Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines

[Geetha Shamanna]

Well, I am still vary of seals, as they can be easily stolen, not only by 
strangers, but also by ill-meaning family members. Several blind people in 
India live with distant relatives who do not always keep the well-being of 
the blind person in mind. I know of an instance where the relatives of a 
blind bank employee regularly took away most of his earnings. Their 
justification was that they took care of him.

In terms of security, thumb impression is probably better than a seal.

Geetha
- Original Message - 
From: "Manish Agrawal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


Did some googling to find out what others in the world do about this.
Affixing seals appears to be the favoured mechanism as per the following
discussion thread - with people from the US, Japan, China etc.:
http://www.washington.edu/doit/Newsletters/May06/16.html

Pasting below for people who have difficulty following the above link (BTW,
the below text doesn't look properly formatted on my machine...but this is
the best I could get):
 The Thread—Making Your Mark
--

by Sheryl Burgstahler , DO-IT Director


A DO-IT Mentor recently posed the following question within our Internet
discussion forum. I will share with you some of the responses so that you
can get the flavor of the many rich and informative conversations in our
DO-IT community.

*How do people, who physically have difficulty in using a pen, write their
signatures when they pay by check or credit card? Are there any useful
implements or alternative ways for them to do this?*

*DO-IT Mentor:* Using a debit card is one alternative. However, writing a
signature is still frequently asked for. I am not sure if we can escape from
it completely. However, in my country, Japan, signatures are not common.

We use seals (stamps) instead. People who cannot write usually ask somebody
else to stamp their seal for them and the result is the same whomever does
it. Keeping their own seal is a good proof.

I personally hope that writing signatures will become much simpler using
technology so that in the near future people can do this independently.
Electronic money has been a big theme in recent years, with the big question
being "how does one keep personal information secure?" Can I ask how this
signature challenge is coped with in the US today?

*DO-IT Mentor with Cerebral Palsy:* Years ago I "wrote" my signature on the
computer using CorelDRAW™ and my trackball, and then I had a stamp made of
it. Maybe 5% of the time people question the legality of it, but I have not
had too much trouble. When I don't have my stamp, I have someone print my
name and then they sign next to it with the word "by" followed by his/her
name.

*DO-IT Mentor who has no functional use of hands:* Something I should
mention about a signature stamp is that the person using it should have it
notarized to make it technically legal.

*'94 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of hands:* Speaking of a
signature stamp, I have one myself, and I love it. One thing that my bank
asked of me is to give them a copy of the stamped signature, which is just
for the safety for both me and them.

*'94 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of hands:* Also I forgot to
mention that my bank only accepted a signature stamp with my actual
signature. It could not be generated from a computer for security reasons.

*'99 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of hands:* I can hold a pen
for writing. It looks like a little child's writing. I also had a stamp
made, which can usually be done at any US office store.

*DO-IT Mentor:* I have a friend who is barely able to hold a pen. He just
signs an "x" where his signature is supposed to be. As long as store
employees see him do it, he hasn't had any problems.

*DO-IT Mentor with visual impairment:* One tool that can help, but is
usually associated with vision loss, is a signature guide. It helps contain
the signature in the correct position. It comes in paper, plastic, and metal
and is inexpensive.

There are also pens that have a fatter and rougher grip. Examples/sources
include:
http://www.maxiaids.com/
http://www.disabilitysupplies.co.uk/

Also check out sites like
http://www.msnewengland.org/msconnection/summer2002/assist.html

*'98 Scholar who is blind:* Thanks for describing signature guides. I was
going to comment on the signature guides but I was unsure how to describe
them.

*'95 Scholar who has limited use of hands:* I sort of have the opposite
problem. I often get the comment that I should get a stamp, but I am
perfectly capable of signing my own signature. If businesses had their
counters down at the level they are supposed to be, I wouldn't have a
problem (or in some cases they don't have a counter at all, and expect you
to sign in a windowsill with the metal window track right in the middle
underneath the paper). I find it insulting when someon

Re: [AI] Help needed regarding the G Talk

[Abdul Razique]

Hello sir,

You can download the Jaws scripts for G Talk from
http://aruni100.googlepages.com/
After downloading , extract the files in the enu folder of Jaws.

Abdul
- Original Message - 
From: "govind reddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:47 AM
Subject: [AI] Help needed regarding the G Talk


> Hello every one,
> I thank every one who helped in knowing about the Rss Feeds.
> Could any one please tell me, can we access GTalk with Jaws? If so how,
> What are the applications which are used for text and voice chat, and can 
> be
> accessed with Jaws90.
> Any help in this regard will be highly rewarded, it's important.
> Warm regards,
> Govind.
> M: 9959392651.
> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>
> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus 
> signature database 3244 (20080705) __
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
> 


Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines

[Abdul Razique]

Ya,  thats correct but it is an exceptional case. If we can protect our ATM 
cards and credit cards, why cant we be careful about the seals. Infact, it 
is our responsibility to be careful about all these things. In my opinion, 
the choice should be given to the concerned person whether he/ she is 
comfortable with the seals or thumb prints. I have no intensions to offend 
anybody.

Abdul
- Original Message - 
From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


Well, I am still vary of seals, as they can be easily stolen, not only by
strangers, but also by ill-meaning family members. Several blind people in
India live with distant relatives who do not always keep the well-being of
the blind person in mind. I know of an instance where the relatives of a
blind bank employee regularly took away most of his earnings. Their
justification was that they took care of him.

In terms of security, thumb impression is probably better than a seal.

Geetha
- Original Message - 
From: "Manish Agrawal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


Did some googling to find out what others in the world do about this.
Affixing seals appears to be the favoured mechanism as per the following
discussion thread - with people from the US, Japan, China etc.:
http://www.washington.edu/doit/Newsletters/May06/16.html

Pasting below for people who have difficulty following the above link (BTW,
the below text doesn't look properly formatted on my machine...but this is
the best I could get):
 The Thread—Making Your Mark
--

by Sheryl Burgstahler , DO-IT Director


A DO-IT Mentor recently posed the following question within our Internet
discussion forum. I will share with you some of the responses so that you
can get the flavor of the many rich and informative conversations in our
DO-IT community.

*How do people, who physically have difficulty in using a pen, write their
signatures when they pay by check or credit card? Are there any useful
implements or alternative ways for them to do this?*

*DO-IT Mentor:* Using a debit card is one alternative. However, writing a
signature is still frequently asked for. I am not sure if we can escape from
it completely. However, in my country, Japan, signatures are not common.

We use seals (stamps) instead. People who cannot write usually ask somebody
else to stamp their seal for them and the result is the same whomever does
it. Keeping their own seal is a good proof.

I personally hope that writing signatures will become much simpler using
technology so that in the near future people can do this independently.
Electronic money has been a big theme in recent years, with the big question
being "how does one keep personal information secure?" Can I ask how this
signature challenge is coped with in the US today?

*DO-IT Mentor with Cerebral Palsy:* Years ago I "wrote" my signature on the
computer using CorelDRAW™ and my trackball, and then I had a stamp made of
it. Maybe 5% of the time people question the legality of it, but I have not
had too much trouble. When I don't have my stamp, I have someone print my
name and then they sign next to it with the word "by" followed by his/her
name.

*DO-IT Mentor who has no functional use of hands:* Something I should
mention about a signature stamp is that the person using it should have it
notarized to make it technically legal.

*'94 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of hands:* Speaking of a
signature stamp, I have one myself, and I love it. One thing that my bank
asked of me is to give them a copy of the stamped signature, which is just
for the safety for both me and them.

*'94 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of hands:* Also I forgot to
mention that my bank only accepted a signature stamp with my actual
signature. It could not be generated from a computer for security reasons.

*'99 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of hands:* I can hold a pen
for writing. It looks like a little child's writing. I also had a stamp
made, which can usually be done at any US office store.

*DO-IT Mentor:* I have a friend who is barely able to hold a pen. He just
signs an "x" where his signature is supposed to be. As long as store
employees see him do it, he hasn't had any problems.

*DO-IT Mentor with visual impairment:* One tool that can help, but is
usually associated with vision loss, is a signature guide. It helps contain
the signature in the correct position. It comes in paper, plastic, and metal
and is inexpensive.

There are also pens that have a fatter and rougher grip. Examples/sources
include:
http://www.maxiaids.com/
http://www.disabilitysupplies.co.uk/

Also check out sites like
http://www.msnewengland.org/msconnection/summer2002/assist.html

*'98 Scholar who is blind:* Thanks for describing signature guides. I was
going to comment on the s

Re: [AI] GTalk abdul,

[govind reddy]

Hello Abdul sir,
I'have downloaded the Jaws scripts for GTalk, but could please tell me how
to place in enu of Jaws, do you mean in C: drive
Warm regards,
Govind.
M: 9959392651.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] GTalk, abdul

[govind reddy]

Hello sir another doubt,
Do we have to paste these script files for jaws in even in Jaws90.
Warm regards,
Govind.
M: 9959392651.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] GTalk, abdul

[Abdul Razique]

You have to paste the G talk script files in the enu folder. You can access 
the folder by going to Start, Programs, Jaws 9.0, Explore Jaws, Explore my 
settings. Press enter and you will land in the enu folder. Thats it.

Abdul
- Original Message - 
From: "govind reddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] GTalk, abdul


> Hello sir another doubt,
> Do we have to paste these script files for jaws in even in Jaws90.
> Warm regards,
> Govind.
> M: 9959392651.
> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>
> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus 
> signature database 3244 (20080705) __
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
> 


Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] request for jaws script for google talk

[Ram Kumar]

-- 
With wishes, D, Ramkumar, PHD Scholar in English, Pondicherry
university (a central University). Mobile:  09952990192 home:  0413
3290383
 skipe name: ramkumarpondicherry  alternate email id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]







Dear accessindians, could any one of you  please send me the jaws
script for google talk? and also please guide me regarding how to
carry out  oral and aural chat  through google talk.

Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines

[Subramani L]

In my oppinion, biometrics systems seems to be the safest and the best
means of verification. Iris detection or thumb impression reading are
quite possible and isn't very expensive. In addition these can be used
for illiterate customers aw well. 

Subramani 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geetha
Shamanna
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:59 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines

Seals can be easily misused if stolen.


- Original Message - 
From: "Sanjay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


> What about seals?  I think, in UK, blind people  can have their own
seals
> for signature purposes.
>
>
>
> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n
> 


Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit:
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
please visit the list home page at
 
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
n

Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] Hello abdul sir,

[govind reddy]

Hello abdul sir,
I've downloaded the script files, but i'm unable to copy them, but they are
text files, so shall we copy all the files in to other files and paste them
in enu traing in jaws,
regards,
Govind.
M: 9959392651.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] GTalk abdul,

[Abdul Razique]

Oh please! dont call me sir. I'm an F Y student.
- Original Message - 
From: "govind reddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] GTalk abdul,


> Hello Abdul sir,
> I'have downloaded the Jaws scripts for GTalk, but could please tell me how
> to place in enu of Jaws, do you mean in C: drive
> Warm regards,
> Govind.
> M: 9959392651.
> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>
> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus 
> signature database 3244 (20080705) __
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
> 


Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] help needed regarding bluetooth and infrared.

[govind reddy]

Hello everyone,
Could any one please explain me what is the difference between bbluetooth
and infrared technologies?
Any help in this regard will be highly rewarded.
Warm regards,
Govind.
M: 9959392651.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines

[Harish Kotian]

Hi
Credit cards and ATM cards cannot be used just by possession of it. The same is 
not true with such seals.
Harish


- Original Message - 
From: "Abdul Razique" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


Ya,  thats correct but it is an exceptional case. If we can protect our ATM 
cards and credit cards, why cant we be careful about the seals. Infact, it 
is our responsibility to be careful about all these things. In my opinion, 
the choice should be given to the concerned person whether he/ she is 
comfortable with the seals or thumb prints. I have no intensions to offend 
anybody.

Abdul
- Original Message - 
From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


Well, I am still vary of seals, as they can be easily stolen, not only by
strangers, but also by ill-meaning family members. Several blind people in
India live with distant relatives who do not always keep the well-being of
the blind person in mind. I know of an instance where the relatives of a
blind bank employee regularly took away most of his earnings. Their
justification was that they took care of him.

In terms of security, thumb impression is probably better than a seal.

Geetha
- Original Message - 
From: "Manish Agrawal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


Did some googling to find out what others in the world do about this.
Affixing seals appears to be the favoured mechanism as per the following
discussion thread - with people from the US, Japan, China etc.:
http://www.washington.edu/doit/Newsletters/May06/16.html

Pasting below for people who have difficulty following the above link (BTW,
the below text doesn't look properly formatted on my machine...but this is
the best I could get):
 The Thread—Making Your Mark
--

by Sheryl Burgstahler , DO-IT Director


A DO-IT Mentor recently posed the following question within our Internet
discussion forum. I will share with you some of the responses so that you
can get the flavor of the many rich and informative conversations in our
DO-IT community.

*How do people, who physically have difficulty in using a pen, write their
signatures when they pay by check or credit card? Are there any useful
implements or alternative ways for them to do this?*

*DO-IT Mentor:* Using a debit card is one alternative. However, writing a
signature is still frequently asked for. I am not sure if we can escape from
it completely. However, in my country, Japan, signatures are not common.

We use seals (stamps) instead. People who cannot write usually ask somebody
else to stamp their seal for them and the result is the same whomever does
it. Keeping their own seal is a good proof.

I personally hope that writing signatures will become much simpler using
technology so that in the near future people can do this independently.
Electronic money has been a big theme in recent years, with the big question
being "how does one keep personal information secure?" Can I ask how this
signature challenge is coped with in the US today?

*DO-IT Mentor with Cerebral Palsy:* Years ago I "wrote" my signature on the
computer using CorelDRAW™ and my trackball, and then I had a stamp made of
it. Maybe 5% of the time people question the legality of it, but I have not
had too much trouble. When I don't have my stamp, I have someone print my
name and then they sign next to it with the word "by" followed by his/her
name.

*DO-IT Mentor who has no functional use of hands:* Something I should
mention about a signature stamp is that the person using it should have it
notarized to make it technically legal.

*'94 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of hands:* Speaking of a
signature stamp, I have one myself, and I love it. One thing that my bank
asked of me is to give them a copy of the stamped signature, which is just
for the safety for both me and them.

*'94 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of hands:* Also I forgot to
mention that my bank only accepted a signature stamp with my actual
signature. It could not be generated from a computer for security reasons.

*'99 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of hands:* I can hold a pen
for writing. It looks like a little child's writing. I also had a stamp
made, which can usually be done at any US office store.

*DO-IT Mentor:* I have a friend who is barely able to hold a pen. He just
signs an "x" where his signature is supposed to be. As long as store
employees see him do it, he hasn't had any problems.

*DO-IT Mentor with visual impairment:* One tool that can help, but is
usually associated with vision loss, is a signature guide. It helps contain
the signature in the correct position. It comes in paper, plastic, and metal
and is inexpensive.

There are also pens that hav

Re: [AI] Hello abdul sir,

[palakodeti venkata satya vijay kumar]

After downloading the scripts please unzip the files to a new folder.
Then copy all files from this folder and paste these files in "enu"
folder.

With warm regards
VIJAY


-- 
"donate eyes and live twice"

Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines

[Ashwani]

Hi friends
As I suggested earlier Biometric system is the best thing. We should 
strongly place this suggestion in front of Bank as well as IBA.
- Original Message - 
From: "Pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


> The problem at present is not of whether a phone call is too much for us 
> or
> not but of our security.
> As Harish suggested I am not putting the phone call into the guidelines 
> but
> leaving it as it is.
> The only question is should we suggest that our cheques should be attested
> or not. If not we can leave it until the IBA suggests it and then discuss
> it. If the IBA does not suggest anything then we can insist that the Banks
> must expedite for Biometric verification.
>
> Kanchan Pamnani
> Advocate & Solicitor
> 9, Suleman Chambers,
> Battery Street, Colaba,
> Mumbai - 400 039.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines
>
>
>> Though this sounds practical and salutary, knowing the tendencies of the
>> bank officials, they may not want to accept the new phone verification.
>> Also, it may not be possible for us to answer the phone all the time and
>> thus may lead to delay.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines
>>
>>
>>> Hi Rajesh
>>>
>>> This will be like signing all the cheque leaves and expecting the blind
>>> person to take care of it. Would any able bodied person accept such a
>>> situation? This will certainly be unacceptable. Besides, it won't give
>>> any
>>> security to the banks as the blind customer is forced into a situation
>>> which is intrensically liable for cheating. This would be a very bad
>>> guidelines.
>>>
>>> A more sensible approach which will provide both security and comfort
>>> both
>>> to the customer and the blind is that the bank may seek confirmation by
>>> phone whenever they have doubt about the genuineness of the signature on
>>> the instrument.
>>>
>>> If the customer has high volume of cheque use then the banker knows the
>>> patterns of change of signature and can use the phone option when in
>>> need.
>>> If the volume is low, anyway it should not be a big financial drain.
>>>
>>> This can be a prudent practise and this should not go as guidelines. Now
>>> a
>>> days insisting of carrying a phone is not a big deal.
>>>
>>> I understand, Some banks are already exercising this option.
>>>
>>> So, in the guidelines, we can leave it to the banks to draw their own
>>> safeguards.
>>>
>>> This could be one option, there could be more and we can keep room for
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Harish.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Rajesh Asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines
>>>
>>>
 Worries in attestation clause are two:

 1. risk of theft and misuse;

 It can be easily tackled by safe custody which is the responsibility of
 customer anyway when it comes to credit card etc. and issuing stop
 payment instruction immediately upon such an occurrence.

 It should be weighed against forgery which would be prevented
 effectively
 by attestation clause and ease in passing cheques by bank officials
 without leniency etc.

 2. Something enterim becoming permanent in India.

 Well, it is the fault of system, and biometric technology may take much
 longer to be universally installed and used than is being envisaged
 here.
 And, even if a beneficial measure is firmly entrenched, we may 
 gradually
 drag it out in favor of ease of other technology which will be
 eventually
 realized by one and all. Many detrimental practices have gained firm
 ground in indian system, many enterim measures like reservations for
 Certain casts have become "basic structure" of polity, so to say! So
 even
 if attestation becomes firmly rooted, at least it is not going to harm
 us. I am sure biometric technology would eventually phase it out.

 To sum up, twin advantages of preventing forgery by combating
 inconsistency of signature and relieving bankers of unnecessary anxiety
 about accounts of VI, do outway harms of possible theft and permanence
 of
 practice which may be forestalled by stop payment instructions in first
 case and enlightened petitions in later. Forgery on one hand is clearly
 liability of bankers from which they endeavor to save their skin and
 largely undetectable unless it has already caused damage, unlike theft
 which comes to notice of owner easily and with preventable damage.

 Rest I leave to you all, but please do not misinterpret me or assume
 that
 I merely write for semantic jugglery and merit only 

[AI] Google launches privacy link to quiet critics

[renuka warriar]

The Hindu News Update Service
default/empty  
News Update Service
Sunday, July 6, 2008 : 1120 Hrs   
Sci. & Tech.
Google launches privacy link to quiet critics 

LOS ANGELES (Xinhua): Internet search giant Google announced at the weekend its 
privacy link decision on its corporate blog and public policy blog to make
peace with privacy advocates, The Los Angeles Times reported on Saturday. 

The link was not cluttering its famously sparse home page, according to the 
announcement. 

Google launched the privacy link while privacy advocates were distracted by 
another Google issue: a New York judge's order for the company to hand over
information about YouTube videos and users to media giant Viacom as part of 
their copyright dispute. 

The search giant had drawn criticism over its refusal to include a link to its 
privacy policy on Google.com. Some groups said that was a violation of 
California
law. The company said then that it didn't think the link was necessary because 
its privacy policy was "readily accessible" to those looking for it. It
could be found, among other places, on its About page, which was linked from 
Google.com. 

Google Vice President Marissa Mayer said founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin 
had told her that she could add "Privacy" to the home page, but only if she
subtracted another word to keep the word count on Google.com. So the company 
removed "Google" from the copyright line at the bottom of its home page and
added "Privacy." So ends the minor tussle over valuable real estate: Google's 
home page. Privacy advocates get their link, and Google's top executives
get to keep their home page clean. 

Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines

[Roopakshi Pathania]

Hi,

It would be nice if eather of the solutions is implimented. It would be even 
better if an option is given to chose between the 2. 

My objective is to provide an alternative option.
I list here some of the possible advantages of using a seal or what is also 
known as a signature stamp as an alternative option to the biometric system.

Before I do that, I urge you to read this article:
http://rnib.org/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_here0604making.hcsp.

1. A seal or a signature stamp is a low-tech solution. As a result, it could be 
used in rural and semi-urben areas with ease. Banks in these areas do not 
operate with many computers and the employees are often not computer literate. 
My suggestion is based on Occam's Razor principle: "All other things being 
equal, the simplest solution is the best."

2. Decisions are often guided by the availability of resources. Seals or 
signature stamps do not involve any cost, eather for instaling a software or 
training employees for the same. 

3. This is my personal preference so it may not hold alot of weight. But, 
generally, I would not like my thumb to be in various shades of black and blue, 
especially while applying a thumbprint in public places.
What about those who are self-emploied? They are required to send alot of 
checks. I imagine that it is not comfortable constently blackening ones thumb.

To conclude, the decision ultimately depends on the IBA. As long as a feasible 
solution is implimented, the benefits are going to be immense

Regards
--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Manish Agrawal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Manish Agrawal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 11:16 AM
> Did some googling to find out what others in the world do
> about this.
> Affixing seals appears to be the favoured mechanism as per
> the following
> discussion thread - with people from the US, Japan, China
> etc.:
> http://www.washington.edu/doit/Newsletters/May06/16.html
> 
> Pasting below for people who have difficulty following the
> above link (BTW,
> the below text doesn't look properly formatted on my
> machine...but this is
> the best I could get):
>  The Thread—Making Your Mark
> --
> 
> by Sheryl Burgstahler
> , DO-IT
> Director
> 
> 
> A DO-IT Mentor recently posed the following question within
> our Internet
> discussion forum. I will share with you some of the
> responses so that you
> can get the flavor of the many rich and informative
> conversations in our
> DO-IT community.
> 
> *How do people, who physically have difficulty in using a
> pen, write their
> signatures when they pay by check or credit card? Are there
> any useful
> implements or alternative ways for them to do this?*
> 
> *DO-IT Mentor:* Using a debit card is one alternative.
> However, writing a
> signature is still frequently asked for. I am not sure if
> we can escape from
> it completely. However, in my country, Japan, signatures
> are not common.
> 
> We use seals (stamps) instead. People who cannot write
> usually ask somebody
> else to stamp their seal for them and the result is the
> same whomever does
> it. Keeping their own seal is a good proof.
> 
> I personally hope that writing signatures will become much
> simpler using
> technology so that in the near future people can do this
> independently.
> Electronic money has been a big theme in recent years, with
> the big question
> being "how does one keep personal information
> secure?" Can I ask how this
> signature challenge is coped with in the US today?
> 
> *DO-IT Mentor with Cerebral Palsy:* Years ago I
> "wrote" my signature on the
> computer using CorelDRAW™ and my trackball, and then I
> had a stamp made of
> it. Maybe 5% of the time people question the legality of
> it, but I have not
> had too much trouble. When I don't have my stamp, I
> have someone print my
> name and then they sign next to it with the word
> "by" followed by his/her
> name.
> 
> *DO-IT Mentor who has no functional use of hands:*
> Something I should
> mention about a signature stamp is that the person using it
> should have it
> notarized to make it technically legal.
> 
> *'94 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of
> hands:* Speaking of a
> signature stamp, I have one myself, and I love it. One
> thing that my bank
> asked of me is to give them a copy of the stamped
> signature, which is just
> for the safety for both me and them.
> 
> *'94 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of
> hands:* Also I forgot to
> mention that my bank only accepted a signature stamp with
> my actual
> signature. It could not be generated from a computer for
> security reasons.
> 
> *'99 DO-IT Scholar with limited functional use of
> hands:* I can hold a pen
> for writing. It looks like a little child's writing. I
> also had a stamp
> made, which can usually be done at any US office store.
> 
> *D

Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines

[phani srikanth]

hi, as i openianed earlier security is the hole responsibility of a
blind person. when we are asking for all fascilities it is our
responsibility to look that they are not misused. even in the case of
debit or credit cards if we know the CVV number which is on the back
of all cards and date of expiry and name of the card holder which are
printed on the card itself, we can make any number of transactions
online over any murchant websights. except for some visa varification
cards and cards of city bank no bank in india does not ask for any pin
number for making transactions online. in the same way seels too. it
is our hole responsibility to see that they are properly stored. just
as we give instructions for  card blocking,  we can give seel blocking
instructions as they will be provided by banks only with unique codes
in case they are stolen.
by any way bio-metric system is always good, but as all of we know it
takes longer time to get them installed across all parts of our
country may be years for banking system to implement it across each
and every corner.


my intentions are not to criticise any one here, but i am sharing my openian.
srikanth

On 7/7/08, Ashwani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi friends
> As I suggested earlier Biometric system is the best thing. We should
> strongly place this suggestion in front of Bank as well as IBA.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 1:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines
>
>
>> The problem at present is not of whether a phone call is too much for us
>> or
>> not but of our security.
>> As Harish suggested I am not putting the phone call into the guidelines
>> but
>> leaving it as it is.
>> The only question is should we suggest that our cheques should be attested
>> or not. If not we can leave it until the IBA suggests it and then discuss
>> it. If the IBA does not suggest anything then we can insist that the Banks
>> must expedite for Biometric verification.
>>
>> Kanchan Pamnani
>> Advocate & Solicitor
>> 9, Suleman Chambers,
>> Battery Street, Colaba,
>> Mumbai - 400 039.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines
>>
>>
>>> Though this sounds practical and salutary, knowing the tendencies of the
>>> bank officials, they may not want to accept the new phone verification.
>>> Also, it may not be possible for us to answer the phone all the time and
>>> thus may lead to delay.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines
>>>
>>>
 Hi Rajesh

 This will be like signing all the cheque leaves and expecting the blind
 person to take care of it. Would any able bodied person accept such a
 situation? This will certainly be unacceptable. Besides, it won't give
 any
 security to the banks as the blind customer is forced into a situation
 which is intrensically liable for cheating. This would be a very bad
 guidelines.

 A more sensible approach which will provide both security and comfort
 both
 to the customer and the blind is that the bank may seek confirmation by
 phone whenever they have doubt about the genuineness of the signature on
 the instrument.

 If the customer has high volume of cheque use then the banker knows the
 patterns of change of signature and can use the phone option when in
 need.
 If the volume is low, anyway it should not be a big financial drain.

 This can be a prudent practise and this should not go as guidelines. Now
 a
 days insisting of carrying a phone is not a big deal.

 I understand, Some banks are already exercising this option.

 So, in the guidelines, we can leave it to the banks to draw their own
 safeguards.

 This could be one option, there could be more and we can keep room for
 it.

 Harish.

 - Original Message -
 From: "Rajesh Asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


> Worries in attestation clause are two:
>
> 1. risk of theft and misuse;
>
> It can be easily tackled by safe custody which is the responsibility of
> customer anyway when it comes to credit card etc. and issuing stop
> payment instruction immediately upon such an occurrence.
>
> It should be weighed against forgery which would be prevented
> effectively
> by attestation clause and ease in passing cheques by bank officials
> without leniency etc.
>
> 2. Something enterim becoming permanent in India.
>
> Well, it is the fault of system, and biometric technology may take much
> longer to be universally installed and used than is being envisag

[AI] Book Request

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear friends,

This is especially for our MBA friends:  Would appreciate if anyone could share 
the book "marketing Management" by Philip Kotler.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] some out standing blind persons in india

[amritpal singh]

One more name should be added in this list. Popular music director Sonik Of 
Sonik and Omi was also a blind person. Though we know him as a good music 
director but to my knowledge, he was one of the greatest and finest arrangers 
of 
film industry. He was arranging music for Madan Mohan and Raushan and also at 
the same time for  Usha Khanna, too.
a.p. Singh
mobile +919466171532
- Original Message - 
From: "dr.u.n.sinha narain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] some out standing blind persons in india


>I take a liberty to write the names. please find their history.
> Dr. Sadhan Gupta Calcutta,  Dr. R.T. Vyas  Mumbai, Ram Agarwal, Dr.
> Rakesh Jain, Dr. Aruni Sharma, Mr. S.k Rungata, Mrs Pamnani, Mrs.
> Taran kaur, Mr. Mahendra Kumar Rastogi, Dr. V.P. Verma, Mr. Anmol
> Krishna Sharma Lucknow, Dr. Veda Mehta and mr. Ravindra Jain. these
> are some of the names who are on my finger tips but there are more
> like anil ahuja, Prof. Mittal Mr. Jnuma Prasad Shastri.
> regards
> drun
>
> On 7/5/08, firoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> vimal i could not able to write mail to your e mail i.d.
>>
>> four times i tried but failed
>>
>> mail are rejected
>>
>> can you write me mail on
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> msn
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> skype
>>
>> firojjee
>>
>> last sunday we talked on phone  about your project
>>
>> i would like to take part in it
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> firoz
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "vimaldengla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:50 PM
>> Subject: [AI] some out standing blind persons in india
>>
>>
>>> dear friends,
>>> I need the brief history of some of the outstanding blind achievers in
>>> India, who have got the respectable place in society and in their working
>>> areas? please send me the brief history of some blind persons or tell me
>>> how to get it?
>>>
>>> with regards
>>> vimal dengla
>>> mob. 9414244549
>>> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit:
>>> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> with the subject unsubscribe.
>>>
>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
>>> please visit the list home page at
>>>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>>>
>>
>>
>> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit:
>> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>>
>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
>> the subject unsubscribe.
>>
>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please
>> visit the list home page at
>>   http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>>
>
>
> -- 
> u.n.sinha
>
> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 
> the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
> visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>
> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature 
> database 3133 (20080526) __
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
> 


Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines

[firoz]

even we can ask for seal and thumb impression both


like atm card and pinnumber

firoz
- Original Message - 
From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines


> In my oppinion, biometrics systems seems to be the safest and the best
> means of verification. Iris detection or thumb impression reading are
> quite possible and isn't very expensive. In addition these can be used
> for illiterate customers aw well.
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geetha
> Shamanna
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:59 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines
>
> Seals can be easily misused if stolen.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sanjay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Guidelines
>
>
>> What about seals?  I think, in UK, blind people  can have their own
> seals
>> for signature purposes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit:
>> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>>
>> To unsubscribe send a message to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> with the subject unsubscribe.
>>
>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
>> please visit the list home page at
>>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
> n
>>
>
>
> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit:
> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> please visit the list home page at
>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i
> n
>
> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in 


Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] Good news for bank of India customers, use BOI STAR ePay Service.

[Amjad Ahmed Fitwala]

BOI STAR ePAY
BOI STAR ePay - is a useful service that provides you a single point of contact 
for all your payment needs.
At BOI STAR ePay you can pay your bills and make other payments online. Instead 
of writing a cheque each time, now you can use any device connected to the
Internet (computer, kiosk, etc) and make payments with the click of a mouse.
no more late payments
no more queues
no more hassles of depositing cheques
In effect, through BOI STAR ePay you can now make All Your Payments at a Single 
Location, anytime you wish to.
Click here
to see the list of Billers available in your city.
You can also download and fill up the
BOI STAR ePay Application Form
and submit the Form to your Bank of India bank branch. We will add your Billers 
for payment through BOI STAR ePay.
For more information about BOI STAR ePay and how to get started,
Click here.
Currently BOI STAR ePay is available in the cities of Ahmedabad, Bangalore, 
Bhopal, Chennai, Delhi, Hyderabad, Indore, Kolkata, Mumbai, Pune, Surat, 
Trivandrum,
Chandigarh and Lucknow.
Register for BOI STAR ePay- submit completed forms at your Bank of India bank 
branch.
Download Registration Form
  
 


  __
Not happy with your email address?.
Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at 
Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] FW: [j-say list] Demonstration of J-Say Pro 6.1

[Pranav Lal]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Hartgen
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [j-say list] Demonstration of J-Say Pro 6.1

Hi

Before anyone asks me when will J-Say Pro 6.1 be available, let me say
now that very soon we will post information about that and thank you to
everyone who has been patiently waiting for it.  But for the time being
to get you interested, here is a unique presentation demonstrating J-Say
Pro 6.1 prepared by Sue Martin, one of our beta testers and co-author of
the newly expanded J-Say tutorial. The presentation is unique because
this is a visual and audio presentation.  As Sue demonstrates the new
software, visually it is possible to see the computer screen contents.

Within Main Menu earlier this month, we publicly talked about all the
upcoming features of J-say Pro 6.1 and so if you want to ask our beta
testers any questions about the features, please do.  But for now, here
is the link to the presentation:
www.tandt-consultancy.com/sounds/SueMartinJSayDemo.wmv

enjoy!

Brian Hartgen
Product Development Manager

T&T Consultancy Ltd
Advantage House
Trentham Business Quarter
Stanley Mathews Way
Stoke-On-Trent
ST4 8GQ

Tel: 01782644141
Fax:  01782 664856
Web Site, www.tandt-consultancy.com

NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is
confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended
recipient you are hereby notified that you must not use, disclose,
distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail's content. If you are not
the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and then
delete the email and any attachments from your system. T&T Consultancy
Ltd have made strenuous efforts to ensure that emails and any
attachments generated by its staff are free from viruses. However, it
cannot accept any responsibility for any viruses which are transmitted.
We therefore recommend you scan all received e-mail messages.
Registered in England No. 4098268

 





Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] Another doubt regarding yahoo messenger

[govind reddy]

Hi every one,
Do we have to copy and paste the script for yahoo messenger to use it?
Warm regards,
Govind.
M: 9959392651.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] goodnews, but Small doubt regarding chatting in GTalk.

[govind reddy]

Hello everyone ,
I'm done with my problem of Gtalk, but can you please tell me how to open
chat window in GTalk?
Regards,
Govind.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] A suggestion on cheque issue...

[leds]

Dear friends,
I have a suggestion. The RBI can issue a sticker,for visually challenged. The 
bank can put their signature/seal and date of issue of cheque leafs. These 
stickers can be issued to the client together with the cheque book. The 
visually challenged client can stick this sticker on back side of the cheque 
leaf,so that faque cheques can be traced by the bank by verifying the 
attested/dated sticker. Pl. bare with me if the above suggestion is  stupid.
regards
Prasanna Kumar.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] goodnews, but Small doubt regarding chatting in GTalk.

[phani srikanth]

hit enter on the contact name in the contact list. just type the
message and enter again thats it

On 7/7/08, govind reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone ,
> I'm done with my problem of Gtalk, but can you please tell me how to open
> chat window in GTalk?
> Regards,
> Govind.
> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit:
> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
> the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please
> visit the list home page at
>   http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>

Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] Another doubt regarding yahoo messenger

[Abdul Razique]

There's no need of any scripts for Yahoo Messenger if you are using Jaws 9 
with Yahoo Messenger 8 or Jaws 8 with Yahoo Messenger 7.
- Original Message - 
From: "govind reddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:05 AM
Subject: [AI] Another doubt regarding yahoo messenger


> Hi every one,
> Do we have to copy and paste the script for yahoo messenger to use it?
> Warm regards,
> Govind.
> M: 9959392651.
> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>
> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus 
> signature database 3244 (20080705) __
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
> 


Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] How to format charts in excel?

[Suresh Sambandhan]

Dear friends,

I have to prepare chart in excel.  I can create chart but not able to format 
it.  Kindly help me.

I can select the chart with control shift O.  Since JAWS reads it from virtual 
viewer I'm not able to format the chart.  

Thanking you in advance.

Regards
Suresh

DISCLAIMER:
---

The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended 
for the named recipient(s) only. 
It shall not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. 
Any views or opinions presented in 
this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the 
opinions of HCL or its affiliates. 
Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, 
distribution and / or publication of 
this message without the prior written consent of the author of this e-mail is 
strictly prohibited. If you have 
received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender 
immediately. Before opening any mail and 
attachments please check them for viruses and defect.

---

Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] Jobs at NIVH.....

[Amit Bhatt]

Jobs at NIVH July98

National Institute for Visually Handicapped (NIVH)
(Under Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment, Govt. of India)
116, Rajpur Road, Dehradun - 248001

Applications are invited from the eligible candidates for filling up the 
following posts to. Applications should reach the Director of the Centre at the
above address within 15 days of publication of the advertisement giving full 
particulars including Name, Father's name, Address, Date of Birth, 
Qualifications,
Experience, Telephone No., Whether SC/ST/OBC/PH/Ex-Serviceman and any other 
relevant information.
List of 11 items
1. Deputy director (Administration) : 01 post (UR)
2. Civil Engineer : 01 post (UR)
3. Orientation & Mobilitiy Educator : 01 post (UR)
4. TGT (Hindi) : 01 (PH)
5. Catering Assistant : 01 (OBC)
6. Storekeeper : 01 post (OBC)
7. Technician Gr. II : 01 post (OBC- PH)
8. Project Consultant Braille Books : 01 post (UR)
9. Research Assistant : 01 post (OBC)
10. Information Technology and Assistant Technology Educator : 01 post (UR)
11. Field Worker cum Record Keeper : 01 post (UR)
list end

Applications must invariably be accompanied with attested copies of 
certificates, degrees, mark-sheets and testimonials in support of 
qualification, age,
experience. Age relaxation as per Govt. of India rules.

Please download
http://governmentjob.googlepages.com/nivhJuly08.jpg
for details.


Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] help required installing ubuntu virtion 8

[phani srikanth]

hi, i got the latest ubuntu linux 8 virtion which is a 64 bit
operating system. can it be installed indipendently with out the help
of a sighted person. if so plg guide me how to do that step by step.
i came to know of this through from one of the members of our list
itself that it can be installed indipendently in previous
conversations a few days ago.

any help is highly appriciated.
thanks in advance
srikanth

Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] help needed regarding bluetooth and infrared.

[vijay prakash]

difference between bbluetooth and infrared technologies is speed 


--- On Sun, 6/7/08, govind reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: govind reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] help needed regarding bluetooth and infrared.
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Date: Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 2:28 PM

Hello everyone,
Could any one please explain me what is the difference between bbluetooth
and infrared technologies?
Any help in this regard will be highly rewarded.
Warm regards,
Govind.
M: 9959392651.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit:
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


  Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to 
http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] help needed regarding bluetooth and infrared.

[Zujar Kanchwala]

Also, in case of InfraRed connection, the two communicating devices need to be 
in direct contact. Any obstacle in between the two may disrupt the connection. 
This is not the case with BlueTooth, in which case, the communicating devices 
may be kept a little apart from one another (probably a distance of 20 - 30 
feet irrespective of any obstacles).


On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 vijay prakash wrote :
>difference between bbluetooth and infrared technologies is speed
>
>
>--- On Sun, 6/7/08, govind reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: govind reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [AI] help needed regarding bluetooth and infrared.
>To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>Date: Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 2:28 PM
>
>Hello everyone,
>Could any one please explain me what is the difference between bbluetooth
>and infrared technologies?
>Any help in this regard will be highly rewarded.
>Warm regards,
>Govind.
>M: 9959392651.
>Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit:
>http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
>To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
>the subject unsubscribe.
>
>To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please
>visit the list home page at
>   http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>
>
>   Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to 
> http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/
>Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
>http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
>To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject 
>unsubscribe.
>
>To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
>visit the list home page at
>   http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Best Regards...

Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala
SSE, MPHASIS,
Hello on 9224429816.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

[AI] bank guidelines

[Rajesh Asudani]

By now, I am certain that my suggestion of attestation would not be 
incorporated in the guidelines.

As a post script, I would like to observe as follows:

1. We are too eager to appear as if we are not at all different from five 
sensed and affluent human beings. Let me remind one and all that a visually 
challenged person is not a five sensed and affluent animal.

2. We are utterly unwilling to take any responsibility and merely insist upon 
enjoying rights in a way which should not be any different from five sensed and 
affluent.

3.  We would better be at the mercy of various banks till we advance into 
high-tech era of biometric identification, which I challenge anybody to witness 
fully before July 6, next year. I.E. within a year.

4. We are willing to afix seals in pale immitation of so-called developed 
countries which involves greater procedural formalities and hastle upon loss 
and incorporation of legal provisions imparting validity to such seals and 
tallying the number of seal on the cheque for clearing it etc. etc.,   tbut 
abhor the simple suggestion of attestation by bank official as it would be 
unacceptable and no able bodied would like the suggestion. It would be far far 
easier to obtain a different seal and notify the bankers than stop payment 
instructions and obtaining different cheque book upon theft of it!!

5. Telephonic confirmation is only for high value cheques and expecting Indians 
to use it for VH in all cases would be done who has not even elementary 
knowledge of Human psyche. Requiring blind person to be computer literate and 
having access to net for issuing a cheque is another piece of elitism.

Thanks a lot for churning your thoughts up but I am amazed as our thoughts are 
only for ourselves and ourselves without fully realizing the liabilities and 
difficulties of other parties.





Notice: The information contained in this e-mail
message and/or attachments to it may contain
confidential or privileged information. If you are
not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use,
review, distribution, printing or copying of the
information contained in this e-mail message
and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If
you have received this communication in error,
please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and
immediately and permanently delete the message
and any attachments. Thank you
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] any source for tulsi and valmiki ramayana in Mp3 or other format?

[Chetan Sharma]

Well,is there any source on the world wide web  from where one can get tulsi 
and valmiki Ramayana in MP3 format?

  Regards,

- Original Message - 
From: "renuka warriar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:44 AM
Subject: [AI] Replay the Ramayana on this phone


>
>
> Date:06/07/2008 URL: 
> http://www.thehindu.com/2008/07/06/stories/2008070651391100.htm
>
>
> National
>
> Replay the Ramayana on this phone
>
> Special Correspondent
>
> Sagem-Bleu mobile has 75 minutes of video from 1980s serial
>
> - Photo: Special Arrangement
>
> Culture mobile: Sagem-Bleu's 466X Ramayana phone.
>
> Bangalore: It claimed a world record as the most-viewed mythology serial 
> on TV and it riveted Indian audiences for 18 months in 1987 -88.
>
> Now a new handset launched in India by the French mobile phone maker 
> Sagem - the Bleu 466X - comes pre-installed with 75 minutes of video 
> edited from the
> 45 hours of the original 78-instalment Ramanand Sagar series, 'Ramayana,' 
> by his son Prem Sagar.
>
> Devotional songs and slokas
>
> The content was enabled by Sagem's India distributor, Pratham, who has 
> also included another two hours of devotional songs and slokas enhanced 
> with animation.
>
> Music player
>
> The Rs. 4199 phone includes a music player, an FM radio on speakerphone, 
> Bluetooth connectivity, a VGA-quality camera and a video recording 
> feature.
>
> A free 512 MB data card is also being offered as part of the launch.
> Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with the subject unsubscribe.
>
> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, 
> please visit the list home page at
>  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> 



Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] How to format charts in excel?

[Zujar Kanchwala]

Hi,

You can access the chart using the CTRL+SHIFT+O JAWS keystroke. After placing 
focus on a chart, generally a Chart toolbar appears on the screen which may or 
may not be aligned with the other toolbars. You can access this toolbar using 
the same method as we do for accessing other toolbars. Here's the method handy 
for you:

1. Press ALT key to access the menu bar.
2. Press CTRL+TAB as many times required to access the desired toolbar.

Note: If you don't find the Chart toolbar and return back to the menu bar in 
Step 2, the Chart toolbar isn't present on the screen. It may be due to the 
focus not on a chart or any customization in the Tools -> Customize dialog box. 
If you are sure that the focus is on a chart object, check the View menu > 
Toolbars > Chart option and check it if not.

Once you are on the Chart toolbar, the Chart Objects combo box is the first 
tool and offers you the following options:

Chart Area
Chart Title
Legend
Plot Area
Value Axis
Value Axis Major Gridlines
Value AxisTitle
Series ""
Series ""

Select the desired chart object and press TAB to move to Format  
button in the Chart toolbar. Activating this button presents you with a dialog 
box that helps you format select chart object.

There are more buttons on the Chart toolbar that you may explore to format your 
charts the way you want.

The text enclosed in angular brackets be substituted with actual text depending 
on your selection or data.

Hope this proves helpful!

Feel free to write to me in case you have queries.

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 Suresh Sambandhan wrote :
>
>Dear friends,
>
>I have to prepare chart in excel.  I can create chart but not able to format 
>it.  Kindly help me.
>
>I can select the chart with control shift O.  Since JAWS reads it from virtual 
>viewer I'm not able to format the chart.
>
>Thanking you in advance.
>
>Regards
>Suresh
>
>DISCLAIMER:
>---
>
>The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and 
>intended for the named recipient(s) only.
>It shall not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. 
>Any views or opinions presented in
>this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the 
>opinions of HCL or its affiliates.
>Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, 
>distribution and / or publication of
>this message without the prior written consent of the author of this e-mail is 
>strictly prohibited. If you have
>received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender 
>immediately. Before opening any mail and
>attachments please check them for viruses and defect.
>
>---
>
>Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
>http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
>
>To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject 
>unsubscribe.
>
>To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
>visit the list home page at
>   http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Best Regards...

Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala
SSE, MPHASIS,
Hello on 9224429816.
Join Access India convention: For updates on it visit: 
http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
  http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in