Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged. one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead? and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions so that people need not blaim the organization itself. On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Welcome Sir! - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables, please check the correct formatting before taking printout of the circular. thanks, bhawani DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject
[AI] Two Interesting Audiobooks for us.
Hello, Today Librivox has uploaded Last Days of Pompeii by Edward G. Bulwer-Lytton, (482.4 mb). I read its abridged version at school. The book is about Nydia, a blind flower-girl who saves the life of her hero Glaucus and his fiancee Ione in the dist of volcanic eruption from Mount Vesuvius in 79n AD. It's free. The direct link is http://www.archive.org/download/last_days_of_pompeii_1006_librivox/last_days_of_pompeii_1006_librivox_64kb_mp3.zip Another book I suggest for you is The Hunchback of Notre Dame by Victor Hugo (629 mb). The principal character, Quasimodo, is deformed and severely crippled. Yet he towers above all other characters at the end of the story. It's free too like all Librivox books. The link for direct download is: http://www.archive.org/download/hunchback_notre_dame_mn_libriox/hunchback_notre_dame_mn_libriox_64kb_mp3.zip With Best regards, Amiyo Biswas. Cell: 91-9433464329 Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
Because credit card transactions and statements are sent through SMS only. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged. one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead? and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions so that people need not blaim the organization itself. On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Welcome Sir! - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables, please check the correct formatting before taking printout of the circular. thanks, bhawani DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication. Voice your thoughts in the
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
Mr. Verma, thanks for the clarification. On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Because credit card transactions and statements are sent through SMS only. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged. one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead? and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions so that people need not blaim the organization itself. On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Welcome Sir! - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables, please check the correct formatting before taking printout of the circular. thanks, bhawani DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this
[AI] jobs for pwd as customer care executive
Hello All Job applications are invited from ‘Sarthak educational Trust’ for persons with disability. The relevant details are as follows and please find our contact details at the bottom of this advertisement. Job Title – Customer Care Executive Number of posts - 10 Classification - Insurance Job Type - Full-time Location – NOIDA Requirements – Good communication skills in English/Hindi With minimum qualification of 12th Grade. Fresher are welcome. Expected Salary – 8K TO 10K per month Closing date of application – 7 JUNE 2010 Company and Contact Details Sarthak Trust with solution digitas offers exciting opportunities to learn contribute and build careers. As a leading name in the fast-paced insurance industry, we are constantly growing and are always in search of bright talent. The Company’s philosophy is strongly oriented to developing talent through larger and more enriching assignments. We recognize potential and consistent performance and our dynamic corporate culture can be summed in your future growth. Contact: Building no. 1 Sarthak Educational Trust mohammad Pur Behind bikhaji Cama Place New Delhi – 110066 Phone: 011-42004238 Mobile: +91-9868627244 Email: sarthak...@gmail.com Web: www.disabilitymanagementcell.com Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
Well, I believe you can always download your credit card statements from the website. Online checking is also possible. Only SMS required to be sent is in case of transaction involving more than Rs. 5000. So. what happens when A vi has the intimations and statements checked by any other means than voice enabled mobiles? And I am curious how many SMS it takes to send a monthly credit card statements? I believe it is not wise to do so. A soft copy coupled with online facility for statements is the norm. All said and done, I smell PNB'S arbitrariness in having the requirement of mobile phone with voice which would cost me between Rs. 15 and 20 Thousand. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Because credit card transactions and statements are sent through SMS only. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged. one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead? and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions so that people need not blaim the organization itself. On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Welcome Sir! - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables, please check the correct formatting before taking printout of the circular. thanks, bhawani DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and
[AI] AI Blog
Friends It has been a while since the blog to voice our concerns and thoughts about the new law being drafted has become functional. Every AI message contains its URL in signature line. However, I have not observed anyone but a couple of beings writing anything on it. I urge everyone who thinks she / he can contribute meaningfully to the suggestions for committee members, to actively participate and discuss issues there. Our moderator had already appealed to one and all. I don't know why we are so apathetic when it comes to systematically presenting our concerns. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
Each transaction is communicated through SMS immediately after transaction happens and no any ceiling or floor amount. Statement can be viewed in its website. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I believe you can always download your credit card statements from the website. Online checking is also possible. Only SMS required to be sent is in case of transaction involving more than Rs. 5000. So. what happens when A vi has the intimations and statements checked by any other means than voice enabled mobiles? And I am curious how many SMS it takes to send a monthly credit card statements? I believe it is not wise to do so. A soft copy coupled with online facility for statements is the norm. All said and done, I smell PNB'S arbitrariness in having the requirement of mobile phone with voice which would cost me between Rs. 15 and 20 Thousand. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Because credit card transactions and statements are sent through SMS only. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged. one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead? and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions so that people need not blaim the organization itself. On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Welcome Sir! - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables, please check the correct formatting before taking printout of the circular. thanks, bhawani DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
Re: [AI] Introduction from a new member!
this is very good that you have joined us. I welcome you. hope you will learn mahny things from here. next time please share what is the situation of VH people in America. - Original Message - From: Steven Max-Faults stevema...@yahoo.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:02 AM Subject: [AI] Introduction from a new member! Hello All, I just joined the list, and I thought I would write and introduce myself. My name is Steven. I’m a blind college student from New York. I am studying Psychology, but I also like history and literature. My hobbies are reading, listening to music, hanging out with friends, traveling and learning new things. I would like to make some new friends on here! My ancestors are Indian, and I’ve always wanted to visit the homeland. I would really like to come to India and volunteer in a school for the blind. Does anyone have any advice for me? I kind of saw myself going to Mumbai because it’s Mumbai, but I really don’t mind where I go. There are just so many schools all around India. Also, I don’t speak any Indian languages (only English and French). Do you think this would be a problem? Please help if you can. But also, I would just like to get to know everyone! Thanks, Steven Steven Max-Faults stevema...@yahoo.com +1 917 865 6953 (Mobile) Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
So, I can read my statement online. I wonder why PNB does not require that I have a functioning Personal computer with screen reader installed on it and with active internet connection! and also that I ensure nobody spies on me when I use such a gadget to read my statement! And, yes, even if I don't have a voice-enabled mobile and ask anyone to read out the messages, they cannot know anything but the amount of transaction and date thereof. It is not possible to forge card details from it. My friends, give up the habit of My country, write or wrong, and do not justify any arbitrary conditions merely because your own institution prescribes them, or they are high-sounding technological gadgets which we want to make compulsory. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Each transaction is communicated through SMS immediately after transaction happens and no any ceiling or floor amount. Statement can be viewed in its website. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I believe you can always download your credit card statements from the website. Online checking is also possible. Only SMS required to be sent is in case of transaction involving more than Rs. 5000. So. what happens when A vi has the intimations and statements checked by any other means than voice enabled mobiles? And I am curious how many SMS it takes to send a monthly credit card statements? I believe it is not wise to do so. A soft copy coupled with online facility for statements is the norm. All said and done, I smell PNB'S arbitrariness in having the requirement of mobile phone with voice which would cost me between Rs. 15 and 20 Thousand. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Because credit card transactions and statements are sent through SMS only. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged. one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead? and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions so that people need not blaim the organization itself. On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Welcome Sir! - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit
Re: [AI] Braille on computer.
Dear Kuldeep! I am aware of one software which converts your braille strokes in print. But, this is for Hindi, namely 'Braille Face'. For more about this software, you can contact Mr. Satvir Singh, who has designed this software and Mr. Keshav Kumar. I am providing the phone numbers of both these people. They are selling this software for around Rs.2000. Satvir Singh +919968292373 Keshav Kumar +919968295433 On 6/3/10, Kuldeep Kumar kumarkuldee...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear friends, Tell me about the software on whitch we write in braille on keyboard and it converts in ink on screne. Is this available at free of cost? Thanking you. --- On Wed, 2/6/10, accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in wrote: From: accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in Subject: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 50, Issue 13 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wednesday, 2 June, 2010, 7:00 PM Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to accessindia@accessindia.org.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in You can reach the person managing the list at accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Specific Command In Outlook Express (Ashwani Jassal) 2. Re: Credit card facility for visually challenged persons. (navneet) 3. Re: Introduction from a new member! (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan) 4. Re: Need real speak voice for nokia n73 (Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 23:30:47 +0530 From: Ashwani Jassal ashwanijas...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Specific Command In Outlook Express Message-ID: !!AAAYAG8HpdC74ChGuzYIOJk8/SnCgAAAEObXJ1khNI1Bgg+WEc/adasba...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Control U will serve the purpose. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dr. Yogesh Sharma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Specific Command In Outlook Express Hi friends, hope all are doing great. I am using Office XP and JAWS 10. Is there any specific command in Outlook Express which would take me directly to the next unread message in Outlook Express Message List? please suggest and oblige. Thanks in advance. With ice creamy regards, [Smile], Yours sincerely, Yogesh Sharma. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 23:42:37 +0530 From: navneet dubeynavne...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Credit card facility for visually challenged persons. Message-ID: 006101cb027f$32d3baf0$0201a...@indorec3d386da Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original hello sir please send me the both two circulars on e mail i d dubeynavne...@gmail.com navneet dubey - Original Message - From: dinesh gujar dkg@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:00 PM Subject: [AI] Credit card facility for visually challenged persons. Dear list Members, I am pleased to share with all of you that Punjab National Bank has issued Circular no.8 from its Credit Card Venture Division permitting the VIs for credit card facility. If any one of you needs the copy of the circular, please send me email. As regaards chequebook, I have chequebook and using the same for all the purposes I need for last 10 years. There is no risk if we keep our record under our own control. with best regards, DINESH GUJAR MANAGER PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK JAIPUR302015 9799496296 Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
[AI] request for teaching job
Hello accessindia I am a low vision person and I have knowledge of computer. I have also done advanced course of computer. Please tell me if any job of teaching is there or anyone knows any teaching job because I am interested in teaching computer. Thanks (preeti) Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] request for teaching job
Hi Preeti, I guess there is a vacancy at the Poona school for the Blind at kothrud. If u are ok i can cross check Pls reply Regards, Kiran On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:26 PM, preeti preetibah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello accessindia I am a low vision person and I have knowledge of computer. I have also done advanced course of computer. Please tell me if any job of teaching is there or anyone knows any teaching job because I am interested in teaching computer. Thanks (preeti) Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Kind Regards, Kiran S Deshpande. DISCLAIMER:- This e-mail message (including any attachment) is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. This message is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are those of the author only. Furthermore, this message (including any attachment) does not create any legally binding rights or obligations whatsoever, which may only be created by the exchange of hard copy documents signed by a duly authorized representative of the company If Official or other wise signed by the Author on Valid Documents. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Braille on computer.
rg.in accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in sutch kind of software free of software free of cost to blind persons who are poor and can not pay. My son is also blind and nobody co-operates him for his schooling. He studies in a sighted school. mobile--0091 9855596044Dear Sachin, I knew all about this software. But I want to provide any kind of sutch Subject: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 50, Issue 17 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 3 June, 2010, 9:26 AM Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to accessindia@accessindia.org.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in You can reach the person managing the list at accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Introduction from a new member! (dinesh shukla) 2. Re: PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS (Asudani, Rajesh) 3. Re: Braille on computer. (sachit sahrawat) 4. request for teaching job (preeti) 5. Re: request for teaching job (Kiran S Deshpande) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:52:11 -0700 From: dinesh shukla dineshshukla2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Introduction from a new member! Message-ID: 8e3d82b59159403ab2ea520826e5e...@dineshaf2b68c5 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8; reply-type=original this is very good that you have joined us. I welcome you. hope you will learn mahny things from here. next time please share what is the situation of VH people in America. - Original Message - From: Steven Max-Faults stevema...@yahoo.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:02 AM Subject: [AI] Introduction from a new member! Hello All, I just joined the list, and I thought I would write and introduce myself. My name is Steven. I?m a blind college student from New York. I am studying Psychology, but I also like history and literature. My hobbies are reading, listening to music, hanging out with friends, traveling and learning new things. I would like to make some new friends on here! My ancestors are Indian, and I?ve always wanted to visit the homeland. I would really like to come to India and volunteer in a school for the blind. Does anyone have any advice for me? I kind of saw myself going to Mumbai because it?s Mumbai, but I really don?t mind where I go. There are just so many schools all around India. Also, I don?t speak any Indian languages (only English and French). Do you think this would be a problem? Please help if you can. But also, I would just like to get to know everyone! Thanks, Steven Steven Max-Faults stevema...@yahoo.com +1 917 865 6953 (Mobile) Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:52:34 +0530 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Message-ID: 9b925a6d2aa0e443b071cfdabb3748e11fdd6f5...@rbiexch01.rbi1.rbi.org.in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So, I can read my statement online. I wonder why PNB does not require that I have a functioning Personal computer with screen reader installed on it and with active internet connection! and also that I ensure nobody spies on me when I use such a gadget to read my statement! And, yes, even if I don't have a voice-enabled mobile and ask anyone to read out the messages, they cannot know anything but the amount of transaction and date thereof. It is not possible to forge card details from it. My friends, give up the habit of My country, write or wrong, and do not justify any arbitrary conditions merely because your own institution prescribes them, or they are high-sounding technological gadgets which we want to make compulsory. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General
Re: [AI] he proved nothing is impossible
That would depend on the sport. Let me explain... Tennis is the easiet of games to observe for the blind since you will know the basic information -the score- from the chair umpire. If the ball goes out, the linesman yells it out for you... All that you need to ask is what kind of shots has been played -for instance, forehand crosscourt winner, drop shot, lob, drop volley etc... You can ask that from fellow journalists and from those sitting next to you. In fact, cricket is becoming so obviously visual -what with all the stump vision cameras and TV umpires- a commentator can talk virtually blind-fold!! If you have a good knowledge of the game it is possible to commentate live. Remember, you will not be the only guy sitting in the box... You will have a co-commentator who can compensate for things you can't describe. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:20 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] he proved nothing is impossible Dear Subramani Reporting for newspapers is another thing, and giving live commentary is altogether another! He may surely add Color by his acute auditory observations and mammoth knowledge, but he cannot render accurate and reliable live commentary of cricket. Many a times, achievements of VI are portrayed as if sight is a minor sense or entity which can be easily substituted by other senses. For example, drawings of VI are projected as real masterpieces, or their ability to recognize color by touching a thing is supposed to be an attribute commonly prevalent. I would like to hear his live commentary sometimes. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] he proved nothing is impossible Why not? I have reported on ATP tennis tournaments for newspapers? It's about observation and not about seeing. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashwani Jassal Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:10 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] he proved nothing is impossible Unbelievable -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:23 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] he proved nothing is impossible I don't agree. -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek aggarwal Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:59 AM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] he proved nothing is impossible folks, please read below an interesting article about a man who has done something incredible. as we say nothing is impossible, this man has proved it. have a look to his inspiring story, and try doing something incredible in the field that you are in. i'm highly inspired, hope you too will. --- Zimbabwe's blind cricket commentator Dean du Plessis bowls audiences for six Jan Raath in Harare Dean du Plessis It's a rare mix that makes a good cricket commentator: erudite descriptions of action, comprehensive knowledge of great players, faultless recall of statistics, and needle-sharp sense of timing and judgment. Zimbabwean-born Dean du Plessis, 32, has all these attributes and has been delivering commentaries on matches for nine years. But he has never seen a game in his life, because his green eyes are glass. He was born blind, with tumours on his retinas. That has been no obstacle to him sharing the commentary box in Tests, one-day and Twenty20 tournaments involving all the Test-playing nations in worldwide radio broadcasts. He has worked with the likes of Tony Cozier (who pronounced Dean's delivery very smooth), Geoffrey Boycott (the nastiest person I have ever met), Ravi Shastri and Australia's former spin bowler Bruce Yardley, who himself lost an eye. In 2004 the two became the first team to deliver a commentary with a single eye between them. Mr du Plessis's accentuated sense of hearing makes up for being sightless. Wired up to the stump microphones, he can tell who is bowling from the footfalls and grunts, a medium or fast delivery by the length of time between the bowler's foot coming down and the impact of the ball on the pitch. He picks up a yorker from the sound of the bat ramming down on the ball, can tell if a
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
i don't understand, it is okay to give credit card but not ATM? wiche is more risky? i suppose, more misuse is possible while paying the bills, in the stors and restorences then with ATM. one has to give your credit card to the staf for othentication, no such need with ATM!!. At 02:22 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote: there are 100s of rules and laws lying in india, either unused, misused or wrongly interpreted. even indian evidence act is quite old. better option is apply credit card facility if you want with PNB. you can quote the circular if they deny such facility. no one can defame the entire organisation, if one particular case is wrongly treated. thousands of rape committed daily, should we blame the entire male population of our country? numbers of false cases registered under IPC498A, should we blame the entire female society? - Original Message - From: Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Hi Mr. Kamal Varma, Other allegations made by some of our members on PNB are all truths. Hence we can't deny all of them and say that PNB is free from any irregularity. And it's quite natural to blame the entire organization when a particular employee denies someone their entitlements. And yes, we all appreciate PNB for taking a positive attitude towards issuance of credit cards to visually challenged persons. But more often than not, it's the implementation that has bogged us down rather than the rules on paper. And coming to the eligibility criteria, A Credit Card applicant who is visually impaired person must possess a voice enabled mobile phone for the purpose of communication of transaction happening on the credit card. Please clarify whether a voice enabled phone is a prerequisite for ccommunicating the transaction details, or is it a prerequisite for applying for a credit card. I didn't get the exact meaning. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables, please check the correct formatting before taking printout of the circular. thanks, bhawani DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or
[AI] Co-operation for litle blind children.
Dear friends, I have a litle blind son. His age is near about seven years. I had admited him in a blind school Patiyala. But there was not any kind of co-operation for him. Schools registered his name and did not allow him to sit in class for showing their helplesnes. Nowadays he stidies in a sighted school and verry good in his studies. I request you to close all these frod shops. Please help me regarding this mater. I am blind music lecturer working in Khalsa colege Patiyala. Mobile--0091 9855596044 --- On Thu, 3/6/10, accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in wrote: From: accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in Subject: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 50, Issue 18 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 3 June, 2010, 9:53 AM Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to accessindia@accessindia.org.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in You can reach the person managing the list at accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest... Today's Topics: 1. Braille on computer. (Kuldeep Kumar) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:23:11 +0530 (IST) From: Kuldeep Kumar kumarkuldee...@yahoo.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Braille on computer. Message-ID: 702226.30952...@web94915.mail.in2.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 rg.in accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in sutch kind of software free of software free of cost to blind persons who are poor and can not pay. My son is also blind and nobody co-operates him for his schooling. He studies in a sighted school. mobile--0091 9855596044Dear Sachin, I knew all about this software. But I want to provide any kind of sutch Subject: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 50, Issue 17 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 3 June, 2010, 9:26 AM Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to ??? accessindia@accessindia.org.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in You can reach the person managing the list at ??? accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest... Today's Topics: ???1. Re: Introduction from a new member! (dinesh shukla) ???2. Re: PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS (Asudani, Rajesh) ???3. Re: Braille on computer. (sachit sahrawat) ???4. request for teaching job (preeti) ???5. Re: request for teaching job (Kiran S Deshpande) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:52:11 -0700 From: dinesh shukla dineshshukla2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Introduction from a new member! Message-ID: 8e3d82b59159403ab2ea520826e5e...@dineshaf2b68c5 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8; ??? reply-type=original this is very good that you have joined us. I welcome you. hope you will learn mahny things from here. next time please share what is the situation of VH people in America. - Original Message - From: Steven Max-Faults stevema...@yahoo.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:02 AM Subject: [AI] Introduction from a new member! Hello All, I just joined the list, and I thought I would write and introduce myself. My name is Steven. I?m a blind college student from New York. I am studying Psychology, but I also like history and literature. My hobbies are reading, listening to music, hanging out with friends, traveling and learning new things. I would like to make some new friends on here! My ancestors are Indian, and I?ve always wanted to visit the homeland. I would really like to come to India and volunteer in a school for the blind. Does anyone have any advice for me? I kind of saw myself going to Mumbai because it?s Mumbai, but I really don?t mind where I go. There are just so many schools all around India. Also, I don?t speak any Indian languages (only English and French). Do you think this would be a problem? Please help if you can. But also, I would just like to get to know everyone!
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
So, what is the moral of the story? Which banks allowcredit cards and which banks ATM? I am really frustrated with banks. In fact, I am a bit nervous. They always barrage me with questions. With Best regards, Amiyo Biswas. Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS i don't understand, it is okay to give credit card but not ATM? wiche is more risky? i suppose, more misuse is possible while paying the bills, in the stors and restorences then with ATM. one has to give your credit card to the staf for othentication, no such need with ATM!!. At 02:22 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote: there are 100s of rules and laws lying in india, either unused, misused or wrongly interpreted. even indian evidence act is quite old. better option is apply credit card facility if you want with PNB. you can quote the circular if they deny such facility. no one can defame the entire organisation, if one particular case is wrongly treated. thousands of rape committed daily, should we blame the entire male population of our country? numbers of false cases registered under IPC498A, should we blame the entire female society? - Original Message - From: Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Hi Mr. Kamal Varma, Other allegations made by some of our members on PNB are all truths. Hence we can't deny all of them and say that PNB is free from any irregularity. And it's quite natural to blame the entire organization when a particular employee denies someone their entitlements. And yes, we all appreciate PNB for taking a positive attitude towards issuance of credit cards to visually challenged persons. But more often than not, it's the implementation that has bogged us down rather than the rules on paper. And coming to the eligibility criteria, A Credit Card applicant who is visually impaired person must possess a voice enabled mobile phone for the purpose of communication of transaction happening on the credit card. Please clarify whether a voice enabled phone is a prerequisite for ccommunicating the transaction details, or is it a prerequisite for applying for a credit card. I didn't get the exact meaning. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables, please check the correct formatting before taking printout of the circular. thanks, bhawani DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
Who denies ATM card to the blind? Do you know, ATM card can also be used in stores and restaurants? CVV No. of credit card is not required while paying the bills in stores and restaurants. - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS i don't understand, it is okay to give credit card but not ATM? wiche is more risky? i suppose, more misuse is possible while paying the bills, in the stors and restorences then with ATM. one has to give your credit card to the staf for othentication, no such need with ATM!!. At 02:22 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote: there are 100s of rules and laws lying in india, either unused, misused or wrongly interpreted. even indian evidence act is quite old. better option is apply credit card facility if you want with PNB. you can quote the circular if they deny such facility. no one can defame the entire organisation, if one particular case is wrongly treated. thousands of rape committed daily, should we blame the entire male population of our country? numbers of false cases registered under IPC498A, should we blame the entire female society? - Original Message - From: Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Hi Mr. Kamal Varma, Other allegations made by some of our members on PNB are all truths. Hence we can't deny all of them and say that PNB is free from any irregularity. And it's quite natural to blame the entire organization when a particular employee denies someone their entitlements. And yes, we all appreciate PNB for taking a positive attitude towards issuance of credit cards to visually challenged persons. But more often than not, it's the implementation that has bogged us down rather than the rules on paper. And coming to the eligibility criteria, A Credit Card applicant who is visually impaired person must possess a voice enabled mobile phone for the purpose of communication of transaction happening on the credit card. Please clarify whether a voice enabled phone is a prerequisite for ccommunicating the transaction details, or is it a prerequisite for applying for a credit card. I didn't get the exact meaning. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables, please check the correct formatting before taking printout of the circular. thanks, bhawani DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the intended recipient is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your system. Any opinion or views expressed in this mail may not necessarily reflect that of Punjab National Bank. The bank considers unencrypted email as an insecure mode of communication. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
Let the people file a litigation with the Ombudsman against PNB that how a blind can afford such expensive devices in a poor country like ours. But they still need credit cards. Let us see what the Ombudsman decides. Kamal Verma. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS So, I can read my statement online. I wonder why PNB does not require that I have a functioning Personal computer with screen reader installed on it and with active internet connection! and also that I ensure nobody spies on me when I use such a gadget to read my statement! And, yes, even if I don't have a voice-enabled mobile and ask anyone to read out the messages, they cannot know anything but the amount of transaction and date thereof. It is not possible to forge card details from it. My friends, give up the habit of My country, write or wrong, and do not justify any arbitrary conditions merely because your own institution prescribes them, or they are high-sounding technological gadgets which we want to make compulsory. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Each transaction is communicated through SMS immediately after transaction happens and no any ceiling or floor amount. Statement can be viewed in its website. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I believe you can always download your credit card statements from the website. Online checking is also possible. Only SMS required to be sent is in case of transaction involving more than Rs. 5000. So. what happens when A vi has the intimations and statements checked by any other means than voice enabled mobiles? And I am curious how many SMS it takes to send a monthly credit card statements? I believe it is not wise to do so. A soft copy coupled with online facility for statements is the norm. All said and done, I smell PNB'S arbitrariness in having the requirement of mobile phone with voice which would cost me between Rs. 15 and 20 Thousand. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Because credit card transactions and statements are sent through SMS only. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged. one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead? and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions so that people need not blaim the organization itself. On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Welcome Sir! - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
Dear Amiyo, People want facilities at their convinience and conditions. They cannot afford the technology, but they still need facilities. A blind is supposed to be a Mahatma in the society. But, now, a blind is greater than god. We have to fulfil their needs and conditions at any cost at their convenience only. This is the moral of this story. Regards. Kamal Verma. - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS So, what is the moral of the story? Which banks allowcredit cards and which banks ATM? I am really frustrated with banks. In fact, I am a bit nervous. They always barrage me with questions. With Best regards, Amiyo Biswas. Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS i don't understand, it is okay to give credit card but not ATM? wiche is more risky? i suppose, more misuse is possible while paying the bills, in the stors and restorences then with ATM. one has to give your credit card to the staf for othentication, no such need with ATM!!. At 02:22 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote: there are 100s of rules and laws lying in india, either unused, misused or wrongly interpreted. even indian evidence act is quite old. better option is apply credit card facility if you want with PNB. you can quote the circular if they deny such facility. no one can defame the entire organisation, if one particular case is wrongly treated. thousands of rape committed daily, should we blame the entire male population of our country? numbers of false cases registered under IPC498A, should we blame the entire female society? - Original Message - From: Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Hi Mr. Kamal Varma, Other allegations made by some of our members on PNB are all truths. Hence we can't deny all of them and say that PNB is free from any irregularity. And it's quite natural to blame the entire organization when a particular employee denies someone their entitlements. And yes, we all appreciate PNB for taking a positive attitude towards issuance of credit cards to visually challenged persons. But more often than not, it's the implementation that has bogged us down rather than the rules on paper. And coming to the eligibility criteria, A Credit Card applicant who is visually impaired person must possess a voice enabled mobile phone for the purpose of communication of transaction happening on the credit card. Please clarify whether a voice enabled phone is a prerequisite for ccommunicating the transaction details, or is it a prerequisite for applying for a credit card. I didn't get the exact meaning. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables, please check the correct formatting before taking printout of the circular. thanks, bhawani DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
You are making me laugh -at the misfortune of the blind. First of, PNB has given an order which is laudable for the intentions, but still we need to see how many branch managers understand its implications and come forward to provide it. After all, accepting credit crd applications is unr the discretion of the branch manager and at least a few of them are sure to make our lives difficult. I don't know why you are stuck with the idea that people are saying something against PNB. The issue actually is that the whole banking sector is awashed with ignorance and severe mental block against the blind. As mentioned, no one is pointing fingers at your bank. We may appreciate PNB for the credit card scheme, but that is not going to change the reality that there is widespread discrimination against the blind in banking sector. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:47 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Dear Amiyo, People want facilities at their convinience and conditions. They cannot afford the technology, but they still need facilities. A blind is supposed to be a Mahatma in the society. But, now, a blind is greater than god. We have to fulfil their needs and conditions at any cost at their convenience only. This is the moral of this story. Regards. Kamal Verma. - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS So, what is the moral of the story? Which banks allowcredit cards and which banks ATM? I am really frustrated with banks. In fact, I am a bit nervous. They always barrage me with questions. With Best regards, Amiyo Biswas. Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS i don't understand, it is okay to give credit card but not ATM? wiche is more risky? i suppose, more misuse is possible while paying the bills, in the stors and restorences then with ATM. one has to give your credit card to the staf for othentication, no such need with ATM!!. At 02:22 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote: there are 100s of rules and laws lying in india, either unused, misused or wrongly interpreted. even indian evidence act is quite old. better option is apply credit card facility if you want with PNB. you can quote the circular if they deny such facility. no one can defame the entire organisation, if one particular case is wrongly treated. thousands of rape committed daily, should we blame the entire male population of our country? numbers of false cases registered under IPC498A, should we blame the entire female society? - Original Message - From: Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Hi Mr. Kamal Varma, Other allegations made by some of our members on PNB are all truths. Hence we can't deny all of them and say that PNB is free from any irregularity. And it's quite natural to blame the entire organization when a particular employee denies someone their entitlements. And yes, we all appreciate PNB for taking a positive attitude towards issuance of credit cards to visually challenged persons. But more often than not, it's the implementation that has bogged us down rather than the rules on paper. And coming to the eligibility criteria, A Credit Card applicant who is visually impaired person must possess a voice enabled mobile phone for the purpose of communication of transaction happening on the credit card. Please clarify whether a voice enabled phone is a prerequisite for ccommunicating the transaction details, or is it a prerequisite for applying for a credit card. I didn't get the exact meaning. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349
Re: [AI] Introduction from a new member!
Hello Steven, Warm welcome to this wonderful list. I hope it will help you to know more about your homeland particularly the status and conditions of your blind peers in India. You may or may not be aware that India is known for its hospitality people everywhere in India particularly in rural parts try their best to make the stay of their guest most comfortable even they don’t go beyond their might. So you don't need to worry in planning to visit India. You will be welcomed every where as per your choice and convenience. For the time being let us know about your study and status of the blind people in U.S in detail such as how do you pursue your study being a blind? Which medium of assistive technology in general are used by the blind students in pursuance of their study. What about the behaviour and attitude of the fellow students and teachers towards blind student at college and university? If it is also a challenge for a visually challenged person in USA to get suitable employment? What is the condition of social inclusion of the blind people in U.S society? Have you any statistic data about the population of the visually challenged persons in USA. What are the key provisions of the government for the support of the blind people in their empowerment. I believe that many accessindian friends would also like to hear from you on all these points. With regards, Gautam Prakash Agarwal President, NFB, Karnataka -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Steven Max-Faults Sent: 02 June 2010 13:32 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Introduction from a new member! Hello All, I just joined the list, and I thought I would write and introduce myself. My name is Steven. I’m a blind college student from New York. I am studying Psychology, but I also like history and literature. My hobbies are reading, listening to music, hanging out with friends, traveling and learning new things. I would like to make some new friends on here! My ancestors are Indian, and I’ve always wanted to visit the homeland. I would really like to come to India and volunteer in a school for the blind. Does anyone have any advice for me? I kind of saw myself going to Mumbai because it’s Mumbai, but I really don’t mind where I go. There are just so many schools all around India. Also, I don’t speak any Indian languages (only English and French). Do you think this would be a problem? Please help if you can. But also, I would just like to get to know everyone! Thanks, Steven Steven Max-Faults stevema...@yahoo.com +1 917 865 6953 (Mobile) Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
no discrimination for debit card also. numbers of blind customers of PNB using its ATM card. - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS i don't understand, it is okay to give credit card but not ATM? wiche is more risky? i suppose, more misuse is possible while paying the bills, in the stors and restorences then with ATM. one has to give your credit card to the staf for othentication, no such need with ATM!!. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
no sir, you need not to be frustrated with banks. it is just because of awareness. if one can use so called media to register their objection, why it should not be used for awearness campaign? not only in banks, even blind studnets face difficulty to get admission in colleges, traveling, or other more services. in my opinion, first try to convince the officials of any department, where a blind person want to obtain services. if the officials shows law, then we have also number of laws. - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS So, what is the moral of the story? Which banks allowcredit cards and which banks ATM? I am really frustrated with banks. In fact, I am a bit nervous. They always barrage me with questions. With Best regards, Amiyo Biswas. Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS i don't understand, it is okay to give credit card but not ATM? wiche is more risky? i suppose, more misuse is possible while paying the bills, in the stors and restorences then with ATM. one has to give your credit card to the staf for othentication, no such need with ATM!!. At 02:22 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote: there are 100s of rules and laws lying in india, either unused, misused or wrongly interpreted. even indian evidence act is quite old. better option is apply credit card facility if you want with PNB. you can quote the circular if they deny such facility. no one can defame the entire organisation, if one particular case is wrongly treated. thousands of rape committed daily, should we blame the entire male population of our country? numbers of false cases registered under IPC498A, should we blame the entire female society? - Original Message - From: Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Hi Mr. Kamal Varma, Other allegations made by some of our members on PNB are all truths. Hence we can't deny all of them and say that PNB is free from any irregularity. And it's quite natural to blame the entire organization when a particular employee denies someone their entitlements. And yes, we all appreciate PNB for taking a positive attitude towards issuance of credit cards to visually challenged persons. But more often than not, it's the implementation that has bogged us down rather than the rules on paper. And coming to the eligibility criteria, A Credit Card applicant who is visually impaired person must possess a voice enabled mobile phone for the purpose of communication of transaction happening on the credit card. Please clarify whether a voice enabled phone is a prerequisite for ccommunicating the transaction details, or is it a prerequisite for applying for a credit card. I didn't get the exact meaning. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind to do so, instead, who is not a central banker!!! Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:26 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS How the people blame that PNB ignores the blind community. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:41 AM Subject: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS hello accessindia! i am pasting the circular for pnb credit card for blind customers, in the interest of all blind customers. hence, this circular contains tables, please check the correct formatting before taking printout of the circular. thanks, bhawani DISCLAIMER: The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
also would like to add one thing that a complainent is having laptop costing around Rs.35000/- and a screen reading software installed in it, costing around Rs.2/- a broad band connection, paying the bill amounting to Rs.300/- per month. and a wireless lan modem costing around Rs.2000/- total cost around Rs.58000/- a complainent may deduct the cost of screen reader if he is using crack. thanks. - Original Message - From: Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Let the people file a litigation with the Ombudsman against PNB that how a blind can afford such expensive devices in a poor country like ours. But they still need credit cards. Let us see what the Ombudsman decides. Kamal Verma. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS So, I can read my statement online. I wonder why PNB does not require that I have a functioning Personal computer with screen reader installed on it and with active internet connection! and also that I ensure nobody spies on me when I use such a gadget to read my statement! And, yes, even if I don't have a voice-enabled mobile and ask anyone to read out the messages, they cannot know anything but the amount of transaction and date thereof. It is not possible to forge card details from it. My friends, give up the habit of My country, write or wrong, and do not justify any arbitrary conditions merely because your own institution prescribes them, or they are high-sounding technological gadgets which we want to make compulsory. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Each transaction is communicated through SMS immediately after transaction happens and no any ceiling or floor amount. Statement can be viewed in its website. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I believe you can always download your credit card statements from the website. Online checking is also possible. Only SMS required to be sent is in case of transaction involving more than Rs. 5000. So. what happens when A vi has the intimations and statements checked by any other means than voice enabled mobiles? And I am curious how many SMS it takes to send a monthly credit card statements? I believe it is not wise to do so. A soft copy coupled with online facility for statements is the norm. All said and done, I smell PNB'S arbitrariness in having the requirement of mobile phone with voice which would cost me between Rs. 15 and 20 Thousand. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Because credit card transactions and statements are sent through SMS only. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged. one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead? and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions so that people need not blaim the organization itself. On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Welcome Sir! - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I will apply for credit card with PNB!! (Smile) No, will make another earning blind
[AI] Moderator: Re: PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
Hello all This thread is now simply dragging without serving any purpose. This thread is now closed. Harish Kotian Moderator. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS also would like to add one thing that a complainent is having laptop costing around Rs.35000/- and a screen reading software installed in it, costing around Rs.2/- a broad band connection, paying the bill amounting to Rs.300/- per month. and a wireless lan modem costing around Rs.2000/- total cost around Rs.58000/- a complainent may deduct the cost of screen reader if he is using crack. thanks. - Original Message - From: Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Let the people file a litigation with the Ombudsman against PNB that how a blind can afford such expensive devices in a poor country like ours. But they still need credit cards. Let us see what the Ombudsman decides. Kamal Verma. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS So, I can read my statement online. I wonder why PNB does not require that I have a functioning Personal computer with screen reader installed on it and with active internet connection! and also that I ensure nobody spies on me when I use such a gadget to read my statement! And, yes, even if I don't have a voice-enabled mobile and ask anyone to read out the messages, they cannot know anything but the amount of transaction and date thereof. It is not possible to forge card details from it. My friends, give up the habit of My country, write or wrong, and do not justify any arbitrary conditions merely because your own institution prescribes them, or they are high-sounding technological gadgets which we want to make compulsory. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Each transaction is communicated through SMS immediately after transaction happens and no any ceiling or floor amount. Statement can be viewed in its website. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I believe you can always download your credit card statements from the website. Online checking is also possible. Only SMS required to be sent is in case of transaction involving more than Rs. 5000. So. what happens when A vi has the intimations and statements checked by any other means than voice enabled mobiles? And I am curious how many SMS it takes to send a monthly credit card statements? I believe it is not wise to do so. A soft copy coupled with online facility for statements is the norm. All said and done, I smell PNB'S arbitrariness in having the requirement of mobile phone with voice which would cost me between Rs. 15 and 20 Thousand. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Because credit card transactions and statements are sent through SMS only. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged. one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a voice enabled phone? would a screenreader enabled laptop or a netbook do instead? and hopefully, the PNB follows this initiative with meaningful actions so that people need not blaim the organization itself. On 6/3/10, Kamal Verma
[AI] material needed for office 2007
Dear friends, I have had the opportunity to write to the list after a very long time I hope all of you find yourselves in good health and spirits. I have recently started using office 2007 with jaws 11 and find that I have much to learn. Would require help from you for sources and documents on material for office 2007 to work with jaws 11. So kindly do the needful. Another strange thing I have noticed with office 2007 is that the spel check seem to be wrongly representing words. I.E the word is is not recognized by the dictionary even other correct words which was not an error with office 11 is now an error. Not sure what is the problem. Should I make some changes in the language settings? Please suggest. Awaiting your response on the same. Regards, Fayaz Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Introduction
Hello access Indians, I am glad to introduce me to you all. I am Giriprasad from Andhra Pradesh Nellore. I am working as a teacher. I joined this group a month ago. Since I don’t have personal net connection I couldn’t post any mail. Now I have BSNL broadband connection. I learnt about this group from one of my friends and was waiting to join the amazing group full of sharing ideas knowledge and experience -- WITH REGARDS GIRIPRASAD MOBILE 92471 / 9441133367 SKYPE giriprasad.maddina Our greatest glory consists not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] supreme court opens up medical studies for v i friends
SUPREME COURT OF INDIA OPENS DOORS FOR MEDICAL STUDENT WITH VISUAL IMPAIRMENT A recent judgment of the Supreme Court of India appears to have opened new opportunities for the visually impaired. A young student, Nitin Mantri, had dreamt of becoming a Doctor from his early years: not an uncommon dream among the youngsters. What made the dream of Nitin so special was the fact that he was visually impaired. Due to his visual impairment, there were strong chances of his denied admission to a Medical College. The inspiring stories of blind and low vision doctors are not absent from our memory. One immediately recalls the name of Late Salma Maqbool of Pakistan, who not only was a successful practicing doctor, but was an important leader in the blindness field. Despite knowing that the road may be difficult for him, Nitin persisted with his dream and tried to seek admission in a medical college. He scored much higher percentage of marks than the cut off percentage, yet he was denied admission. He was admitted only after the High Court of Madhya Pradesh intervened. Social, administrative, and political prejudices cannot be easily set aside. His institution as well as the Government of his State appealed in the Supreme Court of India. After 9 months of toil, Nitin obtained the judgment in his favour: There are no rules to bar a visually impaired student from studying medicine, the Supreme Court ruled. The ruling is important not just for Nitin Mantrie but for the entire visual impairment sector. Its significance rests in two respects. Firstly, it has opened new avenues of study and employment for the visually impaired. The Supreme Court of India judgment can be cited as an example by individuals and blindness organizations in other countries to obtain similar facilities in their respective countries. The UNCRPD already advocates the principle of Reasonable Accommodation. This principle can help us in opening up new opportunities in the areas of education and employment. Secondly, the case in reference brings an important message to all of us. That is that given the will and determination, the most difficult doors can also open. So finally it is clear: the cure to our problems lies only with us. taken from asian blind union june edition cheers raghu Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] swami vivekanand books
hi list, does any one having books of swami vivekanand in mp3 format? i will be very thankful if you send me the books. thanks in anticipation with regards. -- Dr. Labhendra Mhatre. Physiotherapist Paraplegic Foundation, Mumbai +91 9819918844 Email: dr.labhen...@gmail.com Skype Id: labhendra.physio Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] need gps navagator software for N82
hi list, as subject line suggest, i need gps navagator software for my NoKIA N82. i can't use way finder because i am vodaphone custmer. please, suggest me the proper gps navagator. awaiting for your early reply. regards. -- Dr. Labhendra Mhatre. Physiotherapist Paraplegic Foundation, Mumbai +91 9819918844 Email: dr.labhen...@gmail.com Skype Id: labhendra.physio Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] AI Blog
Hello All I do commend Rajesh Asudani for actively participating in the blog. I do share Rajesh's anguish that presently there is lack of wide participation in it. Owing to the importance and the long term impact of the Act we have put together this dedicated blog. If there is any difficulty in using it, do let me know. We'll look into it. However, I don't think it is technical issue which is the cause of this cold response. I can just infer it is sheer complacency. Friends, we are all aware of the gaps in the old law and how the deficiencies in it has effected us badly. Now that when we have the power and means to shape the new law then why this laid back attitude? It does not require expertise in law to put your thoughts. Do frame your opinion in simple and easy to understand language and justify your stand. We are close to 1400 strong and only a handful participating in it. This is not acceptable. We have leaders of all interest groups also amongst us. It calls for greater participation from all. I think it is necessary for all organizations of the disabled to carry discourse on this extensively within their own fold and voice with strength and conviction. Let AccessIndia not turn out to be just a talking shop. Let us use our collective wisdom wisely and derive tangible results from it. Harish Kotian Email: har...@accessindia.org.in - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] AI Blog Friends It has been a while since the blog to voice our concerns and thoughts about the new law being drafted has become functional. Every AI message contains its URL in signature line. However, I have not observed anyone but a couple of beings writing anything on it. I urge everyone who thinks she / he can contribute meaningfully to the suggestions for committee members, to actively participate and discuss issues there. Our moderator had already appealed to one and all. I don't know why we are so apathetic when it comes to systematically presenting our concerns. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] regarding hindi ocr
Dear list members, hope all will healthy,Is any friend know about hindi ocr, which can read hindi book, or any hindi book reading device, or any progress regarding this technology. thanks and regards- Dr. A.K. Verma mob- 09837269234 Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] regarding hindi ocr
Hi, Hindi OCR and device is very much in the offing, should be able to provide in a couple of weeks. An Indian accented English and Hindi OCR with TTS both in a desktop Version and a Device version shall be made available. Finalization of Hindi is currently underway and shall be released after Tests with some AI members. Thanks and Regards Kiran ]Follow on FacebookRajan Deshpande or on twitter id is same. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Anuj Verma ak.divyadris...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Dear list members, hope all will healthy,Is any friend know about hindi ocr, which can read hindi book, or any hindi book reading device, or any progress regarding this technology. thanks and regards- Dr. A.K. Verma mob- 09837269234 Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Kind Regards, Kiran S Deshpande. DISCLAIMER:- This e-mail message (including any attachment) is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. This message is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are those of the author only. Furthermore, this message (including any attachment) does not create any legally binding rights or obligations whatsoever, which may only be created by the exchange of hard copy documents signed by a duly authorized representative of the company If Official or other wise signed by the Author on Valid Documents. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] need help
hiii friends please give me handi black list soft vare or black list soft vare and any other soft vare of this type for n72 its a urgent quic reply must . Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] swami vivekanand books
Check with Sri. Ramakrishna Math http://www.rkmath.org On 6/3/10, labhendra mhatre dr.labhen...@gmail.com wrote: hi list, does any one having books of swami vivekanand in mp3 format? i will be very thankful if you send me the books. thanks in anticipation with regards. -- Dr. Labhendra Mhatre. Physiotherapist Paraplegic Foundation, Mumbai +91 9819918844 Email: dr.labhen...@gmail.com Skype Id: labhendra.physio Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Sent from my mobile device Best regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula Mobile: +91 990 081 0881 Website: http://www.srinivasu.org Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/sriniworld/ Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] need gps navagator software for N82
You can't use way finder access anyway since it's a complete trash for Indian users beginning this April. So your best bet is loadstone. http://www.loadstone-gps.com Best, Vetri. On 03/06/2010, labhendra mhatre dr.labhen...@gmail.com wrote: hi list, as subject line suggest, i need gps navagator software for my NoKIA N82. i can't use way finder because i am vodaphone custmer. please, suggest me the proper gps navagator. awaiting for your early reply. regards. -- Dr. Labhendra Mhatre. Physiotherapist Paraplegic Foundation, Mumbai +91 9819918844 Email: dr.labhen...@gmail.com Skype Id: labhendra.physio Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] N 82 and Nokia maps
If you are asking about Nokia ovi maps, then I am afraid that they will not. They are ment for latest phones like the N86, N96, N97 general/mini etc. Vetri. On 02/06/2010, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote: dear friends, could anyone tell me if Nokia maps work with talks on N 82? Thanks. -- Ketan Kothari Phone: [r] 24223281, Cell: 9987550614 MSN ID: muktake...@hotmail.com Skype ID: Ketan Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Need For Braille Face software free of cost.
Dear friends, az I have earlier requested can anyone send me the software like braille face free of cost? So that I may help the poor blind persons. Thanking you.Dr. Kuldeep Kumar Mobile--0091 9855596044 Skype id; kumarkuldeep...@skype.com--- On Thu, 3/6/10, accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in wrote: From: accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in Subject: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 50, Issue 24 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, 3 June, 2010, 4:12 PM Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to accessindia@accessindia.org.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in You can reach the person managing the list at accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest... Today's Topics: 1. Moderator: Re: PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS (harish) 2. material needed for office 2007 (Fayaz Pasha) 3. Introduction (giri prasad) 4. supreme court opens up medical studies for v i friends (raghuraman) 5. swami vivekanand books (labhendra mhatre) 6. need gps navagator software for N82 (labhendra mhatre) 7. Re: AI Blog (harish) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:00:23 +0530 From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Moderator: Re: PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Message-ID: ac3b89c2363a4877b20b800c4edc0...@kotian Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Hello all This thread is now simply dragging without serving any purpose. This thread is now closed. Harish Kotian Moderator. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS also would like to add one thing that a complainent is having laptop costing around Rs.35000/- and a screen reading software installed in it, costing around Rs.2/- a broad band connection, paying the bill amounting to Rs.300/- per month. and a wireless lan modem costing around Rs.2000/- total cost around Rs.58000/- a complainent may deduct the cost of screen reader if he is using crack. thanks. - Original Message - From: Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Let the people file a litigation with the Ombudsman against PNB that how a blind can afford such expensive devices in a poor country like ours. But they still need credit cards. Let us see what the Ombudsman decides. Kamal Verma. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS So, I can read my statement online. I wonder why PNB does not require that I have a functioning Personal computer with screen reader installed on it and with active internet connection! and also that I ensure nobody spies on me when I use such a gadget to read my statement! And, yes, even if I don't have a voice-enabled mobile and ask anyone to read out the messages, they cannot know anything but the amount of transaction and date thereof. It is not possible to forge card details from it. My friends, give up the habit of My country, write or wrong, and do not justify any arbitrary conditions merely because your own institution prescribes them, or they are high-sounding technological gadgets which we want to make compulsory. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Each transaction is communicated through SMS immediately after transaction happens and no any ceiling or floor amount. Statement can be viewed in its website.
Re: [AI] Introduction
Hi GiriPrasad, Welcome to the group! Like you, I just joined earlier this week. I’m a blind college student from New York, but I’m interested in coming to India as a volunteer in a school for the blind. Please feel free to email me off list if you would like to get to know each other. What kind of teacher are you? Best, Steven --- On Thu, 6/3/10, giri prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com wrote: From: giri prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com Subject: [AI] Introduction To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 10:36 AM Hello access Indians, I am glad to introduce me to you all. I am Giriprasad from Andhra Pradesh Nellore. I am working as a teacher. I joined this group a month ago. Since I don’t have personal net connection I couldn’t post any mail. Now I have BSNL broadband connection. I learnt about this group from one of my friends and was waiting to join the amazing group full of sharing ideas knowledge and experience -- WITH REGARDS GIRIPRASAD MOBILE 92471 / 9441133367 SKYPE giriprasad.maddina Our greatest glory consists not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Retina India (Bangalore chapter) cordially invites you for its monthly support group meeting on June 04, 2010
Dear friends, volunteers and supporters of Retina India, We take pleasure in announcing that we will be hving our monthly meeting on Saturday, June 04, 2010 in which we will be discussing on “Disability and maintaining relationships”. As we network with more people and make friends with those from outside our geographical and cultural milieu, we need to learn how to maintain friendships and how to distinguish professional relationships from personal ones. Whatever may be the nature of relationships, it is important for us not to burn our bridges and understand what it tkes to maintain relationships. Dr. Ali Khwaja who runs the leading counseling agencies in Bangalore Banjara Academy will be addressing the meeting, specifically on how disability affects the way we relate with others and if things like lack of eye contact affects our interaction with others. We welcome everyone without restriction. Also, please take this opportunity to be a part of Retina India and help us with our activities. Details of the meeting are below: Date: Saturday June 5 Venue: Vishranti Nilaya (pl append the address and route) Time: 2.30 pm to 3.30 pm RSVP: Anandhi Viswanathan (Coordinator) 9886910508 Aditi Rai (Coordintor) 9986206136 David (Principal Advisor), 9845569496 Akhilesh (core group member) 9620133716 -- When I Am Here, Then Why Do You Fear Thanks and regards Akhilesh Malani Transition processing officer. Mphasis Kshema Dhama, no.1-Globle Village, Mysore road, Bangalore-560059 Bangalore's mob no- +919620133716, +919342232100 Chennai's Mob no: +919840226825 Skype id: akhi_25thcentury E-mail id: malani.akhil...@gmail.com Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] N 82 and Nokia maps
Are there any other maps other than OVI maps? - Original Message - From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan vadhimoo...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N 82 and Nokia maps If you are asking about Nokia ovi maps, then I am afraid that they will not. They are ment for latest phones like the N86, N96, N97 general/mini etc. Vetri. On 02/06/2010, Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com wrote: dear friends, could anyone tell me if Nokia maps work with talks on N 82? Thanks. -- Ketan Kothari Phone: [r] 24223281, Cell: 9987550614 MSN ID: muktake...@hotmail.com Skype ID: Ketan Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Fw: [SayEverything] Products for the Blind are too Expensive
- Original Message - From: Trepan Singh To: sayeveryth...@yahoogroups.co.in ; blindc...@yahoogroups.co.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:19 AM Subject: [SayEverything] Products for the Blind are too Expensive Products for the Blind are too Expensive Most of us who are blind want to live our own lives. Part of that process is to manage our own homes, take care of ourselves, and do all that is necessary to be as independent as the sighted. The problem that we face is twofold. First of all, many of us who want to be independent have difficulty finding jobs because of our blindness, meaning that we have to remain on a fixed income. As a result of this fixed income, many of us can't afford to be as independent as we'd like to be, because it costs a lot of money to adapt our lives. If you compare products that sighted people use with those adapted for a blind person, you will find that, in almost every case, the blind person's item costs a lot more than a comparable item for the sighted. You might say, Well, you have to think of the adaptations. I look at this issue in terms of what goes into a product. Take your average calculator, as an example. I'm sure that a lot goes into a calculator that does scientific notation, square roots, exponents, etc., yet a sighted person is able to buy such a calculator for $5. A talking calculator with fewer features than the one I just described would cost a blind person $15. Let's put this into perspective. If you replace software that generates scientific notation and square roots with software that talks, are you increasing the total value of the calculator by ten dollars? It would seem to me that the original software that does all those calculations would cost more than the software which makes a calculator talk. Yet the blind have to spend more money on a calculator which does less than what a sighted person spends on a calculator that does more. Then we have the Braille watch. When you make a Braille watch, all you are really doing is taking the cover off of a regular watch, putting dots on the dial, inserting a pointer, and replacing the cover with one that has a hinge so we can open the watch. I can understand why a Braille watch would cost more than a regular one, but four times more? Let's talk about the talking measuring tape. After all, in order for a blind person to be independent, he may want to measure things in his apartment like everyone else. A sighted person can go to a local discount store and buy a measuring tape for two dollars. Well, I bought a talking measuring tape because I felt it was necessary. It is slightly larger, and looks like a transistor radio. It talks, and converts from the American system to the Metric system. I spent a total of $84 for this device. Now, let's prove the point further by comparing the talking measuring tape to a sighted person's calculator. Do you mean to tell me that the software which makes a measuring tape talk is more complex than the software which makes a sighted person's calculator do scientific notation and square roots? I sincerely doubt it. Allow me to give a more ridiculous example. The average old fashioned Braille machine has no software in it. It's a mechanical device with gears inside, similar to those of a regular typewriter. I am assuming that an old fashioned manual typewriter has more complex machinery than the average Braille machine, for obvious reasons. If manual typewriters were still on the market, how much do you think they would cost? I guess they would be no more than $100. Yet, this relatively simple Braille machine is currently valued at over seven hundred dollars. How did someone reach the conclusion that a brailler needs to be valued this high? What exactly is in that brailler to justify its cost, especially when you compare it to comparable items for the sighted with more features? Last, but certainly not least, allow me to be even more ridiculous when I talk about computer software. There is a product on the market called Dragon Naturally Speaking, which types what you say into a microphone. Dragon Naturally Speaking is common. It is advertised all the time, and it is used by anyone. Jaws, which is a speech software that allows a blind person to hear what's on the computer screen, is similar to Dragon Naturally Speaking, if you think about it. One program sees what is written, while the other program hears what's being said. I am taking an educated guess that you can buy Dragon for under a hundred dollars, but yet a blind person has to spend eleven hundred dollars to adapt his computer with Jaws. I don't think that Jaws is eleven times more complicated than Dragon, do you? The problem here is supply and demand, and as a former student of economics, I fully understand the concept. However, if a company that sells adaptive products for the blind really thinks about its target market, it needs to
[AI] problem in outlook express
friends i have a problem in outlook express i have only around 100 or even less mails in inbox it often asks outlook express want to compact and do you want to do if i give ok it immediately erases all my mails and because of this i had already lost many important mails so please tell what to be done to avoid this problem and tell me step by step thanks in advance cheers raghu Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Moderator: Re: PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
thanks sir, - Original Message - From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:00 PM Subject: [AI] Moderator: Re: PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Hello all This thread is now simply dragging without serving any purpose. This thread is now closed. Harish Kotian Moderator. - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS also would like to add one thing that a complainent is having laptop costing around Rs.35000/- and a screen reading software installed in it, costing around Rs.2/- a broad band connection, paying the bill amounting to Rs.300/- per month. and a wireless lan modem costing around Rs.2000/- total cost around Rs.58000/- a complainent may deduct the cost of screen reader if he is using crack. thanks. - Original Message - From: Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Let the people file a litigation with the Ombudsman against PNB that how a blind can afford such expensive devices in a poor country like ours. But they still need credit cards. Let us see what the Ombudsman decides. Kamal Verma. - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS So, I can read my statement online. I wonder why PNB does not require that I have a functioning Personal computer with screen reader installed on it and with active internet connection! and also that I ensure nobody spies on me when I use such a gadget to read my statement! And, yes, even if I don't have a voice-enabled mobile and ask anyone to read out the messages, they cannot know anything but the amount of transaction and date thereof. It is not possible to forge card details from it. My friends, give up the habit of My country, write or wrong, and do not justify any arbitrary conditions merely because your own institution prescribes them, or they are high-sounding technological gadgets which we want to make compulsory. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Each transaction is communicated through SMS immediately after transaction happens and no any ceiling or floor amount. Statement can be viewed in its website. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Well, I believe you can always download your credit card statements from the website. Online checking is also possible. Only SMS required to be sent is in case of transaction involving more than Rs. 5000. So. what happens when A vi has the intimations and statements checked by any other means than voice enabled mobiles? And I am curious how many SMS it takes to send a monthly credit card statements? I believe it is not wise to do so. A soft copy coupled with online facility for statements is the norm. All said and done, I smell PNB'S arbitrariness in having the requirement of mobile phone with voice which would cost me between Rs. 15 and 20 Thousand. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:20 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Because credit card transactions and statements are sent through SMS only. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS good to see PNB doing something positive for the visually challenged. one clarification though, why is PNB insisting on a
Re: [AI] supreme court opens up medical studies for v i friends
good achievement, we must salute a petitioner's struggle. - Original Message - From: raghuraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:46 PM Subject: [AI] supreme court opens up medical studies for v i friends SUPREME COURT OF INDIA OPENS DOORS FOR MEDICAL STUDENT WITH VISUAL IMPAIRMENT A recent judgment of the Supreme Court of India appears to have opened new opportunities for the visually impaired. A young student, Nitin Mantri, had dreamt of becoming a Doctor from his early years: not an uncommon dream among the youngsters. What made the dream of Nitin so special was the fact that he was visually impaired. Due to his visual impairment, there were strong chances of his denied admission to a Medical College. The inspiring stories of blind and low vision doctors are not absent from our memory. One immediately recalls the name of Late Salma Maqbool of Pakistan, who not only was a successful practicing doctor, but was an important leader in the blindness field. Despite knowing that the road may be difficult for him, Nitin persisted with his dream and tried to seek admission in a medical college. He scored much higher percentage of marks than the cut off percentage, yet he was denied admission. He was admitted only after the High Court of Madhya Pradesh intervened. Social, administrative, and political prejudices cannot be easily set aside. His institution as well as the Government of his State appealed in the Supreme Court of India. After 9 months of toil, Nitin obtained the judgment in his favour: There are no rules to bar a visually impaired student from studying medicine, the Supreme Court ruled. The ruling is important not just for Nitin Mantrie but for the entire visual impairment sector. Its significance rests in two respects. Firstly, it has opened new avenues of study and employment for the visually impaired. The Supreme Court of India judgment can be cited as an example by individuals and blindness organizations in other countries to obtain similar facilities in their respective countries. The UNCRPD already advocates the principle of Reasonable Accommodation. This principle can help us in opening up new opportunities in the areas of education and employment. Secondly, the case in reference brings an important message to all of us. That is that given the will and determination, the most difficult doors can also open. So finally it is clear: the cure to our problems lies only with us. taken from asian blind union june edition cheers raghu Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] HINDI POETRY
hello accessindia! those who are interested on hindi poetry, hindi literature. can visit the following link: http://www.kaavyaalaya.org thanks, bhawani Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] problem in outlook express
go to toolsoptionsmaintenance tab, clear all the check boxes. hope this will help. - Original Message - From: raghuraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: [AI] problem in outlook express friends i have a problem in outlook express i have only around 100 or even less mails in inbox it often asks outlook express want to compact and do you want to do if i give ok it immediately erases all my mails and because of this i had already lost many important mails so please tell what to be done to avoid this problem and tell me step by step thanks in advance cheers raghu Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] problem in outlook express
Hello, I save many messages in different folders inside outlook express. Compacting does not delete these messages. You may arrange your messages in that way. Best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com To: raghuraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [AI] problem in outlook express go to toolsoptionsmaintenance tab, clear all the check boxes. hope this will help. - Original Message - From: raghuraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: [AI] problem in outlook express friends i have a problem in outlook express i have only around 100 or even less mails in inbox it often asks outlook express want to compact and do you want to do if i give ok it immediately erases all my mails and because of this i had already lost many important mails so please tell what to be done to avoid this problem and tell me step by step thanks in advance cheers raghu Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Fw: [SayEverything] Products for the Blind are too Expensive
Hi friend, u r saying right i m agree with u. With regards gaurav. On 6/3/10, m.chandrashekar chandru...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Trepan Singh To: sayeveryth...@yahoogroups.co.in ; blindc...@yahoogroups.co.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:19 AM Subject: [SayEverything] Products for the Blind are too Expensive Products for the Blind are too Expensive Most of us who are blind want to live our own lives. Part of that process is to manage our own homes, take care of ourselves, and do all that is necessary to be as independent as the sighted. The problem that we face is twofold. First of all, many of us who want to be independent have difficulty finding jobs because of our blindness, meaning that we have to remain on a fixed income. As a result of this fixed income, many of us can't afford to be as independent as we'd like to be, because it costs a lot of money to adapt our lives. If you compare products that sighted people use with those adapted for a blind person, you will find that, in almost every case, the blind person's item costs a lot more than a comparable item for the sighted. You might say, Well, you have to think of the adaptations. I look at this issue in terms of what goes into a product. Take your average calculator, as an example. I'm sure that a lot goes into a calculator that does scientific notation, square roots, exponents, etc., yet a sighted person is able to buy such a calculator for $5. A talking calculator with fewer features than the one I just described would cost a blind person $15. Let's put this into perspective. If you replace software that generates scientific notation and square roots with software that talks, are you increasing the total value of the calculator by ten dollars? It would seem to me that the original software that does all those calculations would cost more than the software which makes a calculator talk. Yet the blind have to spend more money on a calculator which does less than what a sighted person spends on a calculator that does more. Then we have the Braille watch. When you make a Braille watch, all you are really doing is taking the cover off of a regular watch, putting dots on the dial, inserting a pointer, and replacing the cover with one that has a hinge so we can open the watch. I can understand why a Braille watch would cost more than a regular one, but four times more? Let's talk about the talking measuring tape. After all, in order for a blind person to be independent, he may want to measure things in his apartment like everyone else. A sighted person can go to a local discount store and buy a measuring tape for two dollars. Well, I bought a talking measuring tape because I felt it was necessary. It is slightly larger, and looks like a transistor radio. It talks, and converts from the American system to the Metric system. I spent a total of $84 for this device. Now, let's prove the point further by comparing the talking measuring tape to a sighted person's calculator. Do you mean to tell me that the software which makes a measuring tape talk is more complex than the software which makes a sighted person's calculator do scientific notation and square roots? I sincerely doubt it. Allow me to give a more ridiculous example. The average old fashioned Braille machine has no software in it. It's a mechanical device with gears inside, similar to those of a regular typewriter. I am assuming that an old fashioned manual typewriter has more complex machinery than the average Braille machine, for obvious reasons. If manual typewriters were still on the market, how much do you think they would cost? I guess they would be no more than $100. Yet, this relatively simple Braille machine is currently valued at over seven hundred dollars. How did someone reach the conclusion that a brailler needs to be valued this high? What exactly is in that brailler to justify its cost, especially when you compare it to comparable items for the sighted with more features? Last, but certainly not least, allow me to be even more ridiculous when I talk about computer software. There is a product on the market called Dragon Naturally Speaking, which types what you say into a microphone. Dragon Naturally Speaking is common. It is advertised all the time, and it is used by anyone. Jaws, which is a speech software that allows a blind person to hear what's on the computer screen, is similar to Dragon Naturally Speaking, if you think about it. One program sees what is written, while the other program hears what's being said. I am taking an educated guess that you can buy Dragon for under a hundred dollars, but yet a blind person has to spend eleven hundred dollars to adapt his computer with Jaws. I don't think that Jaws is eleven times more complicated than Dragon, do you? The problem here is supply and
Re: [AI] problem in outlook express
Dear Raghu! There is one remedy for this problem I am using this technique ever since I have started using outlook express. When you think that a mail is important and it is worth saving, go to file menu, select save as, and give it any path to your hard drive in any folder. You can choose a different name for the mail and this mail will be saved in 'eml' format. So many people will be using this and according to me, this is the best way to preserve your messages. I accept hthat it will take some time, but later on, you will find it more safer . On 6/4/10, raghuraman thinkdontbl...@gmail.com wrote: friends i have a problem in outlook express i have only around 100 or even less mails in inbox it often asks outlook express want to compact and do you want to do if i give ok it immediately erases all my mails and because of this i had already lost many important mails so please tell what to be done to avoid this problem and tell me step by step thanks in advance cheers raghu Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- WITH BEST REGARDS SACHIT KUMAR SAHRAWAT E-MAIL : sirsac...@gmail.com SKYPE ID : sachitsir MOB. : +919868849358 SAHRAWAT FAMILY DELHI INDIA Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
Dear Kamal I am not concerned with the moral of the story, but with story itself. You say: People cannot afford technology, but they still want facilities. What do you mean? Everybody wanting a credit card should be able to afford technology? Ridiculous! You also say: People want facilities at their convenience. Yes, of course, facilities are for convenience Do you require sighted credit card holders to have all technical gadgets before giving them one? Do you take an undertaking from them that their mobile SMS would not be read by anybody in any circumstances? We take a general undertaking that the details of the card would not be shared, and it is their own responsibility if they are so shared. The same undertaking would suffice for the blind as well, without any stipulation about possession of any gadgets. You also say: BLIND is mahatma in society and now he is supposed to be above god, etc... I do not wish to reply to assertions like these. Don't be a stereotypical banker. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:47 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Dear Amiyo, People want facilities at their convinience and conditions. They cannot afford the technology, but they still need facilities. A blind is supposed to be a Mahatma in the society. But, now, a blind is greater than god. We have to fulfil their needs and conditions at any cost at their convenience only. This is the moral of this story. Regards. Kamal Verma. - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS So, what is the moral of the story? Which banks allowcredit cards and which banks ATM? I am really frustrated with banks. In fact, I am a bit nervous. They always barrage me with questions. With Best regards, Amiyo Biswas. Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS i don't understand, it is okay to give credit card but not ATM? wiche is more risky? i suppose, more misuse is possible while paying the bills, in the stors and restorences then with ATM. one has to give your credit card to the staf for othentication, no such need with ATM!!. At 02:22 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote: there are 100s of rules and laws lying in india, either unused, misused or wrongly interpreted. even indian evidence act is quite old. better option is apply credit card facility if you want with PNB. you can quote the circular if they deny such facility. no one can defame the entire organisation, if one particular case is wrongly treated. thousands of rape committed daily, should we blame the entire male population of our country? numbers of false cases registered under IPC498A, should we blame the entire female society? - Original Message - From: Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Hi Mr. Kamal Varma, Other allegations made by some of our members on PNB are all truths. Hence we can't deny all of them and say that PNB is free from any irregularity. And it's quite natural to blame the entire organization when a particular employee denies someone their entitlements. And yes, we all appreciate PNB for taking a positive attitude towards issuance of credit cards to visually challenged persons. But more often than not, it's the implementation that has bogged us down rather than the rules on paper. And coming to the eligibility criteria, A Credit Card applicant who is visually impaired person must possess a voice enabled mobile phone for the purpose of communication of transaction happening on the credit card. Please clarify whether a voice enabled phone is a prerequisite for ccommunicating the transaction details, or is it a prerequisite for applying for a credit card. I didn't get the exact meaning. Regards, Vamshi G M: +91 9949349497 R: +91 877 2243861 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:28 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
[AI] How to post an article on Blogspot.com?
Dear list members: Sorry for this simple doubt. Many of us are using our own blog on Blogspot.com for expressions felt and heard. My doubt is that earlier its was a little simpler, now Google seems to have made some changes in its layout of the blog. I don't understand where to post our article. We get a small table to put a title. Then where to put our complete article on blogspot.com? What does JAWS anounce it as? Could any one help me in this regard? I really want to improve my blog and advertise it for my future. -- LEARN TO WRITE YOUR HURTS IN THE SAND AND TO CARVE YOUR BENEFITS IN STONE!!! They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them, but then an entire life to forget them. With Warm Regards, Govind, Business development Executive and SEO writer: Mobile: 9030915271, 9959392651. Email: sgred...@gmail.com Website: www.dotweb.in | www.skillbase.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] need gps navagator software for N82
Yes, and you can download loadstone checkpoint files by keying in starting and destination points from: http://groute.loadstone-gps.pl Then save those files in checkpoints folder of loadstone and use them by loading the relevant file when navigating that route. It is helpful. I have brought several errant drivers on the right path by doing so, and even without it by simply noting coordinates from loadstone. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:55 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] need gps navagator software for N82 You can't use way finder access anyway since it's a complete trash for Indian users beginning this April. So your best bet is loadstone. http://www.loadstone-gps.com Best, Vetri. On 03/06/2010, labhendra mhatre dr.labhen...@gmail.com wrote: hi list, as subject line suggest, i need gps navagator software for my NoKIA N82. i can't use way finder because i am vodaphone custmer. please, suggest me the proper gps navagator. awaiting for your early reply. regards. -- Dr. Labhendra Mhatre. Physiotherapist Paraplegic Foundation, Mumbai +91 9819918844 Email: dr.labhen...@gmail.com Skype Id: labhendra.physio Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Bank accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Procedure for admissions in KV (Kendriya vidyalaya schools needed.
Dear list, I want to admit some cousins in KV schools. Could any one provide me with proper procedure that's being followed at these schools? At least its website link is appriciated. -- LEARN TO WRITE YOUR HURTS IN THE SAND AND TO CARVE YOUR BENEFITS IN STONE!!! They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them, but then an entire life to forget them. With Warm Regards, Govind, Business development Executive and SEO writer: Mobile: 9030915271, 9959392651. Email: sgred...@gmail.com Website: www.dotweb.in | www.skillbase.in Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS
although Punjab National Bank for ones has decided to come out of the rudd of discrimination against the disabled by formulating a policy to issue credit cards, that doesn't mean they are doing an act of charity to the visually challenged. it is a responsibility and a legal and constitutional stipulation that they are meetting. however as any such policy is open to public scrutiny, particularly on the part of the stake holders, there will be questions asked, clarifications sorted, and criticisms leveled against. that is how a democracy work, and one has to learn to be tolerant to this democratic right. although PNB's efforts at bringing a sense of clarity to the issue of credit card to the visually challenged is a welcomed step, many of us feel that some of the stipulations included in the proposed policy are unfair and even illogical. AI members working with PNB would do well to engage with these criticisms, and since they are better placed in the organization, they can take it up at the appropriate levels. that is entirely up to them, but at least crude remarks and assertions regarding the visually challenged who are struggling for their rights can be avoided. On 6/4/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Dear Kamal I am not concerned with the moral of the story, but with story itself. You say: People cannot afford technology, but they still want facilities. What do you mean? Everybody wanting a credit card should be able to afford technology? Ridiculous! You also say: People want facilities at their convenience. Yes, of course, facilities are for convenience Do you require sighted credit card holders to have all technical gadgets before giving them one? Do you take an undertaking from them that their mobile SMS would not be read by anybody in any circumstances? We take a general undertaking that the details of the card would not be shared, and it is their own responsibility if they are so shared. The same undertaking would suffice for the blind as well, without any stipulation about possession of any gadgets. You also say: BLIND is mahatma in society and now he is supposed to be above god, etc... I do not wish to reply to assertions like these. Don't be a stereotypical banker. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:47 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Dear Amiyo, People want facilities at their convinience and conditions. They cannot afford the technology, but they still need facilities. A blind is supposed to be a Mahatma in the society. But, now, a blind is greater than god. We have to fulfil their needs and conditions at any cost at their convenience only. This is the moral of this story. Regards. Kamal Verma. - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS So, what is the moral of the story? Which banks allowcredit cards and which banks ATM? I am really frustrated with banks. In fact, I am a bit nervous. They always barrage me with questions. With Best regards, Amiyo Biswas. Cell: 91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS i don't understand, it is okay to give credit card but not ATM? wiche is more risky? i suppose, more misuse is possible while paying the bills, in the stors and restorences then with ATM. one has to give your credit card to the staf for othentication, no such need with ATM!!. At 02:22 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote: there are 100s of rules and laws lying in india, either unused, misused or wrongly interpreted. even indian evidence act is quite old. better option is apply credit card facility if you want with PNB. you can quote the circular if they deny such facility. no one can defame the entire organisation, if one particular case is wrongly treated. thousands of rape committed daily, should we blame the entire male population of our country? numbers of false cases registered under IPC498A, should we blame the entire female society? - Original Message - From: Vamshi G gvamsh...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] PNB CREDIT CARD FACILITY TO BLIND CUSTOMERS Hi Mr. Kamal Varma,
