-v.org/ > >> Documentation is very straight forward. > > > > Yep, looks quite interesting. For now it still lacks the functionality > > I need in most web projects (which joomla has ;-p), but could become > > a very promising toolkit. Maybe I'll find some time to implement an > > frontend for my MediaCloud platform. > > > >> > can it be administrated via web ? or could I mount its datasource ? > >> > >> Uriel already offered to give you an editor account for you or anyone > >> else interested in contributing. > > > > Yes, I'd like to have one :) > > > > > > cu > > -- > > -- > > Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ > > > > phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de > > mobile: +49 174 7066481 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 > > -- > > Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme > > -- > > > > > >
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
Yes, I'd like to have one :) Sorry, but the list wouldn't like to know that you would like to have one. Also I've never heard of any mediacloud. On 2/17/10, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * J Thigpen (cdarwin) wrote: >> > hmm, interesting, never heared about werc. >> >> http://werc.cat-v.org/ >> Documentation is very straight forward. > > Yep, looks quite interesting. For now it still lacks the functionality > I need in most web projects (which joomla has ;-p), but could become > a very promising toolkit. Maybe I'll find some time to implement an > frontend for my MediaCloud platform. > >> > can it be administrated via web ? or could I mount its datasource ? >> >> Uriel already offered to give you an editor account for you or anyone >> else interested in contributing. > > Yes, I'd like to have one :) > > > cu > -- > -- > Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ > > phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de > mobile: +49 174 7066481 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 > -- > Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme > -- > >
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
* J Thigpen (cdarwin) wrote: > > hmm, interesting, never heared about werc. > > http://werc.cat-v.org/ > Documentation is very straight forward. Yep, looks quite interesting. For now it still lacks the functionality I need in most web projects (which joomla has ;-p), but could become a very promising toolkit. Maybe I'll find some time to implement an frontend for my MediaCloud platform. > > can it be administrated via web ? or could I mount its datasource ? > > Uriel already offered to give you an editor account for you or anyone > else interested in contributing. Yes, I'd like to have one :) cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de mobile: +49 174 7066481 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme --
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, EBo wrote: Ethan Grammatikidis said: approach is. Unix was made with the idea of getting away from the overburdened, ridiculously bloated operating systems of the past. Actually, explaining that in an ezine would make a wonderful article. Actually if I had time I think we could post a half dozen or more references which basically explain this as why Plan 9 was designed and developed in the first place. Here's a great example from unix: http://man.cat-v.org/unix-1st/1/cat http://code.google.com/p/unix-jun72/source/browse/trunk/src/cmd/cat.s simple, understandable, useful, composable. EBo -- Tim Newsham | www.thenewsh.com/~newsham | thenewsh.blogspot.com
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
* EBo wrote: > Actually, explaining that in an ezine would make a wonderful article. > Actually if I had time I think we could post a half dozen or more references > which basically explain this as why Plan 9 was designed and developed in the > first place. ACK. And that should really explain *why* the Plan9 approach (to me, personally, that's not the OS itself, but the concepts like synthetic filesystems behind it) are better. I'd also like to have that ezine as a place for presenting ideas, even those which aren't implemented yet. For example, I often use idle times (like right now ;-)) to think about how bloaty things in the GNU/Linux world (from relatively little things like some virtualized devices up to whole desktop environments) could be done much better the Plan9 way. Unfortunately I don't have thet time to implement all these ideas which float around my head. So I'd like at least present them to the world, so hopefully one picks up some. cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de mobile: +49 174 7066481 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme --
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
Ethan Grammatikidis said: > With reference to both this and the Binary Format thread I would like > to say I don't think many people really grasp how different Plan 9's > approach is. Unix was made with the idea of getting away from the > overburdened, ridiculously bloated operating systems of the past. > (Lisp machines could take 15 minutes to start up.) Today the computing > world knows nothing else than trying to add back that bloat unix got > away from, except this time it's usually without the careful design of > the past. Actually, explaining that in an ezine would make a wonderful article. Actually if I had time I think we could post a half dozen or more references which basically explain this as why Plan 9 was designed and developed in the first place. EBo --
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
On 16 Feb 2010, at 16:45, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, anyone here interested in helping on a little plan9-related eZine ? I've set up an joomla for it [...] A nice thought, but you are suggesting making a pro-vegetarian website and peppering the pages with pictures of juicy steaks. ;) With reference to both this and the Binary Format thread I would like to say I don't think many people really grasp how different Plan 9's approach is. Unix was made with the idea of getting away from the overburdened, ridiculously bloated operating systems of the past. (Lisp machines could take 15 minutes to start up.) Today the computing world knows nothing else than trying to add back that bloat unix got away from, except this time it's usually without the careful design of the past.
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
> hmm, interesting, never heared about werc. http://werc.cat-v.org/ Documentation is very straight forward. > can it be administrated via web ? or could I mount its datasource ? Uriel already offered to give you an editor account for you or anyone else interested in contributing. > Perhaps you could send me a copy of your site, so I can play > around w/ it ? hg clone http://gsoc.cat-v.org/hg/werc/
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
* Uriel wrote: > I really would appreciate it if more people contributed content to > 9times: http://ninetimes.cat-v.org > > Aediks has started to post some stuff, but obviously there are many > more things that could be added (I have some interviews that I have to > finish transcribing and posted for example). > > Anyone interested on being able to post articles to 9times just send > me an email and I'll create a werc editor account you can use to post > stuff. hmm, interesting, never heared about werc. can it be administrated via web ? or could I mount its datasource ? I've chosen joomla for lo9, since I'm working w/ it every day (also hosting dozens of it) and it's quite easy for unexercised users, and of course the large amount of extensions available (including my own ones ;-)). Perhaps you could send me a copy of your site, so I can play around w/ it ? cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de mobile: +49 174 7066481 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme --
[9fans] Plan9 ezine
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 7:16 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> Anyone interested on being able to post articles to 9times just send >> me an email and I'll create a werc editor account you can use to post >> stuff. > > suggestion: it would be nice if blog entries, etc on ninetimes > were either signed or didn't contain personal pronouns. Good point, they used to include the name of the author, but I think I removed it a while ago because nobody else was posting, I should add it back, the information is still there (i think) just need to display it. uriel
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
> Anyone interested on being able to post articles to 9times just send > me an email and I'll create a werc editor account you can use to post > stuff. suggestion: it would be nice if blog entries, etc on ninetimes were either signed or didn't contain personal pronouns. - erik
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > anyone here interested in helping on a little plan9-related eZine ? > I've set up an joomla for it, and I also can provide an integrated > video hosting (venti-based ;-p). No content yet, suggestions or > contributions appreciated :) I really would appreciate it if more people contributed content to 9times: http://ninetimes.cat-v.org Aediks has started to post some stuff, but obviously there are many more things that could be added (I have some interviews that I have to finish transcribing and posted for example). Anyone interested on being able to post articles to 9times just send me an email and I'll create a werc editor account you can use to post stuff. uriel > cu > -- > -- > Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ > > phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de > mobile: +49 174 7066481 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 > -- > Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme > -- > >
Re: [9fans] Plan9 ezine
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[9fans] Plan9 ezine
Hi folks, anyone here interested in helping on a little plan9-related eZine ? I've set up an joomla for it, and I also can provide an integrated video hosting (venti-based ;-p). No content yet, suggestions or contributions appreciated :) http://landofnine.metux.de/ cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de mobile: +49 174 7066481 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme --