[AI] Hansraj College shut after student's death
Indo-Asian News Service New Delhi, February 10, 2010 First Published: 11:35 IST(10/2/2010) Last Updated: 11:36 IST(10/2/2010) Hansraj College shut after student's death A day after a 23-year-old visually challenged student of Hansraj College in Delhi University was found hanging in his hostel room, the college administration Wednesday called a meeting of the hostel committee to look into the matter. The college was closed Wednesday. Mukesh Kumar, a second year student of BA Hindi honours, was found hanging from a fan in his room around 7.30 p.m. Tuesday, police said. The college has been shut for the day following the death of the student. The administration will meet the college hostel committee during the day to learn more about the incident, said a college official. The police are questioning Kumar's classmates. The body has been sent for autopsy and we are awaiting the report to ascertain the time of death. Prima facie it looks to be a homicidal hanging as his hands were tied behind the body, Deputy Commissioner of Police (north) Sagarpreet Hooda told IANS. The victim was from Agra. Police said Kumar's family members reached the capital early Wednesday. Hindustan Times No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (6.0.0.19 - 10.004.132). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
It is a well drafted letter, but I would like a couple of things to be included: 1. Railway platform numbers should be marked with braile. Same thing applies to the disabled coatches. 2. Because visually impaired persons mostly come from families that are mostly uneducated, many of them face hardship in filling out reservation forms and thus they are largely forced to seek stranger's assistance. Given that it is important that railway authorities consider this as the accessibility issue and take appropriate steps to address this issue. Regards, Vetri. Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen reader for S60 phones. -original message- Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in Date: 02/10/2010 2:42 AM Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on the other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being allotted in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding whether a particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is exactly located, whether in the front or at back. This requires disabled passengers to run helter-skelter for locating it, defeating the very purpose of such a coach. Further, more often than not, it is occupied by able bodied unauthorized passengers and is not vestibuled rendering seeking any assistance by disabled passengers from RPF or ticket checking staff extremely difficult. Solution: Handicapped coach be clearly designated for travelers with disabilities and their escorts with general ordinary tickets and reservations in handicapped quota berths be
Re: [AI] Hansraj College shut after student's death
Please someone find out what happened!Shocking at one level. feeling the helplessness at the other. This kind of news coming with regularity is scary. Kanchan Pamnani Advocate Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: sandesh sandeshnaray...@nerdshack.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: [AI] Hansraj College shut after student's death Indo-Asian News Service New Delhi, February 10, 2010 First Published: 11:35 IST(10/2/2010) Last Updated: 11:36 IST(10/2/2010) Hansraj College shut after student's death A day after a 23-year-old visually challenged student of Hansraj College in Delhi University was found hanging in his hostel room, the college administration Wednesday called a meeting of the hostel committee to look into the matter. The college was closed Wednesday. Mukesh Kumar, a second year student of BA Hindi honours, was found hanging from a fan in his room around 7.30 p.m. Tuesday, police said. The college has been shut for the day following the death of the student. The administration will meet the college hostel committee during the day to learn more about the incident, said a college official. The police are questioning Kumar's classmates. The body has been sent for autopsy and we are awaiting the report to ascertain the time of death. Prima facie it looks to be a homicidal hanging as his hands were tied behind the body, Deputy Commissioner of Police (north) Sagarpreet Hooda told IANS. The victim was from Agra. Police said Kumar's family members reached the capital early Wednesday. Hindustan Times No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (6.0.0.19 - 10.004.132). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Any problem with access India mail delivery system?
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[AI] regarding very low sound after recording through gold wave
Hello friends, After uninstalling, finally I have installed gold wave 5.55. Now problem regarding sound quality after recording when I play this audio file. Sound is very very low. Even I have bought new headphone still same problem. Mike is working properly in skype. Even other audio files is also working in good way. There is very low volume only such files created by goldwave So please suggest what to do for this? Is there any change required in setting in goldwave or pc? Thanks Bijal To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Hansraj College shut after student's death
This is indeed shocking. But the way it is described it doesn't look like a suicide. It looks like he has been harmed. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of sandesh Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:32 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Hansraj College shut after student's death Indo-Asian News Service New Delhi, February 10, 2010 First Published: 11:35 IST(10/2/2010) Last Updated: 11:36 IST(10/2/2010) Hansraj College shut after student's death A day after a 23-year-old visually challenged student of Hansraj College in Delhi University was found hanging in his hostel room, the college administration Wednesday called a meeting of the hostel committee to look into the matter. The college was closed Wednesday. Mukesh Kumar, a second year student of BA Hindi honours, was found hanging from a fan in his room around 7.30 p.m. Tuesday, police said. The college has been shut for the day following the death of the student. The administration will meet the college hostel committee during the day to learn more about the incident, said a college official. The police are questioning Kumar's classmates. The body has been sent for autopsy and we are awaiting the report to ascertain the time of death. Prima facie it looks to be a homicidal hanging as his hands were tied behind the body, Deputy Commissioner of Police (north) Sagarpreet Hooda told IANS. The victim was from Agra. Police said Kumar's family members reached the capital early Wednesday. Hindustan Times No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (6.0.0.19 - 10.004.132). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n Email secured by TPML Electronics To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091 On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on the other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being allotted in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding whether a particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is exactly located, whether in the front or at back. This requires disabled passengers to run helter-skelter for locating it, defeating the very purpose of such a coach. Further, more often than not, it is occupied by able bodied unauthorized passengers and is not vestibuled rendering seeking any assistance by disabled passengers from RPF or ticket checking staff extremely difficult. Solution: Handicapped coach be clearly
[AI] regarding requist for railway ministry
Mr.Harrish it is very good thing requesting the Honourable Railway Minister about Visually Impaired demands your draft is fine go ahead, regards vivekananda To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Harish, it is a well drafted letter a small suggestion Once i have carried a printed reservation form to the Counter which is available from their websight only. the counter rejected on the reason that it had to be a written one. how strange it was but he asks me to write the form there although it is in full printed shape. a request shall be made that they have to accept the printed forms in the reservation counters as we could not write the prescribed form that will bee given there. If possible all the platforms and coaches shall be braille labeled. The chart on the handicapped coach shall also be braille labeled so that we can identify our names presented there. and finally i thank everyone for this initiative which will benefit all. On 2/10/10, Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote: It is a well drafted letter, but I would like a couple of things to be included: 1. Railway platform numbers should be marked with braile. Same thing applies to the disabled coatches. 2. Because visually impaired persons mostly come from families that are mostly uneducated, many of them face hardship in filling out reservation forms and thus they are largely forced to seek stranger's assistance. Given that it is important that railway authorities consider this as the accessibility issue and take appropriate steps to address this issue. Regards, Vetri. Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen reader for S60 phones. -original message- Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in Date: 02/10/2010 2:42 AM Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Dear Harish, Draft of presentation is prepared by you is good. One suggestion : Railway concession certificate should be permanently not for the period of five years. With warm regards Yours sincerely Praful Vyas Hon. Secretary Andhjan Kalyan Trust, Behind Jain Derasar, Station Plot, Dhoraji 360410, Dist. Rajkot, Gujarat, India. Phone: 91-2824-223502, Fax: 91-2824-223502, Mobile: 91-9426201837. E-mail: aktrust@gmail.com : prafulnv...@gmail.com Website: http://www.aktrust.org - Original Message - From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on the other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being allotted in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding whether a particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is exactly located, whether in the front or at back. This requires disabled passengers to run helter-skelter for locating it, defeating the very purpose of such a coach. Further, more often than not, it is occupied by able bodied unauthorized passengers and is not vestibuled rendering seeking any assistance by disabled passengers from RPF or ticket checking staff extremely difficult. Solution: Handicapped coach be clearly designated for travelers with disabilities and their escorts with general ordinary tickets and reservations in handicapped quota berths be given in the sleeper coach as was being done earlier. This would fulfill the purpose of the
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Hi All, In my opinion, there is no need of Separate Railway Concession Form because: 1. concession is given to disabled person by railway on only basis of proper Disability Certificate. 2. When concessions can be given to Senior citizens during booking mannual or online booking tickets without presenting their age proof document in advance with only printing instruction please bring age proof document during traveling, then why same thing may not be implemented in the matter of concession to disabled persons? Although for security major, railway can be authorised to special any hospital in each city for issuing Disability Certificate - Original Message - From: Praful Vyas prafulnv...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear Harish, Draft of presentation is prepared by you is good. One suggestion : Railway concession certificate should be permanently not for the period of five years. With warm regards Yours sincerely Praful Vyas Hon. Secretary Andhjan Kalyan Trust, Behind Jain Derasar, Station Plot, Dhoraji 360410, Dist. Rajkot, Gujarat, India. Phone: 91-2824-223502, Fax: 91-2824-223502, Mobile: 91-9426201837. E-mail: aktrust@gmail.com : prafulnv...@gmail.com Website: http://www.aktrust.org - Original Message - From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on the other hand, nowadays,
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Dear Harish: The letter covers all major elements and concerns of blind and visually impaired passengers. Just a loud thought... If this is not accepted by the railway minister, shouldn't we submit this to the court as a public interest litigation drawing the esteemed minister to the docks? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:03 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on the other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being allotted in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding whether a particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is exactly located, whether in the front or at back. This requires disabled passengers to run helter-skelter for locating it, defeating the very purpose of such a coach. Further, more often than not, it is occupied by able bodied unauthorized passengers and is not vestibuled rendering seeking any assistance by disabled passengers from RPF or ticket checking staff extremely difficult. Solution: Handicapped coach be clearly designated for travelers with disabilities and their escorts with general ordinary tickets and reservations in handicapped quota berths be given in the sleeper coach as was being done earlier. This would fulfill the purpose of the handicapped coach in the true sense of the term. All the coaches in the train and toilets in them be made disabled friendly. The handicapped coach be vestibuled and
[AI] The second part of listeners' club uploaded
Dear Friends, I received two complaints regarding the first part of this magazine. Please try again and see if it works. If not, I'll upload it again. By the tine I need to do that, here is the link to download the second part. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3479455/listeners%27%20club-part%202.zip Let me inform you all that the second part contains the audio book How to make friends and influence people By del Carnegie. It also contains speeches of our freedom fighters and our National Anthem and our National song Vande Mataram. I state this because those who do not have larger scope of downloading, can decide whether to download it or not. With best regards. - - - Ashik Hirani Landline phone: 02849-242233 Skype: ashikali.hirani I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Hi, I think, concession should be given to disabled persons only basis of their proper Disability certificate (which is issued by a board of doctors of Govt hospital), not on the basis of present Separate Railway Concession Certificate. Beside of it, during booking manually or online tickets, railway should treat to disabled passengers like senior citizens. Regards, Rakesh. Mob.:9868250258. - Original Message - From: Praful Vyas prafulnv...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear Harish, Draft of presentation is prepared by you is good. One suggestion : Railway concession certificate should be permanently not for the period of five years. With warm regards Yours sincerely Praful Vyas Hon. Secretary Andhjan Kalyan Trust, Behind Jain Derasar, Station Plot, Dhoraji 360410, Dist. Rajkot, Gujarat, India. Phone: 91-2824-223502, Fax: 91-2824-223502, Mobile: 91-9426201837. E-mail: aktrust@gmail.com : prafulnv...@gmail.com Website: http://www.aktrust.org - Original Message - From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on the other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being allotted in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding whether a particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is exactly located, whether in the front or at back. This
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Hi A few more suggestions: 1. I have a railway concession certificate. And my disability certificate says that I'm 100% blind. But I still have a little vision. So, when I go to book a ticket, they are acting as if I have brought this concession certificate illegally. So, the railway clerks should be sensitised in a way that they understand that there are some persons who are visually impaired despite having little vision. And currently, railway concession is given only to persons who are 100% blind. I think it should be given to all severely disabled, i.e., those who have more than 80% disability. 2. Like others said, the concession should be given on the basis of the disability certificate and there is no need of a separate railway concession certificate. If one such is compulsory, it should be issued in the form of a card instead of a certificate. 3. On line booking, is most needed. Shall come up with some more before tomorrow. -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 God helps those who help themselves On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on the other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being allotted in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding whether a particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is exactly located, whether in the front or at back. This requires disabled passengers to run helter-skelter for locating it, defeating the very purpose of such a coach. Further, more
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Hi, this is a good effort and the letter covers important issues. But I would like to add one more suggestion that concession facility should be extended to all severely visually impaired persons. at present the concession facility is available only to completely blind persons. moreover, the two terms: 'hundred per cent blind' and completely blind' are not synonyms. - Original Message - From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on the other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being allotted in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding whether a particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is exactly located, whether in the front or at back. This requires disabled passengers to run helter-skelter for locating it, defeating the very purpose of such a coach. Further, more often than not, it is occupied by able bodied unauthorized passengers and is not vestibuled rendering seeking any assistance by disabled passengers from RPF or ticket checking staff extremely difficult. Solution: Handicapped coach be clearly designated for travelers with disabilities and their escorts with general ordinary tickets and reservations in handicapped quota berths be given in the sleeper coach as was being done earlier. This would fulfill the purpose of the handicapped coach in the true sense of the term. All the coaches in the train and toilets in them be made disabled
[AI] How can I listen to the BBC Hindi Service?
Dear Members, I hear that some of the members listen to the BBC Hindi service on-line. I would like to do so. May I know what the process is? Actually speaking, I tried to do so, but I could not. I loaded the site www.bbc.co.uk/hindi/index.shtml, but it was not supported by JAWS. Please help. Thanks in anticipation. - - - Ashik Hirani Landline phone: 02849-242233 Skype: ashikali.hirani I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Hello, I've three points to make: 1. The coach as well as the seat number to be available in Braille as well. 2. Regarding the Tactile idea, one should observe the Delhi Metro for more information. 3. The idea of so called Handicapped coaches should be eliminated altogether. Regards, Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. - Original Message - From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on the other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being allotted in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding whether a particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is exactly located, whether in the front or at back. This requires disabled passengers to run helter-skelter for locating it, defeating the very purpose of such a coach. Further, more often than not, it is occupied by able bodied unauthorized passengers and is not vestibuled rendering seeking any assistance by disabled passengers from RPF or ticket checking staff extremely difficult. Solution: Handicapped coach be clearly designated for travelers with disabilities and their escorts with general ordinary tickets and reservations in handicapped quota berths be given in the sleeper coach as was being done earlier. This would fulfill the purpose of the handicapped coach in the true sense of the term. All the coaches in the train and toilets in them be made disabled friendly.
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Hi! I have a macanisam in my mind from few days for online booking of concession tickets. As says in the original pitition, railway should scan all the concession certificates and store in the centralise database. Then a unique number should be assigned to that perticular certificate. When a person enters that perticular number at the time of booking, all the details of that person will be automatically get displayed and when the booking process gets complete, the scanned immage will go to concern department. Thanks and regards, Rohiet - Original Message - From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hi A few more suggestions: 1. I have a railway concession certificate. And my disability certificate says that I'm 100% blind. But I still have a little vision. So, when I go to book a ticket, they are acting as if I have brought this concession certificate illegally. So, the railway clerks should be sensitised in a way that they understand that there are some persons who are visually impaired despite having little vision. And currently, railway concession is given only to persons who are 100% blind. I think it should be given to all severely disabled, i.e., those who have more than 80% disability. 2. Like others said, the concession should be given on the basis of the disability certificate and there is no need of a separate railway concession certificate. If one such is compulsory, it should be issued in the form of a card instead of a certificate. 3. On line booking, is most needed. Shall come up with some more before tomorrow. -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 God helps those who help themselves On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about
Re: [AI] How can I listen to the BBC Hindi Service?
Visit http://mailafriend.guide.real.com/index.html?link=http%3a%2f%2fwww.bbc.co.uk%2fhindi%2fmeta%2ftx%2fnb%2faajkal_au_nb.ram And click on the link titled 'Click to start Real Player'. Geetha - Original Message - From: ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com To: Access India accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:16 PM Subject: [AI] How can I listen to the BBC Hindi Service? Dear Members, I hear that some of the members listen to the BBC Hindi service on-line. I would like to do so. May I know what the process is? Actually speaking, I tried to do so, but I could not. I loaded the site www.bbc.co.uk/hindi/index.shtml, but it was not supported by JAWS. Please help. Thanks in anticipation. - - - Ashik Hirani Landline phone: 02849-242233 Skype: ashikali.hirani I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
hi vere should i send the prouffs can i book them online from http://www.irctc.co.in/ thank you Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hi! I have a macanisam in my mind from few days for online booking of concession tickets. As says in the original pitition, railway should scan all the concession certificates and store in the centralise database. Then a unique number should be assigned to that perticular certificate. When a person enters that perticular number at the time of booking, all the details of that person will be automatically get displayed and when the booking process gets complete, the scanned immage will go to concern department. Thanks and regards, Rohiet - Original Message - From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hi A few more suggestions: 1. I have a railway concession certificate. And my disability certificate says that I'm 100% blind. But I still have a little vision. So, when I go to book a ticket, they are acting as if I have brought this concession certificate illegally. So, the railway clerks should be sensitised in a way that they understand that there are some persons who are visually impaired despite having little vision. And currently, railway concession is given only to persons who are 100% blind. I think it should be given to all severely disabled, i.e., those who have more than 80% disability. 2. Like others said, the concession should be given on the basis of the disability certificate and there is no need of a separate railway concession certificate. If one such is compulsory, it should be issued in the form of a card instead of a certificate. 3. On line booking, is most needed. Shall come up with some more before tomorrow. -- G. Vamshi PH Res : +91 877-2243861 Mobile: +91 9949349497 E-mail ID: gvamsh...@gmail.com Skype: gvamshi81 God helps those who help themselves On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution:
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
there should be some one to care of blinds who have problum in mobiliti Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: srikanth kanuri skp...@gmail.com To: Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Harish, it is a well drafted letter a small suggestion Once i have carried a printed reservation form to the Counter which is available from their websight only. the counter rejected on the reason that it had to be a written one. how strange it was but he asks me to write the form there although it is in full printed shape. a request shall be made that they have to accept the printed forms in the reservation counters as we could not write the prescribed form that will bee given there. If possible all the platforms and coaches shall be braille labeled. The chart on the handicapped coach shall also be braille labeled so that we can identify our names presented there. and finally i thank everyone for this initiative which will benefit all. On 2/10/10, Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote: It is a well drafted letter, but I would like a couple of things to be included: 1. Railway platform numbers should be marked with braile. Same thing applies to the disabled coatches. 2. Because visually impaired persons mostly come from families that are mostly uneducated, many of them face hardship in filling out reservation forms and thus they are largely forced to seek stranger's assistance. Given that it is important that railway authorities consider this as the accessibility issue and take appropriate steps to address this issue. Regards, Vetri. Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen reader for S60 phones. -original message- Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in Date: 02/10/2010 2:42 AM Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted
[AI] draft petition to railway minister
Hello friends, The suggestions made are absolutely perfect .I am having one more suggestion, while booking abearth as much as possible lower bearth should be provided for a disabled person Thanks and regards--Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Fw: mobile information.
- Original Message - From: Arun Kurkute arunkurk...@gmail.com To: Arun Kurkute arunkurk...@gmail.com; arunkurcute arunkurc...@rediffmail.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:47 PM Subject: mobile information. New trick for security.. If someone forgets security code then hold the menu key for a while then it will appear now press * then give star and ur phone will unlock. easiest and best way to open keypad if u forget ur security code. Its working and 100% true Type *#06# After you enter the code you will see a new code contain 15 digits: 43 4 5 6 6 1 0 6 7 8 9 4 3 5 IF the digit number Seven Eight is 02 or 20 that mean it was Assembly on Emirates which is very Bad quality IF the digit number Seven Eight is 08 or 80 that mean it?s manufactured in Germany which is not bad IF the digit number Seven Eight is 01 or 10 that mean it?s manufactured in Finland which is Good IF the digit number Seven Eight is 00 that mean it was manufactured in original factory which is the best Mobile Quality ... IF the digit number Seven Eight is 13 that mean it was Assembly on Azerbaijan which is very Bad quality and very dangerous for health!! write abt ur sets Your Mobile Battery is Very Low, you are expecting an important call and you don't have a c harger. Nokia instrument comes with a reserve battery. To activate the battery, the key-in *3370# your cell will restart with this reserve and your instrument will show a 50% increase in battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your mobile next time. Learn how to unlock your car with mobile phone, if you forget your keys in car and spare keys are at home Keys Locked in the Car? This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a Mobile Phone: If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home which is far away from your car and it is difficult to go at home by foot, call someone at home from your mobile phone . Hold your mobile phone about a foot from your car door and have the other person at your home press the Unlock button from the spare key, holding it near the phone on their end. Your car will be unlocked. Saves time for someone to drive your keys to you. Distance is not a problem. You could be hundreds of miles away and if you can reach someone who has the other remote for your car, you can unlock the doors or the boot. Learn how to remove virus or some unwanted thing from your mobile phone Shit happens, or any virus has attacked your mobile, its inevitable u do something wrong, Now what to do you simply have to format your phone. To format the phone, press *#7370#, then enter the lock code, which is the sec code of the phone. NOTE: battery must be filled, else if format is disrupted by low battery, consequences will be disastrous I heard the code *#7780# works too, pretty much the same i think. For 6600 users, to format the fone, there's an alternative way. Press and hold 3, *, and the buttons, then power on fone, keep holding on the 3 buttons, till u come to a format screen. tis method ONLY works on 6600, and need not enter the sec code. BUT sec code wun be reset to default 12345 Call Hurry In standby mode, 45# + dials the number on your sim in memory slot 45. 50# + dials slot 50 and so on. Display an image when someone's calling: Menu Contacts select a contact card Options Edit Options Add thumbnail choose an image. view version u are Using in urs mobile ! Type *## to view which firmware version you are running. Here we give three methods to free more ram on your mobile phone. Method 1: Flight mode: Put your phone in Flight mode with Psiloc System Tools. Install System Tools, open it and select Flight mode. This way you can restart the phone without your SIM card so there will be no running phone tasks in the background. Now you can have up to 3,5 MB of free RAM! Note: ironically enough, Flight mode doesn't work when Smart Launcher is installed, at least in my case. But i've also heard several reports of people who have both apps running without any problems. Method 2: Smart Launcher trick: Install Smart Launcher and open it. Go to Options, Settings and put Launcher ON. Now plug in your charger and switch off your phone. Wait until the battery meter appears and short press the Menu button (don't hold). The menu should appear and now you can have 3,5 to 4,5 MB free RAM! (Hold Menu button to check RAM). The trick is that with the charger plugged in, the phone must get a minimum software support for charging, even when the phone is switched off. And somehow Smart Launcher has still got it's shortcut running and that's the Menu button. So when you press the Menu button, you go directly to the Menu without any other phone tasks running in the background so you trick the phone and you have more free RAM! Note: when you unplug the charger, the phone will switch off. Method 3: Menu : This method I found it by myself, it frees a little about 100~200 KB but I guess it's useful sometime
Re: [AI] test mail
hi! nice to c you here on this list happy posting Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Sagar Sodah saga...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] test mail Testing Hi I am a new member in access India. My name is Sagar Sodah. I am studying in 2nd year Software Engineering and Embedded Systems at Mcmaster University, Hamilton, Canada. I was born in Mumbai and mostly brought up in Kuwait. I came to Canada for to get my bachelors degree. I just saw a test mail, so though i would test too. Then i thought i will introduce myself along with the testing :D Cheers! Sagar “Never let what you cannot do interfere with what you can.” American Basketball coach John Wood. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.comwrote: please ignore. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister
Dear Member, I want to give you one more suggestion that is so many blind people need assistance on the railway station, so if we can request to start facilitation counter like air port. - Original Message - From: Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Hello friends, The suggestions made are absolutely perfect .I am having one more suggestion, while booking abearth as much as possible lower bearth should be provided for a disabled person Thanks and regards--Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] How can I listen to the BBC Hindi Service?
hello, my website, www.prateekagarwal.webs.com provides this facility to listen the latest shows of BBC hindi service on just a click. on the website, all you need to do is to enter a link call bbc hindi radio and then choose the show you'd want to listen. as soon you enter on the show, it should start playing in your brouzer or default media player depending on the settings that you've configgured. in fact, i would suggest the same those as well who are using mobile phones and would like to listen the BBC hindi on their mobiles. regards, Prateek agarwal. Skype: Prateek_agarwal32 Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope: http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs. You tell, I’ll build. -- Original message -- From: Geetha Shamanna gee...@millernorbert.de To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:29:51 - Subject: Re: [AI] How can I listen to the BBC Hindi Service? Visit http://mailafriend.guide.real.com/index.html?link=http%3a%2f%2fwww.bbc.co.uk%2fhindi%2fmeta%2ftx%2fnb%2faajkal_au_nb.ram And click on the link titled 'Click to start Real Player'. Geetha - Original Message - From: ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com To: Access India accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:16 PM Subject: [AI] How can I listen to the BBC Hindi Service? Dear Members, I hear that some of the members listen to the BBC Hindi service on-line. I would like to do so. May I know what the process is? Actually speaking, I tried to do so, but I could not. I loaded the site www.bbc.co.uk/hindi/index.shtml, but it was not supported by JAWS. Please help. Thanks in anticipation. - - - Ashik Hirani Landline phone: 02849-242233 Skype: ashikali.hirani I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my necklace. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister
Hi every one! This is Srikanth. They are providing concession till three tire A C. if possible, can we request them to provide concession for A C two tire also? Regards, -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Suman Kumar Bhokray Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:11 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister there should be some one to care of blinds who have problum in mobiliti Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: srikanth kanuri skp...@gmail.com To: Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Harish, it is a well drafted letter a small suggestion Once i have carried a printed reservation form to the Counter which is available from their websight only. the counter rejected on the reason that it had to be a written one. how strange it was but he asks me to write the form there although it is in full printed shape. a request shall be made that they have to accept the printed forms in the reservation counters as we could not write the prescribed form that will bee given there. If possible all the platforms and coaches shall be braille labeled. The chart on the handicapped coach shall also be braille labeled so that we can identify our names presented there. and finally i thank everyone for this initiative which will benefit all. On 2/10/10, Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote: It is a well drafted letter, but I would like a couple of things to be included: 1. Railway platform numbers should be marked with braile. Same thing applies to the disabled coatches. 2. Because visually impaired persons mostly come from families that are mostly uneducated, many of them face hardship in filling out reservation forms and thus they are largely forced to seek stranger's assistance. Given that it is important that railway authorities consider this as the accessibility issue and take appropriate steps to address this issue. Regards, Vetri. Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen reader for S60 phones. -original message- Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in Date: 02/10/2010 2:42 AM Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring
Re: [AI] regarding very low sound after recording through gold wave
Do F11 and go to volume and check microphone volume. If it is less than 100, type 100 and go to okay and hit enter. - Original Message - From: Bijal Patel bijalpatel...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: Voice Vision. voicevis...@blindinfo.org; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:38 AM Subject: [AI] regarding very low sound after recording through gold wave Hello friends, After uninstalling, finally I have installed gold wave 5.55. Now problem regarding sound quality after recording when I play this audio file. Sound is very very low. Even I have bought new headphone still same problem. Mike is working properly in skype. Even other audio files is also working in good way. There is very low volume only such files created by goldwave So please suggest what to do for this? Is there any change required in setting in goldwave or pc? Thanks Bijal To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister
hello intersting Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S how did you do your M.B.B.S plz dont mind r u not blind? Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Hello friends, The suggestions made are absolutely perfect .I am having one more suggestion, while booking abearth as much as possible lower bearth should be provided for a disabled person Thanks and regards--Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Excellent! Even I want this to happen. And please try to get online permission for booking tickets. Regards, -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rakesh Kumar Gupta Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:51 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hi All, In my opinion, there is no need of Separate Railway Concession Form because: 1. concession is given to disabled person by railway on only basis of proper Disability Certificate. 2. When concessions can be given to Senior citizens during booking mannual or online booking tickets without presenting their age proof document in advance with only printing instruction please bring age proof document during traveling, then why same thing may not be implemented in the matter of concession to disabled persons? Although for security major, railway can be authorised to special any hospital in each city for issuing Disability Certificate - Original Message - From: Praful Vyas prafulnv...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear Harish, Draft of presentation is prepared by you is good. One suggestion : Railway concession certificate should be permanently not for the period of five years. With warm regards Yours sincerely Praful Vyas Hon. Secretary Andhjan Kalyan Trust, Behind Jain Derasar, Station Plot, Dhoraji 360410, Dist. Rajkot, Gujarat, India. Phone: 91-2824-223502, Fax: 91-2824-223502, Mobile: 91-9426201837. E-mail: aktrust@gmail.com : prafulnv...@gmail.com Website: http://www.aktrust.org - Original Message - From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem:
Re: [AI] test mail
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Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister
This facility indeed exists in Delhi metro trains and it can be used as an example to put forward the case. Regards, Vetri. Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen reader for S60 phones. -original message- Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister From: Madhu Singhal madhu.singha...@gmail.com Date: 02/10/2010 11:43 AM Dear Member, I want to give you one more suggestion that is so many blind people need assistance on the railway station, so if we can request to start facilitation counter like air port. - Original Message - From: Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Hello friends, The suggestions made are absolutely perfect .I am having one more suggestion, while booking abearth as much as possible lower bearth should be provided for a disabled person Thanks and regards--Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister
I am not against that suggestion, but we are focussing on accessibility issues at the moment right? Correct me if I am wrong. Regards, Vetri. Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen reader for S60 phones. -original message- Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister From: Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com Date: 02/10/2010 12:30 PM Hi every one! This is Srikanth. They are providing concession till three tire A C. if possible, can we request them to provide concession for A C two tire also? Regards, -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Suman Kumar Bhokray Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:11 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister there should be some one to care of blinds who have problum in mobiliti Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: srikanth kanuri skp...@gmail.com To: Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Harish, it is a well drafted letter a small suggestion Once i have carried a printed reservation form to the Counter which is available from their websight only. the counter rejected on the reason that it had to be a written one. how strange it was but he asks me to write the form there although it is in full printed shape. a request shall be made that they have to accept the printed forms in the reservation counters as we could not write the prescribed form that will bee given there. If possible all the platforms and coaches shall be braille labeled. The chart on the handicapped coach shall also be braille labeled so that we can identify our names presented there. and finally i thank everyone for this initiative which will benefit all. On 2/10/10, Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote: It is a well drafted letter, but I would like a couple of things to be included: 1. Railway platform numbers should be marked with braile. Same thing applies to the disabled coatches. 2. Because visually impaired persons mostly come from families that are mostly uneducated, many of them face hardship in filling out reservation forms and thus they are largely forced to seek stranger's assistance. Given that it is important that railway authorities consider this as the accessibility issue and take appropriate steps to address this issue. Regards, Vetri. Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen reader for S60 phones. -original message- Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in Date: 02/10/2010 2:42 AM Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister
Hi all, 1. We need tactile markings before every set of stairs. 2. We are asking for Braille signage. How will we know where the signs are located? 3. There are displays which show which train will come on which platform. There are also displays on the platform which give you where a particular coach will be situated. This allows you to stand in that position and board the coach with comfort. We need access to both pieces of information. As regards the first part about the train coming on a given platform, announcements are made but they are made when the train is about to come on the platform. Things are very crowded at that time and some trains stop for a very short time. So, we need the information on those displays so that we can get to the platform in advance. 4. There should be a querying mechanism that will allow passengers to determine the current location of the train. You could have announcements but what do you do in trains that travel over night? You won't want to be disturbed with station location announcements in the middle of the night. Pranav To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Objectionable language by Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!?
First of all, This reply mail is against the subject line and Secondly, concerned person has used objectionable language in this mail, which should immediately be stopped with appropriate action against the person. Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Suman Kumar Bhokray ad...@bhokray.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister hello intersting Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S how did you do your M.B.B.S plz dont mind r u not blind? Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Hello friends, The suggestions made are absolutely perfect .I am having one more suggestion, while booking abearth as much as possible lower bearth should be provided for a disabled person Thanks and regards--Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] BBC
BBC News - Disabled students wait for specialist equipment grants BBC NEWS Disabled students wait for grants By Katherine Sellgren BBC News education and family Almost 12,500 students in England are still waiting for grants to pay for specialist equipment, figures from the Student Loans Company show. The statistics reveal two thirds of students with a disability or special needs are still waiting for money. The figures were obtained by the Conservatives following a Freedom of Information request. The SLC, which was criticised for its mismanagement of regular student loans, says it is reviewing its processes. Tens of thousands of students were forced to start the academic year without their full loan and grant entitlement after problems with the processing of applications. A 10% increase in applications for university places coincided with changes to the way first-time loan applications were dealt with and technical problems. Students complained of lost personal documents, jammed telephone lines and delays in approval for their loans. The latest figures show at the end of January some 16,000 English-based students are still waiting for at least some of their money. A further 2,000, whose claims have been fully processed, are waiting for their first payment. These delays have had a knock-on effect for students with disabilities, because - in England - disabled students' allowances (DSAs) are administered by the SLC. Of the 19,006 eligible DSA applications, only 6,507 have been fully processed and approved by the SLC. This means that, almost four months after term started, only 34% of eligible applications have been processed. Personal helpers DSAs are available for all UK students with a disability and are used to buy specialist computer equipment resources such as Braille paper, or to pay for personal helpers to assist on campus. The allowance is paid in Scotland by the Student Awards Agency for Scotland, in Wales by the Welsh Assembly government through local bodies and in Northern Ireland by the education and library boards. These figures are truly shocking David Willetts, Shadow Universities and Skills Secretary David Gibson is studying for a post-graduate qualification in teaching at the Institute of Education in London and wants to teach geography. He said he has yet to receive his DSA to cover expenses related to his dyspraxia and dyslexia. Mr Gibson said the allowance would cover a computer and software to help him with his studies, as well as a mentor to talk to occasionally. It is the most stressful time I've had in the past 30 years, he said. The SLC said the application process for DSAs took longer than applications for other types of student finance. We are still awaiting information from 5,179 assessment centres and more than 4,297 students, and are processing the remainder of applications as quickly as possible, a spokesman said. We are currently reviewing the process and procedures for targeted students in consultation with relevant organisations and special interest groups and we will also be improving the training of specialist advisers. Before students with disabilities are given DSAs, they are assessed. Chair of the National Network of Assessment Centres Lesley Morrice said it appeared that the SLC was trying to blame the delays on the assessment centres and on the students. That was unacceptable, she said: We work to tight deadlines when processing students' assessments. There is no evidence of significant delays at the assessment centres on this sort of scale. I have been an assessment centre manager for over 12 years and these delays are unprecedented. The SLC implemented changes without proper consultation and without appreciating the impact on students. 'Students deserve better' Shadow universities and skills secretary David Willetts said: These figures are truly shocking. Almost four months after term started, and two months after the government said the problems were being fixed, thousands of disabled students are still waiting for the funding they need to pay for vital equipment. Twice as many disabled students have not been paid their grants as have been paid them. Ministers are still passing the buck and still failing to deliver. Students deserve better - much better. An inquiry into the loans delays led by Professor Sir Deian Hopkin, which reported in December, complained of conspicuous failures. Two managers later left the SLC under a restructuring programme. Read some of your comments: I've been applying for the DSA for two years - last year I sent off the application and did not receive any response from them - and this year I'm still waiting for the second application. The current system is completely unacceptable, causing more problems for disabled students who need aid with this money. It is hard enough to survive in the normal life, but with pressures of
[AI] Love twist to student's murder
Love twist to student's murder Staff Reporter | New Delhi A day after Mukesh Kumar Baghel (22), a visually impaired student of Hans Raj College of Delhi University, was found hanging in his hostel room, Delhi Police have registered a case of murder, suspecting a love triangle behind the killing. According to police sources, the investigators of the case have recovered a piece of paper from the possession of the deceased in which the victim has written the name of three persons including a girl's using Braille. Sources said that during investigation a close friend of Mukesh told investigators that Mukesh was very close to a girl who is reportedly his classmate and the daughter of the hostel security staff. Mukesh, a second year BA Hindi honours student, was found hanging from the ceiling fan in room number 143 on the first floor of the hostel on Tuesday evening. Apparently, the police suspected it a case of suicide but later pronounced a case of blind murder, as the hands of the deceased were found tied in front with a rope. Moreover, a stool was found inches below his feet, which the police claim should have been kicked away by the victim had he used it to hang himself. Claiming foul play, Rajesh, a close relative of the victim, said that the police have seized the paper in which Mukesh had written name of three persons. After finding the note, the police asked a visually disabled student to translate it as it was written using the Braille system. Names that were written on that paper were those of Smita, who is Mukesh's classmate and resides in the hostel's staff quarters, and Avinash. I can not recall the name of the third person, said Rajesh, adding Smita was questioned then and there by senior police officers. Asked on what grounds he claims that Mukesh was murdered, Rajesh further said that one Ashwani, who is Mukesh's school friend, told police that Mukesh was close to the girl. He told the police that the girl frequently used to talk to Mukesh over his cell phone. Even the family members of the girl were aware of their friendship and had never stopped them from doing that. But in real sense the girl was in love with another boy and she used to talk to him saying her parents that she was talking to Mukesh. Ashwani told us that Mukesh had developed some liking towards that girl. We suspect that he has been killed either by the boyfriend of that girl or her family members, added Rajesh. Mukesh's elder brother Gurdayal also supported Rajesh's claims. Investigators, however, refused to comment on it. Police said the incident came to light around 7.30 pm on Tuesday after they received a call at PCR. After receiving the call we reached the hostel and found the victim hanging by a plastic rope. His hands had been tied with a piece of same rope. We have sent the body to Subzi Mandi mortuary for post mortem examination, said a police official, adding they are investigating the matter from different angles. We have registered a case of murder and looking into the matter, said Deputy Commissioner of Police (North), Sagar Preet Hooda. Asked if the victim was sodomised before murder, DCP Hooda added, Things would be clarified only after the post mortem examination report. Recalling the incident one of the hostel residents, who wished not to publish his name, said that Mukesh was last seen in the afternoon. The hostel resident said that the victim had not turned up for his lunch also. Around 7 pm, Himanshu, another visually disabled resident of our hostel, went inside his room to call him for evening snacks. He called Mukesh by his name but there was no response from his side. Thinking that he might be sleeping on his bed Himanshu using his hands searched him on the bed but he was not there. He, however, found Mukesh's wallet on the bed. Himanshu then told a security guard who later went inside the room and found Mukesh hanging, said the hostel resident. Meanwhile, a committee of four staff, including the hostel warden, the assistant warden and two teachers of Hans Raj College, has been formed to enquire into the matter. Email | Print | Rate: 12345 Post Comment http://www.dailypioneer.com/235339/Love-twist-to-student's-murder.html Vikas Kapoor, MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Objectionable languageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!?
what? objectionable language did i use. this mailing list is for blind i was just asking that she is blind r not thats it because i never herd about doctor who is blind if you r realy that strong about subject lines i dint note it but comeing to objectionable language no i dint use Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in; har...@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Objectionable languageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!? First of all, This reply mail is against the subject line and Secondly, concerned person has used objectionable language in this mail, which should immediately be stopped with appropriate action against the person. Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Suman Kumar Bhokray ad...@bhokray.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister hello intersting Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S how did you do your M.B.B.S plz dont mind r u not blind? Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Hello friends, The suggestions made are absolutely perfect .I am having one more suggestion, while booking abearth as much as possible lower bearth should be provided for a disabled person Thanks and regards--Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Objectionablelanguageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!?
Way of asking style is not lookking good. If you have personal question from a member of group, then make contact personally to him / her. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Suman Kumar Bhokray ad...@bhokray.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Objectionablelanguageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!? what? objectionable language did i use. this mailing list is for blind i was just asking that she is blind r not thats it because i never herd about doctor who is blind if you r realy that strong about subject lines i dint note it but comeing to objectionable language no i dint use Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in; har...@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Objectionable languageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!? First of all, This reply mail is against the subject line and Secondly, concerned person has used objectionable language in this mail, which should immediately be stopped with appropriate action against the person. Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Suman Kumar Bhokray ad...@bhokray.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister hello intersting Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S how did you do your M.B.B.S plz dont mind r u not blind? Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Hello friends, The suggestions made are absolutely perfect .I am having one more suggestion, while booking abearth as much as possible lower bearth should be provided for a disabled person Thanks and regards--Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] SANCB brail voting templet initiative on Inclusive Planet
Hi Inclusive Planet is inviting inputs and suggestions on the SANCB brail voting templet initiative. Here is the link: http://www.inclusiveplanet.com/en/group/453603 You may comment even without seeking membership. Please contribute. Moiz. -- Moiz Tundawala 5th Year, B.A./B.Sc. LLB Hons., West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, NUJS Bhavan, 12 LB, Sector III, Salt Lake City, Kolkata, 700 098 Ph: +919874396052 To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister
They do even in AC first and two tire, but it is 50% and not 75% Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vetrivel Adhimoolam Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:08 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister I am not against that suggestion, but we are focussing on accessibility issues at the moment right? Correct me if I am wrong. Regards, Vetri. Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen reader for S60 phones. -original message- Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister From: Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com Date: 02/10/2010 12:30 PM Hi every one! This is Srikanth. They are providing concession till three tire A C. if possible, can we request them to provide concession for A C two tire also? Regards, -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Suman Kumar Bhokray Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:11 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister there should be some one to care of blinds who have problum in mobiliti Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: srikanth kanuri skp...@gmail.com To: Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Harish, it is a well drafted letter a small suggestion Once i have carried a printed reservation form to the Counter which is available from their websight only. the counter rejected on the reason that it had to be a written one. how strange it was but he asks me to write the form there although it is in full printed shape. a request shall be made that they have to accept the printed forms in the reservation counters as we could not write the prescribed form that will bee given there. If possible all the platforms and coaches shall be braille labeled. The chart on the handicapped coach shall also be braille labeled so that we can identify our names presented there. and finally i thank everyone for this initiative which will benefit all. On 2/10/10, Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com wrote: It is a well drafted letter, but I would like a couple of things to be included: 1. Railway platform numbers should be marked with braile. Same thing applies to the disabled coatches. 2. Because visually impaired persons mostly come from families that are mostly uneducated, many of them face hardship in filling out reservation forms and thus they are largely forced to seek stranger's assistance. Given that it is important that railway authorities consider this as the accessibility issue and take appropriate steps to address this issue. Regards, Vetri. Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen reader for S60 phones. -original message- Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in Date: 02/10/2010 2:42 AM Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This
Re: [AI] draft petition to railway ministerObjectionablelanguageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!?
thank you so mutch for your kind guidence any ways what to do i am not that good at english as you wishes Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in; har...@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway ministerObjectionablelanguageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!? Way of asking style is not lookking good. If you have personal question from a member of group, then make contact personally to him / her. Regards, Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Suman Kumar Bhokray ad...@bhokray.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Objectionablelanguageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!? what? objectionable language did i use. this mailing list is for blind i was just asking that she is blind r not thats it because i never herd about doctor who is blind if you r realy that strong about subject lines i dint note it but comeing to objectionable language no i dint use Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in; har...@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Objectionable languageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!? First of all, This reply mail is against the subject line and Secondly, concerned person has used objectionable language in this mail, which should immediately be stopped with appropriate action against the person. Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Suman Kumar Bhokray ad...@bhokray.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister hello intersting Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S how did you do your M.B.B.S plz dont mind r u not blind? Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Hello friends, The suggestions made are absolutely perfect .I am having one more suggestion, while booking abearth as much as possible lower bearth should be provided for a disabled person Thanks and regards--Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
[AI] a note about announcements
All: Regarding the railways draft, there have been several references to announcements made in train stations. I find these announcements almost impossible to hear in the station and therefore, the information they convey is useless. Mostly, they just add to the noise level. Other ways of getting vital information must be available. Is it possible for there to be a phone number we can call while in the station to an office in that same station to get the same information that is being displayed on various screens or displays? Jean To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister
Harish, The draft looks useful. Here are some of my suggestions: 1. The sequence of items mentioned in the draft should be based on how important we feel each of those to be. The first 2 points about concessions to me are less important than the safety and ease of travel for disabled passengers and I would move the sections related to accidents, tactile markings, announcements, disabled coaches etc. to the top. Alternatively, we can have the document divided into headings: Ticket reservations, Passenger safety, Platform facilities and building design, employee sensitivity trainings etc. These headings will make the document look better thought through. 2. The document makes some factual statements like there have been several accidents because of x reason or this will be more in line with international treaties. It will be good to support these with references to documentation/reports that may have come out from any inquiry committees or with the name of the international treaties we are referring to here. 3. The top of the letter mentions the scope of the document as including disabled railway employees but the rest of the document only talks about passengers. I think it will be better to focus only on passengers and not bring up the equal opportunity employment issue here. It sort of dilutes the intent of the letter. 4. The letter needs to make clear somewhere that the suggestions given here are just samples of what can be done and the ministry can engage with organizations/experts working in the disability field to come up with and implement a comprehensive solution with a clear plan to address the quick wins in the short term and starting larger initiatives on an ongoing basis. The document does refer to this in the last section but I don't think collaboration with people working in the disability field is brought out from the language used. The above are just my views and not meant to criticize anyone. I think this is a very useful initiative. Regards, Manish -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:58 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister Hi all, 1. We need tactile markings before every set of stairs. 2. We are asking for Braille signage. How will we know where the signs are located? 3. There are displays which show which train will come on which platform. There are also displays on the platform which give you where a particular coach will be situated. This allows you to stand in that position and board the coach with comfort. We need access to both pieces of information. As regards the first part about the train coming on a given platform, announcements are made but they are made when the train is about to come on the platform. Things are very crowded at that time and some trains stop for a very short time. So, we need the information on those displays so that we can get to the platform in advance. 4. There should be a querying mechanism that will allow passengers to determine the current location of the train. You could have announcements but what do you do in trains that travel over night? You won't want to be disturbed with station location announcements in the middle of the night. Pranav To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister
I second the idea. Perhaps reference can be made to the international treaty on the treatment of the air-passengers. Unfortunately I am unable to give you the exact reference. Second, you guise also may wish to look at the disability policy of the MTA of New York. The web site address is: http://www.mta.info Regards, Vetri. Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen reader for S60 phones. -original message- Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister From: Manish Agrawal manis...@gmail.com Date: 02/11/2010 12:04 AM Harish, The draft looks useful. Here are some of my suggestions: 1. The sequence of items mentioned in the draft should be based on how important we feel each of those to be. The first 2 points about concessions to me are less important than the safety and ease of travel for disabled passengers and I would move the sections related to accidents, tactile markings, announcements, disabled coaches etc. to the top. Alternatively, we can have the document divided into headings: Ticket reservations, Passenger safety, Platform facilities and building design, employee sensitivity trainings etc. These headings will make the document look better thought through. 2. The document makes some factual statements like there have been several accidents because of x reason or this will be more in line with international treaties. It will be good to support these with references to documentation/reports that may have come out from any inquiry committees or with the name of the international treaties we are referring to here. 3. The top of the letter mentions the scope of the document as including disabled railway employees but the rest of the document only talks about passengers. I think it will be better to focus only on passengers and not bring up the equal opportunity employment issue here. It sort of dilutes the intent of the letter. 4. The letter needs to make clear somewhere that the suggestions given here are just samples of what can be done and the ministry can engage with organizations/experts working in the disability field to come up with and implement a comprehensive solution with a clear plan to address the quick wins in the short term and starting larger initiatives on an ongoing basis. The document does refer to this in the last section but I don't think collaboration with people working in the disability field is brought out from the language used. The above are just my views and not meant to criticize anyone. I think this is a very useful initiative. Regards, Manish -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:58 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister Hi all, 1. We need tactile markings before every set of stairs. 2. We are asking for Braille signage. How will we know where the signs are located? 3. There are displays which show which train will come on which platform. There are also displays on the platform which give you where a particular coach will be situated. This allows you to stand in that position and board the coach with comfort. We need access to both pieces of information. As regards the first part about the train coming on a given platform, announcements are made but they are made when the train is about to come on the platform. Things are very crowded at that time and some trains stop for a very short time. So, we need the information on those displays so that we can get to the platform in advance. 4. There should be a querying mechanism that will allow passengers to determine the current location of the train. You could have announcements but what do you do in trains that travel over night? You won't want to be disturbed with station location announcements in the middle of the night. Pranav To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] help needed about accessible accounting softwares
On 2/8/10, sunilsangtani sunilsangtan...@gmail.com wrote: -- sunil sangtani dear list members goodmorning to all, i am in need of some accessible softwares for accounting purpase. is there any software for accounting purpase apart from tally? i have jaws scripts for tally, but dont know that how to use tally. does tally can fullfill my needs? -- sunil sangtani To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091 On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many
Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 46, Issue 42
Dear friends, This is my first letter to Access India. I congratulate for moving a draft petition to Rail Minister. I have some suggestions and, if you find them appropriate, please consider them. 1. The concession tickets for the blind should be allowed in Rajdhani and Shatabdi also and 75% discount ought to be given as applicable in sleeper class. 2. The railways should provide escort to visually handicapped persons if request is made. 3. The coach for the disabled should be available to disabled persons and their escorts. Unauthorised persons use this coach as a safe heaven for alcohol drink, gambling, and travelling without ticket. Further, the toilets are filthy and they are hel on the earth. Therefore, strict vigil should be kept. Many a time, rail staff creates problems for handicapped persons. If some one does not get concessional ticket, one has to buy the full ticket. The rail staff says that if one does not have concessional ticket, one cannot travel in this coach, even though the disability may be hundred per cent. 4. One has to think the actual utility of braille charts, because the first problem will be of locating the Braille chart and labels. Reading the chart will be a time consuming affair. However, I am not against it. 5. It will be safer if a cemented fence is constructed on the side of the platform. Thanks. Dr. R.B.L. Soni On 2/11/10, accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in wrote: Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to accessindia@accessindia.org.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in You can reach the person managing the list at accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: draft petition to railway minister Objectionable languageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!? (Rakesh Kumar Gupta) 2. BBC (Kanchan Pamnani) 3. Love twist to student's murder (Vikas Kapoor) 4. Re: draft petition to railway minister Objectionable languageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!? (Suman Kumar Bhokray) 5. Re: draft petition to railway minister Objectionablelanguageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!? (Rakesh Kumar Gupta) 6. SANCB brail voting templet initiative on Inclusive Planet (moiz tundawala) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:05:07 +0530 From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in, har...@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Objectionable languageby Shri Suman Kumar Bhokray!? Message-ID: 005101caaab2$1bfc4a60$0401a...@rakesh Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response First of all, This reply mail is against the subject line and Secondly, concerned person has used objectionable language in this mail, which should immediately be stopped with appropriate action against the person. Rakesh. - Original Message - From: Suman Kumar Bhokray ad...@bhokray.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] draft petition to railway minister hello intersting Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S how did you do your M.B.B.S plz dont mind r u not blind? Suman Kumar Bhokray mobile: +91 9912746392 US number: +1 3608122369 skype: sbhokray windows live: ad...@bhokray.com yahoo: sumankumarbhokray Gtalk: ad...@bhokray.com sip phone: 17476589...@proxy01.sipphone.com gizmo: sbhokray orkut: ad...@bhokray.com face book: sumankumarbhok...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: Dr Jalaja jalajakumar...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: [AI] draft petition to railway minister Hello friends, The suggestions made are absolutely perfect .I am having one more suggestion, while booking abearth as much as possible lower bearth should be provided for a disabled person Thanks and regards--Dr.Jalaja M. B. B. S. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister
Dear Friends, The draft petition is well-drafted covers most of the immediate requirements for safe travel. Regarding suburban local trains in Mumbai, I would suggest the following (they may also apply to other train services). 1. Provision of a helpdesk at the stations for enquiries about trains to particular station the platform from where they will depart. 2. Speeding up conversion of trains from old 9 12 coach trains to newer ones. The old trains have a small compartment while the newer ones have half a coach for the handicapped. I also support online booking of tickets for the disabled with the certificate produced for examination during journey. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India - Original Message - From: Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:57 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister Hi all, 1. We need tactile markings before every set of stairs. 2. We are asking for Braille signage. How will we know where the signs are located? 3. There are displays which show which train will come on which platform. There are also displays on the platform which give you where a particular coach will be situated. This allows you to stand in that position and board the coach with comfort. We need access to both pieces of information. As regards the first part about the train coming on a given platform, announcements are made but they are made when the train is about to come on the platform. Things are very crowded at that time and some trains stop for a very short time. So, we need the information on those displays so that we can get to the platform in advance. 4. There should be a querying mechanism that will allow passengers to determine the current location of the train. You could have announcements but what do you do in trains that travel over night? You won't want to be disturbed with station location announcements in the middle of the night. Pranav To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Hello Sir, Thanks for the initiative. I have few suggestions to add. 1. 3% births in all classes in all trains should be reserved to physically challenged persons with 25% fair. 2. Disabled compartment should be a general compartment for physically challenged only. No birth should be reserved to physically challenged in the disabled compartment. 3. The railway department should issue a permanent identity card with a unique ID number basing on medical board certificate for off line and online reservation. With thanks and regards, Janardhana Naidu. - Original Message - From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the tracks from the platform. Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges of the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters, coach for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with high contrast color for low vision persons. Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the space between compartments. Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately. Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of arrival there etc. Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction and the name of the approaching station. Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear. On one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on the other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being allotted in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding whether a particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is exactly located, whether in the front or at back. This requires disabled passengers to run helter-skelter for locating it, defeating the very purpose of such a coach. Further, more often than not, it is occupied by able bodied unauthorized passengers and is not vestibuled rendering seeking any assistance by disabled passengers from RPF or ticket checking staff extremely difficult. Solution: Handicapped coach be clearly designated for travelers with disabilities and their escorts with general ordinary tickets and reservations in handicapped quota berths be given in the sleeper coach
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091 On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities
