Re: [AI] DAISY books

2009-03-02 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Hello,

Where does your friend stay? NAB Delhi has prepared some daisy books in
Hindi. Some other organisations also have daisy books in Hindi. The NAB
books are quite good. I have seen some of them in the library of Blind
Persons' Association in Kolkata.

Best regards,

Amiyo Biswas.

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Skype ID: amiyo11
- Original Message -
From: "Sanjay" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:06 AM
Subject: [AI] DAISY books


> Friends,
> One of my friend does not know English nor he is computer literate.  He is
> interested in reading Hindi books and magazines preferably in mp3 or daisy
> format as he has a cd player at home.  Therefore, I would like to know is
> there any institute/library  which can deliver cd's of hindi books and
> magazines for blind by post?  Let me pass on the contact details to him.
>
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Re: [AI] Member's Gender.

2009-03-02 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Hello,

I have changed the subject line for focussing on the last thread. First, let
me tell you that I am a man. Names may be confusing at times. Names like
Kiran and Kanchan may be both male and female names in India. It depends on
the language and custom of the particular region.

As far as my name is concerned, if I spell my name as Amiya, it becomes
equivalent for both male and female names in Bengali. So I always spell it
as Amiyo. Amarjit in Bengali sounds a male name. So, she must not be
offended if somebody is confused, and I am sure, she is not. I have seen
that Punjabi people do not distinguish between male and female names. We,
Bengali people, are used to calling girls by names ending with an "aa" or
with an "ee" sound. I appreciate the Sikh Punjabi tradition of using same
type of names for boys and girls and indicating a girl's name with a "Kaur".


Best regards,

Amiyo Biswas.

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- Original Message -
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link


> Hi Ms Amarjit - thanks for this reply. Even it is very difficult for me
also
> to understand who is male and who is female here. So, I will humbly
request
> to everybody to please mention your gender. I don't think that this is off
> topic because knowing the genders of our friends is necessary. I am a
male.
> By the way mam, 3 3 cousin sisters of the same name in a single family and
> that too of a male name (Amarjit) really makes it extremely curious!! With
> best wishes, Shadab Husain
>
> Easy tips of improving English at
> http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/
>
> My contributions to the press
>
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#lin
k
>
> Many posts on one page
>
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00
-08%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=47
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Amarjit Powar" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
>
>
> One of the greatest challanges in the pool of East Indian names is that
it's
> very difficult to distinguish the gender of a person just from the name as
> most names nowadays are becoming unisex.  For instance, I've two female
> cousins who too go by my first name.  To  add to the agony, south Indian
> mames, no disrespect to my
> brethren,are even more difficult to attach to a gender.  They are hard
> enough even for JAWS to pronounce let alone distinguish the gender.  ha
ha!
>
> Had Ms  Sharma not introduced herself as a female, I too might have been
> compelled to assume her to be a he.
> Amarjit
> - Original Message -
> From: "vibhu sharma" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
>
>
> Dear Mr. surya
>
> Thanks for your guidance. Now I can download the latest version of
gutenburg
> by the steps guided by your good-self.
>
> I am sorry, if I sound rude, but let this be a reminder to all our friends
> at Access India and an introduction to you, being a new member that I am
not
> Mister (Mr). I am a female.
>
> Thanks and regards
> Vibhu
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 28/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:
>
> From: surya narayana 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
> To: vibhusharm...@yahoo.co.in
> Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 5:04 PM
>
> Mr. Sharma,
> K1000 is software used for our purpose. But it contains the feature of
> searching for literature andbooks and magazines with the help of some
> other websites like Gutenburg. We can make use of them at free of
> cost.Good luck,Surya.
>
> On 2/28/09, vibhu sharma  wrote:
> > Dear Mr. Surya
> >
> > Thanks for answering my query and allowing me to take further assistance
> > from your good-self in case of a doubt.
> >
> > Acctually, Gutenburg, is a website providing e-books. What I request you
> to
> > please explain is how is it related to kurzwiel 1000? I can always
install
> > the software to my computer and make its use as guided by your
good-self.
> > But please explain me the relation between the two so as to enhance my
> > knowledge and making it easy for me to download the latest gutenburg
> > version.
> >
> > Thanks once again for your guidance
> > With best regards
> > Vibhu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 28/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:
> >
> > From: surya narayana 
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
> > To: vibhusharm...@yahoo.co.in, accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 2:29 PM
> >
> > Hello sharma,
> > If kurzwiel 1000 is installed on your system, You should go to online
> > submenu then open it. Press enter when you hear updates. After
> > sometime, you will be pr

Re: [AI] Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and Evolvingdirections'

2009-03-02 Thread Subramani L
No I was under the impression that the government not recognising
blindness as a form of disability has been having some sort of adverse
effect. If this is just the question of preferring one terminology for
the other, then I guess it's fine. 

Subramani 



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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit
Powar
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:48 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re:
[AI]Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenge
s and Evolvingdirections'

Hi Subramani,
Well, for  the very reason these were employable people in the eyes of
the 
government.  Who wouldn't want to work if, other than your vision, your 
other bodily parts are working well?  We've to accept it as a fact that 
blind are not disabled but have some limitations.  We have the
handibuses 
that come and pick you up and drop you in your doorway.  So, what are
the 
reasons that a blind person won't want to work?  After all, all that 
technology was totally paid for if not just subsidized.  And, in the end
you 
end up making more money than what the government was paying you.
Amarjit

- Original Message - 
From: "Subramani L" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] 
Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges
and 
Evolvingdirections'


> But usually lobbiests are very strong in your country isn't it? Then
why
> didn't they step in to protest against the Alberta government?
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit
> Powar
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:39 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Two-dayNational
> Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and
> Evolvingdirections'
>
> Hi  Harish bhai,
> Technically speaking, we do not have the term as handicapped in Canada
> anymore.  It  was long fazed-out because it had a  negative conotation
> and
> was replaced by the more user-friendly term as disabled.  It
encompasses
> all
> sorts of disabilities and physical disabilities but excludes visual
> disability or blindness.  We  are disabled here if we have a  physical
> disability.  and visually disabled or visually disadvantaged when we
> define
> ourselves as visually unfit.  However, the blind are not considered
> disabled
> as the advancements in technology has made them more independent.
> Consequently, the blind are not considered as disabled.
>  Amarjit
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "harish" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National
> Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and
> Evolvingdirections'
>
>
>> Hi Amarjit
>> I suppose you are refering to handicap and not disability. I do stand
> by
>> my statement as disability refers to in this context non
functionality
> of
>> a sense organ. I am not refering to a dictionary definition.
>> Harish.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Amarjit Powar" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National
>> Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and
>> Evolvingdirections'
>>
>>
>>> Hello Harish bhai,
>>> Something related or perhaps unrelated to your statement of below.
>>> Blindness in Alberta, Canada, is not, yes, not considered a
> disability
>>> anymore since the late mid 90's for applying for disability
pensions.
>
>>> The government says that blindness is just a  nuisance and not a
>>> disability as such.  The blind, as we all know it today and even
>>> considering
>>> majority of AccessIndians , can very well function in office-related
> jobs
>>> using modern software e.g. TTS, OCRs etc.  One can perform clerical,
>>> accounting, programming, etc. etc. jobs using these technologies.  I
>>> recall that the Albertan Government had removed some 1200 or 1800
> blind
>>> people from its disability payroll and got them enrolled in call
> centre
>>> jobs in the late mid 90s when JAWS gained more popularity and the
>>> government started subsidizing its purchase. So, we have to be
>>> politically correct as to who is a  disabled and what disability
> means.
>>> Sorry as this does not matter much to AccessIndians, but
just
>
>>> wanted to add my two cents worth.
>>> Amarjit
>>> Calgary, Alberta, Canada
>>>  - Original Message - 
>>> From: "harish" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference
>>> on'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving
> directions'
>>>
>>>
 Hello Vidya

 Isn't blindness a disablility? I guess, this is a first conference
> in a
 series of it. Maybe in the future, they shall have greater
 representation from other disabilities. In any case they too should
> be
 getting a right place

Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link

2009-03-02 Thread Subramani L
Try this out --Sudhir and Sudha. If you don't bother to read the
spelling, both the names sound almost the same. In fact, (I request R.
Sudhir only to laugh while reading this and not to take any offence) I
was under the impression that Sudhir, our revered member from Kerala,
was a female, that, until I spoke to him one day by phone!!! Identifying
genders, except in some obvious cases, is one of the difficulties I have
been facing even as I complete five years as an Access Indian. Trust me,
this is certainly not one of the nicest things to ask an individual. 

Subramani 

  

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit
Powar
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:46 AM
To: vibhusharm...@yahoo.co.in; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link

One of the greatest challanges in the pool of East Indian names is that
it's 
very difficult to distinguish the gender of a person just from the name
as 
most names nowadays are becoming unisex.  For instance, I've two female 
cousins who too go by my first name.  To  add to the agony, south Indian

mames, no disrespect to my
brethren,are even more difficult to attach to a gender.  They are hard 
enough even for JAWS to pronounce let alone distinguish the gender.  ha
ha!

Had Ms  Sharma not introduced herself as a female, I too might have been

compelled to assume her to be a he.
Amarjit
- Original Message - 
From: "vibhu sharma" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link


Dear Mr. surya

Thanks for your guidance. Now I can download the latest version of
gutenburg 
by the steps guided by your good-self.

I am sorry, if I sound rude, but let this be a reminder to all our
friends 
at Access India and an introduction to you, being a new member that I am
not 
Mister (Mr). I am a female.

Thanks and regards
Vibhu




--- On Sat, 28/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:

From: surya narayana 
Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
To: vibhusharm...@yahoo.co.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 5:04 PM

Mr. Sharma,
K1000 is software used for our purpose. But it contains the feature of
searching for literature andbooks and magazines with the help of some
other websites like Gutenburg. We can make use of them at free of
cost.Good luck,Surya.

On 2/28/09, vibhu sharma  wrote:
> Dear Mr. Surya
>
> Thanks for answering my query and allowing me to take further
assistance
> from your good-self in case of a doubt.
>
> Acctually, Gutenburg, is a website providing e-books. What I request
you
to
> please explain is how is it related to kurzwiel 1000? I can always
install
> the software to my computer and make its use as guided by your
good-self.
> But please explain me the relation between the two so as to enhance my
> knowledge and making it easy for me to download the latest gutenburg
> version.
>
> Thanks once again for your guidance
> With best regards
> Vibhu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 28/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:
>
> From: surya narayana 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
> To: vibhusharm...@yahoo.co.in, accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 2:29 PM
>
> Hello sharma,
> If kurzwiel 1000 is installed on your system, You should go to online
> submenu then open it. Press enter when you hear updates. After
> sometime, you will be prompted with some updates Put a check mark for
> every update by pressing spacebar while moving with arrows. wait for
> sometime. they will be downloaded and installed automatically when
> exit from it. Still if you feel doubt, Please contact me. my skype id
> : sosurya my mobile: 9441013400
> Good luck,
> Surya.
>
> On 2/27/09, vibhu sharma  wrote:
>> Dear All
>> Greetings to you all.
>> First of all, I am sorry if the queery I am going to ask, has already
been
>> answered for any other member of our E-home.
>> This is to request you all, to please guide me through the process of
>> downloading the latest version of Gutenburg. I request you to please
send
> me
>> the link
>> of download or guide me the step-step by process.
>> I will be much thankful for your cooperation.
>> Thanks and regards
>> Vibhu
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and Evolvingdirections'

2009-03-02 Thread Subramani L
Hai Rajesh:

On a lighter note, I request you not to reveal "certain trade secrets"
of some professionals by talking about loftier things like
"productivity". After all, in times of recession and job cuts,
"Productive employee" is the only cloak (or mask if you like) which one
likes to wear even though he or she may be actually worrying about the
axe!!! 

Secondly, on a serious note, "Productive employee," when you come to
think of it, is a myth any way. I say this because there are no clear
yardsticks for any job and people generally go by output or result. Take
my job for example, given the amount of creative or communicative work I
am supposed to do in comparison with people in other industries, I'm
certainly productive. But, mind you, the work flow isn't even reasonably
constant. Sometimes, you are drowned in it, other times you have nothing
productive but just stifling hard yawns in the afternoon. Now tell me
what standards one can adopt to measure someone's productivity. In the
final analysis, we are not talking about machines but humans so any
result-oriented approach, even in the case of an able-bodied person, is
unlikely to be convincing. And may be, just may be, that's why some
bosses don't cease to be hard on their subordinates!!

Subramani 

 

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re:
[AI]Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenge
s and Evolvingdirections'

Hi Amarjeet and all other friends

After all, I am compelled to step in this highly curious exchange of
ideas despite my initial reluctance.
Well, first of all, employability of blind, and blindness being a
disability are two different issues, I think.

True, that with technology, blind can and do work, but does this mean
that they have ceased to be disabled?
The attitude of Alberta government is curious, to say the least...

Now, I think a particular impairment, does limit the general
functionality of a person, even under most utopian conditions,  and the
impairment is transformed into an inability which we conveniently call a
disability, though personally I do not agree with the word and would
like to call it: "inability."
This transformation of an impairment into inability happens as a result
of a host of operating factors including but not limited to, structural
barriers, attitudinal dogmas, haphazard designs, and above all,
particular context and situation.

So, even if in a given context, like employment, the inability resulting
from impaired/absent eyesight may be reduced to varying extent, we have
to accept that:
1. this reduction of inability is not cent percent and as a general
rule, a fully productive blind employee remains a myth barring some
highly adapted job profiles,
and 2. whatever reverse transformation of inability into ability, is
limited to a given context, and if we see life as a whole, a person with
blindness surely is a person with disability, or rather with inability,
and so should not be grudged some compensatory benefits even in areas
where that inability is not hindering his participation to a
considerable extent.

I don't know whether I have been able to make myself clear enough, but
am open to further exchange of ideas on or off the list about this
issue.

To sum up, I would term Alberta government's de-categorization of blind
as non-disabled as tragic flaw and maybe, a trend setter for such
callous policies here in India as well, as we are masters in the art of
copying and pasting whatever is adopted in west.
God forbid, such a thing happened in US, and next year you would not see
any reservations being made for persons with disabilities here as well.

And, yes, to carry forward Albertan logic to its logical conclusion, we
may characterize orthopedically handicapped as nondisabled once we
provide them wheel chairs, and deaf as fully functioning as soon as they
have hearing aids free...



Regards

Rajesh
'

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit
Powar
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:48 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI]
Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges
and Evolvingdirections'

Hi Subramani,
Well, for  the very reason these were employable people in the eyes of
the
government.  Who wouldn't want to work if, other than your vision, your
other bodily parts are working well?  We've to accept it as a fact that
blind are not disabled but have some limitations.  We have the
handibuses
that come and pick you up and drop you in your doorway.  So, what are
the
reasons that a blind person won't want to work?  After all, all that
technology was totally paid for if not just subsidized.  And, in the end
you
end up making more money than what the gov

[AI] jaws support with .pdf files

2009-03-02 Thread shikher goyal
hello to all
there is some compatability issue with jaws in .pdf files. sometimes
it hangs during reading or sometime during preparing for reading and
sometimes it starts reading from beginning.
how can i read as comfortably as we read a MS word document or HTML page.
thanks
shikher



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[AI] Information required regarding mobility training.

2009-03-02 Thread bhavesh dhanak
Hi friends,

hope all are doing great!

I would like to have information, which would be the best place for females for 
mobility training? 

What about accommodation, is it provided by the institutions?

Will it make any difference where the training is taken, in terms of good 
techniques and  professional trainers, to be well trained?

Awaiting your precious replies.

Thanking you all in anticipation.

" Never postpone joy! Enjoy each second, so every moment becomes, the golden 
moment of your life!" 

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Re: [AI] DAISY books

2009-03-02 Thread Shadab Husain
Hi, please contact the General Secretary of RSVI dr.rj...@gmail.com as you 
might get many books there as well. HTH Shadab Husain
Easy tips of improving English at
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/

My contributions to the press
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#link

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- Original Message - 
From: "Amiyo Biswas" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] DAISY books


Hello,

Where does your friend stay? NAB Delhi has prepared some daisy books in
Hindi. Some other organisations also have daisy books in Hindi. The NAB
books are quite good. I have seen some of them in the library of Blind
Persons' Association in Kolkata.

Best regards,

Amiyo Biswas.

Cell: +91-9433464329
Skype ID: amiyo11
- Original Message -
From: "Sanjay" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:06 AM
Subject: [AI] DAISY books


> Friends,
> One of my friend does not know English nor he is computer literate.  He is
> interested in reading Hindi books and magazines preferably in mp3 or daisy
> format as he has a cd player at home.  Therefore, I would like to know is
> there any institute/library  which can deliver cd's of hindi books and
> magazines for blind by post?  Let me pass on the contact details to him.
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] jaws support with .pdf files

2009-03-02 Thread surya narayana
Hello mr. goyal,
What you said is correct. Acrobat reader 9 is available. You can use
it to solve your problem. Moreover When you start acrobat reader, it
asks for reading order. better to choose "from left to right" your
problem may be solved.
With cheers,
Surya.

On 3/2/09, shikher goyal  wrote:
> hello to all
> there is some compatability issue with jaws in .pdf files. sometimes
> it hangs during reading or sometime during preparing for reading and
> sometimes it starts reading from beginning.
> how can i read as comfortably as we read a MS word document or HTML page.
> thanks
> shikher
>
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[AI] querry about deleting mails

2009-03-02 Thread Thahir P C
friends, regarding deleting gmail mails, could you please tell me an easy way? 
in my in box i have around 8000 mails. checking each mail and deleting them is 
really time consuming.is there check all option in gmail? 
Regards,
Thahir.

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Re: [AI] Coins may not coinside:

2009-03-02 Thread Thahir P C

dear surya,
what you have said about coins is absolutely correct. i also feel that 
everyone of us should take this issue very seriously. we should bring to 
notice of the finance ministry the relevance of PWD act.
- Original Message - 
From: "surya narayana" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 12:16 AM
Subject: [AI] Coins may not coinside:


Hello friends,
I do like to share something with special today. Although many acts
passed, many judgements favoured our status and many seminars
organized, I don’t find enough change in visually challenged life. For
instance let us take the issue of coins used in India:
Few years ago they are easy to be recognized by blind people. Now it
becomes strenuous even for sighted. Much difference is not observed
between Rs 5 & 50 Np, and 1 rupee & 2 rupee coins. What I feel is the
Government is not considering the interest and needs of visually
challenged. They can mint the coins in different shapes like square
and 10 paisa  coins which are left behind.
I humbly request all access Indians prepare a mail and send it to the
Government of india ie Finance ministry and the President. We can get
their mail Ids at
Goidirectory.nic.in
Everyone should ask not to mint such coins again. If the Government
wants to introduce new coin, the coin should be scrutinized by a team
of the blind community.
I hope you will respond well.
Your friend,
Surya,
Skype: sosurya,
Gmail: surya.ga...@gmail.com,
Yahoo: sosu...@yahoo.com,
Mobile: 9441013400.



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Re: [AI] Information required regarding mobility training.

2009-03-02 Thread Madhu Singhal

Dear Bhavesh,
I am writing on the behalf of Mitra Jyothi We can give this trainingand 
accomodation please let me know from whom you are asking?

You can write to me on my personal email.
Madhu Singhal.
- Original Message - 
From: "bhavesh dhanak" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:00 PM
Subject: [AI] Information required regarding mobility training.



Hi friends,

hope all are doing great!

I would like to have information, which would be the best place for 
females for mobility training?


What about accommodation, is it provided by the institutions?

Will it make any difference where the training is taken, in terms of good 
techniques and  professional trainers, to be well trained?


Awaiting your precious replies.

Thanking you all in anticipation.

" Never postpone joy! Enjoy each second, so every moment becomes, the 
golden moment of your life!"


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Re: [AI] DAISY books

2009-03-02 Thread Trepan Singh
Hello Sanjay, you can contact for this-
National Association of the Blind Sector 5, R.K. Puram, Delhi.
It has some other branches. Its head office is located in Mumbai. But I
don't know the full address.
Regard
Trepan Singh
ts.neg...@gmail.com
Ph. 98687733225

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sanjay
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 8:36 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] DAISY books

Friends,
One of my friend does not know English nor he is computer literate.  He is 
interested in reading Hindi books and magazines preferably in mp3 or daisy 
format as he has a cd player at home.  Therefore, I would like to know is 
there any institute/library  which can deliver cd's of hindi books and 
magazines for blind by post?  Let me pass on the contact details to him.




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Re: [AI] querry about deleting mails

2009-03-02 Thread Rohith P
hai
I think it's not possible in the basic html view. in standard view,
there's an option to select all mails, which is not accessible with
JAWS.
regards
rohith p

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> way? in my in box i have around 8000 mails. checking each mail and deleting
> them is really time consuming.is there check all option in gmail?
> Regards,
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Re: [AI] Information required regarding mobility training.

2009-03-02 Thread Vedprakash Sharma
I suppose, AICB Delhi provides this facility.
You can check the same at:
http://www.aicb.org.in
  - Original Message - 
  From: bhavesh dhanak 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:00 PM
  Subject: [AI] Information required regarding mobility training.


  Hi friends,

  hope all are doing great!

  I would like to have information, which would be the best place for females 
for mobility training? 

  What about accommodation, is it provided by the institutions?

  Will it make any difference where the training is taken, in terms of good 
techniques and  professional trainers, to be well trained?

  Awaiting your precious replies.

  Thanking you all in anticipation.

  " Never postpone joy! Enjoy each second, so every moment becomes, the golden 
moment of your life!" 

  For gossips, feel free to catch me on:
  Skype: bhavesh.dhanak
  MSN: bhavesh.dha...@hotmail.com
  Yahoo Messenger: bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in
  To send an E-mail: bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com

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Re: [AI] problem with hindi jaws

2009-03-02 Thread Rajpal
Hello Sir,

Jaws hindi is working perfectly in my two or three machines. It also
recognizes capitol  and small letters, some miner changes are required on
the user end for capitol and small letters.

Regards,
Rajpal
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Annavaram
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] problem with hindi jaws

Hi Steve,

as per the information kept on Freedomscientific.com, the special hindi 
synthesiser for JAWS is originally developed by Freedomscientific (UK) 
Branch and marketed in India.
--
if you have bought Jaws 9 or the later version, you can contact UK 
Freedomscientific and they will be able to help you get JAWS Hindi, as it is

being called today.

but as of now as my experience goes, JAWS Hindi version has some silly 
problems like not being able to identify the small and capital letters.

anyway, have a try of your own and share with us how it works.

Annavaram Neredimalli,
Jawaharlal Nehru University,
New Delhi.

From: 
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:08 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [AI] problem with hindi jaws

> Where can I get Hindi JAWS please?
> I did not see it on the Freedomscientific website.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Trepan Singh" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:25 PM
> Subject: [AI] problem with hindi jaws
>
>
>> I'm having a hectic problem in installing Hindi jaws. I tried very hard 
>> but
>> couldn't succeed. Even I formatted c: drive many times. Please suggest me

>> a
>> remedy.
>>
>> Trepan Singh
>>
>> ts.neg...@gmail.com
>>
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Re: [AI] winem

2009-03-02 Thread parthiban
   While I thank you for the information about latest winamp, I must 
register my appreciations for the strenuous efforts to add the new features 
with your mail.
- Original Message - 
From: "firoz" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: [AI] winem



Winamp version 5.55 is now available and a direct link to the file is at


www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/winamp555_full.exe

Here is the long list of changes in this version:

* New: Turkish, Portuguese-BR & Romanian installer translations and
language packs

* New: WBM system for lazy-loading of *.w5s files

* New: [Bento skin] Playlist tab (optional)

* New: [ml_impex] iTunes-compatible Media Library database import/export 
plugin


* Improved: [gen_ff] Faster & no flicker when loading/switching skins

* Improved: [gen_jumpex] New 'Add to Library' shell menu item & other 
tweaks


* Improved: [gen_jumpex] True unicode search support

* Improved: [gen_ml] Optional alternating row colors for list views

* Improved: [gen_ml] Optional skinned menus

* Improved: [in_mod] Experimental ExtendedRead support (transcoding,
burning, etc)

* Improved: [in_mod] Now uses global Playback config for thread priority

* Improved: [in_mp3] APEv2 tag editing/creating tweaks

* Improved: [in_mp3] Show instantaneous bitrates for AAC VBR

* Improved: [ml_local] Media Library searches now ignore diacritics

* Improved: [ml_local] New 'Category' and 'Lossless' database fields

* Improved: [ml_local] New playcount Tracking Control options

* Improved: [ml_local] New 'Play/Enqueue random' item for top level 
filters


* Improved: [ml_online] New toolbar and various other tweaks & 
optimizations


* Improved: [ml_online] Support for 3rd-party Services

* Improved: [vis_milk2] Pixel Shader 2.0 & 3.0 support tweaks

* Improved: [vis_nsfs] Unicode title display for currently playing track

* Improved: [Winamp Agent] Localization support

* Improved: [Winamp Modern skin] New spectrum vis options

* Fixed: Accessibility fixup for Format Info string in Alt+3 dialog

* Fixed: Genre not being saved with Autotag feature in Alt+3 dialog

* Fixed: Memory leaks in in_mp3, in_wm, gen_dropbox, ml_local, ml_pmp
& tagz.w5s

* Fixed: New version check can't be disabled when anon statistics is 
enabled


* Fixed: Rare crash when closing vis window

* Fixed: Various issues when starting/stopping/switching vis plugins

* Fixed: [Agent] Systray icon not showing if 'Play in Winamp' removed
in Shell Options

* Fixed: [enc_flac] 24-bit FLAC encoding

* Fixed: [gen_jumpex] Shell Options, B Hotkey, Send To menus & other misc 
bugs


* Fixed: [gen_ml] Library button resize glitch

* Fixed: [in_cdda] Potential cddb Disc null pointer crash

* Fixed: [in_flac] Albumartist & Ensemble fields not cleared when
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Re: [AI] On behalf of the moderator Jas 10 cracked

2009-03-02 Thread Trepan Singh
Hello, I'm really very sorry for the violation of the sanctity of the list.
I must be excused because I'm a new member and I should be given a chance to
be corrected.
Trepan Singh
ts.neg...@gmail.com
Ph. 9968733225

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:43 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] On behalf of the moderator Jas 10 cracked

Trepan,
You will be banned and off the listas soon as the moderator is able to check

his emails.
There has been ample warning from the other members not to discuss this 
topic.

Too bad you are going to have the opportunity to learn from the collective 
wisdom of the group and too bad we wont learn from you but you have violated

your membership and you are hereby out.


Lets not discuss this thread at all.
The Moderator is travelling and he will be able to do something only on 
Wednesday at the earliest.
If someone at JNU is checking email then please inform the Moderator.
Regards

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: "Trepan Singh" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Jas 10 cracked


> Hello Ansari ji, I've the solution for you. Send me your personal e-mail 
> ID
> and I'll send you the crack.
> Trepan Singh
> ts.neg...@gmail.com
> Ph. 9968733225
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Abdullah
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:27 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Jas 10 cracked
>
> Thanks for the crack JAWS 10 link.I have downloaded the same and after
> following the instructions I installed the programme.When I restarted the
> system
> It prompts as under:
> Exe files are are missing.
> Please help .
>
> AJ Ansari
> 9833539025
>
> -Original Message-
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> satish
> peri
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:56 AM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] Jas 10 cracked
>
> hello all here is a great torrent on jaws 10 which have got the crack.
> i havent tested as i got a licenced one for my self so as to check i
> am downloadig. people who are interested  can download and sen their
> comments.
> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4677037/JAWS_10.0.512_screen_reader
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[AI] Indian-American scientist creates top web technology

2009-03-02 Thread Renuka Warrier
The Hindu News Update Service
 
News Update Service
Monday, March 2, 2009 : 0940 Hrs   
Sci. & Tech.
Indian-American scientist creates top web technology 

Washington (IANS): HashCache, the technological brainchild of a team of 
Princeton computer science researchers led by an Indian American scientist, has
drawn recognition as a revolutionary way to expand internet access around the 
world. 

Created by a team of researchers headed by computer science professor Vivek 
Pai, the new efficient data storage system was featured as one of the top 10
emerging technologies of the year in Technology Review, a scientific magazine 
published by Massachusetts Institute of Technology. 

HashCache, features a new data-caching system that stores information more 
efficiently than current methods. By making internet access more affordable,
HashCache has the potential to expand web use in developing regions around the 
world. 

"The whole point of HashCache is that it can be deployed in a very low-cost 
box," Pai explained. 

The development team includes PhD student and IIT-Madras graduate Anirudh 
Badam, computer science department chair Larry Peterson, computer science 
researcher
Marc Fiuczynski and University of Pittsburgh professor Kyoung Soo Park. 

Because of its affordability, HashCache presents new opportunities for poorer 
regions to gain internet access. Instead of relying heavily on RAM, HashCache
stores information from frequently visited web sites on a local hard drive so 
the data can be accessed directly. 

This system significantly increases the efficiency of internet data transfer, 
which can reduce the cost of maintaining a one-terabyte hard drive tenfold,
Pai said. 

HashCache is "flexible," Badam noted. "We can implement it in cell phones, 
laptops or nearly any other hardware." 

Commercialisation is a consideration for the group, Pai noted, but the main 
goal is to release HashCache for practical and widespread use. 

Some plans even involve making the system free for nonprofit organizations and 
schools in developing countries that already have technology support. 

"I'm happy about the reception [of HashCache]," Pai said, adding that the 
acclaim the team has garnered provides evidence that the rift between high-end
science and low-cost engineering is not as wide as it seems. 

Testing of the new caching system is currently underway at two deployment sites 
at the Kokrobitey Institute in Ghana and Obafemi Awolowo University in Nigeria.


The Princeton University team will continue to explore ways to provide greater 
efficiency in web usage, including a planned project for systems that monitor
people's behaviour to reduce slow connection speeds 




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Re: [AI] Information required regarding mobility training.

2009-03-02 Thread Suhas Karnik

Dear bhavesh.

The national association for the blind India conducts intensive training 
programme at its department of rehabilitation in Mumbai. nab also has a 
domicilary mobility instructor who visits the residence of the clients for 
imparting training in orientation and mobility. 

Amities.

Suhas Karnik.
 
> From: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
> To: bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:21:03 +0530
> Subject: Re: [AI] Information required regarding mobility training.
> 
> I suppose, AICB Delhi provides this facility.
> You can check the same at:
> http://www.aicb.org.in
> - Original Message - 
> From: bhavesh dhanak 
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:00 PM
> Subject: [AI] Information required regarding mobility training.
> 
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> hope all are doing great!
> 
> I would like to have information, which would be the best place for females 
> for mobility training? 
> 
> What about accommodation, is it provided by the institutions?
> 
> Will it make any difference where the training is taken, in terms of good 
> techniques and professional trainers, to be well trained?
> 
> Awaiting your precious replies.
> 
> Thanking you all in anticipation.
> 
> " Never postpone joy! Enjoy each second, so every moment becomes, the golden 
> moment of your life!" 
> 
> For gossips, feel free to catch me on:
> Skype: bhavesh.dhanak
> MSN: bhavesh.dha...@hotmail.com
> Yahoo Messenger: bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in
> To send an E-mail: bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com
> 
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> 
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Re: [AI] Help needed for buying PCs

2009-03-02 Thread vinod benjamin
Dear sir,

Thanks for your instantaneous answer, coming to the answer my friend is
living in Chennai, how to go about this sir?

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin,
 

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Hello Vinod, as I know, you may be granted loan free of cost from NAB,
provided that you have to get a training certificate from the NAB.
Regard
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ts.neg...@gmail.com
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Subject: [AI] Help needed for buying PCs

Dear Access Indians,

 

Is there any organization help the VIPs in buying a PC with a subsidized
rates? I remember long back there was a discussion in our list about this,
so can any one through light on this, I am looking an answer for my friend,
who is planning to get a PC. I would be thankful with your answers.

 

Regards,

 

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Re: [AI] Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and Evolvingdirections'

2009-03-02 Thread Geetha Shamanna

Hi Rajesh and all,

It must be said that provision of door-to-door transportation and access 
technology funding by the state eliminates the two major hurdles that 
prevent blind people from becoming employable. Jargon apart (whether 
blindness is a disability or a handicap is not of much practical 
significance), considering that the Alberta Government has taken steps to 
help blind people overcome these two limitations, don't you think its 
decision to scrap disability benefits is a step in the right direction? If 
the government takes the responsibility of finding jobs with appropriate 
accommodation for accessibility for all its blind residents of employable 
age upon itself, then where is the problem?


Your point about the ability of a blind person to achieve 100% independent 
productivity is valid to a large extent; but is 90% or 80% productivity not 
better than 0%?


Geetha
- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: 
[AI]Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges 
and Evolvingdirections'




Hi Amarjeet and all other friends

After all, I am compelled to step in this highly curious exchange of ideas 
despite my initial reluctance.
Well, first of all, employability of blind, and blindness being a 
disability are two different issues, I think.


True, that with technology, blind can and do work, but does this mean that 
they have ceased to be disabled?

The attitude of Alberta government is curious, to say the least...

Now, I think a particular impairment, does limit the general functionality 
of a person, even under most utopian conditions,  and the impairment is 
transformed into an inability which we conveniently call a disability, 
though personally I do not agree with the word and would like to call it: 
"inability."
This transformation of an impairment into inability happens as a result of 
a host of operating factors including but not limited to, structural 
barriers, attitudinal dogmas, haphazard designs, and above all, particular 
context and situation.


So, even if in a given context, like employment, the inability resulting 
from impaired/absent eyesight may be reduced to varying extent, we have to 
accept that:
1. this reduction of inability is not cent percent and as a general rule, 
a fully productive blind employee remains a myth barring some highly 
adapted job profiles,
and 2. whatever reverse transformation of inability into ability, is 
limited to a given context, and if we see life as a whole, a person with 
blindness surely is a person with disability, or rather with inability, 
and so should not be grudged some compensatory benefits even in areas 
where that inability is not hindering his participation to a considerable 
extent.


I don't know whether I have been able to make myself clear enough, but am 
open to further exchange of ideas on or off the list about this issue.


To sum up, I would term Alberta government's de-categorization of blind as 
non-disabled as tragic flaw and maybe, a trend setter for such callous 
policies here in India as well, as we are masters in the art of copying 
and pasting whatever is adopted in west.
God forbid, such a thing happened in US, and next year you would not see 
any reservations being made for persons with disabilities here as well.


And, yes, to carry forward Albertan logic to its logical conclusion, we 
may characterize orthopedically handicapped as nondisabled once we provide 
them wheel chairs, and deaf as fully functioning as soon as they have 
hearing aids free...




Regards

Rajesh
'

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit Powar

Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:48 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] 
Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and 
Evolvingdirections'


Hi Subramani,
Well, for  the very reason these were employable people in the eyes of the
government.  Who wouldn't want to work if, other than your vision, your
other bodily parts are working well?  We've to accept it as a fact that
blind are not disabled but have some limitations.  We have the handibuses
that come and pick you up and drop you in your doorway.  So, what are the
reasons that a blind person won't want to work?  After all, all that
technology was totally paid for if not just subsidized.  And, in the end 
you

end up making more money than what the government was paying you.
Amarjit

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From: "Subramani L" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI]
Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and
Evolvingdirections'



But usually lobbiests are very strong in your country isn't it? Then why
didn't they step in to protest against the Alberta government?

Subramani



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[AI] How to upload a file on to send space?

2009-03-02 Thread govind reddy
Hello every one:
How to upload a file on to send space with or with out its tool?
That's when I enter the user name and pass word, it asks for its url,
it also has some buttons like upload a single and multiple files. what
are all these buttons? I'm planning some books to be uploaded for our
members.
Your help will be highly appriciated.
Regards,
Govind.
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Re: [AI] jaws support with .pdf files

2009-03-02 Thread shikher goyal
hello sir
i am already using acrobat 9. while opening a document, if i select
read the entire document(which is almost more than 200 pages), jaws
hangs.
and if iselect read only vcurrently visible pages, then after
completion of page, when new page prepare for reading, jaws starts
reading from beginning.
also i'll try for left to right reading option.
send me all the commands of jaws for acrobat, if you have.

i also want to know Is there any other alternative for reading .pdf
file comfortably with jaws I.E. by converting .pdf extention or
something like that or any other software.
thanks
shikher goyal

On 3/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:
> Hello mr. goyal,
> What you said is correct. Acrobat reader 9 is available. You can use
> it to solve your problem. Moreover When you start acrobat reader, it
> asks for reading order. better to choose "from left to right" your
> problem may be solved.
> With cheers,
> Surya.
>
> On 3/2/09, shikher goyal  wrote:
>> hello to all
>> there is some compatability issue with jaws in .pdf files. sometimes
>> it hangs during reading or sometime during preparing for reading and
>> sometimes it starts reading from beginning.
>> how can i read as comfortably as we read a MS word document or HTML page.
>> thanks
>> shikher
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Information required regarding mobility training.

2009-03-02 Thread Amit Bhatt
NAB Centre For Women Delhi has also been involve in providing Mobility 
training to Visually Impaired Female candidates.
You may visit their website at: www.nabcentreforwomen.org in order to get in 
touch with them for getting the further details. They have accommodation 
facility at the Centre.


Warm regards,

Amit Bhatt

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www.farhorizonindia.com
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"A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great player"
- Original Message - 
From: "Vedprakash Sharma" 
To: "bhavesh dhanak" ; 


Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Information required regarding mobility training.



I suppose, AICB Delhi provides this facility.
You can check the same at:
http://www.aicb.org.in
 - Original Message - 
 From: bhavesh dhanak

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:00 PM
 Subject: [AI] Information required regarding mobility training.


 Hi friends,

 hope all are doing great!

 I would like to have information, which would be the best place for 
females for mobility training?


 What about accommodation, is it provided by the institutions?

 Will it make any difference where the training is taken, in terms of good 
techniques and  professional trainers, to be well trained?


 Awaiting your precious replies.

 Thanking you all in anticipation.

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Re: [AI] Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and Evolvingdirections'

2009-03-02 Thread Mahesh Panicker
Hi Roopakshi. the session on gender starts at 11-30 AM , and goes up to
1-15pm.


to Vidya. it would be nice if you go through the schedule ones again, and
then make conclusions. and of course we are also awair of the kind of
seminars that keep on happening on disability. we were trying to say that
the seminar organized in JNU is the first of its kind initiated in a prime
national institution of higher education, and that in itself is an
achievement, as it should be able to facilitate greater theorization of the
entire issue. for your information, let me repeat, this seminar is organized
by the JNU Equal Opportunities Office and the JNU Visually Challenged Forum.
however it doesn't mean that only Visually challenged are involved. there
are people from different backgrounds.

On 3/2/09, Geetha Shamanna  wrote:
>
> Hi Rajesh and all,
>
> It must be said that provision of door-to-door transportation and access
> technology funding by the state eliminates the two major hurdles that
> prevent blind people from becoming employable. Jargon apart (whether
> blindness is a disability or a handicap is not of much practical
> significance), considering that the Alberta Government has taken steps to
> help blind people overcome these two limitations, don't you think its
> decision to scrap disability benefits is a step in the right direction? If
> the government takes the responsibility of finding jobs with appropriate
> accommodation for accessibility for all its blind residents of employable
> age upon itself, then where is the problem?
>
> Your point about the ability of a blind person to achieve 100% independent
> productivity is valid to a large extent; but is 90% or 80% productivity not
> better than 0%?
>
> Geetha
> - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <
> rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re:
> [AI]Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges
> and Evolvingdirections'
>
>
> Hi Amarjeet and all other friends
>>
>> After all, I am compelled to step in this highly curious exchange of ideas
>> despite my initial reluctance.
>> Well, first of all, employability of blind, and blindness being a
>> disability are two different issues, I think.
>>
>> True, that with technology, blind can and do work, but does this mean that
>> they have ceased to be disabled?
>> The attitude of Alberta government is curious, to say the least...
>>
>> Now, I think a particular impairment, does limit the general functionality
>> of a person, even under most utopian conditions,  and the impairment is
>> transformed into an inability which we conveniently call a disability,
>> though personally I do not agree with the word and would like to call it:
>> "inability."
>> This transformation of an impairment into inability happens as a result of
>> a host of operating factors including but not limited to, structural
>> barriers, attitudinal dogmas, haphazard designs, and above all, particular
>> context and situation.
>>
>> So, even if in a given context, like employment, the inability resulting
>> from impaired/absent eyesight may be reduced to varying extent, we have to
>> accept that:
>> 1. this reduction of inability is not cent percent and as a general rule,
>> a fully productive blind employee remains a myth barring some highly adapted
>> job profiles,
>> and 2. whatever reverse transformation of inability into ability, is
>> limited to a given context, and if we see life as a whole, a person with
>> blindness surely is a person with disability, or rather with inability, and
>> so should not be grudged some compensatory benefits even in areas where that
>> inability is not hindering his participation to a considerable extent.
>>
>> I don't know whether I have been able to make myself clear enough, but am
>> open to further exchange of ideas on or off the list about this issue.
>>
>> To sum up, I would term Alberta government's de-categorization of blind as
>> non-disabled as tragic flaw and maybe, a trend setter for such callous
>> policies here in India as well, as we are masters in the art of copying and
>> pasting whatever is adopted in west.
>> God forbid, such a thing happened in US, and next year you would not see
>> any reservations being made for persons with disabilities here as well.
>>
>> And, yes, to carry forward Albertan logic to its logical conclusion, we
>> may characterize orthopedically handicapped as nondisabled once we provide
>> them wheel chairs, and deaf as fully functioning as soon as they have
>> hearing aids free...
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rajesh
>> '
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>> accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit Powar
>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:48 AM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI]
>> Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and
>> Evolvingdirections'
>>
>> Hi Subr

Re: [AI] jaws support with .pdf files

2009-03-02 Thread Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss
I am aware, you are looking JAWS commands for acrobat reader. If you
do not mind, I would like to suggest you to  use Kurzweil -1000 to
convert such a large document in to word format. If you do not have
Kurzweil, please do not hesitate to contact me off the list at
sathiya.ramd...@gmail.com

I will be able to help you in convertion, Thank You.

Your's Sathiyaprakash

On 3/2/09, shikher goyal  wrote:
> hello sir
> i am already using acrobat 9. while opening a document, if i select
> read the entire document(which is almost more than 200 pages), jaws
> hangs.
> and if iselect read only vcurrently visible pages, then after
> completion of page, when new page prepare for reading, jaws starts
> reading from beginning.
> also i'll try for left to right reading option.
> send me all the commands of jaws for acrobat, if you have.
>
> i also want to know Is there any other alternative for reading .pdf
> file comfortably with jaws I.E. by converting .pdf extention or
> something like that or any other software.
> thanks
> shikher goyal
>
> On 3/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:
>> Hello mr. goyal,
>> What you said is correct. Acrobat reader 9 is available. You can use
>> it to solve your problem. Moreover When you start acrobat reader, it
>> asks for reading order. better to choose "from left to right" your
>> problem may be solved.
>> With cheers,
>> Surya.
>>
>> On 3/2/09, shikher goyal  wrote:
>>> hello to all
>>> there is some compatability issue with jaws in .pdf files. sometimes
>>> it hangs during reading or sometime during preparing for reading and
>>> sometimes it starts reading from beginning.
>>> how can i read as comfortably as we read a MS word document or HTML page.
>>> thanks
>>> shikher
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] jaws support with .pdf files

2009-03-02 Thread surya narayana
Hello sir,
I don't jaws commands at present, I will send them after writing. I
want to know whether Kurzweil 1000 is installed or not. If the
scanning software is also installed, It will be easy for you to open
document easy.As far as my knowledge is concerned there is no way
other than this.
With best regards,
Surya.

On 3/2/09, shikher goyal  wrote:
> hello sir
> i am already using acrobat 9. while opening a document, if i select
> read the entire document(which is almost more than 200 pages), jaws
> hangs.
> and if iselect read only vcurrently visible pages, then after
> completion of page, when new page prepare for reading, jaws starts
> reading from beginning.
> also i'll try for left to right reading option.
> send me all the commands of jaws for acrobat, if you have.
>
> i also want to know Is there any other alternative for reading .pdf
> file comfortably with jaws I.E. by converting .pdf extention or
> something like that or any other software.
> thanks
> shikher goyal
>
> On 3/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:
>> Hello mr. goyal,
>> What you said is correct. Acrobat reader 9 is available. You can use
>> it to solve your problem. Moreover When you start acrobat reader, it
>> asks for reading order. better to choose "from left to right" your
>> problem may be solved.
>> With cheers,
>> Surya.
>>
>> On 3/2/09, shikher goyal  wrote:
>>> hello to all
>>> there is some compatability issue with jaws in .pdf files. sometimes
>>> it hangs during reading or sometime during preparing for reading and
>>> sometimes it starts reading from beginning.
>>> how can i read as comfortably as we read a MS word document or HTML page.
>>> thanks
>>> shikher
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
>>> with
>>> the subject unsubscribe.
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Re: [AI] Member's Gender.

2009-03-02 Thread RAKESH KUMAR GUPTA

"kaur" for female and "singh" is for male.
Regards,
- Original Message - 
From: "Amiyo Biswas" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Member's Gender.



Hello,

I have changed the subject line for focussing on the last thread. First, 
let

me tell you that I am a man. Names may be confusing at times. Names like
Kiran and Kanchan may be both male and female names in India. It depends 
on

the language and custom of the particular region.

As far as my name is concerned, if I spell my name as Amiya, it becomes
equivalent for both male and female names in Bengali. So I always spell it
as Amiyo. Amarjit in Bengali sounds a male name. So, she must not be
offended if somebody is confused, and I am sure, she is not. I have seen
that Punjabi people do not distinguish between male and female names. We,
Bengali people, are used to calling girls by names ending with an "aa" or
with an "ee" sound. I appreciate the Sikh Punjabi tradition of using same
type of names for boys and girls and indicating a girl's name with a 
"Kaur".



Best regards,

Amiyo Biswas.

Cell: +91-9433464329
Skype ID: amiyo11
- Original Message -
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link



Hi Ms Amarjit - thanks for this reply. Even it is very difficult for me

also

to understand who is male and who is female here. So, I will humbly

request
to everybody to please mention your gender. I don't think that this is 
off

topic because knowing the genders of our friends is necessary. I am a

male.
By the way mam, 3 3 cousin sisters of the same name in a single family 
and
that too of a male name (Amarjit) really makes it extremely curious!! 
With

best wishes, Shadab Husain

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- Original Message -
From: "Amarjit Powar" 
To: ; 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link


One of the greatest challanges in the pool of East Indian names is that

it's
very difficult to distinguish the gender of a person just from the name 
as

most names nowadays are becoming unisex.  For instance, I've two female
cousins who too go by my first name.  To  add to the agony, south Indian
mames, no disrespect to my
brethren,are even more difficult to attach to a gender.  They are hard
enough even for JAWS to pronounce let alone distinguish the gender.  ha

ha!


Had Ms  Sharma not introduced herself as a female, I too might have been
compelled to assume her to be a he.
Amarjit
- Original Message -
From: "vibhu sharma" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link


Dear Mr. surya

Thanks for your guidance. Now I can download the latest version of

gutenburg

by the steps guided by your good-self.

I am sorry, if I sound rude, but let this be a reminder to all our 
friends

at Access India and an introduction to you, being a new member that I am

not

Mister (Mr). I am a female.

Thanks and regards
Vibhu




--- On Sat, 28/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:

From: surya narayana 
Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
To: vibhusharm...@yahoo.co.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 5:04 PM

Mr. Sharma,
K1000 is software used for our purpose. But it contains the feature of
searching for literature andbooks and magazines with the help of some
other websites like Gutenburg. We can make use of them at free of
cost.Good luck,Surya.

On 2/28/09, vibhu sharma  wrote:
> Dear Mr. Surya
>
> Thanks for answering my query and allowing me to take further 
> assistance

> from your good-self in case of a doubt.
>
> Acctually, Gutenburg, is a website providing e-books. What I request 
> you

to
> please explain is how is it related to kurzwiel 1000? I can always

install

> the software to my computer and make its use as guided by your

good-self.

> But please explain me the relation between the two so as to enhance my
> knowledge and making it easy for me to download the latest gutenburg
> version.
>
> Thanks once again for your guidance
> With best regards
> Vibhu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 28/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:
>
> From: surya narayana 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
> To: vibhusharm...@yahoo.co.in, accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 2:29 PM
>
> Hello sharma,
> If kurzwiel 1000 is installed on your system, You should go to online
> submenu then open it. Press enter when you hear updates. After
> somet

Re: [AI] How to upload a file on to send space?

2009-03-02 Thread Amiyo Biswas

Hello,

When you have logged in, activate the upload link. The new page will have 
some form fields. The first field will be the edit box for file upload with 
the title "Select file* (up to 300MB)".


You can type in the entire path of the file, say
d:\goutam.pdf
Or, you can press enter on the browse button just below it and locate the 
file on your hard drive.


Once you select the file, focus will return to the upload page with the path 
written in the file upload edit box.


Below it is another edit box for an optional description of the file.

Next is a checkbox checked by default. It ensures that the link for the 
uploaded file is sent to you by email. Leave it checked.


There is another field for the recipient's email address. you can put an 
email address here and if it is a valid one, the links will be posted to 
that address.


Then hit enter on the upload button. Wait a few seconds and a progress metre 
will come up showing progress of the upload. You will have to use jaws 
cursor to monitor it. But don't open any other site or activate any other 
link while this upload process is going on. It will terminate the upload.


Once the upload is complete, a fresh page will automatically apeear with the 
new link. It will be posted to you also by email. Notice that the page and 
the new email will contain links for retrieving and deleting the file. So be 
careful.


Also note that if you are not logged in, you have to agree to the terms and 
conditions by checking a checkbox. The fields I have mentioned may not be in 
this order. Give it a try and you won't find it difficult.


Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.

Cell: +91-9433464329
Skype ID: amiyo11
Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.

Cell: +91-9433464329
Skype ID: amiyo11
- Original Message - 
From: "govind reddy" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:26 PM
Subject: [AI] How to upload a file on to send space?



Hello every one:
How to upload a file on to send space with or with out its tool?
That's when I enter the user name and pass word, it asks for its url,
it also has some buttons like upload a single and multiple files. what
are all these buttons? I'm planning some books to be uploaded for our
members.
Your help will be highly appriciated.
Regards,
Govind.
Skype: govindhowsweet



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Re: [AI] Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallengesand Evolvingdirections'

2009-03-02 Thread Vidya
How about you going through the schedule again and letting the list know the 
names of the speakers representing disabilities other than blindness?
And again for your information, I have transcripts of some other conferences 
organized by the Equal Oppurtunity Office, even though the number of 
resource persons who are themselves disabled, was negligent. If you think 
you will be speaking in a conference first of its kind, may be you need to 
brush up your information of such conferences.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mahesh Panicker" 
To: "Geetha Shamanna" ; 


Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: 
[AI]Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallengesand 
Evolvingdirections'




Hi Roopakshi. the session on gender starts at 11-30 AM , and goes up to
1-15pm.


to Vidya. it would be nice if you go through the schedule ones again, and
then make conclusions. and of course we are also awair of the kind of
seminars that keep on happening on disability. we were trying to say that
the seminar organized in JNU is the first of its kind initiated in a prime
national institution of higher education, and that in itself is an
achievement, as it should be able to facilitate greater theorization of 
the
entire issue. for your information, let me repeat, this seminar is 
organized
by the JNU Equal Opportunities Office and the JNU Visually Challenged 
Forum.

however it doesn't mean that only Visually challenged are involved. there
are people from different backgrounds.

On 3/2/09, Geetha Shamanna  wrote:


Hi Rajesh and all,

It must be said that provision of door-to-door transportation and access
technology funding by the state eliminates the two major hurdles that
prevent blind people from becoming employable. Jargon apart (whether
blindness is a disability or a handicap is not of much practical
significance), considering that the Alberta Government has taken steps to
help blind people overcome these two limitations, don't you think its
decision to scrap disability benefits is a step in the right direction? 
If

the government takes the responsibility of finding jobs with appropriate
accommodation for accessibility for all its blind residents of employable
age upon itself, then where is the problem?

Your point about the ability of a blind person to achieve 100% 
independent
productivity is valid to a large extent; but is 90% or 80% productivity 
not

better than 0%?

Geetha
- Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <
rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:01 PM
Subject: Re:
[AI]Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges
and Evolvingdirections'


Hi Amarjeet and all other friends


After all, I am compelled to step in this highly curious exchange of 
ideas

despite my initial reluctance.
Well, first of all, employability of blind, and blindness being a
disability are two different issues, I think.

True, that with technology, blind can and do work, but does this mean 
that

they have ceased to be disabled?
The attitude of Alberta government is curious, to say the least...

Now, I think a particular impairment, does limit the general 
functionality

of a person, even under most utopian conditions,  and the impairment is
transformed into an inability which we conveniently call a disability,
though personally I do not agree with the word and would like to call 
it:

"inability."
This transformation of an impairment into inability happens as a result 
of

a host of operating factors including but not limited to, structural
barriers, attitudinal dogmas, haphazard designs, and above all, 
particular

context and situation.

So, even if in a given context, like employment, the inability resulting
from impaired/absent eyesight may be reduced to varying extent, we have 
to

accept that:
1. this reduction of inability is not cent percent and as a general 
rule,
a fully productive blind employee remains a myth barring some highly 
adapted

job profiles,
and 2. whatever reverse transformation of inability into ability, is
limited to a given context, and if we see life as a whole, a person with
blindness surely is a person with disability, or rather with inability, 
and
so should not be grudged some compensatory benefits even in areas where 
that

inability is not hindering his participation to a considerable extent.

I don't know whether I have been able to make myself clear enough, but 
am

open to further exchange of ideas on or off the list about this issue.

To sum up, I would term Alberta government's de-categorization of blind 
as

non-disabled as tragic flaw and maybe, a trend setter for such callous
policies here in India as well, as we are masters in the art of copying 
and

pasting whatever is adopted in west.
God forbid, such a thing happened in US, and next year you would not see
any reservations being made for persons with disabilities here as well.

And, yes, to carry forward Albertan logic to its logical conclusion,

Re: [AI] jaws support with .pdf files

2009-03-02 Thread Janardhana Naidu

Hello Sir,
Please convert the document in to word format or text format using fine 
reader. Your problem may be solved.

With warm regards,
G. Janardhana Naidu.
- Original Message - 
From: "shikher goyal" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] jaws support with .pdf files



hello sir
i am already using acrobat 9. while opening a document, if i select
read the entire document(which is almost more than 200 pages), jaws
hangs.
and if iselect read only vcurrently visible pages, then after
completion of page, when new page prepare for reading, jaws starts
reading from beginning.
also i'll try for left to right reading option.
send me all the commands of jaws for acrobat, if you have.

i also want to know Is there any other alternative for reading .pdf
file comfortably with jaws I.E. by converting .pdf extention or
something like that or any other software.
thanks
shikher goyal

On 3/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:

Hello mr. goyal,
What you said is correct. Acrobat reader 9 is available. You can use
it to solve your problem. Moreover When you start acrobat reader, it
asks for reading order. better to choose "from left to right" your
problem may be solved.
With cheers,
Surya.

On 3/2/09, shikher goyal  wrote:

hello to all
there is some compatability issue with jaws in .pdf files. sometimes
it hangs during reading or sometime during preparing for reading and
sometimes it starts reading from beginning.
how can i read as comfortably as we read a MS word document or HTML 
page.

thanks
shikher



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[AI] Short Term Summer course

2009-03-02 Thread mitrajyothi
Dear friends,



Computer Training For Visually Impaired

SHORT TERM SUMMER COURSE



About Mitra Jyothi & Enable India



Mitra Jyothi is a registered Charitable Trust formed in 1990. This trust is 
working for visually impaired and other disabled in their Education, Training 
and Employment and at present our activities are as follows:

1. Talking Book Library to provide educational and general books on 
audiocassettes to the Blind students

2. Computer training to the Blind students

3. Braille transcription centre to provide Braille books to the needy Blind 
students

4. Independent living skill training to the Blind women

5. Job placement service to the disabled / and Blind 



Enable India is a non-profit organization working tirelessly since its 
inception from 1999 towards the economic independence and dignity of persons 
with disabilities. We cater to the needs of all kinds of disabilities like 
visually impaired, hearing impaired, physically disabled, mental retardation, 
mental illness and more across India.

Our major thrust areas are employment, pre-employment services, and work place 
solutions, supplemental education, consulting and enabling other institutions 
working for the disabled.



Introduction to Short Term Computer Training



This is an initiative from Mitra Jyothi - Enable India team towards giving 
quality computer training for visually impaired people who are working or 
studying, and not able to attend regular computer training. Main goal of this 
course is to increase the candidate’s knowledge on Computer Basics and making 
them efficient in using computers independently. This will increase the 
employment opportunities, betterment of existing job, and for higher studies. 
Duration of this Training is 2 months.

Course Details:-

Duration: 2 Months

Timings : 10:00am-5:00pm, Monday-Saturday

Date: 15th April 2009 – 15th June 2009.

Seats   : 12

Premise : Mitra Jyothi  

Contents

1.  Keyboard orientation

2.  Basic concepts such as desktop, taskbar, menus.

3.  Editing

4.  Dialog box

5.  My Computer (File/Folder management)

6.  Jaws help

7.  MS Word & its features.

8.  Scanning



Material Used:

1.  Computers with 

a.  Windows XP operating system and 

b.  Office 2003, 

c.  Jaws

d.  Talking Typing Teacher

2.  Self paced exercises for each concept.

3.  Test for final assessment.

4.  Designed Curriculum with computer concepts and employment aspects.

5.  Tactile Diagrams

What you can expect from the course:-

Our goal is to give quality in what we give. 

•   Participant will be able to Type and edit the document independently.

•   Participant will be independent in using the computer for their study 
purpose (Scanning books).

•   Participant will be independent in managing their folders & files.

•   Participant will be independent in getting help from computer & learn 
by their own.

Who are eligible?

1.  Any visually impaired person, who’s educational qualification should be 
10th pass and above.

2.  Who want to use computer skills for their education/ employment, and 
having good communication English, and basic knowledge of mathematics.



Joining Procedure:

1. Candidates have to register in Mitra Jyothi for Short term computer course. 

2. The registration fee for the course is Rs. 200.

3. Candidates have to attend the evaluation test before the training starts as 
per the Evaluation dates 

Evaluation Dates: 28th March, 3rd and 4th April 2009.

Note: Candidates will be considered as eligible only if they pass the 
evaluation tests.

Accommodation facility is available.

Accommodation with food for 2 months Rs. 2000



For further queries contact us:



Mobile: 9972248021  Ph: 080-25727623 /24 /25



Mitra Jyothi

CA Site No P22, 31st Main,

18th Cross, Sector 1, HSR Layout,

Behind (NIFT) National Institute of Fashion Technology,

Bangaluru-560102

 





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[AI] some of mail are reaching accessindia on time.`

2009-03-02 Thread govind reddy
Hello list members:
Some of my mails are not reaching the on time, why is it so? For ex:
I've send some message in the morning, the next issue which came after
2 hours does not include my mail why so? Sorry if it's silly.
Regards,
Govind.
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[AI] Naib Tahsildar

2009-03-02 Thread Pamnani
2 quick questions 
1. I have heard that a totally Blind person is functioning as a Naib Tahsildar 
somewhere inRajasthan-please can someone give me his name and contact number. 
If there are any other Tahsildar's who are totally Blind in India please let me 
know and try to give me details. 
2. Please help drafting the job description or profile of a Naib Tahsildar and 
can a totally Blind person do this job wit reasonable accomodation? 
Urgent help required today the matter is in Court tomorrow. 
Thanks 
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.




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Re: [AI] Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and Evolvingdirections'

2009-03-02 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Good morning Geetha and all

Of course, any productivity is better than none, and all of us must strive for 
it.

However, I think here we are confusing disability status and disability 
benefits as they are available in countries like USA or Canada.
It is surely warranted to take employed blind persons off the roles of social 
security in those countries, more so as government itself is providing 
employment accessibility and all.

However, in our country, such disability benefits are out of question, and out 
of question is government itself providing accessible employment to all 
employable.

I think there, the term disability is synonymous with unemployability. If so, 
blind do surely need to be out of its purview.
However, as I said, disability/inability has to be conceptualized contextually, 
and so, the status of a person as a person with a disability generally and in 
specific contexts has to be given due regard in those countries as well.
Further, legally, do they take away protections by way of disability because a 
person is employable or is actually employed?
These and some other are the points to be pondered over.
Here, of course, situation is different as I said.
Still, for the sake of argument, let us assume that government has made all the 
persons with blindness employed in an accessible way!
Now, if you take away those persons out of the fold of persons with 
disabilities in India, and deny any concessions in transport income tax etc.., 
Do you think it is justified?
Clearly not, because as I have already said, "An impairment transformed into 
inability has an all pervading impact on a persons life, and its reverse 
transformation into a neutral condition is only partial at best, and does not 
deliver such a person entirely from hardships".
Moreover, taking off persons out of the purview of persons with disabilities 
legally, because of their employed status, has far reaching consequences.

Regards

Rajesh

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Geetha Shamanna
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] 
Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and 
Evolvingdirections'

Hi Rajesh and all,

It must be said that provision of door-to-door transportation and access
technology funding by the state eliminates the two major hurdles that
prevent blind people from becoming employable. Jargon apart (whether
blindness is a disability or a handicap is not of much practical
significance), considering that the Alberta Government has taken steps to
help blind people overcome these two limitations, don't you think its
decision to scrap disability benefits is a step in the right direction? If
the government takes the responsibility of finding jobs with appropriate
accommodation for accessibility for all its blind residents of employable
age upon itself, then where is the problem?

Your point about the ability of a blind person to achieve 100% independent
productivity is valid to a large extent; but is 90% or 80% productivity not
better than 0%?

Geetha
- Original Message -
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:01 PM
Subject: Re:
[AI]Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges
and Evolvingdirections'


> Hi Amarjeet and all other friends
>
> After all, I am compelled to step in this highly curious exchange of ideas
> despite my initial reluctance.
> Well, first of all, employability of blind, and blindness being a
> disability are two different issues, I think.
>
> True, that with technology, blind can and do work, but does this mean that
> they have ceased to be disabled?
> The attitude of Alberta government is curious, to say the least...
>
> Now, I think a particular impairment, does limit the general functionality
> of a person, even under most utopian conditions,  and the impairment is
> transformed into an inability which we conveniently call a disability,
> though personally I do not agree with the word and would like to call it:
> "inability."
> This transformation of an impairment into inability happens as a result of
> a host of operating factors including but not limited to, structural
> barriers, attitudinal dogmas, haphazard designs, and above all, particular
> context and situation.
>
> So, even if in a given context, like employment, the inability resulting
> from impaired/absent eyesight may be reduced to varying extent, we have to
> accept that:
> 1. this reduction of inability is not cent percent and as a general rule,
> a fully productive blind employee remains a myth barring some highly
> adapted job profiles,
> and 2. whatever reverse transformation of inability into ability, is
> limited to a given context, and if we see life as a whole, a person with
> blindness surely is a person with disability, or rather with inability,
> and so should not be grudged s

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Re: [AI] Naib Tahsildar

2009-03-02 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Hello Kanchan

The name of tahaseeldar in Rajasthan remains elusive despite my searches...
However, I vaguely remember he was posted in some training institute for state 
revenue department or so, and not in a regular office work.

Regarding job profile of tahaseeldar/naib tahaseeldar, he/she is a officer of 
state revenue department entrusted with executing the schemes at the taluka 
level.
As such, the work may comprise of supervising the schemes, issue of various 
certificates, ensuring post disbursement supervision of utilization of 
allocated funds for various works, approving proposals/notes based on 
supporting file documents in print/handwriting, etc.
The work is performed in well lit and ventilated offices!!! and requires 
outdoors visits sometimes.
Job requirements may include: reading writing sitting standing etc...

However, most of the file work at the state level is in local language and due 
to non availability of reading/scanning technology in local language, 
computers/scanners may only be of very limited use.
So, we may say that a totally blind person can perform the work with reasonable 
accommodation if such reasonable accommodation includes live assistance in the 
form of a clerical assistance.
I think providing live assistance
full time may be construed disproportionate burden as the post is class ii at 
the taluka level, and all said and done, a totally blind person is not in a 
position to verify the numbers etc. which constitute an indispensable part of 
revenue work at taluka level.
So, we may insist on a totally blind person performing the work effectively 
only when clerical assistance is provided adequately, and nature of work 
entrusted is safe enough to warrant dispensing with cross verification of data.

Regards

Rajesh

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:38 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Naib Tahsildar

2 quick questions
1. I have heard that a totally Blind person is functioning as a Naib Tahsildar 
somewhere inRajasthan-please can someone give me his name and contact number.
If there are any other Tahsildar's who are totally Blind in India please let me 
know and try to give me details.
2. Please help drafting the job description or profile of a Naib Tahsildar and 
can a totally Blind person do this job wit reasonable accomodation?
Urgent help required today the matter is in Court tomorrow.
Thanks
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.




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[AI] Frames

2009-03-02 Thread silpa
Hello,

   While tabbing through an HTML page in forms mode, would the focus land onto 
other HTML elements such as links, combo boxes, edit boxes and so on?

Thanks in advance,
Silpa.
  


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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 04:40:54 +0530
> From: "RAKESH KUMAR GUPTA" 
>Subject: Re: [AI] Member's Gender.
>To: 
>Message-ID: <00db01c99b8c$26f580c0$0201a...@rakesh>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>"kaur" for female and "singh" is for male.
>Regards,
>- Original Message -
> From: "Amiyo Biswas" 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:40 PM
>Subject: Re: [AI] Member's Gender.
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have changed the subject line for focussing on the last thread. First,
> > let
> > me tell you that I am a man. Names may be confusing at times. Names like
> > Kiran and Kanchan may be both male and female names in India. It depends
> > on
> > the language and custom of the particular region.
> >
> > As far as my name is concerned, if I spell my name as Amiya, it becomes
> > equivalent for both male and female names in Bengali. So I always spell it
> > as Amiyo. Amarjit in Bengali sounds a male name. So, she must not be
> > offended if somebody is confused, and I am sure, she is not. I have seen
> > that Punjabi people do not distinguish between male and female names. We,
> > Bengali people, are used to calling girls by names ending with an "aa" or
> > with an "ee" sound. I appreciate the Sikh Punjabi tradition of using same
> > type of names for boys and girls and indicating a girl's name with a
> > "Kaur".
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Amiyo Biswas.
> >
> > Cell: +91-9433464329
> > Skype ID: amiyo11
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Shadab Husain" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
> >
> >
> >> Hi Ms Amarjit - thanks for this reply. Even it is very difficult for me
> > also
> >> to understand who is male and who is female here. So, I will humbly
> > request
> >> to everybody to please mention your gender. I don't think that this is
> >> off
> >> topic because knowing the genders of our friends is necessary. I am a
> > male.
> >> By the way mam, 3 3 cousin sisters of the same name in a single family
> >> and
> >> that too of a male name (Amarjit) really makes it extremely curious!!
> >> With
> >> best wishes, Shadab Husain
> >>
> >> Easy tips of improving English at
> >> http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >> My contributions to the press
> >>
> > http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#lin
> > k
> >>
> >> Many posts on one page
> >>
> > http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00
> > -08%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=47
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Amarjit Powar" 
> >> To: ; 
> >> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:46 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
> >>
> >>
> >> One of the greatest challanges in the pool of East Indian names is that
> > it's
> >> very difficult to distinguish the gender of a person just from the name
> >> as
> >> most names nowadays are becoming unisex.  For instance, I've two female
> >> cousins who too go by my first name.  To  add to the agony, south Indian
> >> mames, no disrespect to my
> >> brethren,are even more difficult to attach to a gender.  They are hard
> >> enough even for JAWS to pronounce let alone distinguish the gender.  ha
> > ha!
> >>
> >> Had Ms  Sharma not introduced herself as a female, I too might have been
> >> compelled to assume her to be a he.
> >> Amarjit
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "vibhu sharma" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:04 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Mr. surya
> >>
> >> Thanks for your guidance. Now I can download the latest version of
> > gutenburg
> >> by the st

Re: [AI] Naib Tahsildar

2009-03-02 Thread Pamnani
So at this stage can I concede the point that the work of a Naib Tahsildar 
cannot be done by the totally Blind?
Of course in tomorrow's matter I am only fighting for compensation for not 
declaring the results of a candidate. Therefore I wont have to get into the 
issue.


The problem is that while identifying the post we too have identified Naib 
Tahsildar for Low Vision and not Blind.Is this realistic or too pessimestic?
The other issue is that of Partially Sighted . The govt will have to remove 
that reservation but they will only put it for the Low Vision and not for 
the Blind.

In the meantime Rajesh please send me your disability certificate.

Thanks for the prompt responses.
Waiting for other thoughts on the issue.

Regards

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Naib Tahsildar



Hello Kanchan

The name of tahaseeldar in Rajasthan remains elusive despite my 
searches...
However, I vaguely remember he was posted in some training institute for 
state revenue department or so, and not in a regular office work.


Regarding job profile of tahaseeldar/naib tahaseeldar, he/she is a officer 
of state revenue department entrusted with executing the schemes at the 
taluka level.
As such, the work may comprise of supervising the schemes, issue of 
various certificates, ensuring post disbursement supervision of 
utilization of allocated funds for various works, approving 
proposals/notes based on supporting file documents in print/handwriting, 
etc.
The work is performed in well lit and ventilated offices!!! and requires 
outdoors visits sometimes.

Job requirements may include: reading writing sitting standing etc...

However, most of the file work at the state level is in local language and 
due to non availability of reading/scanning technology in local language, 
computers/scanners may only be of very limited use.
So, we may say that a totally blind person can perform the work with 
reasonable accommodation if such reasonable accommodation includes live 
assistance in the form of a clerical assistance.

I think providing live assistance
full time may be construed disproportionate burden as the post is class ii 
at the taluka level, and all said and done, a totally blind person is not 
in a position to verify the numbers etc. which constitute an indispensable 
part of revenue work at taluka level.
So, we may insist on a totally blind person performing the work 
effectively only when clerical assistance is provided adequately, and 
nature of work entrusted is safe enough to warrant dispensing with cross 
verification of data.


Regards

Rajesh

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani

Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:38 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Naib Tahsildar

2 quick questions
1. I have heard that a totally Blind person is functioning as a Naib 
Tahsildar somewhere inRajasthan-please can someone give me his name and 
contact number.
If there are any other Tahsildar's who are totally Blind in India please 
let me know and try to give me details.
2. Please help drafting the job description or profile of a Naib Tahsildar 
and can a totally Blind person do this job wit reasonable accomodation?

Urgent help required today the matter is in Court tomorrow.
Thanks
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.




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Re: [AI] Frames

2009-03-02 Thread Amarjit Powar

The simple answer has to be a  no.


- Original Message - 
From: "silpa" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:53 PM
Subject: [AI] Frames


Hello,

  While tabbing through an HTML page in forms mode, would the focus land 
onto other HTML elements such as links, combo boxes, edit boxes and so on?


Thanks in advance,
Silpa.



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Member's Gender. (RAKESH KUMAR GUPTA)
   2. Re: How to upload a file on to send space? (Amiyo Biswas)
   3. Re: [AI]

Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallengesand
  Evolvingdirections' (Vidya)


--

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 04:40:54 +0530
From: "RAKESH KUMAR GUPTA" 
Subject: Re: [AI] Member's Gender.
To: 
Message-ID: <00db01c99b8c$26f580c0$0201a...@rakesh>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

"kaur" for female and "singh" is for male.
Regards,
- Original Message -
From: "Amiyo Biswas" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Member's Gender.


> Hello,
>
> I have changed the subject line for focussing on the last thread. First,
> let
> me tell you that I am a man. Names may be confusing at times. Names like
> Kiran and Kanchan may be both male and female names in India. It depends
> on
> the language and custom of the particular region.
>
> As far as my name is concerned, if I spell my name as Amiya, it becomes
> equivalent for both male and female names in Bengali. So I always spell 
> it

> as Amiyo. Amarjit in Bengali sounds a male name. So, she must not be
> offended if somebody is confused, and I am sure, she is not. I have seen
> that Punjabi people do not distinguish between male and female names. 
> We,
> Bengali people, are used to calling girls by names ending with an "aa" 
> or
> with an "ee" sound. I appreciate the Sikh Punjabi tradition of using 
> same

> type of names for boys and girls and indicating a girl's name with a
> "Kaur".
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Amiyo Biswas.
>
> Cell: +91-9433464329
> Skype ID: amiyo11
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shadab Husain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
>
>
>> Hi Ms Amarjit - thanks for this reply. Even it is very difficult for me
> also
>> to understand who is male and who is female here. So, I will humbly
> request
>> to everybody to please mention your gender. I don't think that this is
>> off
>> topic because knowing the genders of our friends is necessary. I am a
> male.
>> By the way mam, 3 3 cousin sisters of the same name in a single family
>> and
>> that too of a male name (Amarjit) really makes it extremely curious!!
>> With
>> best wishes, Shadab Husain
>>
>> Easy tips of improving English at
>> http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/
>>
>> My contributions to the press
>>
> http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#lin
> k
>>
>> Many posts on one page
>>
> http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00
> -08%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=47
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Amarjit Powar" 
>> To: ; 
>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
>>
>>
>> One of the greatest challanges in the pool of East Indian names is that
> it's
>> very difficult to distinguish the gender of a person just from the name
>> as
>> most names nowadays are becoming unisex.  For instance, I've two female
>> cousins who too go by my first name.  To  add to the agony, south 
>> Indian

>> mames, no disrespect to my
>> brethren,are even more difficult to attach to a gender.  They are hard
>> enough even for JAWS to pronounce let alone distinguish the gender.  ha
> ha!
>>
>> Had Ms  Sharma not introduced herself as a female, I too might have 
>> been

>> compelled to assume her to be a he.
>> Amarjit
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "vibhu sharma" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr. surya
>>
>> Thanks for your guidance. Now I can download the latest version of
> gutenburg
>> by the steps guided by your good-self.
>>
>> I am sorry, if I sound rude, but let this be a reminder to all our
>>

Re: [AI] 515 titorials uploaded

2009-03-02 Thread Amarjit Powar

Hi Mukesh bhai:
How come I can't find your tutorials on that site.  They seem to be too 
obscure.  Please facilitate the name of the links.  For  the benefit of the 
other AI listers, please explain what these tutorials would  be on.

Thanks!
Amarjit
- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh jain" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:15 PM
Subject: [AI] 515 titorials uploaded



hullo access indians,i have uploaded 515 titorials in one single
winrar archive. if you are interested in uploading the same, please
visit the following to download for your more learning.
http://www.fileflyer.com/view/JCDBGAg
with regards,
mukesh jain.



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Re: [AI] jaws support with .pdf files

2009-03-02 Thread shikher goyal
hello to all
thanks for information
i don't have kurzweil or find reader.
how can i download it?
send me at my ID personally.
at yahoo:
shikher.go...@yahoo.co.in
at gmail:
shikag...@gmail.com
and i also want to know that there are usually many links in .pdf
file. can we use those links after converting or in kurzweil.
thanks
with regards
shikher goyal

On 3/2/09, Janardhana Naidu  wrote:
> Hello Sir,
> Please convert the document in to word format or text format using fine
> reader. Your problem may be solved.
> With warm regards,
> G. Janardhana Naidu.
> - Original Message -
> From: "shikher goyal" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] jaws support with .pdf files
>
>
>> hello sir
>> i am already using acrobat 9. while opening a document, if i select
>> read the entire document(which is almost more than 200 pages), jaws
>> hangs.
>> and if iselect read only vcurrently visible pages, then after
>> completion of page, when new page prepare for reading, jaws starts
>> reading from beginning.
>> also i'll try for left to right reading option.
>> send me all the commands of jaws for acrobat, if you have.
>>
>> i also want to know Is there any other alternative for reading .pdf
>> file comfortably with jaws I.E. by converting .pdf extention or
>> something like that or any other software.
>> thanks
>> shikher goyal
>>
>> On 3/2/09, surya narayana  wrote:
>>> Hello mr. goyal,
>>> What you said is correct. Acrobat reader 9 is available. You can use
>>> it to solve your problem. Moreover When you start acrobat reader, it
>>> asks for reading order. better to choose "from left to right" your
>>> problem may be solved.
>>> With cheers,
>>> Surya.
>>>
>>> On 3/2/09, shikher goyal  wrote:
 hello to all
 there is some compatability issue with jaws in .pdf files. sometimes
 it hangs during reading or sometime during preparing for reading and
 sometimes it starts reading from beginning.
 how can i read as comfortably as we read a MS word document or HTML
 page.
 thanks
 shikher



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