Re: [abcusers] Re: abc and microtonality

2003-06-26 Thread Georg Hajdu
I must admit that I like Buddha Buck's idea the best.
I'd like to suggest a small modification in case someone ever needs a subdivision of the whole tone smaller than 1/8. 
1. The step size should be defined in a special field in analogy to the default fraction specified in the L: field (as Irwin Oppenheim suggested)
2. _# and _## resp. ^# and ^## should denote step sizes in respect to the default fraction
3. _### or ^### should denote deviations in cent (with a leading 0). Example: ^098A.
These deviations should be printed above the notes (without leading 0) just like chord symbols (this is standard in some microtonal literature).

Please let me know what you think.

Regards,

Georg

On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 12:10 AM, I. Oppenheim wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, John Chambers wrote:

Buddha Buck writes:
| Georg Hajdu wrote:
| Actually, I could suggest another notation:  _#C, where # is a single
| digit, means flatting C by that many eighth-tones.  For finer control,
| _##C, where ## is a pair of digits, means flattening C by that many
| cents, or 100ths of a semitone.   ^#C and ^##C have analogous
| defintions, but sharpening instead.

Or, to be consistent with the rest of abc, we could just put a length
after an accidental.  So _2/3A would be an A that is flatted 2/3 of a

The _# notation is already consistent with the rest of
ABC. See, note lengths are always given relative to the
default fraction specified in the L: field. The default
fraction of the _# notation just happens to be an
1/8th.

Wouldn't a resolution of an 1/8th note be sufficient
for musical notation?


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Re: [abcusers] Re: abc and microtonality

2003-06-26 Thread Georg Hajdu
Sorry, what I meant was ratio not step size.
I still think this should defined in a separate line.

I might use an incomplete abc implementation (only the things I really need) in my own real-time notation program; I'll leave it to others to integrate Buddha Buck's or my suggestions  in their more complete implementations.

Nevertheless, it would be nice to see whether or not there could some agreement in the abc community on microtonal notation.

Regards,

Georg

On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 06:42 PM, I. Oppenheim wrote:

I must admit that I like Buddha Buck's idea the best.
I'd like to suggest a small modification in case someone ever needs a
subdivision of the whole tone smaller than 1/8.
1. The step size should be defined in a special field in analogy to the
default fraction specified in the L: field (as Irwin Oppenheim
suggested)

Are you going to implement it?


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Re: [abcusers] The ABC applications database

2003-06-26 Thread Phil Taylor
Hi Frank,

Nice to see you back.

Yaps (Macintosh version)
http://rbu01.ed-rbu.mrc.ac.uk/barflystuff/barflypage.html

URL is out of date.  Like BarFly, it's now at:

http://www.barfly.dial.pipex.com

Phil Taylor


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Re: [abcusers] The ABC applications database

2003-06-26 Thread Steve Mansfield
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frank Nordberg 
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TIAO
http://www.lesession.demon.co.uk/abc/tiaohelp.htm
That's now at

http://www.lesession.co.uk/abc/tiaohelp.htm

and a friend has ported it into php (the original is a sharp intake of 
breath Internet Exploder only thing) but I'm not sure if his version is 
'live' yet. I'll check with Richard  let you know.

The abc it kicks out is very basic so there's no V: support or anything 
like that - it's just a bit of fun really 

Cheers

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Re: [abcusers] The ABC applications database

2003-06-26 Thread David Webber
Hello All,

From: Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The abc it kicks out is very basic so there's no V: support or
anything
 like that - it's just a bit of fun really 

I wanted to ask about V:  - I understand this adds parallel voices.

Let me introduce myself: I'm the author of  the MOZART music
notation software (url in sig) and I am belatedly getting round to
adding support for abc.

I've been reading the May 2000 abc spec 1.7.6 but I believe that is
just for a single line of music.  Is there an official
description/specification of the V: extension anywhere?

Dave
David Webber
Author of MOZART the music processor for Windows -
http://www.mozart.co.uk
Member of the North Cheshire Concert Band
http://www.northcheshire.org.uk

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